Tattoo acceptance in the work place?
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Don't be silly. Race is protected. If you wish to have tattoos fine but take into account that not everyone like your choice in body art. the same way not everyone wont like your choice in clothes. In a lot of jobs you wear a uniform to portray an image covering up body art may also be part of that image. I find it rather pathetic that people want to compare themselves with the fight for racial equality because they are asked to cover up some tattoos.I think some places discriminate.
It's their company, they can call the shots. You may call it discrimnation. I call it the right to hire who they want and your right to work there if you so choose.
So according to this, a company can decide to not hire African Americans and that's not discrimnation?
Not saying tattoos are equal to race equality. Tattoos are a choice that you have to live with. Race is not something you have any choice in. But there is only one word to adequately describe not hiring people with tattoos because you don't like tattoos and that word is discrimination.
What happens when those tattoos are related to race, religion and culture? For example, maori face tattoos. At that point discriminating against the ink is also racial discrimination.
I don't know of any religion, race or culture of whose members are likely to be interviewing at my estate agency in Surrey, just outside of London, where visible (with business dress) tattoos are forced upon them, or compulsory in some way.. Unless you would like to enlighten me.....0 -
Tattoo's IMO look dirty and a complete turn off.
I was in a fish and chips place where the cooks serve you and this guy had some gross tattoo on the top of his hand. Needless to say, I haven't gone back there.
If you are working with the public - cover them up not everyone shares your views thinking they are art or attractive.
I was in a store and a lady that worked there told me and my husband that we were going to go to hell because of our tattoos. We informed the manager that we would not be making our purchase and why. She was fired.
Not everyone shares your views thinking they are unattractive. My church has no problems with my tattoos.0 -
If someone applies for work and I see a tattoo or earring they don't get hired, period. My company and my rules. If you have tats located where normal dress has them covered thats fine.
You won't hire someone if they have their ears pierced?0 -
Uh...no. Race is protected class. Body art is not.I think some places discriminate.
It's their company, they can call the shots. You may call it discrimnation. I call it the right to hire who they want and your right to work there if you so choose.
So according to this, a company can decide to not hire African Americans and that's not discrimnation?
It's still discrimination. To not hire or not promote someone based only on looks is discrimination. It may not be something you could sue someone over but you are discriminating when you say Those with tattoos need not apply.
Let's say someone has a huge tattoo of a fire breathing dragon on their face. Is it discrimination to not hire that person to be the receptionist at your office building over hiring a clean cut, no dragon face tattoo person? Not at all, it's a business decision and a smart one at that. Your argument for this is horrible.0 -
I am a tax accountant, so my rule has been that my tats can't show in business attire. Therefore, I've never been discriminated against.
I grew up in a time and place where there were *a lot* of people who couldn't find jobs. I have a personal phobia about not being able to find a job, so I like to keep all of my options open, and if having a pretty little flower on my ankle might potentially limit my ability to earn a living, that's never going to be worth it to me.
However, I have a ribbon of ink from my left shoulder to my right thigh (and wrapping around the front, too). I've occasionally had someone notice it if I wear a very thin shirt or a tank top because it does peek out at the neck. Since everyone knows that I ride a Harley and I've been at my company, doing good work, for 13 years, no one cares too much here.
I couldn't care less what anyone else does and I would never let tattoos or any other body mods influence how I treat someone. But I also know that there are people out there who care a lot about it, and someday one of them might be the one interviewing me. :shrugs: So I play by the rules.0 -
I work in corporate Human Resources, and have two tattoos (only one visible on my calf when I wear dresses).
After my first week there I determined it was fine to expose my tattoo. The first day I did so one of my bosses grabbed my leg to read it better.
And as to tattoos being a protected class: definitely not.
You work in HR and your boss grabbed your leg?0 -
What happens when those tattoos are related to race, religion and culture? For example, maori face tattoos. At that point discriminating against the ink is also racial discrimination.
Same with hair... a lot of places won't hire hippies - that's a fact of life but some people grow it for religious purposes.
As long as you can think of a reason to not hire them you're okay (didn't like answers in interview is perfectly okay).
I know a lot of businesses won't hire muslims because of all the time they require to pray and other special considerations.
Some places hire 'models' for positions so they can hire just good looking people.
You have to do everything you can before hiring someone to weed people out. Once you pass the 3 month mark you need a reason to fire someone (the law here).0 -
Most retail places allow tattoos and piercings without exception.
