A fat girl who likes being fat?1?!?
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Scanning through a few of the comments here, it's obvious that this site has a large number of people that think numbers are more important than a healthy lifestyle. I would love to have someone as positive as you as a mfp friend.
how could someone who is over 200 pounds overweight have a healthy lifestyle????
So, are you sitting there with a list of "typical things people say when discriminating against obese people?" when you respond? It's sad and hilarious.
what? I don't discrminate against obese people. It's sad and hilarious that I'm pointing out the obvoious that being over 200 pounds overweight is not healthy? not following why that's sad and hilarious.
You don't discriminate against obese people yet you assume they all have an unhealthy lifestyle. Glad we cleared that right up!
The o.p. did not claim to have a healthy lifestyle, did she? On average, a person who is 200 pounds overweight is less likely to have a healthy lifestyle than a thin person. You disagree with this? If what I'm saying is false, then there wouldn't be so many diseases linked to obesity.
I don't make assumptions about other people's lifestyles based in their weight. I know plenty of unhealthy people who are thin.
sure there are unhealthy people who are thin, but if someone is overweight it is more likely for them to be unhealthy than the thin person. This is just a fact.
I would like to see some peer reviewed studies that show overweight people are more unhealthy.
Ok now, you're just being delusional!0 -
Scanning through a few of the comments here, it's obvious that this site has a large number of people that think numbers are more important than a healthy lifestyle. I would love to have someone as positive as you as a mfp friend.
how could someone who is over 200 pounds overweight have a healthy lifestyle????
So, are you sitting there with a list of "typical things people say when discriminating against obese people?" when you respond? It's sad and hilarious.
what? I don't discrminate against obese people. It's sad and hilarious that I'm pointing out the obvoious that being over 200 pounds overweight is not healthy? not following why that's sad and hilarious.
You don't discriminate against obese people yet you assume they all have an unhealthy lifestyle. Glad we cleared that right up!
The o.p. did not claim to have a healthy lifestyle, did she? On average, a person who is 200 pounds overweight is less likely to have a healthy lifestyle than a thin person. You disagree with this? If what I'm saying is false, then there wouldn't be so many diseases linked to obesity.
I don't make assumptions about other people's lifestyles based in their weight. I know plenty of unhealthy people who are thin.
sure there are unhealthy people who are thin, but if someone is overweight it is more likely for them to be unhealthy than the thin person. This is just a fact.
I would like to see some peer reviewed studies that show overweight people are more unhealthy.
Ok now, you're just being delusional!
Stop, she is just trolling.0 -
I am not here to tell you what to do with your body, but I will speak to my own experience.
Is dieting a feminist action? Not always. The diet/fashion/etc ethos can be degrading and damaging to women. Bodily pressures are profound, and I think you're right to work against that.
Is working for a healthy body a feminist action? YES. 'Our Bodies, Ourselves' is a foundational feminist text for a reason. You say your body is a political statement (whose isn't?), I say my body is a political tool, a vehicle for my political self. If I'm going to tear down the patriarchy, I'll need strength, stamina, and an unshakeable confidence in my own abilities.
The fact is, that for me a 300 pound body could not affect change. I was too tired, my head hurt, I had a stomach ache. I needed a nap. I'm only 35 pounds down, but it's only taken 35 pounds to feel amazing, and be amazed by what my body is capable of doing, that it can walk run lift play.
Fat or not, **** the patriarchy, be strong and healthy.
I have read enough to decide to walk away, but I love your response. For those who are interested, there is a "Healthy Feminists" group on here. I don't want to say much more here as I am as imperfect as we all are, and struggle with the same shame that our society seems so thrilled to throw at us about weight and size. However, to hang out in a group of like-minded folks makes it easier for me to struggle without shame. Good luck all!0 -
Hmmm....
So you say your goal isn't weight loss "or" changing the way you look...yet you want to feel better? There is a reason you don't "feel" well right now....and I'm sorry but there isn't much you can do that will "make you feel better" while not incurring "weight loss" or "changing the way you look".
If you start eating healthy, odds are you won't consume as much as you'll be full more, thus you will lose weight....
If you start exercising, it will most likely have some effect on how you look.....
