I'm tired, cranky now I read Kate Upton is fat?!

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  • mperrott2205
    mperrott2205 Posts: 737 Member
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  • ILiftHeavyAcrylics
    ILiftHeavyAcrylics Posts: 27,732 Member
    She's not fat, but I do find her weight average and that's not good enough for a model.

    We need more average models. These really thin, airbrushed ones we have are the reason why so many girls have eating disorders.

    What do we need average models for? We have average people everywhere. Models are supposed to represent a FANTASY. We can't handle the fact that we aren't perfect so we have to make art that's mediocre? C'mon.

    Wha...I...I have no words for this.

    I don't ever fantasize about my ribcage and hip bones sticking out.

    ^^ You took the burger... Oopps I mean words right outta my mouth!!! I dont find anything attractive or sexy about skin on bones...yuk!


    Another person who sees a problem with others criticizing Kate Upton's weight, but who does not see a problem with criticizing the weight of traditional runway models. Nice.

    Why is it necessary to say "yuk" about another woman's body at all? You can say that you think Kate Upton has a beautiful figure without saying that women who don't have her figure are gross. Novel concept in this thread, I know. :noway:
  • sweetchildomine
    sweetchildomine Posts: 872 Member
    Something funny to me...I don't think Kate Upton is fat but I just looked up her measurements and I have almost the same measurements as her and I think that I'm fat LOL.

    Go figure.
  • Cutting4life
    Cutting4life Posts: 505 Member
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  • Perplexities
    Perplexities Posts: 612 Member
    She's not fat, but I do find her weight average and that's not good enough for a model.

    We need more average models. These really thin, airbrushed ones we have are the reason why so many girls have eating disorders.

    What do we need average models for? We have average people everywhere. Models are supposed to represent a FANTASY. We can't handle the fact that we aren't perfect so we have to make art that's mediocre? C'mon.

    Wha...I...I have no words for this.

    I don't ever fantasize about my ribcage and hip bones sticking out.

    ^^ You took the burger... Oopps I mean words right outta my mouth!!! I dont find anything attractive or sexy about skin on bones...yuk!


    Another person who sees a problem with others criticizing Kate Upton's weight, but who does not see a problem with criticizing the weight of traditional runway models. Nice.

    Why is it necessary to say "yuk" about another woman's body at all? You can say that you think Kate Upton has a beautiful figure without saying that women who don't have her figure are gross. Novel concept in this thread, I know. :noway:

    I don't like people who don't like other people, because people who don't like other people aren't the kind of people I like.
  • myofibril
    myofibril Posts: 4,500 Member
    This thread...I don't even...

    It seems fat is still, very much, a feminist issue.

    Why is to so much harder to celebrate women's bodies for the wonderful, diverse range that they come in (viva la difference) rather than belittle, criticise, mock, or degrade them?
  • maundrelle
    maundrelle Posts: 39 Member
    How do you know she doesn't work out?

    She works hard, apparently, otherwise she wouldn't be a famous model.

    Just because a model is plus size does not mean they don't work out or live an unhealthy lifestyle. You should know that industry-standard models (non plus size) are not an accurate representation of women in general. They don't "work harder", they are just thinner.

    Have a good day :smile:
  • dianeb613
    dianeb613 Posts: 121 Member
    WTF? Wow this world is crazy.
  • casy84
    casy84 Posts: 290 Member
    Lifting a cheesburger off a plate and holding it in the air without taking a bite is 'hard work'.
  • aloranger7708
    aloranger7708 Posts: 422 Member
    When I saw her on the cover of sports illustrated, I was like, "Wow; they put a plus size model on the cover. That's progressive." She's not "fat" for a person walking on the street, but she certainly has at least 2 times the body fat of a standard model. Why does she get paid for that? I think models should have to work for it... Their job is to look good... That's all they have to do. And she doesn't bother to work out? That's just lazy.

    :huh: :noway:
  • MiawMiawMiaw
    MiawMiawMiaw Posts: 24 Member
    I'd love to be as 'fat' as her!
  • taunto
    taunto Posts: 6,420 Member
    Lifting a cheesburger off a plate and holding it in the air without taking a bite is 'hard work'.

    I used to get payed for playing World Of Warcraft.

    My friends got paid $25k for playing a video game.

