A fat girl who likes being fat?1?!?
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If someone thin made a post saying that they wanted to lose weight and did not care at all about how it affected their health, they'd be getting replies saying how wrong they are, that weight isn't important, it's nutrition and fitness that matter. And when a fat person makes a post saying that they don't care about their weight, they are looking to improve their nutrition and fitness, they get the opposite! It's all hypocritical!
This.
Hi Obese+Sassy. I applaud your solid sense of self-esteem.
I started this journey into fitness and health mostly to prove a point to my doctor, who diagnosed me as "fat and lazy" when every health indicator I had was perfectly fine (I had better cholesterol markers than my doctor, even at 240 lbs), to prove that I was in fact eating less than eighteen hundred calories a day, walking anywhere from two to three miles a day and, oddly, still FAT. So no, for some of us, eat less and move more is not the be all and end all of health advice. It can prove to be more complicated.
You can be terribly unhealthy and still be thin. There are thin diabetics, thin people who have heart attacks, thin people who have arthritis, and thin people who have breathing problems. Until someone can prove to me that thin people never get those diseases, I am not going to kill myself to be thin. Oh, it doesn't make you immortal either. (Thank you, Ragen Chastain,)
Personally, I second the recommendation of Stumptuous for beginner's weight routines. If you have a pretty healthy sense of humor, she's got a great starting workout called "No Fat Chicks" (just ignore the obesity discussions). NerdFitness also has some great body weight routines you can do at home to increase strength, stamina, and flexibility. And Steve is a total nerd, which is awesome. Someday I hope to be fit enough to try the "Konami Code" workout. *lol*
I've been put on Metformin to manage my insulin resistance and I've managed to lose 50+ lbs, mostly because my body finally reacts to food the way it was designed to do. But, I am still considered obese, and people who look at me, do not think: "Wow, she's lost a lot of weight, she looks fantastic", they still think "wow, look at the fat chick buying Greek yogurt, no wonder she's a tub".
That's not about me, that's about them. That's about a culture that has declared a war on me as the last acceptable bastion of bigotry, since the law now says that it is not acceptable to be racist, misogynist, or homophobic.
Weight is a number on a scale. Health is a series of markers that measure a great many other things; strength, stamina, flexibility, oxygen carrying capacity, mental acuity, stress response, and so on.
Your decision to make healthy lifestyle changes may lead to weight loss. It may not; there is no guarantee there either - if there was, the diet industry wouldn't be making sixty billion dollars a year by blaming us for the fact that their "product" doesn't work. But I personally applaud you for making the effort to be more mindful and present in your body, and make better choices about food and movement.
Feel free to add me. I also happen to be something of a nerd (video games, science fiction and fantasy, costuming etc.). I do talk on my wall about my weight and my workout activities, however, so if that might be a trigger issue for you, I understand.
Gods bless and be well - whatever that looks like for you.
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I believe it is possible to be fit at different weights; we don't all have to be thin, and I don't believe that it's possible for every person to be thin.
But if you're not feeling well, then looking at what you eat seems a good place to start. I expect you've been eating intuitively up until now; it may be worthwhile to talk to a nutritionist or a naturopath to get a little direction. Hopefully you can find one who won't focus on your weight and will follow your direction that you want to feel better.
I had been feeling lousy for a few months, and a naturopath suggested I eat clean for two weeks to see what happened - no wheat, dairy, soy, peanuts, alcohol, sugar, caffeine, aspartame. I thought I would die from cravings for the first five days, but I've seen a remarkable difference in my energy levels and the cravings have eased dramatically. Add a half hour daily walk to new eating habits, and you'll be feeling better.
I wish you all the best, add me if you like.0 -
I follow the girl whose picture that is on Tumblr religiously and this REALLY doesn't sound like something she'd post.
I sense shenanigans.
Which part doesn't sound like something I'd post? if you followed my tumblr you'd know i quit tumblr two months ago. Just because I used a different username on this site doesn't make it any less me! Although you're more than welcome to message me privately if you need more proof!
Oh god I was just in the middle of editing my comment to say I'd read more posts and kind-of retracted.
