Eating Pop Tarts and ice cream daily.

Empty calories, in casual dietary terminology, are a measure of the digestible energy present in high-energy foods with little nutritional value, typically processed carbohydrates and ethanol (alcohol), and to some extent fats. Also known as a discretionary calorie, an "empty calorie" has the same energy content as any other calorie but lacks many accompanying nutrients such as vitamins, dietary minerals, antioxidants, amino acids, or dietary fiber.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empty_calorie

Accompanying nutrients in ONE typical poptart:

Vitamin A 10% RDA
Thiamin 10% RDA
Riboflavin 10% RDA
Niacin 10% RDA
Iron 10% RDA
Vitamin B 10% RDA

Poly and monounsaturated fats 2.5g
Carbs 36g
Protein 2g

Invalid argument by your own posted definition.

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nah, if the ingredients in pop tarts hadn't been refined and then later enriched with harder-to-assimilate-nutrients, they would actually have MORE vitamins/minerals. part of the description was calories with "little" nutritional value. my argument is valid.

Has more than an iceberg lettuce - so it's better for you than a serving of iceberg lettuce!

Empty calories, in casual dietary terminology, are a measure of the digestible energy present in high-energy foods with little nutritional value, typically processed carbohydrates and ethanol (alcohol), and to some extent fats. Also known as a discretionary calorie, an "empty calorie" has the same energy content as any other calorie but lacks many accompanying nutrients such as vitamins, dietary minerals, antioxidants, amino acids, or dietary fiber.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empty_calorie

Accompanying nutrients in ONE typical poptart:

Vitamin A 10% RDA
Thiamin 10% RDA
Riboflavin 10% RDA
Niacin 10% RDA
Iron 10% RDA
Vitamin B 10% RDA

Poly and monounsaturated fats 2.5g
Carbs 36g
Protein 2g

Invalid argument by your own posted definition.

Edit to fix quotes

nah, if the ingredients in pop tarts hadn't been refined and then later enriched with harder-to-assimilate-nutrients, they would actually have MORE vitamins/minerals. part of the description was calories with "little" nutritional value. my argument is valid.

10% is considered a "good source" by the same reference you used.

if it were actually able to be absorbed as easily by your body, maybe... notice something here?:

Enriched flour is flour with specific nutrients returned to it that have been lost while being prepared. These restored nutrients include iron and B vitamins (folic acid, riboflavin, niacin, and thiamine).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enriched_flour

and

One factor that limits the benefits of food fortification is that isolated nutrients added back in to a processed food that has had many of its nutrients removed, does not always result in the added nutrients being as bioavailable as they would be in the original, whole food. An example is skim milk that has had the fat removed, and then had vitamin A and vitamin D added back. Vitamins A and D are both fat soluble and not water soluble, so a person consuming skim milk in the absence of fats may not be able to absorb enough of these vitamins as one would be able to absorb from drinking whole milk.

Phytochemicals such as polyphenols can also impact nutrient absorption.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_fortification

Empty calories, in casual dietary terminology, are a measure of the digestible energy present in high-energy foods with little nutritional value, typically processed carbohydrates and ethanol (alcohol), and to some extent fats. Also known as a discretionary calorie, an "empty calorie" has the same energy content as any other calorie but lacks many accompanying nutrients such as vitamins, dietary minerals, antioxidants, amino acids, or dietary fiber.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empty_calorie

Accompanying nutrients in ONE typical poptart:

Vitamin A 10% RDA
Thiamin 10% RDA
Riboflavin 10% RDA
Niacin 10% RDA
Iron 10% RDA
Vitamin B 10% RDA

Poly and monounsaturated fats 2.5g
Carbs 36g
Protein 2g

Invalid argument by your own posted definition.

Edit to fix quotes

nah, if the ingredients in pop tarts hadn't been refined and then later enriched with harder-to-assimilate-nutrients, they would actually have MORE vitamins/minerals. part of the description was calories with "little" nutritional value. my argument is valid.

Has more than an iceberg lettuce - so it's better for you than a serving of iceberg lettuce!

iceberg lettuce is also nutritionally deficient.

Much more so than a pop tart.

I think I will start a thread saying I eat iceberg lettuce everyday and see who jumps in and spouts off about it being bad for me.

