Sugar addiction....
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Maybe you're just weird.
I love sweets, I love chocolate, I love candy bars! I eat cookies/ice cream damn near daily...and even I would pick the strawberries. A nice juicy ripe strawberry and the way it just bursts into your mouth when you sink your teeth in? That mouth feel?
Snickers ain't got nothing on that.
We are all weird in one way or another. I, for example, cannot stand the slightest whiff of cigarette smoke, I can't imagine ever smoking a single one, let alone being addicted to them.
Not everyone finds pleasure in the same things, so behavioral addictions affect different people differently.0 -
Once I started taking zinc every day. I'm noticing I'm not craving sweets after I eat. Also I noticed my appetite seems normal. I was always hungry before I started taking zinc even after I ate. Now I eat and I'm good for a few hours but this is just what worked for me.0
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I eat a pint of ice cream a night as well. I was also a smoker of 2 packs a day for 17 years, quit. Mental fortitude is all that's needed.
This, of course, is true for breaking any addiction.
However, as we know, it's very often very difficult to summon the mental fortitude required.0 -
I think you need to get out more if this is your idea of fun ...I don't enjoy the condition. I enjoy the fact that the "sugar isn't evil" argument doesn't apply to me.0 -
I eat a pint of ice cream a night as well. I was also a smoker of 2 packs a day for 17 years, quit. Mental fortitude is all that's needed.
This, of course, is true for breaking any addiction.
However, as we know, it's very often very difficult to summon the mental fortitude required.
So if what I understand is correct, all you need is will power (but you're calling it mental fortitude in this case) and we can break the sugar addiction? I feel like I'm chasing my tail.0 -
How exactly does that definition have anything more to do with addiction than stupid behavior in general?
This page might educate you on what the difference is between behavioral addiction vs. stupid behavior in general:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavioral_addictionNever mind, no point in engaging in this conversation.
Is this like plugging your fingers in your ears and saying, "LALALALALALA"?If you want to make excuses, it only affects you. No one else needs to believe those excuses for them to be effective in holding you back though.
Recognizing addiction problems is not an excuse unless you refuse to take steps to address the problem.
Many people here have recognized their food behavior problem and are looking for advice on how to address it. This is not synonymous with looking for an excuse.0 -
omg the people telling this girl to stop eating sugar
STOP
that is a terrible idea.
just eat it in moderation.
enjoy one treat a day. then lessen it gradually down to one sweet treat a week.
DON"T STOP EATING SUGAR ALL TOGETHER you will hate life.
I tried this and IT DOES NOT WORK0 -
So if what I understand is correct, all you need is will power (but you're calling it mental fortitude in this case) and we can break the sugar addiction? I feel like I'm chasing my tail.
"All you need" is will power to break any addiction.
It just often requires more than people can summon.
Look how many people on this forum have yo-yo dieted their entire lives. They cannot summon the willpower to stick to a calorie deficit and suffer through being hungry or denying the pleasure they get from eating food.
How many people start gym memberships in January and are gone by February.
Willpower is not an easy thing to come by.0 -
omg the people telling this girl to stop eating sugar
STOP
that is a terrible idea.
just eat it in moderation.
enjoy one treat a day. then lessen it gradually down to one sweet treat a week.
DON"T STOP EATING SUGAR ALL TOGETHER you will hate life.
I tried this and IT DOES NOT WORK
It didn't work.... for you. It worked for me. I had to cold turkey for a month before I could reintroduce it into my diet. She's asking what worked for people, and those are the answers that she's getting. They're all going to vary, because different strokes work for different folks.0 -
How exactly does that definition have anything more to do with addiction than stupid behavior in general?
This page might educate you on what the difference is between behavioral addiction vs. stupid behavior in general:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavioral_addictionNever mind, no point in engaging in this conversation.
Is this like plugging your fingers in your ears and saying, "LALALALALALA"?If you want to make excuses, it only affects you. No one else needs to believe those excuses for them to be effective in holding you back though.
Recognizing addiction problems is not an excuse unless you refuse to take steps to address the problem.