Hi. ;u;
haha don't worry about it doll, you can never be too careful on the big wide internet!
i figured it was only a matter of time before tumblr people found me on here! 0 -
Its not about being comfortable being fat...Its more about trying to stay alive and not die from diabetes or heart disease. You can feel good about yourself but saying your comfortable being obese and fine with it is frankly a fall back on being lazy.
Trolling or not this site is about motivation and losing or maintaining your fitness goals. Dropping by with "I'm fat and proud" is not something any of us care about. Find a site about being fat, exchange some recipes and sit back and wait to die prematurely. That is the site you're looking for.
I feel like you didn't actually even read my post. Weight loss and better fitness are actually not interchangeable terms, but that's not a can of worms I intend to open in this thread. But more importantly, frankly I'm offended that you think I'm trolling just because I'm happy being fat. As you said, this site is about motivation. And that's what I'm looking for. Motivation to help me feel better physically. If you don't intend to help with that, there probably wasn't a point in replying.
If you want to feel better physically you need to lose some weight. You don't have to aim to be skinny but at least aim for the Overweight category rather than the obise. I have a friend who always were a size 24 and she lost weight and now she is a size 18. She is happy and don't want to lose any more.0 -
This whole thread is stupid. Utterly ridiculous.0
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If your comfortable in your own skin, then why change???
Because in this case it could and probably will lead to arthritis, diabetes, joint damage, heart disease, renal and liver failure vascular failure, hypertension, and chronic fatigue.
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I can understand where you are coming from. One of the biggest reasons that I have been able to stick it out and make moderate life-style changes is because I have been happy and accepting of my body during this entire process and even before. I don't usually post on these boards because... well, clearly but I wanted to say I understand what you're saying. Keep being proud of your body and adopting healthier choices - reasonable changes will be a great way to honor your body! Hanne Blank has a new book that sounds like it could be great called, "Unapologetic Fat Girl's Guide to Exercise: An incendiary Act" your attitude suggests that you may have already read her though.
I've found that since I've done this, my feet and back don't hurt anymore; I'm not uncomfortable on planes; I have much more energy; I sleep better! I was happy and accepting before, but now I feel like everything has come together.
For everyone else... shame doesn't work.0 -
If your comfortable in your own skin, then why change???
Um, she clearly said she was physically uncomfortable?0 -
On a side not.
I also am very close to a person who weighs over 300 pounds. His cholesterol is at a ideal level, almost too low, lipds low, no signs of diabetes and a blood pressure at 70/110. He has back problems though so he is trying to loose about a 100 pounds. Also because of potential future health problems. But my point is, not all obese people have health issues.0 -
If YOU are happy with your weight, then that is fine. However, just know that if you make certain changes in diet or activity you may lose the body shape you prefer. I think that when you make good changes to your lifestyle and you do feel a good difference in your health, that is truly the greatest reward. It is possible to be Fit and fat. I don't know if you have regular physicals or not, but I am sure your doctor will let you know if your blood sugar looks like it's going into a bad area, or your blood pressure, or cholesterol. I hope you acheieve what ever it is you set out to do here. May the force be with you.
Thanks doll! The great thing about being so heavily into body acceptance is that no matter what my body looks like, I will ALWAYS adore it, because my body is a part of me and it deserves my love no matter what. I work in health, so I already know I have excellent blood sugar and blood pressure (which surprises many people, but what can you do?) I just want to work on my strength and my stamina and improve my energy level. Especially now that summer's coming!
Thanks for the support, and for the Star Wars nod
I am glad for you that you have excellent blood sugar and perfect BP. From your picture I assume that you are still young(er).
How long do you think your blood sugar and BP will stay excellent ? Five more years, ten, twenty ? Looking at statistics that is probably not going to be the case.
How long do you think it will take for you to possibly need knee replacement , from all the weight you carry around ? Or maybe it's even a wheel chair.....who knows. Just because you are healthy now, does not mean that you are going to stay healthy for the rest of your life.
If you really don't want to get healthier and lose some weight ( because there are sooner or later consequences to being morbidly obese) and just stay fat by overeating on healthier food ( and yes that is possible ) maybe MFP is not the place for you, because I can't see anyone really giving you positive support, because we don't share your view.