My suggestion to you is simple....quit lying to yourself. You know where your individual train is headed, regardless if it makes you feel better to try to type otherwise.
If you want to feel better, I suggest using the MFP counter, ensuring you have a balanced macro intake like 40/30/30, and start walking each day. 10 minutes to start if it's all you can do, and try to up it as much as you can each time you take a walk.
Even if you do this however, you'll probably have side effects that include "weight loss" or "changing the way you look"...nothing anyone can do about that.0 -
Scanning through a few of the comments here, it's obvious that this site has a large number of people that think numbers are more important than a healthy lifestyle. I would love to have someone as positive as you as a mfp friend.
how could someone who is over 200 pounds overweight have a healthy lifestyle????
So, are you sitting there with a list of "typical things people say when discriminating against obese people?" when you respond? It's sad and hilarious.
what? I don't discrminate against obese people. It's sad and hilarious that I'm pointing out the obvoious that being over 200 pounds overweight is not healthy? not following why that's sad and hilarious.
You don't discriminate against obese people yet you assume they all have an unhealthy lifestyle. Glad we cleared that right up!
The o.p. did not claim to have a healthy lifestyle, did she? On average, a person who is 200 pounds overweight is less likely to have a healthy lifestyle than a thin person. You disagree with this? If what I'm saying is false, then there wouldn't be so many diseases linked to obesity.
I don't make assumptions about other people's lifestyles based in their weight. I know plenty of unhealthy people who are thin.
sure there are unhealthy people who are thin, but if someone is overweight it is more likely for them to be unhealthy than the thin person. This is just a fact.
I would like to see some peer reviewed studies that show overweight people are more unhealthy.
Ok now, you're just being delusional!
Stop, she is just trolling.
Stop saying that. I am not trolling -- everything I wrote is my personal beliefs. I simply let some of the back and forth go on too long. And overweight and obese are different in terms of health risks -- the person who I asked for studies from clarified she mean obese and we moved right along.0 -
It was my thinking at the start too OP...I was happy to some extent with who I was but uncomfortable and knew that it had to change. So rather than focus on weightloss as per se...which may set myself up for failure I decided to become healthier and knew though that weightloss would be a wonderful bonus. If I focused on the more positive aspect of healthy eating and moving more...I wasn't chained to diet foods or a scale or exercise that I just did for the sake of doing it. It worked. I wish you all the best and am so sorry your meaning has been lost on here.0
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Kept my lengthy comments to a private message but I'm jumping in to say, I am fat and I love my body too.
Those that assume that we're really unhealthy because of weight alone are closed minded. I have absolutely no precursors, warning signs, or medical problems other than a vitamin D deficiency from working in an office too long and the fact that my weight number is 2x what it's "supposed" to be.
There is 100% no shame in the Health at Every Size movement, people. A person CAN be medically healthy and obese at the same time. Sure, the doctor is going to encourage one to lose weight because eventually, you could see problems. However, being very heavy is no guarantee for diabetes and heart problems.
How many "healthy" people are on here that still smoke? Still log alcohol in their diet diary? Who allow themselves to binge eat on holidays? TONS. "Healthy" people on here blasting themselves for hours in the gym because they are scared of a tip up on the scale, verging on bulimic behavior in order to stay away from undefined abs... My god, some of you people are so miserable!
Why are you so scared to accept a woman that loves her body and herself no matter what? What the point is, is to find like-minded people who understand that this is not just about losing weight and being thin, but to love yourself, feel a bit better, and have friends that support you no matter what.
Frankly, this whole thread is full of abhorrent examples of people whose mental state regarding healthy lifestyles is completely skewed and judgmental, and for me, that makes me sad.0 -
All right folks, nothing more to see here. Let's let this post die an honorable death.
Totally agreed. While we're bxtching at her for not working out, we're all sitting in front of our computers (probably with snacks) talking about how fat other people are.
Ugh, I'm getting on my stationary bike & watching Harry Potter weekend. Goodnight xoxoxo
Speak for yourself. it's only midday here & I already did a 6mile workout, housework, and about to go for a walk to the shops.... another 6km trip.
I've had a 0% chobani strawberry yoghurt & a coffee. Walking to the shops to grab lunch for the family. I been on here in between things.... just because you may be the one doing that (and snacking) does not mean everyone else is. ASSUME nothing0 -
I'm trying to figure out how sarahz1442 knows OP is 200 pounds overweight.
