This is why people can't eat all of their calories...
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I have read your post three times and with all due respect, I have no idea what you are talking about, except that I understand that you cut out soft drinks, sweet tea and eat beans from a can and put yogurt on your potato. Those are all things to congratulate you for. Does the rest of what you said apply to all of us ? I don't think so.....
I don't think you understand the art of an example.
Possibly, but what example would that be ?
You are not alone. I can't figure out the meaning or purpose of the OP either. That being said, my average daily calorie intake for the last 7 days was 1935cals/day. Not difficult at all. Oh, yeah, and I lost a lb in the process.
What can't you understand? It's in English, there are few(if any) grammatical errors. You might disagree, and you might be trying to tell everyone you disagree by being an *kitten* hat about it, but if you just don't understand what I'm trying to communicate then I think there's a deeper problem, and it's not on my end.
That being said, Yes, anyone can eat and add it all up and then say "oh no im 400 calories short" and go buy a milkshake. That's not okay. Planning for exactly 2000 is difficult for all of the reasons I have already said.
Actually, that is 100% OK. Why wouldn't it be? As long as you have hit all your macros, you don't get any points for eating 400 more calories of chicken and canned veggies.0 -
Same here. I eat mostly ad libitum during the day and then at the end of the day if I have more calories left I eat something. (I have never ever pre-planned beyond the meal I'm preparing to eat.)
I don't eat in a vacuum.......I don't look up from the computer after logging and realize " OMG I only ate 689 calories, how did that come about " ?. It also does not happen that I realize " oh, I ate 3415 calories without realizing how that happened ". Why,? because I plan my food, I know now that a person of my height and age cannot consistently eat more than 1200 calories if they want to lose some weight. And I plan accordingly. Not down to last last calories, but within a 100 or so and that includes for example half a pound of strawberries with cream & sugar. I follow some people who are really successful and who I admire for all they have done to shed weight and become healthy and fit.....and they all plan before hand. No one eats " just because there are calories left " and I agree with you....it's not a good idea.
I am no one special, possess no special powers and am of average intelligence......and I manage. So what is so difficult for others? That's what I don't understand and the fact that " This is why people can't eat all of their calories " is a blanket statement that does not apply to many if not most people... And I realized right away that the post was in English and understand that part just fine, even though English is my fourth language.......jejeje.
While I agree with some of what you said, the bolded part I disagree with. People who have specific fitness goals find that their performance suffers if they are not eating ALL of their calories. These people do eat more when they have calories left.
This happens a lot when I am bulking. Because I get used to eating about 2400 calories a day and suddenly change my goal to add an extra 1000-1500 per day.
I agree with you. I thought since I was talking about " shedding weight " that that would exclude those who have to eat more because they are bulking. I realize now that the next time I have to be much more accurate to include all of the different groups of people who eat for whatever reasons and that of course includes those people who all of a sudden need to increase their calories from 2400 to 3400-3900. I was only thinking of those trying to " shed weight ", which was relevant to what I wanted to say.....my mistake.....:o).
But ...somehow I think that people who want to lose weight ( and not those who are bulking ) need to plan a bit more....or a lot more, because a calorie deficit by definition is limiting....much more than eating anywhere from 3000-4000 calories.
I wasn't talking about bulking. I'm talking about people who are eating at a calorie deficit to lose weight and/or fat, and yet still want to meet their performance goals, and thus need to eat all of their calories so they can perform well. Not gaining weight or muscle, just ability to continue to progress in their fitness program.0 -
Hmm. After reading 6 pages, my takeaway from this thread is such:
If someone has a problem, and offers a lengthy explanation of said problem, including detailed examples ... the best thing to do is smugly explain to him why he's wrong and how much better we are at eating than he is, and then routinely make comments about him not making any sense.
Dear OP,
You're not alone. Some people are *great* at this. Others have trouble eating all their calories, and others have difficulties balancing their caloric intake against their macros. Same days are more difficult than others no matter how much you plan. For some people, no days are difficult and because those people exist, people like you and I (and the very few other folks that seemed to understand where you're coming from) are 100% fundamentally wrong--according to them.