I just had an iced cherry pop tart with nutella on top. MMMMmmmm!:glasses:

it is soo funny! i wanted poptarts so bad after i read part one! i keep forgetting to buy them:(

Empty calories, in casual dietary terminology, are a measure of the digestible energy present in high-energy foods with little nutritional value, typically processed carbohydrates and ethanol (alcohol), and to some extent fats. Also known as a discretionary calorie, an "empty calorie" has the same energy content as any other calorie but lacks many accompanying nutrients such as vitamins, dietary minerals, antioxidants, amino acids, or dietary fiber.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empty_calorie

Accompanying nutrients in ONE typical poptart:

Vitamin A 10% RDA
Thiamin 10% RDA
Riboflavin 10% RDA
Niacin 10% RDA
Iron 10% RDA
Vitamin B 10% RDA

Poly and monounsaturated fats 2.5g
Carbs 36g
Protein 2g

Invalid argument by your own posted definition.

Edit to fix quotes

nah, if the ingredients in pop tarts hadn't been refined and then later enriched with harder-to-assimilate-nutrients, they would actually have MORE vitamins/minerals. part of the description was calories with "little" nutritional value. my argument is valid.

10% is considered a "good source" by the same reference you used.

if it were actually able to be absorbed as easily by your body, maybe... notice something here?:

Enriched flour is flour with specific nutrients returned to it that have been lost while being prepared. These restored nutrients include iron and B vitamins (folic acid, riboflavin, niacin, and thiamine).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enriched_flour

and

One factor that limits the benefits of food fortification is that isolated nutrients added back in to a processed food that has had many of its nutrients removed, does not always result in the added nutrients being as bioavailable as they would be in the original, whole food. An example is skim milk that has had the fat removed, and then had vitamin A and vitamin D added back. Vitamins A and D are both fat soluble and not water soluble, so a person consuming skim milk in the absence of fats may not be able to absorb enough of these vitamins as one would be able to absorb from drinking whole milk.

Phytochemicals such as polyphenols can also impact nutrient absorption.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_fortification

"Does not always" , "as" & "may". Not exactly concrete.

up to you

The people who post they eat ice cream daily on the MFP forum do it because they are jerks. They know EXACTLY what they are doing when they brag about that. They are rubbing it in the faces of those who struggle to lose. They know that the majority of people here are hurt, are suffering, are overweight, or are obese, uneducated on health and nutrition, are sick, are depressed about their current condition and are wanting to change. Wanting to learn. Some are diabetic. This is a HELP forum. They make sure YOU KNOW, THEY CAN and YOU CAN'T so what is wrong with YOU and how cool are they? It is very immature.

Like I said, they know what they are doing. Why do they think we care? What is the purpose of getting on MFP and saying, "look at my six pack and I eat ice cream every day." It's like me sitting outside of an AA meeting with a beer on a hot day and making slurping noises as I drink it, holding it up to the member saying, "I do this every day, but in moderation and I'm not an alcoholic". I CAN, you can't just making sure you all know. But hey, I do it in moderation and I STILL am not an alcoholic. " Or more in comparison would be to go to an AA forum online and post I drink wine every night with dinner and am not an alcoholic. Just childish! Just cruel!

The people who post they eat ice cream daily on the MFP forum do it because they are jerks. They know EXACTLY what they are doing when they brag about that. They are rubbing it in the faces of those who struggle to lose. They know that the majority of people here are hurt, are suffering, are overweight, or are obese, uneducated on health and nutrition, are sick, are depressed about their current condition and are wanting to change. Wanting to learn. They make sure YOU KNOW, THEY CAN and YOU CAN'T so what is wrong with YOU and how cool are they? It is very immature and very rude. It's as if they are in junior high. Like I said, they know what they are doing. Why do they think we care? What is the purpose of getting on MFP and saying, "look at my six pack and I eat ice cream every day." It's like me sitting outside of an AA meeting with a beer on a hot day and making slurping noises as I drink it, holding it up to the member saying, "I do this every day, but in moderation and I'm not an alcoholic". I CAN, you can't just making sure you all know. But hey, I do it in moderation and I STILL am not an alcoholic. " Or more in comparison would be to go to an AA forum online and post I drink wine every night with dinner and am not an alcoholic. Just childish! Just cruel and completely stupid.

:noway:

Nice to see you follow your own advice.

"It's okay to disagree, but there should be a respect for the other person's opinion. "

ROLLING :drinker:

THIS!!! Every damn day! Micro’s & Macro’s FTW

I can tell you, my ice cream is not junk.

Have you met the cow that made it or did you get it in a store?
Price?
How was the milk used to make the ice cream produced? Were the cows stressed?
What type of injections were the cow given?
Is the belief that your ice cream isn't junk based on personal taste buds?
:ohwell:



I'll accept a nutritional content label if that's all ya got but I'd rather know about the cow's stress levels and vaccination history.

Seriously? :laugh: THAT is derailing a topic.

I'm only participating in this thread if there is Pop Tart and Ice Cream flavored Vodka...

I would so be here for this topic if there were pictures of people's junk covered in Pop Tarts and ice cream.


Wait, what?

Ooops, wrong board....