MFP not helping or showing support, just being rude!

And on the flip side , there are a load of stickied threads above for Newbies to read, so that they understand how MFP is designed to work.

And a search function.

I would recommend any new people to take the time to read those stickies, and also try searching first before asking a question, as many of the rude answers are because old timers are fed up of seeing the same questions repeated time and time again.

So if people do a bit of reasearch, they can find their answer without getting a "WTF not this question again!!", which could put them off asking next time they have a question.

To be honest with you when I was new and asked a question someone responded to me just like you did here. It made me feel bad and not very welcomed in the forum community.

Which part of my post made you feel bad ? I thought I was offerring helpful advice.

If anyone asks "where do I get started" I would always recommend they read all the stickies at the top as I think they are really helpful and informative.

I guess this is another example of tone not being transferred through text, and people taking offense where none is intended.

AM DUMBFOUNDED - BEYOND BELIEF

Ok, my turn to be dumbfounded! Which part made you feel bad and which part dumbfounded you?

There are a lot of successful people here who have done the research and achieved great results themsevles. Someone else will ask a question about cleanses, shakes, pills, etc, and a successful person will bluntly tell them why it's bad. The problem is that people don't like to hear that they are wrong. So, they get upset about it and think they are being bullied.

This is exactly the problem. It's the Internet. Stop reading "rudeness" into every post that merely expresses a differing viewpoint. If you're new and have so far not done anything to piss anyone off, then don't assume that anyone here is out to get you. No one here knows that you're super sensitive and that simply telling you you're wrong is going to send you into hysterics.

I have never forgotten where I started. I was absolutely clueless when I first joined this site. But I was patient enough to read and to learn to TRY to improve myself every day. Somehow, trying to get long-time, successful members of this site banned for not really feeling the idea of of a group therapy session never occurred to me.

I think what has got my back up more is the fact that (from my own personal point of view) all this TDEE stuff is the ONLY single way to do it.

I have nicknamed it My Fitness Preachers LOL.

Every 'body' is different therefore weightloss is going to be different. I think a more friendly approach to the eat more would be "Have you tried this, maybe give it a go and see if it works for you" instead "EAT MORE EAT MORE EAT MORE!!!!!!"

If every body was different, why bother teaching anatomy and physiology? Why do schools teach human biology? If were all so different how do Doctors figure out how to treat us when were sick? We are not all special.

We are here to embrace the newbies, help them along, provide companionship, and conversation in ways that motivate people. People need positive INTERACTION often more than correct INFORMATION. It's like a good gym vibe versus a bad gym vibe. If it's gotten old for you, move on to another "gym" or group where newbies don't bother you. Let those with grace available answer nicely. The trolls need their own groups as much or not more than newbies. They are still finding their way. If they are in your way, you are the one who needs to find a more advanced group. If you are tired of "the same old" questions, don't read that thread, and certainly, don't answer to it.

This. I really can't tell you how great it felt that one time I lost my job and went to the unemployment office to see if they could help me find work, only to hear, "We don't have any correct information to give you, but good luck and have a nice day!" Completely made me forget my worries.

I understand there are a lot of resources on this site and others, but I don't always have the time to do the research. It's often faster to pose the question and hope that someone will give me some good information. Everyone has different levels of knowledge and understanding and some need more help than others. Some may not understand how to do the research but do understand how to post a question. If someone thinks its a stupid question, they shouldn't post a response at all. Or they could have a little grace for the person who is making an effort to learn and reply with some helpful information. There is never, ever a good reason to be rude to someone.

I know you would never word it this way, but what you've said can easily be read like this: Your time is too valuable to waste looking up information for yourself, so therefore it's ok to expect that when you post a question everyone who chooses to take time out of their day to respond to it--without being paid or, in many cases, even thanked--should gracefully, cheerfully, and never rudely (which is in the eye of the beholder) give you that information.

I'm not disagreeing that people should/could be a little more nice, but again: this is a free site. Information is being shared freely. It's going to come in all kinds of packages. If you (general you, of course) need to have it all packaged politely and cheerfully and on demand, you may want to look into hiring a nutritionist or personal trainer.

Could we all stop please?
Perfection is having a mild heart attack here.
Am gonna tell my mummy on you'all!

People need positive INTERACTION often more than correct INFORMATION. I

This. I really can't tell you how great it felt that one time I lost my job and went to the unemployment office to see if they could help me find work, only to hear, "We don't have any correct information to give you, but good luck and have a nice day!" Completely made me forget my worries.

Holy crap, NO to the bolded part. No, no, no, NO.

I think the reply quoted settles it quite well.

And on the flip side , there are a load of stickied threads above for Newbies to read, so that they understand how MFP is designed to work.

And a search function.

I would recommend any new people to take the time to read those stickies, and also try searching first before asking a question, as many of the rude answers are because old timers are fed up of seeing the same questions repeated time and time again.

So if people do a bit of reasearch, they can find their answer without getting a "WTF not this question again!!", which could put them off asking next time they have a question.

the problem with using the search function is that if they respond to an old thread, people tend to lose it and ask why newbies are resurrecting old threads. Its really a lose lose for newbies in that regard.

Newbies, there are nice people out there who are more than willing to help. Hang in there.

If I'm being a complete idiot, my real friends tell me to stop being a complete idiot.
That's not rude, that's love

we may not all have time to dress it up in flowers and hugs, but "don't do this [cleanse/dr. oz supplement/detox/HGC injection/cabbage f**king soup diet], it would be a waste of your time" is supportive, informative advice.