I congratulate on your positive body image, but that is not enough imo to get healthy and not lose weight at this stage of the game. I believe that when someone is as morbidly obese as you are ( and believe me I know what I am talking about, because I have to lose almost 100 pounds ) there is no improved health without losing weight. There is no way to consistently over-over eat and be healthy, no matter how you feel now.
Good Luck to you !0 -
This whole thread is stupid. Utterly ridiculous.
I know. I've gotta get out of here ... sanity is calling :indifferent:0 -
yeah silly stuff!!:) people have wayyyyyy too much free time0
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yeah silly stuff!!:) people have wayyyyyy too much free time
It is Saturday.0 -
I think you all were just a part of an experiment, of social response and acceptance of obese people you don't want to lose weight....I'm just saying!!!!! Set up!!!
Maybe. It doesn't bother me, though.
Me neither, helpful in keeping my friend's list neat and tidy.
Ahhhh! Isn't it nice to be able to spot the true colors of other members? Why just yesterday one in particular on this thread was going in and on annnnnd onnnn annnnnnd onnnnnnn about not judging, or attacking others etc.... and who would be one of the first to come in mud slinging! It is always interesting to watch.0 -
I'm still really confused about what people are so upset about? This is a website about changing your lifestyle and getting healthy. OP came on here, said she wanted to change her lifestyle and get healthy. She also said she loves herself the way she is now, even though she's overweight.
So what's the f***ing problem? Here is a girl who is obviously very mentally secure with herself, something very few of us can truly say. Now, she wants to treat her body right by eating better and moving more (like pretty much all of us on this site). That's literally all her post was about. That's it. Nothing else. Nada.
Still so confused over here.0 -
Scanning through a few of the comments here, it's obvious that this site has a large number of people that think numbers are more important than a healthy lifestyle. I would love to have someone as positive as you as a mfp friend.0
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Op - you never actually had to 'stick out like a sore thumb' you put yourself out there and did that.
You could have just posted about wanting support for a more healthy lifestyle, after all that is the crux of your joining here right?
In fact your whole body love thing is irrelevant, you are here for the same reason as each and every one of us - to feel better.
You made yourself a target, why do that? When it was entirely unnecessary?
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The title is definitely provocative. I think a more appropriate title would be "A fat girl who likes being herself". I think it is fantastic to be happy in your skin. There are many people who aren't blessed with being happy with themselves. However, being happy should not be related to your weight/size...regardless of whether if it is a positive relationship or a negative relationship.
Fueling your body with healthier food is a great thing and will only make you feel better both on the inside and the outside. I think it is awesome that you have decided to fuel your body in a healthier way and you will likely lose weight. I think you'll be just as happy with yourself if you do end up losing weight and shrink down a bit. Your ebullient personality and positive view on life will be there and that is what makes you beautiful!
Congrats with this decision and welcome to MFP.0 -
I'll just say that some of my best friends in the world are Samoans. Very happy, and very big people. Nice as hell and will help you with just about anything. They don't judge each others weights nor others. BUT, because of weight they do have issues with diabetes and health.
So if it's health you're concerned with, then the NUMBER ONE risk predictor is weight. The more you weigh (for your frame), the higher the risk.
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being comfortable in your skin doesn't change the fact that you're fat. period.
I'm sure the OP had no idea she was fat. What a service you just provided her by letting her know. Oh wait, it's right there in her username. I guess you weren't so helpful after all.0 -
Dear OP: Sending a friend request your way (which I very rarely do to people I don't know personally - all but two of my MFP friends are people In know IRL).
I'm a big girl and have been for most of my life. It's true that I'm looking to lose weight - to get down to 200 lbs because that's when I physically and mentally felt most comfortable in my own skin. I love my curves and and love my (mostly) hourglass figure.