Uh no they don't (I spent 27 years in retail and my wife is still in it) In fact the more conservative the retailer the less likely they are to be accepting. It's better than it was when i was young (and not allowed to wear the 5 earings i had even 1 could only be a small stud)
I'm now in Hospitality. Back of house it's not a big deal, but front of house its no visible tats and only simple conservative jewelry (men or women ) In fact it is only in the last 6 months you could have a neatly trimmed beard here (I work at a high end hotel and across the board all our competitors and the next level down in our chain and competitors chains would have similar rules
In fact with a lot of companies no matter what they say if you show up with a lot of piercings or visible tattoos you just went to he bottom of the hire pool before the interview even started
I wish I could say it was different but it's not really. bear in mind senior management in all companies tend to be older conservative white males and direction comes from there (as well as promotion opportunities)0 -
I love tattoos! I have 5 of my own - and plan on getting several more. I am 47 and work for a major financial institution in the US. One of mine "peeks out" depending on the cut of my neckline. Three of mine are completely visible in the summer when I wear capris. One is never visible. I have never had anyone say anything and I have seen other employees with a lot bigger and more visible tattoos than I have.
It might be different if I was in a position where I saw the public - I am in the IT department and my "customers" are employees all across the country.
My 20 year old daughter has three tattoos of various shapes and sizes (and plans on more). I have tried to persaude her to not get any that are too visible (like on her hands) for fear it interferes with her getting a job when she is out of college. She worked at a junior's clothing store last summer and all tattoos had to be covered.0 -
I have three tattoos, and want quite a few more.
I'm very fortunate that I work in the video gaming industry, and pretty much anything goes. I often have pink/purple/blue in my hair and it's not a problem either.
I think the only tattoos that would be a problem would in the racist nature, like a swastika or something similar.
For those of you who have office jobs that allow you to have tattoos, that's awesome!
Wait, what? Where? AFAIK, there aren't any devs in Reno/Sparks...0 -
Tattoo's IMO look dirty and a complete turn off.
I was in a fish and chips place where the cooks serve you and this guy had some gross tattoo on the top of his hand. Needless to say, I haven't gone back there.
If you are working with the public - cover them up not everyone shares your views thinking they are art or attractive.
You must get to spend a lot of time indoors and alone based on your logic.0 -
Don't be silly. Race is protected. If you wish to have tattoos fine but take into account that not everyone like your choice in body art. the same way not everyone wont like your choice in clothes. In a lot of jobs you wear a uniform to portray an image covering up body art may also be part of that image. I find it rather pathetic that people want to compare themselves with the fight for racial equality because they are asked to cover up some tattoos.I think some places discriminate.
It's their company, they can call the shots. You may call it discrimnation. I call it the right to hire who they want and your right to work there if you so choose.
So according to this, a company can decide to not hire African Americans and that's not discrimnation?
Not saying tattoos are equal to race equality. Tattoos are a choice that you have to live with. Race is not something you have any choice in. But there is only one word to adequately describe not hiring people with tattoos because you don't like tattoos and that word is discrimination.
Has nothing to do with "not liking tattoos", the person doing the hiring could love tattoos but if the ones you have could have a negative impact on the business you should not be hired there.0 -
Im in the Air Force and I have 4 of them....only one that shows is my wrist
I work at Special Ops HQ in Tampa....and we have a lot of civilians decked out with full sleeves and half sleeves....im kind of jealous cause I want a half sleeve so bad....but undecided on what i want0 -
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No it's not...
I would not hire someone with visible tattoos/tattoos that couldn't be covered up...not based on the tattoos themselves or the way someone looked...but because visible tattoos would be completely and utterly inappropriate in my field and having to deal with multi-million and billion dollar clients who expect professionalism, suits and ties, etc. It is a professional business setting.
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I can still wear a suit and tie despite the fact I have a tattoo. When they are fresh they can be kind of sensitive so some clothing that might be irritating. but other than that, they've literally NEVER gotten in the way of me being able to wear professional clothing.
The fact is, you can just and discriminate whomever you choose when it's your company. but it's really YOU that is getting the biggest disservice because YOU are being limited in the talent that could be a part of your organization.0 -
I wouldn't work for you anyway.I wouldn't hire a tattooed person for my company, I feel it sends the wrong image.
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I think some places discriminate.