Many people here have recognized their food behavior problem and are looking for advice on how to address it. This is not synonymous with looking for an excuse.
lulz
You have an uncanny ability to miss points, sarcasm and humor.
First off, the definition of addiction the person whom I was responding to was a joking definition of "insanity" or "stupidity" depending on who is telling the joke. Go back and read it. I found it funny that that person provided that definition rather than providing something along the lines of the link that you just posted. I didn't consider such a ridiculous statement to warrant a serious response.
I'm familiar with that wiki. I'm familiar with the DSM. I have criticisms which I will keep to myself because the level of conversation here is not exactly high.
You address real addiction problems with serious work and personal responsibility. Those are attributes I do not see represented here.0 -
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Oh, FFS.
The thread is on sugar addiction, not sex addiction. The above was meant in jest.
I poked the other person, but come on. Back to the subject at hand.
Sorry, I could not tell from your post that you were joking about sex addiction. It is a valid behavioral addiction just like gambling addiction, internet addiction, work addiction, or food addiction.0 -
You have an uncanny ability to miss points, sarcasm and humor.
May I suggest that if you are posting something intended to be a joke that you include the smiley symbol.
I do not find that you are not doing a very good job of expressing sarcasm and humor.I'm familiar with that website. I'm familiar with the DSM. I have criticisms which I will keep to myself because the level of conversation here is not exactly high.
Great!You address real addiction problems with serious work and personal responsibility. Those are attributes I do not see represented here.
Yes, you do need to address real addiction problems, including real behavioral addiction problems, with serious work and personal responsibility. The first step is acknowledging behavioral addiction problems.
There are many people here who have taken control of what they eat and have moved to a more healthy life. I've been doing it since April 19th and am down 25 pounds.0 -
LOL!!!!0 -
You have an uncanny ability to miss points, sarcasm and humor.
May I suggest that if you are posting something intended to be a joke that you include the smiley symbol.
I do not find that you are not doing a very good job of expressing sarcasm and humor.I'm familiar with that website. I'm familiar with the DSM. I have criticisms which I will keep to myself because the level of conversation here is not exactly high.
Great!You address real addiction problems with serious work and personal responsibility. Those are attributes I do not see represented here.
Yes, you do need to address real addiction problems, including real behavioral addiction problems, with serious work and personal responsibility. The first step is acknowledging behavioral addiction problems.
There are many people here who have taken control of what they eat and have moved to a more healthy life. I've been doing it since April 19th and am down 25 pounds.
smh
best of luck to you0 -
Oh, FFS.
The thread is on sugar addiction, not sex addiction. The above was meant in jest.
I poked the other person, but come on. Back to the subject at hand.
Sorry, I could not tell from your post that you were joking about sex addiction. It is a valid behavioral addiction just like gambling addiction, internet addiction, work addiction, or food addiction.
Actually, there's research that suggests that "sex addiction" isn't really an addiction after all.
http://www.socioaffectiveneuroscipsychol.net/index.php/snp/article/view/20770/289950 -
omg the people telling this girl to stop eating sugar
STOP
that is a terrible idea.
just eat it in moderation.
enjoy one treat a day. then lessen it gradually down to one sweet treat a week.
DON"T STOP EATING SUGAR ALL TOGETHER you will hate life.
I tried this and IT DOES NOT WORK
It didn't work.... for you. It worked for me. I had to cold turkey for a month before I could reintroduce it into my diet. She's asking what worked for people, and those are the answers that she's getting. They're all going to vary, because different strokes work for different folks.
Well I guess that is possible. But doing something like cutting out something you love so much you consider it an "addiction"....I'm sorry, I would think that after a few months at the most it would completely backlash and cause a "relapse" even worse than in the first place. That's what happened in my case (and also, just to be honest about two other people I know did the same thing I did.) It just doesn't seem sustainable.
If it worked for you, who am I to say it's wrong I guess. So congratulations on your success! :]
And you are very right, we will all have a wide range of views on this topic here.
So I will just say she probably shouldn't follow ANYONE's advice on this website.