BTW, I'm 47 and have excellent blood sugar, cholesterol, blood pressure, etc. Most of the physical issues that I do have are joint and tendon related, but are the result of injuries brought about by a car accident, marathon training in crappy athletic shoes and stepping just the wrong way when dancing, bowling and carrying heavy boxes down stairs. My asthma is heredity - weak lungs run in my family, but unlike the other (more svelte) members of my family who have it, I didn't have problems until I hit 40. And yes, I do have arthritis - in my neck, where it's been bugging the crap out of me since I was in my early 30s and still under 200 lbs (though barely).
I'm sure you've seen this link:
http://www.themilitantbaker.com/2013/03/things-no-one-will-tell-fat-girls-so-i.html
Here is what I wrote when I shared in on Facebook:
"I'm currently on a journey to lose some weight. Not because I want to conform to some societal ideal of beauty, but because I felt more comfortable in my skin at 200 lbs. than I currently do at 252 (I've lost about 9 lbs.).
"You may notice that I said 200 lbs. That's my goal. Because I love my curves and I loved having an hourglass figure. I really don't want to get any smaller than that. But I do want to be strong and supple whatever size body I end up with. THAT is my primary goal.
"There's no shame in being a fat girl. Don't let anyone ever tell you otherwise. Exercise and eat well, because that's good for your physical and mental health, not because someone else thinks you should look a certain way. Take care of your gorgeous fat body and it will take care of you.
"And if you're naturally skinny? That's okay, too. You are gorgeous and should never let anyone else tell you otherwise. No one should be ashamed of their body. NO ONE.
"For me, it comes down to the same for everyone. Female and male (who you feel you are, even if that wasn't the genitalia you were born with). Fat and skinny and everyone in between. Exercise and eat well. Be strong. Love yourself. Be the best you that you can possibly be."
Dear OP: keep on rocking your bad-*kitten* self. Exercise your heart out, eat good healthy food (and good decadent food in moderation) and keep loving the body that you have as it gets stronger (which may or may not result in weight-loss). I'll be there to support you.0 -
I'm still really confused about what people are so upset about? This is a website about changing your lifestyle and getting healthy. OP came on here, said she wanted to change her lifestyle and get healthy. She also said she loves herself the way she is now, even though she's overweight.
So what's the f***ing problem? Here is a girl who is obviously very mentally secure with herself, something very few of us can truly say. Now, she wants to treat her body right by eating better and moving more (like pretty much all of us on this site). That's literally all her post was about. That's it. Nothing else. Nada.
Still so confused over here.
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being comfortable in your skin doesn't change the fact that you're fat. period.
I think being comfortable in ones own skin makes it easier to to improve the physical body. It is amazing what results can be born when self loathing has been removed.0 -
It should be about health - not appearance.
My 2 cents.0 -
I'm a bit of a misnomer on this site. I'm a fat girl, heavy into body positivity, who has no intentions of not being fat. What?! Crazy, I know!
Lately I've realized just how physically not-so-great I feel, so I'm trying to honor my body by using intuitive eating and moving more. My goal isn't weight loss or changing the way my body looks. My goal is simply feeling better. If the habits I form cause me to lose weight, so be it, but it's not my intention or my goal.
So just from those two paragraphs alone, you can see why I stick out like a sore thumb on a site like this, something that I'm totally aware of! But I still firmly believe that you do better at reaching your goals when you have support, so I figured I'd say hello and try to make some new friends! Nerds are a plus, but certainly not necessary!
Fat-pride is ruining this world. Being obese is not only unhealthy, but disgusting. Why sign up on a FITNESS site if you're just going to go around making excuses for being a hambeast? Cut calories, start being active and stop making up excuses and justifications for being a fatass. Change or gtfo hambeast.
Right... people who love themselves are TOTALLY the problem.0 -
Wow. Just wow.I'm a bit of a misnomer on this site. I'm a fat girl, heavy into body positivity, who has no intentions of not being fat. What?! Crazy, I know!
Lately I've realized just how physically not-so-great I feel, so I'm trying to honor my body by using intuitive eating and moving more. My goal isn't weight loss or changing the way my body looks. My goal is simply feeling better. If the habits I form cause me to lose weight, so be it, but it's not my intention or my goal.