Here's a pointless, yet humorous gif:0 -
I'm trying to figure out how sarahz1442 knows OP is 200 pounds overweight.
Here's a pointless, yet humorous gif:
that's a good song and video.0 -
Hmmm....
So you say your goal isn't weight loss "or" changing the way you look...yet you want to feel better? There is a reason you don't "feel" well right now....and I'm sorry but there isn't much you can do that will "make you feel better" while not incurring "weight loss" or "changing the way you look".
If you start eating healthy, odds are you won't consume as much as you'll be full more, thus you will lose weight....
If you start exercising, it will most likely have some effect on how you look.....
My suggestion to you is simple....quit lying to yourself. You know where your individual train is headed, regardless if it makes you feel better to try to type otherwise.
If you want to feel better, I suggest using the MFP counter, ensuring you have a balanced macro intake like 40/30/30, and start walking each day. 10 minutes to start if it's all you can do, and try to up it as much as you can each time you take a walk.
Even if you do this however, you'll probably have side effects that include "weight loss" or "changing the way you look"...nothing anyone can do about that.
Um the point is that her goal isn't to do those things. She accepts that they may happen, but starting this is not about hating how she looks, like so many people on here.
I find it offensive that you said 10 minutes to start if that's all you can do. Reminds me of a trainer that said that to me once. I responded with, can I play racquetball or get on the bike for an hour after that? He was completely surprised that I was physically able to do more than slough along. Us fatties are not all helpless slobs.0 -
Trying to catch up on this post and it's just making me sad. So many of you are negative, mean, discriminating, flat out rude people, and the best part is that you all say it's because you care about someone's health. That's a lie. You don't care about health, you care about having to see people that you deem unattractive, wrong, lazy, disgusting, or whatever (which are all stereotypes that we've LEARNED based on prejudice and not at all on logic or experience) being happy with who they are, especially if you couldn't accept yourself in that state.
If her post, looking for motivation and support on a journey of SELF-IMPROVEMENT, made you angry or disgusted, look within yourselves because you've got a personal problem and it has NOTHING to do with caring about someone else's health. Even if you think someone can't be obese and healthy, it gives you no right to treat people without dignity or respect. Each individual's health is their own business, and whether they chose to do things in life that improve their health or hurt it (and I'm not just talking about weight) that's THEIR business. It's not a license to treat them like they're sub-human.0 -
I'm trying to figure out how sarahz1442 knows OP is 200 pounds overweight.
Here's a pointless, yet humorous gif:
that's a good song and video.0 -
Trying to catch up on this post and it's just making me sad. So many of you are negative, mean, discriminating, flat out rude people, and the best part is that you all say it's because you care about someone's health. That's a lie. You don't care about health, you care about having to see people that you deem unattractive, wrong, lazy, disgusting, or whatever (which are all stereotypes that we've LEARNED based on prejudice and not at all on logic or experience) being happy with who they are, especially if you couldn't accept yourself in that state.
If her post, looking for motivation and support on a journey of SELF-IMPROVEMENT, made you angry or disgusted, look within yourselves because you've got a personal problem and it has NOTHING to do with caring about someone else's health. Even if you think someone can't be obese and healthy, it gives you no right to treat people without dignity or respect. Each individual's health is their own business, and whether they chose to do things in life that improve their health or hurt it (and I'm not just talking about weight) that's THEIR business. It's not a license to treat them like they're sub-human.
Thank you for speaking out like this.0 -
Does anybody actually have a degree in psychology? I have one in behavioral science.....which is a branch of psychology that focuses on behaviors
I have a degree in psychology with emphasis in abnormal psychosis. I don't think there's anything psychologically wrong with the OP.0 -
Hmmm....
So you say your goal isn't weight loss "or" changing the way you look...yet you want to feel better? There is a reason you don't "feel" well right now....and I'm sorry but there isn't much you can do that will "make you feel better" while not incurring "weight loss" or "changing the way you look".
If you start eating healthy, odds are you won't consume as much as you'll be full more, thus you will lose weight....
If you start exercising, it will most likely have some effect on how you look.....
My suggestion to you is simple....quit lying to yourself. You know where your individual train is headed, regardless if it makes you feel better to try to type otherwise.
If you want to feel better, I suggest using the MFP counter, ensuring you have a balanced macro intake like 40/30/30, and start walking each day. 10 minutes to start if it's all you can do, and try to up it as much as you can each time you take a walk.
Even if you do this however, you'll probably have side effects that include "weight loss" or "changing the way you look"...nothing anyone can do about that.
Um the point is that her goal isn't to do those things. She accepts that they may happen, but starting this is not about hating how she looks, like so many people on here.
I find it offensive that you said 10 minutes to start if that's all you can do. Reminds me of a trainer that said that to me once. I responded with, can I play racquetball or get on the bike for an hour after that? He was completely surprised that I was physically able to do more than slough along. Us fatties are not all helpless slobs.
Shhhh, you're lying. You're either a stereotype or you don't exist.
That said, keep kicking *kitten*. I am glad you arrived in this thread. You are amazing and I love your other post.0 -
Oh man, I think I need to stop reading the replies to this thread... it's making me very frustrated.
You CAN be overweight or even obese and be healthy, fit, and take care of your body. Fitness is not one size fits all. And even if you don't agree with that, it's not your place to come to someone's post looking for motivation and reply with a bunch of negativity. Just move it along.
This has probably been said before, and no offense to the happy/fat girl, but being obese or even overweight is NOT healthy, and it will never be healthy. Your heart is strained by every extra pound you carry around. Perhaps you should educate yourself and take a simple health or nutrition class. The simple fact remains that fat and health will never coexist.
Being fat and proud seems like a denial game. That's like saying you're proud you have clogged arteries (because you do) or proud that you will likely die before you're 45 of a stroke or cancer (because you probably will). Having good genes will only keep you alive or well for so long, but your lifestyle will catch up to you.
Hopefully you will reconsider your unhealthy perspective on body image.
Maybe you should educate yourself that weight is a risk factor but not a guarantee of these problems, and the person best suited to say "your heart is strained" is a physician, not someone that read a book that talks about the average person XYZ. I'm 440 pounds, at most I was almost 500, and never once was my heart considered at risk in anyway.
My mom is 300+ and diabetic and when they checked her heart, they said it was the healthiest heart they'd seen in a 30+ year diabetic. EVER.0 -
Hopefully you will reconsider your unhealthy perspective on body image.0
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Trying to catch up on this post and it's just making me sad. So many of you are negative, mean, discriminating, flat out rude people, and the best part is that you all say it's because you care about someone's health. That's a lie. You don't care about health, you care about having to see people that you deem unattractive, wrong, lazy, disgusting, or whatever (which are all stereotypes that we've LEARNED based on prejudice and not at all on logic or experience) being happy with who they are, especially if you couldn't accept yourself in that state.
If her post, looking for motivation and support on a journey of SELF-IMPROVEMENT, made you angry or disgusted, look within yourselves because you've got a personal problem and it has NOTHING to do with caring about someone else's health. Even if you think someone can't be obese and healthy, it gives you no right to treat people without dignity or respect. Each individual's health is their own business, and whether they chose to do things in life that improve their health or hurt it (and I'm not just talking about weight) that's THEIR business. It's not a license to treat them like they're sub-human.
Not true! How is humanity going to progress if more and more people start to think that it's okay to be obese?
Also, I think it's very important to treat your body as best as possible. We only have one body. It's our temple. There are people fighting for their lives due to diseases and conditions beyond their control yet we have people who selfishly decide they don't want to embrace and take care of their capable body. It's sickening. Then they create their own problems.0 -
Hmmm....
So you say your goal isn't weight loss "or" changing the way you look...yet you want to feel better? There is a reason you don't "feel" well right now....and I'm sorry but there isn't much you can do that will "make you feel better" while not incurring "weight loss" or "changing the way you look".
If you start eating healthy, odds are you won't consume as much as you'll be full more, thus you will lose weight....
If you start exercising, it will most likely have some effect on how you look.....
My suggestion to you is simple....quit lying to yourself. You know where your individual train is headed, regardless if it makes you feel better to try to type otherwise.
If you want to feel better, I suggest using the MFP counter, ensuring you have a balanced macro intake like 40/30/30, and start walking each day. 10 minutes to start if it's all you can do, and try to up it as much as you can each time you take a walk.
Even if you do this however, you'll probably have side effects that include "weight loss" or "changing the way you look"...nothing anyone can do about that.
Um the point is that her goal isn't to do those things. She accepts that they may happen, but starting this is not about hating how she looks, like so many people on here.
I find it offensive that you said 10 minutes to start if that's all you can do. Reminds me of a trainer that said that to me once. I responded with, can I play racquetball or get on the bike for an hour after that? He was completely surprised that I was physically able to do more than slough along. Us fatties are not all helpless slobs.
Why would that offend you? After reading the OP opening, I have to assume she hasn't been doing exercise. Would you rather me said, hey OP you need to run 3 miles a day to start?
Get off your horse hun...the truth is the majority of people that are obese are NOT able to do those things. Anyone should be able to see I was inferring to do what you can, and slowly increase it as you are able.0 -
earlier this year one of my internships as part of my masters program to become an occupational therapist was at a rehab hospital. most of the patients i dealt with were for orthopedic rehab post knee or hip replacement and many of them were obese. the obese patients had additional mobility issues and not only did i have to discuss ordering them bariatric grade durable medical equipment, i also had to instruct these patients on a piece of adaptive equipment called a "bottom buddy" for toilet hygiene. basically it's a long handled toilet paper/baby wipe holder. and i got to teach people how to use it and then supervise them while they tried it themselves.
the moral of the story is: if you love and accept your body that's great, but someday i might be helping you wipe your *kitten* because you can't reach it. not fun for either of us, trust me.0 -
Trying to catch up on this post and it's just making me sad. So many of you are negative, mean, discriminating, flat out rude people, and the best part is that you all say it's because you care about someone's health. That's a lie. You don't care about health, you care about having to see people that you deem unattractive, wrong, lazy, disgusting, or whatever (which are all stereotypes that we've LEARNED based on prejudice and not at all on logic or experience) being happy with who they are, especially if you couldn't accept yourself in that state.
If her post, looking for motivation and support on a journey of SELF-IMPROVEMENT, made you angry or disgusted, look within yourselves because you've got a personal problem and it has NOTHING to do with caring about someone else's health. Even if you think someone can't be obese and healthy, it gives you no right to treat people without dignity or respect. Each individual's health is their own business, and whether they chose to do things in life that improve their health or hurt it (and I'm not just talking about weight) that's THEIR business. It's not a license to treat them like they're sub-human.
All the high-fives and clapping for you.0 -
I sort of wish this site had a thingy where you could vote up answers you liked best and vote down answers you liked the worst so that all the good stuff would be at the top.
Don't be silly! This kind of advanced internet forum technology won't be widely available until at least 1998.
Patience.
like an unsubscribe button??0 -
...So many of you are negative, mean, discriminating, flat out rude people, and the best part is that you all say it's because you care about someone's health. That's a lie. You don't care about health, you care about having to see people that you deem unattractive, wrong, lazy, disgusting, or whatever...
...It's not a license to treat them like they're sub-human.
I honest to goodness have not interpreted many posts like this ^^. And I'm usually a person who is a bit sensitive to mean & rude.
Interesting how interpretations can vary.0 -
If you like being fat that is certainly your business. Personally, being overweight was not such a pleasure for me. I was always tired, I couldn't walk through my yard without being out of breath, my knees hurt, my feet hurt, and every morning when I got out of bed my left heel hurt so bad that I could barely walk. All of these things disappeared when I lost 40 pounds. If you feel that being overweight is working for you then that's great. I wish you continued happiness and good health.0
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earlier this year one of my internships as part of my masters program to become an occupational therapist was at a rehab hospital. most of the patients i dealt with were for orthopedic rehab post knee or hip replacement and many of them were obese. the obese patients had additional mobility issues and not only did i have to discuss ordering them bariatric grade durable medical equipment, i also had to instruct these patients on a piece of adaptive equipment called a "bottom buddy" for toilet hygiene. basically it's a long handled toilet paper/baby wipe holder. and i got to teach people how to use it and then supervise them while they tried it themselves.
the moral of the story is: if you love and accept your body that's great, but someday i might be helping you wipe your *kitten* because you can't reach it. not fun for either of us, trust me.
