Beware the uninformed

Alright guys, good work today. I'll meet you back at the secret bully group in an hour for milk and graham crackers.

make it pop tarts and ice cream and I'm in like a dirty shirt

wait. "In like a dirty shirt"? What does this mean?

I have to admit, I'd rather have cookies and ice cream.


#rebel food

Come sit by me. My shirt is clean and I have both cookies and ice cream.

(also my hair is clean too and smells nice. Irrelevant but I'm throwing that out there anyway)

You know, I think I'd rather have milk and graham crackers. I'm kind of cookied out right now.


But, I am definitely not cuddling ILiftHeavyAcrylics'ed out right now. I don't even think that's possible.

In for cuddles with Otter and Amber!!

A bit late in...

At this point I find myself wondering why any of you are even on this website.

(Please read in the voice from the beggining of the original "The Prisoner" series._
I am here for INFORMATION.

I want to be 'supported' by, as your initial post suggests, useful information.
If I provide information that is incorrect, has been superseeded by new evidence or the like I do want people to be "supportive", I want them to clearly explain why I I'm incorrectly informed.

So, of course the first thing when I saw your first post here was to have a look at what information you are offering.
So, in response to a 114lb female trying to gain weight who is actually losing, you reply:

As you build muscle your metabolism will increase, as muscle even at rest requires more than fat does. This is one of the issues with BMI calculators, they don't always account for muscle mass vs. fat mass. if you are eating bad stuff that is high in sugar this could be affecting your metabolism as well. Try to hit your calories using healthier foods like whole-grain pastas, breads and brown rice, as well as plenty of lean protein like chicken or 93/7 beef.

First off, yes muscle at rest does require more calories than fat. But a very small amount. At the high end, maybe 10 calories per pound. When compared to fat, we're talking 2-6 calories per pound more than fat. So if she lost 20lb of fat and put on 20lb of muscle (a massive amount), we'd be talking no more than 120 calories extra and quite possibly a lot less.
I would suggest mentioning this was a red herring and confusing.
Then you talk about sugar. Can make a bit of a difference to some, but she says she's working out a lot, so I expect this would apply:
http://www.simplyshredded.com/the-science-of-nutrition-is-a-carb-a-carb.html

For your body composition, it doesn’t matter if a carb is classified as simple or complex or if it has a high or low glycemic or insulin load or index. Only the total amount of carbs in your diet matters and this only matters because carbs contain calories.
For your health, the source of carbs is only relevant if you’re unhealthy. If you’re already healthy, it generally doesn’t matter.

(It cites numerous studies by the way.)

You also mention 'healthy foods' - a particular bug bear of mine.
Personally, I don't see how any one food (perhaps about from something strongly poisonous) can be 'unhealthy' or 'healthy'.
All foods can be consumed as 'part of a healthy lifestyle' in appropriate moderation and not have negative affects.

So, from my point of view, your first post should certainly be taken with a big dollop of "thy who is without sin..."
This is one reason I generally do do my own research, often reading the studies cited (or not) when trying to improve knowledge.

No; I do not post this to 'make you feel small' - if anything, I'm strongly agreeing with the point in your first post, which amuses me .

Alright guys, good work today. I'll meet you back at the secret bully group in an hour for milk and graham crackers.

make it pop tarts and ice cream and I'm in like a dirty shirt

wait. "In like a dirty shirt"? What does this mean?

I have to admit, I'd rather have cookies and ice cream.


#rebel food

Come sit by me. My shirt is clean and I have both cookies and ice cream.

(also my hair is clean too and smells nice. Irrelevant but I'm throwing that out there anyway)

You know, I think I'd rather have milk and graham crackers. I'm kind of cookied out right now.


But, I am definitely not cuddling ILiftHeavyAcrylics'ed out right now. I don't even think that's possible.

In for cuddles with Otter and Amber!!

Yay!

