Spa owner yells at Mom of Autistic child-Facebook Firestorm

Then why are you arguing when you agree with me that you were "snidely insulting people who don't want to put up with children raising hell and bothering others as "entitled"."

Good grief! The word "entitled" has to do with her thinking that way because she's spending more money.

Hells Bells!

Raise your hand if you think that paying more for something doesn't entitle you to more than someone who is paying less for the same thing. It's not a "way of thinking". It's what entitlement MEANS.

Unless you routinely pay more for something than necessary without getting something more in return. But that would seem to be the height of foolish consumerism.

VERY well put.

Hells Bells!
Raise your hand if you think that paying more for something doesn't entitle you to more than someone who is paying less for the same thing. It's not a "way of thinking". It's what entitlement MEANS.
Unless you routinely pay more for something than necessary without getting something more in return. But that would seem to be the height of foolish consumerism.

I have no idea what your problem is with my use of that word. Perhaps because I didn't say, "sense of entitlement"?

Sense of Entitlement

Definition:

Sense of Entitlement - An unrealistic, unmerited or inappropriate expectation of favorable living conditions and favorable treatment at the hands of others.

For example, "I expect your baby to not cry around me when I'm paying $50 on a haircut instead of $25".

I just came from an overseas tour. The difference in how people treat children in places of business was vastly different. I can't tell you how many times my children were entertained, etc. while we were busy with trying to do business with various establishments. It certainly was not expected, given our culture, but it was refreshing. Shop and restaurant employees often acted as if my children were a delight and encouraged interaction rather than summarily ignoring them or expecting them to be seen but not heard. That didn't mean that manners weren't expected, but rather that it seemed people understood these were CHILDREN. They also understood that adults still needed to get business done and I often felt my business was appreciated.

I do have a special needs child as well as two that aren't. Regardless of either scenario, I appreciate people treating my children kindly, having compassion, and understanding that they are not mini adults. It takes time for children to learn and grow. It is especially important when I am frazzled and having to work through a meltdown. Yes, we have a variety of types of parents, have a variety of parenting styles, etc. Not all parents are meant to be parents either. But regardless of all of that, one cannot ever judge from a single incident when you see any scenario between parent and child. You don't know the background. It is amazing the level of judgement we have to deal with as parents in our society. It's crippling really. People also need to understand that kids are kids. Stuff happens. Yes, sometimes they even have tantrums over the toy they didn't want. I do agree that there are various ways to reduce the distraction, etc. but again, without knowing the background, you simply cannot know. Not every child responds the same and not every situatiojn can be avoided.

There ARE places I am less likely to take my kids to but this place allows kid haircuts. Kids, whether they have a special need or not, are bound to cry. I would probably not leave mid-haircut. I would, however, do what I could to minimize the impact. I may or may not have thought as clearly to find just the right solution but that doesn't mean I am being a lazy or disrespectful parent. I really do not understand all this hate towards children being children.

I have mixed feelings about the mob mentality against this shop/owner, but there seems to he a history here of being rude, especially to children yet she allows and seems to even advertise children services. (Read other articles). For a business to run, customer service is an important aspect.

Many of you would absolutely hate me. There have been a few moments when I cannot get my child with special needs to vacate the premises easily and often what looks like I am being irresponsible, by standards here, is really some smart therapy techniques I am trying to work through to deescalate so we can leave without further more dramatic escalation that might make the situation much worse. Luckily that's not the case the majority of the time and mostly you will see a well behaved child, but some things can be hit just so and I do my best. Here is the thing, he isn't a 2 year old. The scenario in this thread is common for 2 year olds. Add sensory issues, and it would be even harder. That doesn't mean the child shouldn't get a haircut, especially in a familiar place with advertised children haircuts. Did anyone stop and think that maybe this mom felt this hair stylist was familiar, had more compassion or maybe the noisier places would be more traumatic for the child? If the place catered to adults only, I might understand. This one didn't. Even if it did, the shop owner's behavior, as it is presented to us, was uncalled for.

I would MUCH rather deal with being exposed to a child having a meltdown than the hoards of rude adults we encounter all the time. Oh wait, that's acceptable.

I have mixed feelings about the mob mentality against this shop/owner, but there seems to he a history here of being rude, especially to children yet she allows and seems to even advertise children services. (Read other articles). For a business to run, customer service is an important aspect.

If you have mixed feelings about it, I have no issue with you since it's not a black and white situation. My issue is with the indignant outrage.

I got sick of this tread about 10 pages ago, but this sums it up really well.

I got sick of this tread about 10 pages ago, but this sums it up really well.

So sick of it, you had to keep coming back to read and comment?

I'm sorry for whatever you're going through so you feel it is necessary to come online and attack people. Hope it gets better.

I'm sorry for whatever you're going through so you feel it is necessary to come online and attack people. Hope it gets better.

I was being sarcastic; not attacking you. Funny how you're okay with some of the ugly comments people are making about kids and parents here, but when I comment questioning their comments, I'm seen as "attacking".

It doesn't make me feel any better if you are embarrassed and/or aware that your child has spoiled my day.

A crying child spoils your day? Maybe if you changed your attitude about life, little things wouldn't spoil your day do easily.

Try spending an 11 hour flight sitting next to a screaming child that rips out one of your earrings while the mom tells you how adorable their angel is. Pretty sure that screaming spawn of Satan ruined my day as well as everyone else on the flight and it would take the attitude of a saint not to feel that way

I got sick of this tread about 10 pages ago, but this sums it up really well.

So sick of it, you had to keep coming back to read and comment?

I'm sorry for whatever you're going through so you feel it is necessary to come online and attack people. Hope it gets better.

Why are you so upperty? You criticised my post. I thought we were supposed to reply to the op's post NOT other people's comments? You're just plain nasty in my opinion and I don't even know you. Sorry, but don't give out snarky comments then act all innocent when posters pull you up over it........nuff said :yawn:

Yours was an example of "upperty" outraged people behind keyboards. I asked what good it does to get outraged from thousands ofmiles away.
The post I agreed with on the last page that lead to a personal attack said, "My issue is with the indignant outrage." Same issue.

I would welcome the temper tantrum of a child any day compared to the one's the "adults" are having on this thread.

Happy birthday!




ETA: Whoops, sorry...

...wrong thread.