She should just talk to her doctor or a nutritionist.0 -
Oh, FFS.
The thread is on sugar addiction, not sex addiction. The above was meant in jest.
I poked the other person, but come on. Back to the subject at hand.
Sorry, I could not tell from your post that you were joking about sex addiction. It is a valid behavioral addiction just like gambling addiction, internet addiction, work addiction, or food addiction.
I posted a comment in jest, but that doesn't mean that I believe in the validity of sex addiction. I'll leave it at that.0 -
I have an addiction to processed sugar, so I am trying to eat fruit every time I have a craving. It helps.0
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I have an addiction to processed sugar, so I am trying to eat fruit every time I have a craving. It helps.
so you are addicted to sugar then, right?0 -
I believe I know what you're talking about, and yes there are actually some of us who do have a real addiction to sugar. I am one, so I understand. I've been battling this for many years, and friends don't understand. I found an article on it once and mentioned it to my sister. Turns out, she struggles with the same thing. My brother heard us talking and said that my day would go into a store and instead of one candy bar, he'd throw 10 on the seat. He wasn't overweight, and neither were my sister and I until we started getting older (30's and 40's) As a kid, I used to eat sugar with a spoon right from the sugar bowl. Of course my mom would have freaked if she knew! If you even take a taste of sugar it sends you on a binge for days? If you allow yourself a little bowl of ice cream, the next thing you know you cant stop till the whole half gallon is gone, then when you start to crash you look for cookies, cake, or some other form of sweets? One M&M turns into needing nothing but sugar for the rest of the day? Thats me and I have overcome it. So can you. One thing to know is that it takes 3 to 4 days of wiping out ALL forms of sugar to detox from it, and I mean everything that contains sugar aside from fruit. Even at that, its best to stick to apples or berries. You will have mood swings and headaches, you just have to deal with it. It will stop after those few days. From there, it is about willpower, you MUST avoid the triggers, and don't take that first bite. Redirect your brain to something else. Have some coffee or something with caffeine. Also, be very careful with sugar substitutes, even natural ones like agave nectar. The only sweetener I've found that helps me stay on track is pure stevia powder. Not the junk you get in the grocery store, that contains other artificial sweeteners too. I get it online, it should be 95% steviosides. I will PM you the name of where I get it. One thing, it is very sweet, but does have a bitter kick to it. I got used to it and prefer it to other stuff now. Good luck to you!!!!! 0
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And I would bet 90% of them didn't cut any other sugar source, either.
And many of those people with the toned muscles and washboard abs did not always have toned muscles and washboard abs.I don't know if anyone else has noticed, but in general, the fit people that have selfies with toned muscles and washboard abs think that sugar isn't addictive, while the heavier ones seem to think it is.
Some of them were once 300 pounds.
And not one of those 300lb'ers got fat from eating too much fruit, nor lost weight from cutting fruit from their diets.
Forgive the anecdote, but I lost 10 lbs over the course of 5-6 weeks mostly by cutting the refined sugar from my diet and replacing it with less sugary and natural sugar alternatives. I got rid of sugary yogurts, protein bars, sports & energy drinks, and fruit juices with added sugar. That amounted to going from over 100gs a day to under 50gs of refined sugar. And that was a loss of 10 "hard" lbs, as I dropped from about 180-170 on a 6 ft frame
dude, you ate less and lost weight..congratulations you have unlocked the ancient mayan secret to weight loss...
So now you are telling me how much I ate? That doesn't help your credibility on the subject.0 -
You obviously ate less, or moved more. You had a deficit in calories -- it's the ONLY way you can lose. Different fad diets accomplish the same thing in different ways but any way you slice it weight comes off when you expend more energy than you take in. Do you think that if you ate at a surplus but avoided sugar and carbs you wouldn't gain?0
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And I would bet 90% of them didn't cut any other sugar source, either.
And many of those people with the toned muscles and washboard abs did not always have toned muscles and washboard abs.I don't know if anyone else has noticed, but in general, the fit people that have selfies with toned muscles and washboard abs think that sugar isn't addictive, while the heavier ones seem to think it is.
Some of them were once 300 pounds.
And not one of those 300lb'ers got fat from eating too much fruit, nor lost weight from cutting fruit from their diets.
Forgive the anecdote, but I lost 10 lbs over the course of 5-6 weeks mostly by cutting the refined sugar from my diet and replacing it with less sugary and natural sugar alternatives. I got rid of sugary yogurts, protein bars, sports & energy drinks, and fruit juices with added sugar. That amounted to going from over 100gs a day to under 50gs of refined sugar. And that was a loss of 10 "hard" lbs, as I dropped from about 180-170 on a 6 ft frame
dude, you ate less and lost weight..congratulations you have unlocked the ancient mayan secret to weight loss...
So now you are telling me how much I ate? That doesn't help your credibility on the subject.
Fruit is hard to log.0 -
You obviously ate less, or moved more. You had a deficit in calories -- it's the ONLY way you can lose. Different fad diets accomplish the same thing in different ways but any way you slice it weight comes off when you expend more energy than you take in. Do you think that if you ate at a surplus but avoided sugar and carbs you wouldn't gain?
Yes - as I posted above earlier, sugar affects the way your body stores fat and burns energy. What you eat is relevant, if you honestly think your body weight, fat storage, and metabolism is the same whether eating a 2,200 calories of donuts and eating 2,200 calories of a balanced diet, we have probably hit a wall and aren't going to get anywhere with this discussion.0 -
You obviously ate less, or moved more. You had a deficit in calories -- it's the ONLY way you can lose. Different fad diets accomplish the same thing in different ways but any way you slice it weight comes off when you expend more energy than you take in. Do you think that if you ate at a surplus but avoided sugar and carbs you wouldn't gain?
Yes - as I posted above earlier, sugar affects the way your body stores fat and burns energy. What you eat is relevant, if you honestly think your body weight, fat storage, and metabolism is the same whether eating a 2,200 calories of donuts and eating 2,200 calories of a balanced diet, we have probably hit a wall and aren't going to get anywhere with this discussion.
Well as far as weight loss goes it would be the same. You ratio of lean mass:fat loss would likely be higher on the twinkie diet since you're not getting adequate protein but that's just a guess on my part. Do you think that a person eating a balanced diet of 2200 calories would lose differently than someone eating 2200 of grilled chicken breast? As far as I can tell no one here is saying you ONLY eat sugar, I think what we're saying is you don't have to give it up. The same way I'm sure you don't just eat grilled plain chicken.0 -
So after reading what everyone had to say today, I decided to go see my doctor. She recommended cutting down as much as I can on all the sweets. She suggested making a smoothie daily with fruit to get my "fix". She wants to see me again in a month to see how it's going. She also didn't agree with going cold turkey, rather making better choices and reminding myself that I don't need to consume all the stuff I crave to be happy.
Thank you to everyone who responded. I appreciate all the advice and laughs you gave me.0 -
Well, geesh! You could have skipped the doctor and just given ME the money! lolSo after reading what everyone had to say today, I decided to go see my doctor. She recommended cutting down as much as I can on all the sweets. She suggested making a smoothie daily with fruit to get my "fix". She wants to see me again in a month to see how it's going. She also didn't agree with going cold turkey, rather making better choices and reminding myself that I don't need to consume all the stuff I crave to be happy.
Thank you to everyone who responded. I appreciate all the advice and laughs you gave me.
Glad you got her advice, though.0 -
I'm pretty sure what that REALLY means is, "I really like the taste of the foods that contain processed sugar so I've been avoiding them and choosing better options."I have an addiction to processed sugar, so I am trying to eat fruit every time I have a craving. It helps.
so you are addicted to sugar then, right?0 -
I'm pretty sure what that REALLY means is, "I really like the taste of the foods that contain processed sugar so I've been avoiding them and choosing better options."I have an addiction to processed sugar, so I am trying to eat fruit every time I have a craving. It helps.
so you are addicted to sugar then, right?0
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