It's their company, they can call the shots. You may call it discrimnation. I call it the right to hire who they want and your right to work there if you so choose.
I agree with this. I also have tattoos, but they are in places that are covered. I work in a hospital and if you have a tattoo that shows you have to cover it. It's the rules not discrimination.0 -
I think a lot of people are getting hung up on the word discrimination. You can discriminate against people for having ink, hell as far as I know you can discriminate against people for being fat. It's not against the law to discriminate against some things, only certain areas are protected under the law.0
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Tattoo's IMO look dirty and a complete turn off.
I was in a fish and chips place where the cooks serve you and this guy had some gross tattoo on the top of his hand. Needless to say, I haven't gone back there.
If you are working with the public - cover them up not everyone shares your views thinking they are art or attractive.
You must get to spend a lot of time indoors and alone based on your logic.
Because I don't share your view? How little of you....0 -
No it's not...
I would not hire someone with visible tattoos/tattoos that couldn't be covered up...not based on the tattoos themselves or the way someone looked...but because visible tattoos would be completely and utterly inappropriate in my field and having to deal with multi-million and billion dollar clients who expect professionalism, suits and ties, etc. It is a professional business setting.
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I can still wear a suit and tie despite the fact I have a tattoo. When they are fresh they can be kind of sensitive so some clothing that might be irritating. but other than that, they've literally NEVER gotten in the way of me being able to wear professional clothing.
The fact is, you can just and discriminate whomever you choose when it's your company. but it's really YOU that is getting the biggest disservice because YOU are being limited in the talent that could be a part of your organization.
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I don't know where you live, but here in the UK, there is a problem with unemployment. There are multiple people for every vacancy, and people desperate to work. I have no problem with anyone that has tattoos anywhere on them, I think it's great, express yourself how you want. But if you interview with me and you have a tattoo on your neck, that cannot be covered, you will not get the job. And I am confident that I am not 'limiting the talent' there are plenty of people with enough common sense to get their tattoos in sensible places if they want to work with the public!
It's common sense, no matter how old fashioned or out of touch YOU might think it is.....they (and I, as an employer) couldn't care less what you think!!0 -
When I applied for my job, I had my hair down during the interview. They loved me! everything was perfect. I was basically hired.
They handed me their uniform policy booklet so I would know what to wear when I had my first day and it stated that no employees could have visible tattoos. My tattoo is on my neck and during daily life when my hair is down you would never know that it exists. However since I work in a restaurant setting my hair is always tied up. I had to meet with the GM, the head of HR, have them contact head office and ask for an exception all because of an image of a shooting star.
The frustrating thing is that I could tell that they themselves didn't believe in the policy them selves. It was a rule that someone made sitting at head office somewhere, that doesn't understand just how much of the hiring pool they could really be eliminating.
In past jobs, my tattoos have been a conversation piece and a way to connect with guests in the restaurant if THEY chose to bring it up. And never has anyone ever been offended by a shooting star.
You're not getting it. Has nothing to do with where someone is sitting that makes the rules, or the people working at the branch. It has to do with that company's rules and the image they want to portray.
There are tons of waiter jobs out there and lots don't care about tats. I suggest you find one of those.0 -
but it's not little of you to unilaterally say all tatoos are dirty? I keep mine covered at work but will let them show in public. both of them have a lot of meaning to me, and I thought long and hard before getting either of them. It's pretty insulting to hear someone call them "dirty".Tattoo's IMO look dirty and a complete turn off.
I was in a fish and chips place where the cooks serve you and this guy had some gross tattoo on the top of his hand. Needless to say, I haven't gone back there.
If you are working with the public - cover them up not everyone shares your views thinking they are art or attractive.
You must get to spend a lot of time indoors and alone based on your logic.
Because I don't share your view? How little of you....0 -
Don't be silly. Race is protected. If you wish to have tattoos fine but take into account that not everyone like your choice in body art. the same way not everyone wont like your choice in clothes. In a lot of jobs you wear a uniform to portray an image covering up body art may also be part of that image. I find it rather pathetic that people want to compare themselves with the fight for racial equality because they are asked to cover up some tattoos.I think some places discriminate.
It's their company, they can call the shots. You may call it discrimnation. I call it the right to hire who they want and your right to work there if you so choose.
So according to this, a company can decide to not hire African Americans and that's not discrimnation?