I'm kind of cookied out too at the moment but I'll use whatever bait I have to if it gets CMR over here.

Thanks. *sniff* I was feeling sad when Otter and Lishie left me out.








Can I haz White Chocolate Snickerdoodles?

Even cheese Danish ...

mccindy, how about a link to this alledged "Attack"...usually it is someone (you) being too sensitive.

My guess? It's here: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1156847-i-m-really-frustrated-with-how-to-eat-to-lose-fat

Specifically, where she speaks about lengthening muscles and such.

:laugh:

Oh dear god. First yoga and now pilates can "lengthen" your muscles...Bwahahaha. Who knew genetics could so easily be overridden????

mccindy, how about a link to this alledged "Attack"...usually it is someone (you) being too sensitive.

My guess? It's here: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1156847-i-m-really-frustrated-with-how-to-eat-to-lose-fat

Specifically, where she speaks about lengthening muscles and such.

Nope.

It's this:

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1157181-help-new-and-need-some-suggestions


A low carb debate.

Oh my jesus.
" When protein and carbohydrates are eaten together, the carbs are stored as fat. "

^And...just...:laugh:

Alright guys, good work today. I'll meet you back at the secret bully group in an hour for milk and graham crackers.

make it pop tarts and ice cream and I'm in like a dirty shirt

wait. "In like a dirty shirt"? What does this mean?

I have to admit, I'd rather have cookies and ice cream.


#rebel food

Come sit by me. My shirt is clean and I have both cookies and ice cream.

(also my hair is clean too and smells nice. Irrelevant but I'm throwing that out there anyway)

You know, I think I'd rather have milk and graham crackers. I'm kind of cookied out right now.


But, I am definitely not cuddling ILiftHeavyAcrylics'ed out right now. I don't even think that's possible.

In for cuddles with Otter and Amber!!

Yay!

I'm kind of cookied out too at the moment but I'll use whatever bait I have to if it gets CMR over here.

Thanks. *sniff* I was feeling sad when Otter and Lishie left me out.








Can I haz White Chocolate Snickerdoodles?

Even cheese Danish ...

I didnt mean to leave you out!!
I didnt know you wanted cuddles!!
Sorry sweetie!
*hugs*

At this point I find myself wondering why any of you are even on this website. Obviously it's not to support or help anyone; it's just to find ways to pick people apart and make them feel small, even if they are just trying to express themselves. It's a sad first world we live in when the Internet gives us the means to reach out anonymously and hurt other people without discretion.

um, have you BEEN on the internet before? hello? :huh:


Also, isnt' if "I'm off like a dirty shirt?" :laugh:

there are COOKIES in this thread?

I hope you are happy. I had to go to the store and get graham crackers. But I eat them with peanut butter so the protien cancels out the carbs and makes it calorie free. The milk acts as a buffer.

I'm not sure as to what but "acts like a buffer" always sounds all scientifical.

SABOTAGE!

Just a quick rant here. There seem to be quite a few people who peruse the forums simply looking for someone to argue with. It's not a very intelligent decision if you attack someone who actually knows what they are talking about, because if you would just listen and learn, you might find ways to be healthier. The internet is full of trash blogs and studies that are completely inaccurate. In order to find the best information, you need to stick to medical websites, or talk to those who are experts in the field, or have a lot of training and education.
I myself work in the medical field and have for many years. I've studied diet and fitness as well, independently of my job, for college courses and for my own benefit. Just because someone tells you something in a forum, please don't assume they know what they are talking about. Please take the time to ask them what their expertise is in the area about which you are receiving information and advice.

stop assuming that you are the only one that knows what they are talking about just because you work in the medical field. a lot of individuals have outdated knowledge

Word.

I work in the medical field and I didn't/don't know anything diet and fitness related. I can deliver a baby like nobody's business, though.

What's your fastest time? :bigsmile:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzPnnDDCIjo Nuff said.:laugh: