Milk

1% or 2%...What's your opinion and why? Growing up we always drank Fat Free, now I drink 1% most of the time and sometimes 2%.

I remember hearing on Oprah that cow's milk is designed for calves to go from 60 to 600 or more lbs in 6 months. Then it struck me that why on earth are humans drinking it when calves don't their entire lives? Makes no sense but economically, sure.

Ugh. The one time people ignore my dumb *kitten*. I'll rehash.



Anti Milk Side: We weren't "designed" to drink milk! (Correct, since human beings back 10s of thousands of years ago lost the enzyme required to digest milk as they aged, and 70% of people worldwide still lose that enzyme as they age)

Pro Milk Side: Who cares? We've been doing it for thousands of years. (True. American and European people have EVOLVED to be able to process milk properly. Lactase-persistence is found in 90% of European descended peoples)



If you're white, you can probably drink milk with zero problems, so go for it.

If you're not, you have a higher likelihood of lactose intolerance, so it's more likely to cause you problems.



The. End.

WTF lol I am probably one of the darkest in here ATM and I drink milk easily. No issues, Never had any. Noone in my family or extended family have issues either. We are all dark.

He said non-whites are less likely to be able to drink milk without issues. That's true. That doesn't mean all non-whites have issues with milk.

If you're white, you can probably drink milk with zero problems, so go for it.
*White ppl can drink milk no problems...........

If you're not, you have a higher likelihood of lactose intolerance, so it's more likely to cause you problems.
*Non white ppl are probably LI so milk will cause problems

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100% Almond.
Humans were not designed to drink cows milk, baby cows were.

almonds weren't designed to be turned into milk.

i dont get your point.

2%. I've heard skim milk is more fattening than other milks. Even though, the fat is removed from skim, it leaves mostly sugars so it's more fattening.

No it is not. Total calories are less.

2%. I've heard skim milk is more fattening than other milks. Even though, the fat is removed from skim, it leaves mostly sugars so it's more fattening.

No it is not. Total calories are less.

Not talking about total calories. Talking about sugar. Once you remove the fat from the milk, yes the calories are less, but what is left?

This is a very thought provoking thread. This thought just came to mind.
Milk is a complete meal...for a baby. Why as humans are we drinking it in addition to eating full solid meals too?
It seems like doubling up for no reason. Like drinking Ensure or other common tube feedings.
A contributor to obesity? Likely.

Babies need lots of nutrition to grow and develop, and milk covers those bases.
So for an athlete who wants to grow, and needs ample nutrition, why wouldn't milk be a good addition to their diet.



Everytime I've seen someone arguing against people drinking milk, while saying it isn't natural, no other animals do it, etc they are:
A. A vegan who has been loaded with a bunch of propaganda
B. A crosffitter who buys into some paleo nonsense

Very true about athletes but most of us are not athletes. As we get up a little in age, many people have families and have different goals. I'm in this group. Now I just want to be presentable.

2%. I've heard skim milk is more fattening than other milks. Even though, the fat is removed from skim, it leaves mostly sugars so it's more fattening.

No it is not. Total calories are less.

Not talking about total calories. Talking about sugar. Once you remove the fat from the milk, yes the calories are less, but what is left?

Calories determine weight loss or gain. Not sugar.

I stopped drinking cow's milk when I realized I was drinking the secretions of an animal outside of my own species. It got a little weird then.

I drink almond milk and coconut milk. Dark almond milk mixed with coconut milk is incredibly good.

Are you a vegetarian? If not, is it weirder drinking their nutritive secretions, or cutting them up into little pieces and eating their insides?

Nope, not a vegetarian. I prefer them for their higher nutritive values, and the fact that I'm not drinking something that was designed for calves to drink. No animal but human drinks milk from another species. It just seems weird to me.

That's just plan nonsense and not true. Dogs, cats and most other mammals will drink the milk of another species if it is made available. Drink what you want but don't insult people's intelligence with pretzel logic.

but those species don't go seeking it out voluntarily in the wild. we're talking about very extreme circumstances OR circumstances propagated by us.

i'm not sure it's a great reason to not drink milk... since your body has evolved through nature to be able to properly digest another species' milk... but it's fallaceous to say that animals willingly and purposefully seek out nourishment in the form of milk from other species unless they've been conditioned in some way or another to do so

The last example of this is a wild lion adopting an antelope and nursing it. Voluntarily sought out in the wild.....
http://www.environmentalgraffiti.com/animals/news-10-incredible-stories-interspecies-nursing

in an extreme circumstance. like i said.

Whatever the circumstances, the person who's quote I bolded presented a false argument that is often presented in these milk threads. To quote "No animal but human drinks milk from another species.. They didn't say except under some rare condition or unless humans provide. They didn't qualify their false statement in any way.

I believe he went from "no animal" to "only in extreme circumstances/when conditioned" to "when made available through human action."

Full fat, raw, and grass fed -- I'm fortunate to know someone who raises dairy cows.

"no animal drinks milk from another species beyond infancy"

My MIL says this all the time!!! Umm... they dont' cook their meat either so start eating your steaks raw. It's not my fault we were blessed with opposable thumbs and abstract thought LOL

If you serve milk to an animal, they WILL drink it and probably like it too! So the only reason they don't is because they can't milk one LOL

"no animal drinks milk from another species beyond infancy"

My MIL says this all the time!!! Umm... they dont' cook their meat either so start eating your steaks raw. It's not my fault we were blessed with opposable thumbs and abstract thought LOL

If you serve milk to an animal, they WILL drink it and probably like it too! So the only reason they don't is because they can't milk one LOL

:laugh: Love when ppl counter a stupid remark with something that totally debunks it :drinker:
I practically do eat my steaks raw but I sure as hell drink milk. I would drink milk even if it came from chicken. Leave cows alone they makes us full and keep us less thirsty

Yeah, my reply to that is that animals are not as smart as they are. If my dog had the brains to figure out a way to milk a cow, she totally would.