Not saying tattoos are equal to race equality. Tattoos are a choice that you have to live with. Race is not something you have any choice in. But there is only one word to adequately describe not hiring people with tattoos because you don't like tattoos and that word is discrimination.
What happens when those tattoos are related to race, religion and culture? For example, maori face tattoos. At that point discriminating against the ink is also racial discrimination.
In the hiring process people are eliminated for ;loads of reasons and i can guarantee a facial tattoo will be the kiss of death at virtually every mainstream job, maori or not. There are just a set of professional business standards you have to live with sometimes (it cost me a few jobs as a youth - then i just lived with the fact that if I wanted a certain jobs I'd have to live with not wearing my earrings at work (No tats mainly because I have never really found one I want, though I do like well done ones. and I'd have to tone down the hair (So no showing up with a huge purple black quiff like I had for a while for instance)0 -
I'm a designer. Our field would be barren if we banned outlandish appearances.0
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I think a lot of people are getting hung up on the word discrimination. You can discriminate against people for having ink, hell as far as I know you can discriminate against people for being fat. It's not against the law to discriminate against some things, only certain areas are protected under the law.
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What I have been attempting to say but not finding the right way to do it.0 -
but it's not little of you to unilaterally say all tatoos are dirty? I keep mine covered at work but will let them show in public. both of them have a lot of meaning to me, and I thought long and hard before getting either of them. It's pretty insulting to hear someone call them "dirty".Tattoo's IMO look dirty and a complete turn off.
I was in a fish and chips place where the cooks serve you and this guy had some gross tattoo on the top of his hand. Needless to say, I haven't gone back there.
If you are working with the public - cover them up not everyone shares your views thinking they are art or attractive.
You must get to spend a lot of time indoors and alone based on your logic.
Because I don't share your view? How little of you....
Sigh... there's a difference between insulting someone and saying something looks dirty.
One is an option on an object and one is an attack at a person.
Sorry about your life choices. Not everyone appreciates your free spirit decisions. (see, that was an insult)0 -
I am a fan of ink, working on 2 half sleeves myself. However, in my career, having a visible tattoo could occasionally present an issue, whether I like it or not. For that reason, I choose not to get a tattoo in a location that cannot be hidden under my suit.0
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Tattoo's IMO look dirty and a complete turn off.
I was in a fish and chips place where the cooks serve you and this guy had some gross tattoo on the top of his hand. Needless to say, I haven't gone back there.
If you are working with the public - cover them up not everyone shares your views thinking they are art or attractive.
You must get to spend a lot of time indoors and alone based on your logic.
Because I don't share your view? How little of you....
You essentially called me dirty. If that doesn't scream little, I don't know what does.
If you're going to stay out of every establishment for fear of someone having a tattoo, well, you're going to spend a lot of time at home with your hands in your pants.0 -
but it's not little of you to unilaterally say all tatoos are dirty? I keep mine covered at work but will let them show in public. both of them have a lot of meaning to me, and I thought long and hard before getting either of them. It's pretty insulting to hear someone call them "dirty".Tattoo's IMO look dirty and a complete turn off.
I was in a fish and chips place where the cooks serve you and this guy had some gross tattoo on the top of his hand. Needless to say, I haven't gone back there.
If you are working with the public - cover them up not everyone shares your views thinking they are art or attractive.
You must get to spend a lot of time indoors and alone based on your logic.
Because I don't share your view? How little of you....
He didn't say all tattoos are dirty, he said "Tattoos IN MY OPINION look dirty" in which he is entitled to.0 -
I am a fan of ink, working on 2 half sleeves myself. However, in my career, having a visible tattoo could occasionally present an issue, whether I like it or not. For that reason, I choose not to get a tattoo in a location that cannot be hidden under my suit.
Common sense. That's all it takes!0 -
THIS IS ACTUALLY HILARIOUS!!!
You must never eat in restaurants???
I can honestly say at least 75% of chefs have tattoos. So even if you can't' SEE them.... they're THERE!!
That includes fine dining. Comfort food. Ethnic. Everything!
Are you going to check the back of every place you go to?Tattoo's IMO look dirty and a complete turn off.
I was in a fish and chips place where the cooks serve you and this guy had some gross tattoo on the top of his hand. Needless to say, I haven't gone back there.
If you are working with the public - cover them up not everyone shares your views thinking they are art or attractive.
You must get to spend a lot of time indoors and alone based on your logic.
Because I don't share your view? How little of you....0
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