    It isn't about "hard work". Its about being able to do the job well enough for others to hire you. I mean if you come to Middle East, there are people here who's sole "business" is to sponsor immigrants into the country and since any immigrant cannot work without a sponsor, all these businessmen have to do is give them sponsorship (5 minutes work) and collect thousands from the immigrants.
  • Nutella91
    Nutella91 Posts: 624 Member
    she ain't fat but she shouldn't model
  • taunto
    taunto Posts: 6,420 Member
    she ain't fat but she shouldn't model

    I think the modeling agencies and the companies hiring her to model for her would disagree :)
  • Perplexities
    Perplexities Posts: 612 Member
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  • Amiike
    Amiike Posts: 21
    Amazing what the media did to some people. Kate looks stunning and healthy to me..
  • ILiftHeavyAcrylics
    ILiftHeavyAcrylics Posts: 27,732 Member
    She's not fat, but I do find her weight average and that's not good enough for a model.

    We need more average models. These really thin, airbrushed ones we have are the reason why so many girls have eating disorders.

    What do we need average models for? We have average people everywhere. Models are supposed to represent a FANTASY. We can't handle the fact that we aren't perfect so we have to make art that's mediocre? C'mon.

    Wha...I...I have no words for this.

    I don't ever fantasize about my ribcage and hip bones sticking out.

    ^^ You took the burger... Oopps I mean words right outta my mouth!!! I dont find anything attractive or sexy about skin on bones...yuk!


    Another person who sees a problem with others criticizing Kate Upton's weight, but who does not see a problem with criticizing the weight of traditional runway models. Nice.

    Why is it necessary to say "yuk" about another woman's body at all? You can say that you think Kate Upton has a beautiful figure without saying that women who don't have her figure are gross. Novel concept in this thread, I know. :noway:

    I don't like people who don't like other people, because people who don't like other people aren't the kind of people I like.

    :laugh:

    Also I'm cranky this morning. I don't know if you could tell. :flowerforyou:
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    How do you know she doesn't work out?

    She works hard, apparently, otherwise she wouldn't be a famous model.

    Just because a model is plus size does not mean they don't work out or live an unhealthy lifestyle. You should know that industry-standard models (non plus size) are not an accurate representation of women in general. They don't "work harder", they are just thinner.

    Have a good day :smile:
    She may have said that in an interview. It has been a trend for a very long time for models and actresses to claim they don't watch what they eat and don't exercise.

    Doesn't mean it's true, though. I highly doubt Kate Upton doesn't exercise and I'm certain she doesn't eat those burgers on the regular.
  • Perplexities
    Perplexities Posts: 612 Member
    She's not fat, but I do find her weight average and that's not good enough for a model.

    We need more average models. These really thin, airbrushed ones we have are the reason why so many girls have eating disorders.

    What do we need average models for? We have average people everywhere. Models are supposed to represent a FANTASY. We can't handle the fact that we aren't perfect so we have to make art that's mediocre? C'mon.

    Wha...I...I have no words for this.

    I don't ever fantasize about my ribcage and hip bones sticking out.

    ^^ You took the burger... Oopps I mean words right outta my mouth!!! I dont find anything attractive or sexy about skin on bones...yuk!


    Another person who sees a problem with others criticizing Kate Upton's weight, but who does not see a problem with criticizing the weight of traditional runway models. Nice.

    Why is it necessary to say "yuk" about another woman's body at all? You can say that you think Kate Upton has a beautiful figure without saying that women who don't have her figure are gross. Novel concept in this thread, I know. :noway:

    I don't like people who don't like other people, because people who don't like other people aren't the kind of people I like.

    :laugh:

    Also I'm cranky this morning. I don't know if you could tell. :flowerforyou:

    had no idea. :happy:
  • PomegranatePriestess
    PomegranatePriestess Posts: 2,455 Member
    I evidently still have sleep in my eyes... could someone please help me find the "fat" on Kate Upton?

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  • Perplexities
    Perplexities Posts: 612 Member
    I evidently still have sleep in my eyes... could someone please help me find the "fat" on Kate Upton?

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    That isn't even a recent picture, not to mention it's edited.
  • Cutting4life
    Cutting4life Posts: 505 Member
    I evidently still have sleep in my eyes... could someone please help me find the "fat" on Kate Upton?

    sure

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  • PomegranatePriestess
    PomegranatePriestess Posts: 2,455 Member
    Every single professional photo is edited. Nothing that gets printed in a magazine is "unedited." Photoshop isn't just about making people look thinner than they are, though that seems to be everyone's focus in the forum.