At the risk of coming off like a total **** ... the level of superiority in this thread is overwhelming.
The guy had a legit concern and tried to explain it. Can we not act like he's some kind of moron and we're all saints of great health?
Why is it so difficult? explain that...because to be frank I just don't get it...
I sit down in the evening and look ahead at my week and think about what is in my fridge/cupboard/freezer and plan out my days...
I need 1700 calories a day, 120g of protien...those are my top goals...I work around them...
I buy groceries based on those goals and yes I too budget for food...and have 2 grown men in my house who are not "watching" their calories and I have stuff all over my house that is not "diet" or "healthy"...
so explain to those of us that do it everyday with the same issues the OP has why is it so difficult?0 -
Hey, OP, I remember you!
Guys, I just have to point out that the OP is the author of the "Hypothetical" Thread about starving yourself on I think it was 700 calories and then once goal weight is achieved adding 100 calories a week. He wanted to know if that would cause weight gain or if "this hypothetical person" would still maintain.
So, when you're trying to argue with him about it being okay to eat calorically dense food, keep that in mind.
Whew, thanks for that reality check! Done hitting my head on THIS particular brick wall and taking my good sense where it will be recognized as such.0 -
This is why everyone is always wondering why they can't eat the amount of calories they are supposed to. It's easy to eat 1000 calories in a day, its easy to eat 3000 calories in a day. It is not east to eat 2000 calories in a day.
I find it easy to eat 2000 calories in a day. About 1750 in breakfast lunch and dinner, with a bowl of ice cream on top.
Id be interested in seeing your diary. Some days I have trouble eating enough without eating something bad for me.
"Eating something bad for you" isn't real (within moderation. Everyone knows drinking bleach is bad for you). Whats bad for you is treating a diet as just that: a diet. Its not a diet. Its a choice to make HEALTHY decisions about what and when you eat. Feel like a donut? Great, have one, but maintain a balance and dont eat a dozen. Eat within your macros and calorie limits 90% of the time and you'll lose weight.
Losing weight is easy. Losing weight while maintaining muscle is a little harder.0 -
Same here. I eat mostly ad libitum during the day and then at the end of the day if I have more calories left I eat something. (I have never ever pre-planned beyond the meal I'm preparing to eat.)
I don't eat in a vacuum.......I don't look up from the computer after logging and realize " OMG I only ate 689 calories, how did that come about " ?. It also does not happen that I realize " oh, I ate 3415 calories without realizing how that happened ". Why,? because I plan my food, I know now that a person of my height and age cannot consistently eat more than 1200 calories if they want to lose some weight. And I plan accordingly. Not down to last last calories, but within a 100 or so and that includes for example half a pound of strawberries with cream & sugar. I follow some people who are really successful and who I admire for all they have done to shed weight and become healthy and fit.....and they all plan before hand. No one eats " just because there are calories left " and I agree with you....it's not a good idea.
I am no one special, possess no special powers and am of average intelligence......and I manage. So what is so difficult for others? That's what I don't understand and the fact that " This is why people can't eat all of their calories " is a blanket statement that does not apply to many if not most people... And I realized right away that the post was in English and understand that part just fine, even though English is my fourth language.......jejeje.
While I agree with some of what you said, the bolded part I disagree with. People who have specific fitness goals find that their performance suffers if they are not eating ALL of their calories. These people do eat more when they have calories left.
This happens a lot when I am bulking. Because I get used to eating about 2400 calories a day and suddenly change my goal to add an extra 1000-1500 per day.
I agree with you. I thought since I was talking about " shedding weight " that that would exclude those who have to eat more because they are bulking. I realize now that the next time I have to be much more accurate to include all of the different groups of people who eat for whatever reasons and that of course includes those people who all of a sudden need to increase their calories from 2400 to 3400-3900. I was only thinking of those trying to " shed weight ", which was relevant to what I wanted to say.....my mistake.....:o).