So just from those two paragraphs alone, you can see why I stick out like a sore thumb on a site like this, something that I'm totally aware of! But I still firmly believe that you do better at reaching your goals when you have support, so I figured I'd say hello and try to make some new friends! Nerds are a plus, but certainly not necessary!
Fat-pride is ruining this world. Being obese is not only unhealthy, but disgusting. Why sign up on a FITNESS site if you're just going to go around making excuses for being a hambeast? Cut calories, start being active and stop making up excuses and justifications for being a fatass. Change or gtfo hambeast.0 -
You remind me of this..
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2321812/Tammy-Jung-23-feeds-5000-calories-day-funnel-hope-obese-internet-star.html
Not for nothing, but.. Accepting an unhealthy lifestyle as "normal" or "okay" is not acceptable. Normally I woucln't care what you did with your body, but when the masses of people get to be double what they should weigh for a healthy body weight, and subsequently get diabetes, pre-diabetes, heart disease, and the many many other risk factors that being overweight brings with it...
They expect us to come rescue them when their heart gives out/needs an ambulance? seriously? You want health insurance to help pay for the cost of your medication, but you scream when the rates are higher because of your body composition. I'm sorry, I'm not going to shame anyone who is fat, or tell them what I think unless they ask.
But I'm also not going to be your cheerleader. Some of you might take my lack of enthusiasm for your self love as shaming you because of your weight anyway.. and I don't care. It's not okay.
Would you tell a drug addict that it was okay to keep doing drugs? Because they are, essentially the same. (A few pounds overweight is one thing, 20+ and higher.. no.)
There's a lot to be said for loving yourself, but being overweight cannot "be ok".
50 years ago 10% of the population was obese... Now it's 30% and growing, with over 60% obese/overweight.0 -
I'm a bit of a misnomer on this site. I'm a fat girl, heavy into body positivity, who has no intentions of not being fat. What?! Crazy, I know!
Lately I've realized just how physically not-so-great I feel, so I'm trying to honor my body by using intuitive eating and moving more. My goal isn't weight loss or changing the way my body looks. My goal is simply feeling better. If the habits I form cause me to lose weight, so be it, but it's not my intention or my goal.
So just from those two paragraphs alone, you can see why I stick out like a sore thumb on a site like this, something that I'm totally aware of! But I still firmly believe that you do better at reaching your goals when you have support, so I figured I'd say hello and try to make some new friends! Nerds are a plus, but certainly not necessary!
Fat-pride is ruining this world. Being obese is not only unhealthy, but disgusting. Why sign up on a FITNESS site if you're just going to go around making excuses for being a hambeast? Cut calories, start being active and stop making up excuses and justifications for being a fatass. Change or gtfo hambeast.
You sir, are the definition of *kitten*.
Do you even lift?0 -
I'm a bit of a misnomer on this site. I'm a fat girl, heavy into body positivity, who has no intentions of not being fat. What?! Crazy, I know!
Lately I've realized just how physically not-so-great I feel, so I'm trying to honor my body by using intuitive eating and moving more. My goal isn't weight loss or changing the way my body looks. My goal is simply feeling better. If the habits I form cause me to lose weight, so be it, but it's not my intention or my goal.
So just from those two paragraphs alone, you can see why I stick out like a sore thumb on a site like this, something that I'm totally aware of! But I still firmly believe that you do better at reaching your goals when you have support, so I figured I'd say hello and try to make some new friends! Nerds are a plus, but certainly not necessary!
Fat-pride is ruining this world. Being obese is not only unhealthy, but disgusting. Why sign up on a FITNESS site if you're just going to go around making excuses for being a hambeast? Cut calories, start being active and stop making up excuses and justifications for being a fatass. Change or gtfo hambeast.
Right... people who love themselves are TOTALLY the problem.
It's not a matter of loving yourself when projecting a completely unhealthy and disgusting lifestyle in a place where others are attempting to better themselves.0 -
I've found that women who hate other women tend to have pretty unlikeable personalities, anyway. Let them be hateful. I'll be over here having a great time with my wonderful, supportive, beautiful, drama-free girlfriends. :-)
I hate reading things like that, it's sad really.(I get reminded on a daily basis on this forum how much I hate people in general, especially other women).0
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