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Kept my lengthy comments to a private message but I'm jumping in to say, I am fat and I love my body too.
Those that assume that we're really unhealthy because of weight alone are closed minded. I have absolutely no precursors, warning signs, or medical problems other than a vitamin D deficiency from working in an office too long and the fact that my weight number is 2x what it's "supposed" to be.
There is 100% no shame in the Health at Every Size movement, people. A person CAN be medically healthy and obese at the same time. Sure, the doctor is going to encourage one to lose weight because eventually, you could see problems. However, being very heavy is no guarantee for diabetes and heart problems.
How many "healthy" people are on here that still smoke? Still log alcohol in their diet diary? Who allow themselves to binge eat on holidays? TONS. "Healthy" people on here blasting themselves for hours in the gym because they are scared of a tip up on the scale, verging on bulimic behavior in order to stay away from undefined abs... My god, some of you people are so miserable!
Why are you so scared to accept a woman that loves her body and herself no matter what? What the point is, is to find like-minded people who understand that this is not just about losing weight and being thin, but to love yourself, feel a bit better, and have friends that support you no matter what.
Frankly, this whole thread is full of abhorrent examples of people whose mental state regarding healthy lifestyles is completely skewed and judgmental, and for me, that makes me sad.0 -
...So many of you are negative, mean, discriminating, flat out rude people, and the best part is that you all say it's because you care about someone's health. That's a lie. You don't care about health, you care about having to see people that you deem unattractive, wrong, lazy, disgusting, or whatever...
...It's not a license to treat them like they're sub-human.
I honest to goodness have not interpreted many posts like this ^^. And I'm usually a person who is a bit sensitive to mean & rude.
Interesting how interpretations can vary.0 -
Hmmm....
So you say your goal isn't weight loss "or" changing the way you look...yet you want to feel better? There is a reason you don't "feel" well right now....and I'm sorry but there isn't much you can do that will "make you feel better" while not incurring "weight loss" or "changing the way you look".
If you start eating healthy, odds are you won't consume as much as you'll be full more, thus you will lose weight....
If you start exercising, it will most likely have some effect on how you look.....
My suggestion to you is simple....quit lying to yourself. You know where your individual train is headed, regardless if it makes you feel better to try to type otherwise.
If you want to feel better, I suggest using the MFP counter, ensuring you have a balanced macro intake like 40/30/30, and start walking each day. 10 minutes to start if it's all you can do, and try to up it as much as you can each time you take a walk.
Even if you do this however, you'll probably have side effects that include "weight loss" or "changing the way you look"...nothing anyone can do about that.
Um the point is that her goal isn't to do those things. She accepts that they may happen, but starting this is not about hating how she looks, like so many people on here.
I find it offensive that you said 10 minutes to start if that's all you can do. Reminds me of a trainer that said that to me once. I responded with, can I play racquetball or get on the bike for an hour after that? He was completely surprised that I was physically able to do more than slough along. Us fatties are not all helpless slobs.
Why would that offend you? After reading the OP opening, I have to assume she hasn't been doing exercise. Would you rather me said, hey OP you need to run 3 miles a day to start?
Get off your horse hun...the truth is the majority of people that are obese are NOT able to do those things. Anyone should be able to see I was inferring to do what you can, and slowly increase it as you are able.
I'm on a horse? Wow!0 -
I'm a bit of a misnomer on this site. I'm a fat girl, heavy into body positivity, who has no intentions of not being fat. What?! Crazy, I know!
Lately I've realized just how physically not-so-great I feel, so I'm trying to honor my body by using intuitive eating and moving more. My goal isn't weight loss or changing the way my body looks. My goal is simply feeling better. If the habits I form cause me to lose weight, so be it, but it's not my intention or my goal.
So just from those two paragraphs alone, you can see why I stick out like a sore thumb on a site like this, something that I'm totally aware of! But I still firmly believe that you do better at reaching your goals when you have support, so I figured I'd say hello and try to make some new friends! Nerds are a plus, but certainly not necessary!
I'm not quite nerdy but I just sent you a friend request. That kind of positivity is something I need in my life, and I'd love to be a support system for you!!0
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