But ...somehow I think that people who want to lose weight ( and not those who are bulking ) need to plan a bit more....or a lot more, because a calorie deficit by definition is limiting....much more than eating anywhere from 3000-4000 calories.
I wasn't talking about bulking. I'm talking about people who are eating at a calorie deficit to lose weight and/or fat, and yet still want to meet their performance goals, and thus need to eat all of their calories so they can perform well. Not gaining weight or muscle, just ability to continue to progress in their fitness program.
I agree that those in a deficet need to eat all their calories...I missed once and got just 1200 it was awful...I never thought for one minute that one day at that level would cause such issues...it did...weak, lethargic and my workouts suffered for 2 days...By Wednesday I was back to normal but wow that was a lesson.0 -
I'm not sure if I totally understand the post, but I easily get to 2000 calories eating "whole foods" - nothing "processed" besides maybe 5-9 corn tortilla chips. My diary is open, so feel free to check it out!
I find it really easy to eat chicken breast and veggies every night; hard boiled egg and tomato every morning. That's actually how I love to eat and how I feel my best, but I can go waaaaay up and above 2000 calories easily on that healthy diet.
I find it really difficult to stay between 1400-1800 calories each day. I get way starving and grouchy below 1400 calories, and above 1800 I won't lose, but it would be super easy to go over.
I think that's how I got this way in the first place, I just had no idea how much food I was actually eating - even though I was eating healthy I was having 500 calorie meals like 4 times a day and then a bowl of popcorn at night!
What has helped me is an app on my phone called "Life Reminders" and I set breakfast at 9am, first lunch at 12 noon, second lunch at 3pm and dinner at 8pm. Each with calorie limits.
I don't always hit those times exactly, but when I go by those times and calorie limits I feel satisfied thru the day with plenty of energy and I don't go over my calories either!0 -
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This word you keep saying. I do not think it means what you think it means.
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And THIS is why I want to be your friend!
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Same here. I eat mostly ad libitum during the day and then at the end of the day if I have more calories left I eat something. (I have never ever pre-planned beyond the meal I'm preparing to eat.)
I don't eat in a vacuum.......I don't look up from the computer after logging and realize " OMG I only ate 689 calories, how did that come about " ?. It also does not happen that I realize " oh, I ate 3415 calories without realizing how that happened ". Why,? because I plan my food, I know now that a person of my height and age cannot consistently eat more than 1200 calories if they want to lose some weight. And I plan accordingly. Not down to last last calories, but within a 100 or so and that includes for example half a pound of strawberries with cream & sugar. I follow some people who are really successful and who I admire for all they have done to shed weight and become healthy and fit.....and they all plan before hand. No one eats " just because there are calories left " and I agree with you....it's not a good idea.
I am no one special, possess no special powers and am of average intelligence......and I manage. So what is so difficult for others? That's what I don't understand and the fact that " This is why people can't eat all of their calories " is a blanket statement that does not apply to many if not most people... And I realized right away that the post was in English and understand that part just fine, even though English is my fourth language.......jejeje.
While I agree with some of what you said, the bolded part I disagree with. People who have specific fitness goals find that their performance suffers if they are not eating ALL of their calories. These people do eat more when they have calories left.
This happens a lot when I am bulking. Because I get used to eating about 2400 calories a day and suddenly change my goal to add an extra 1000-1500 per day.
I agree with you. I thought since I was talking about " shedding weight " that that would exclude those who have to eat more because they are bulking. I realize now that the next time I have to be much more accurate to include all of the different groups of people who eat for whatever reasons and that of course includes those people who all of a sudden need to increase their calories from 2400 to 3400-3900. I was only thinking of those trying to " shed weight ", which was relevant to what I wanted to say.....my mistake.....:o).
But ...somehow I think that people who want to lose weight ( and not those who are bulking ) need to plan a bit more....or a lot more, because a calorie deficit by definition is limiting....much more than eating anywhere from 3000-4000 calories.
I wasn't talking about bulking. I'm talking about people who are eating at a calorie deficit to lose weight and/or fat, and yet still want to meet their performance goals, and thus need to eat all of their calories so they can perform well. Not gaining weight or muscle, just ability to continue to progress in their fitness program.
Because of this sentence " This happens a lot when I am bulking. Because I get used to eating about 2400 calories a day and suddenly change my goal to add an extra 1000-1500 per day. " I figured you were talking about bulking and yourself and not people in general..
As mentioned before; I am old and very short and eat 1200 calories to lose .5 pounds a week and need to plan, because I have no calories to waste, neither on satietywithout nutrition, nor on foods that don't meet my macros and feel that a lot of people who want to eat for weight loss as well as health & fitness and who eat calories under 2000 a day need to make a similar effort .0 -
it is NOT okay to go out at 8 or 9 oclock at night and buy yourself a milkshake full of sugars, or even worse, synthetic sugars and then go to bed a couple of hours later. If you think that's okay, Im not sure what to tell you.
I regularly eat at 10:00 at night, and that is usually when I have my treat for the day, because that is when I know I have my calories. It's simply the way our schedules work.
For the record, I'm down 43 pounds from my starting weight, 23 down since January, and have lost 1.5-2 lbs per week for each of the last three weeks, since figuring out my actual TDEE and adjusting my caloric intake on the basis of my actual TDEE on a daily basis.
So, you know, you aren't totally right there, my friend. Would a healthier diet perhaps exclude some of the sugar I eat? Probably. But this is by far the longest I have ever maintained a 'diet' and it's by far the most weight I've ever lost and I know I can continue to do this for months and years to come. So, you know, from my perspective it is about what works for you physically and mentally. I know I will tighten up my eating at some point and make more nutritionally sound choices than I make right now because the stress I'm under compels me to eat all the bad things now and just sticking within a calorie budget is difficult enough at the moment.0 -
I'm wondering which fast food joint is serving beer; the Wendy's around here has yet to install a kegerator.Fast Food makes it easy to go over normal calories you should have! The extra sodas, beers, and sugars are no good.
Beer is no good???
OMG what a thing to say, there is no need to insult beer.
Starbucks is starting to sell wine and beer in the evenings >>
What about milkshakes at 8-9pm?
What if they are boozy milkshakes? What then?
add in the irish cream and you have a winner...
AND BEER!!!
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What about milkshakes at 8-9pm?
Better be careful with those milkshakes. I've heard they bring all the boys to the yard.0 -
Same here. I eat mostly ad libitum during the day and then at the end of the day if I have more calories left I eat something. (I have never ever pre-planned beyond the meal I'm preparing to eat.)
I don't eat in a vacuum.......I don't look up from the computer after logging and realize " OMG I only ate 689 calories, how did that come about " ?. It also does not happen that I realize " oh, I ate 3415 calories without realizing how that happened ". Why,? because I plan my food, I know now that a person of my height and age cannot consistently eat more than 1200 calories if they want to lose some weight. And I plan accordingly. Not down to last last calories, but within a 100 or so and that includes for example half a pound of strawberries with cream & sugar. I follow some people who are really successful and who I admire for all they have done to shed weight and become healthy and fit.....and they all plan before hand. No one eats " just because there are calories left " and I agree with you....it's not a good idea.
I am no one special, possess no special powers and am of average intelligence......and I manage. So what is so difficult for others? That's what I don't understand and the fact that " This is why people can't eat all of their calories " is a blanket statement that does not apply to many if not most people... And I realized right away that the post was in English and understand that part just fine, even though English is my fourth language.......jejeje.
While I agree with some of what you said, the bolded part I disagree with. People who have specific fitness goals find that their performance suffers if they are not eating ALL of their calories. These people do eat more when they have calories left.
This happens a lot when I am bulking. Because I get used to eating about 2400 calories a day and suddenly change my goal to add an extra 1000-1500 per day.
I agree with you. I thought since I was talking about " shedding weight " that that would exclude those who have to eat more because they are bulking. I realize now that the next time I have to be much more accurate to include all of the different groups of people who eat for whatever reasons and that of course includes those people who all of a sudden need to increase their calories from 2400 to 3400-3900. I was only thinking of those trying to " shed weight ", which was relevant to what I wanted to say.....my mistake.....:o).
But ...somehow I think that people who want to lose weight ( and not those who are bulking ) need to plan a bit more....or a lot more, because a calorie deficit by definition is limiting....much more than eating anywhere from 3000-4000 calories.
I wasn't talking about bulking. I'm talking about people who are eating at a calorie deficit to lose weight and/or fat, and yet still want to meet their performance goals, and thus need to eat all of their calories so they can perform well. Not gaining weight or muscle, just ability to continue to progress in their fitness program.
Yeah, I pretty frequently eat just because I have calories left. I have 239 calories left and I'm gonna go head an eat a granola bar (190) and maybe a square of chocolate to smooth that out. If I don't make my goals I tend to feel pretty sluggish when I go out to run/feel sore longer.0 -
Same here. I eat mostly ad libitum during the day and then at the end of the day if I have more calories left I eat something. (I have never ever pre-planned beyond the meal I'm preparing to eat.)
I don't eat in a vacuum.......I don't look up from the computer after logging and realize " OMG I only ate 689 calories, how did that come about " ?. It also does not happen that I realize " oh, I ate 3415 calories without realizing how that happened ". Why,? because I plan my food, I know now that a person of my height and age cannot consistently eat more than 1200 calories if they want to lose some weight. And I plan accordingly. Not down to last last calories, but within a 100 or so and that includes for example half a pound of strawberries with cream & sugar. I follow some people who are really successful and who I admire for all they have done to shed weight and become healthy and fit.....and they all plan before hand. No one eats " just because there are calories left " and I agree with you....it's not a good idea.
I am no one special, possess no special powers and am of average intelligence......and I manage. So what is so difficult for others? That's what I don't understand and the fact that " This is why people can't eat all of their calories " is a blanket statement that does not apply to many if not most people... And I realized right away that the post was in English and understand that part just fine, even though English is my fourth language.......jejeje.
While I agree with some of what you said, the bolded part I disagree with. People who have specific fitness goals find that their performance suffers if they are not eating ALL of their calories. These people do eat more when they have calories left.
This happens a lot when I am bulking. Because I get used to eating about 2400 calories a day and suddenly change my goal to add an extra 1000-1500 per day.
I agree with you. I thought since I was talking about " shedding weight " that that would exclude those who have to eat more because they are bulking. I realize now that the next time I have to be much more accurate to include all of the different groups of people who eat for whatever reasons and that of course includes those people who all of a sudden need to increase their calories from 2400 to 3400-3900. I was only thinking of those trying to " shed weight ", which was relevant to what I wanted to say.....my mistake.....:o).
But ...somehow I think that people who want to lose weight ( and not those who are bulking ) need to plan a bit more....or a lot more, because a calorie deficit by definition is limiting....much more than eating anywhere from 3000-4000 calories.
I wasn't talking about bulking. I'm talking about people who are eating at a calorie deficit to lose weight and/or fat, and yet still want to meet their performance goals, and thus need to eat all of their calories so they can perform well. Not gaining weight or muscle, just ability to continue to progress in their fitness program.
Because of this sentence " This happens a lot when I am bulking. Because I get used to eating about 2400 calories a day and suddenly change my goal to add an extra 1000-1500 per day. " I figured you were talking about bulking and yourself and not people in general..
As mentioned before; I am old and very short and eat 1200 calories to lose .5 pounds a week and need to plan, because I have no calories to waste, neither on satietywithout nutrition, nor on foods that don't meet my macros and feel that a lot of people who want to eat for weight loss as well as health & fitness and who eat calories under 2000 a day need to make a similar effort .
The person after me talked about bulking. I have never done a bulk, but my body needs all the foodz to do my workouts. There is a definite difference in strength if I don't eat all of my calories.0 -
Thought it was because people chose to eat high volume low calorie foods for every meal.
That is always my deal if I have a low day. Sometimes it's just because at the end of the day I crave junk so I'd rather just not eat it and go under then find myself binging and mad at myself for eating a bag of Cheetos.0 -
I have read your post three times and with all due respect, I have no idea what you are talking about, except that I understand that you cut out soft drinks, sweet tea and eat beans from a can and put yogurt on your potato. Those are all things to congratulate you for. Does the rest of what you said apply to all of us ? I don't think so.....
I don't think you understand the art of an example.
Possibly, but what example would that be ?
You are not alone. I can't figure out the meaning or purpose of the OP either. That being said, my average daily calorie intake for the last 7 days was 1935cals/day. Not difficult at all. Oh, yeah, and I lost a lb in the process.
What can't you understand? It's in English, there are few(if any) grammatical errors. You might disagree, and you might be trying to tell everyone you disagree by being an *kitten* hat about it, but if you just don't understand what I'm trying to communicate then I think there's a deeper problem, and it's not on my end.
That being said, Yes, anyone can eat and add it all up and then say "oh no im 400 calories short" and go buy a milkshake. That's not okay. Planning for exactly 2000 is difficult for all of the reasons I have already said.
Actually, that is 100% OK. Why wouldn't it be? As long as you have hit all your macros, you don't get any points for eating 400 more calories of chicken and canned veggies.
Actually if your goal is losing weight and you find yourself 400 calories below at the end of the day and not hungry you DO get extra points for not being a complete dork and drinking a full glass of liquid sugar that's just going to make you crave more sugar.0 -
You know that everything that applies to you doesn't necessarily apply to everyone else? For example, sugar does not make me crave sugar.I have read your post three times and with all due respect, I have no idea what you are talking about, except that I understand that you cut out soft drinks, sweet tea and eat beans from a can and put yogurt on your potato. Those are all things to congratulate you for. Does the rest of what you said apply to all of us ? I don't think so.....
I don't think you understand the art of an example.
Possibly, but what example would that be ?
You are not alone. I can't figure out the meaning or purpose of the OP either. That being said, my average daily calorie intake for the last 7 days was 1935cals/day. Not difficult at all. Oh, yeah, and I lost a lb in the process.
What can't you understand? It's in English, there are few(if any) grammatical errors. You might disagree, and you might be trying to tell everyone you disagree by being an *kitten* hat about it, but if you just don't understand what I'm trying to communicate then I think there's a deeper problem, and it's not on my end.
That being said, Yes, anyone can eat and add it all up and then say "oh no im 400 calories short" and go buy a milkshake. That's not okay. Planning for exactly 2000 is difficult for all of the reasons I have already said.
Actually, that is 100% OK. Why wouldn't it be? As long as you have hit all your macros, you don't get any points for eating 400 more calories of chicken and canned veggies.
Actually if your goal is losing weight and you find yourself 400 calories below at the end of the day and not hungry you DO get extra points for not being a complete dumb**** and drinking a full glass of liquid sugar that's just going to make you crave more sugar.0 -
There is no single answer for everyone. I've been at this since November 2011. On maintenance since May 2012. It's working, but it's nevery easy.This is why everyone is always wondering why they can't eat the amount of calories they are supposed to. It's easy to eat 1000 calories in a day, its easy to eat 3000 calories in a day. It is not east to eat 2000 calories in a day.
I'm glad you found out what worked for you but that doesn't mean it is the same for everyone.