    The girl is a model for a reason. It's really that simple. To say she's not model material is ridiculous since she's clearly making a living being a model, and therefore by default she IS model material. A thousand people on MFP could deem her unfit to be a model and it wouldn't make any difference at all... she's already doing it, without their approval. Thankfully, it is not required.

    A note about photography and beauty: there are women who look great in real life who fall apart on film. I've dealt with it myself on a project: I brought a group of women in to be photographed and one of them happened to be someone I knew who I believed would be a good choice. She was not photogenic, despite being attractive in the flesh. There were other girls who came in that I thought wouldn't make it and they wound up being chosen over my friend. If you had seen them in person, you wouldn't recognize them on the final photos for the poster. The difference was that drastic. And I'm not talking about Photoshop magic, because we didn't do any work to the photos while we were choosing. We were working from the raw shots, and the raw shots were telling a different story than what we saw in person. The camera is fickle. It doesn't do every woman justice, and yet it blesses some immeasurably.
  • UsedToBeHusky
    UsedToBeHusky Posts: 15,228 Member
    Every single professional photo is edited. Nothing that gets printed in a magazine is "unedited." Photoshop isn't just about making people look thinner than they are, though that seems to be everyone's focus in the forum.

    The girl is a model for a reason. It's really that simple. To say she's not model material is ridiculous since she's clearly making a living being a model, and therefore by default she IS model material. A thousand people on MFP could deem her unfit to be a model and it wouldn't make any difference at all... she's already doing it, without their approval. Thankfully, it is not required.

    A note about photography and beauty: there are women who look great in real life who fall apart on film. I've dealt with it myself on a project: I brought a group of women in to be photographed and one of them happened to be someone I knew who I believed would be a good choice. She was not photogenic, despite being attractive in the flesh. There were other girls who came in that I thought wouldn't make it and they wound up being chosen over my friend. If you had seen them in person, you wouldn't recognize them on the final photos for the poster. The difference was that drastic. And I'm not talking about Photoshop magic, because we didn't do any work to the photos while we were choosing. We were working from the raw shots, and the raw shots were telling a different story than what we saw in person. The camera is fickle. It doesn't do every woman justice, and yet it blesses some immeasurably.

    My friend is a portrait photographer. She tells people up front that she can't do anything with Photoshop to make you look thinner... at least not naturally.
  • kmartinixx
    kmartinixx Posts: 197
    Why is she too "fat" and why does she need to lose an "inch or two" to be a model? I mean is it really that wrong to have a model out there who is representing the not-skinny crowd? She's just as beautiful as any other model in my opinion. Just because she is a little bigger doesn't make her any less a model.
  • ks4e
    ks4e Posts: 374 Member
    I have heard she only got famous because her dad is someone who is very rich and basically paid for her to be "discovered." Could be rumors.
  • PomegranatePriestess
    PomegranatePriestess Posts: 2,455 Member
    My friend is a portrait photographer. She tells people up front that she can't do anything with Photoshop to make you look thinner... at least not naturally.

    They carve curves into women for magazine covers all the time. And yes, it often looks totally unnatural -- and gives people the impression that if you have a crease in your side when you lean to one side or start to turn your body, you're fat.
  • IpuffyheartHeelsinthegym
    IpuffyheartHeelsinthegym Posts: 5,573 Member
    she ain't fat but she shouldn't model

    I guess she should be happy you're not the one to make that decision. :wink:
  • LorinaLynn
    LorinaLynn Posts: 13,247 Member
    My friend is a portrait photographer. She tells people up front that she can't do anything with Photoshop to make you look thinner... at least not naturally.

    She can hire me to do her 'shopping for her. :wink:

    I did this a year ago when this topic popped up the first time. Or at least the first time I saw it. I wanted to see what it would take to make the photo of Kate Upton that was circulating the forums to be more "magazine ready." I have an ancient copy of photoshop on an ancient computer, rusty 'shopping skills, and no extra filters or tools like a stylus pen. Less than 10 minutes later, done while eating lunch, here's the results.


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  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    My friend is a portrait photographer. She tells people up front that she can't do anything with Photoshop to make you look thinner... at least not naturally.

    Years ago, Cindy Crawford was on some morning show and they showed a before and after of her, and the process used, where they took several inches off of her thighs with PhotoShop. It is absolutely doable and absolutely they do it for magazines and such.
    I evidently still have sleep in my eyes... could someone please help me find the "fat" on Kate Upton?

    sure

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    That's a bad photo at an unflattering angle. Not really showing fat.