I agree with this. I've started eating at my manteinance level around 3 weeks ago, and at first I had to eat very often in order to reach my daily recommended intake. I wasn't used to eat that amount of food anymore, and I wasn't used to eat often either. After a couple of weeks I find it much easier, and even if I have to keep track of what I eat, I can see it's a reasonable amount of food for the whole day. So I guess manteinance is working. When I was overweight-almost obese, I was probably just used to eat more everyday. It doesn't happen overnight, that's why manteinance should be reached gradually. It might seems stupid but sometimes you need a couple of weeks to get used to eat a few hundreds of calories more on a daily basis...0 -
For me, I've had to cut out all of the "bad" stuff (ice cream, sweets, chips, etc.) because if its in the house I will eat ALL of it instead of just a healthy portion. But I've just started and have a long way to go, hopefully once these changes aren't new anymore I can go back to a few sweets every now and then, but till then I've decided to cut it out 100%. Instead, I eat a handful of nuts for my snack or I make a smoothie with banana, almond milk, unsweetened cocoa powder (10 cal per tbs!!) and splenda - that way I get my chocolate fix plus another serving of fruit and I meet my calorie goal for the day.0
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I have read your post three times and with all due respect, I have no idea what you are talking about, except that I understand that you cut out soft drinks, sweet tea and eat beans from a can and put yogurt on your potato. Those are all things to congratulate you for. Does the rest of what you said apply to all of us ? I don't think so.....
I don't think you understand the art of an example.
Possibly, but what example would that be ?
You are not alone. I can't figure out the meaning or purpose of the OP either. That being said, my average daily calorie intake for the last 7 days was 1935cals/day. Not difficult at all. Oh, yeah, and I lost a lb in the process.
What can't you understand? It's in English, there are few(if any) grammatical errors. You might disagree, and you might be trying to tell everyone you disagree by being an *kitten* hat about it, but if you just don't understand what I'm trying to communicate then I think there's a deeper problem, and it's not on my end.
That being said, Yes, anyone can eat and add it all up and then say "oh no im 400 calories short" and go buy a milkshake. That's not okay. Planning for exactly 2000 is difficult for all of the reasons I have already said.
Actually, that is 100% OK. Why wouldn't it be? As long as you have hit all your macros, you don't get any points for eating 400 more calories of chicken and canned veggies.
Actually if your goal is losing weight and you find yourself 400 calories below at the end of the day and not hungry you DO get extra points for not being a complete dumb**** and drinking a full glass of liquid sugar that's just going to make you crave more sugar.
Actually, a big glass of milk works fine.0 -
Actually if your goal is losing weight and you find yourself 400 calories below at the end of the day and not hungry you DO get extra points for not being a complete dumb**** and drinking a full glass of liquid sugar that's just going to make you crave more sugar.
Am I going to be a complete dumb a** nope but am I going to get that milkshake friggen right....esp if it's a hot august night.
Will it make me crave sugar...no more than the chocolate eggs I am currently eating0 -
Are you still eating 600 calories per day, OP?
Actually, fast food joints have beer on tap in most of Europe. It's only for cultural reasons that the same isn't true in the US.
I'm wondering which fast food joint is serving beer; the Wendy's around here has yet to install a kegerator.
Beer is no good???Fast Food makes it easy to go over normal calories you should have! The extra sodas, beers, and sugars are no good.
OMG what a thing to say, there is no need to insult beer.
As a matter of fact, public eateries during the Roman Empire served mostly food during the day (and could give you a glass of wine with it if you wanted) and switched to serving mostly alcohol at night (and could give you a meal with it if you wanted).
It's a very logical business model, when you think about it.0 -
You don't get any extra points if you wake up hungry and end up binging on donuts because you don't have enough time to eat enough food by the time you need to go to work the next morning.
You are arguing with people who have been pretty successful on this site.0 -
I have read your post three times and with all due respect, I have no idea what you are talking about, except that I understand that you cut out soft drinks, sweet tea and eat beans from a can and put yogurt on your potato. Those are all things to congratulate you for. Does the rest of what you said apply to all of us ? I don't think so.....
I don't think you understand the art of an example.
Possibly, but what example would that be ?
You are not alone. I can't figure out the meaning or purpose of the OP either. That being said, my average daily calorie intake for the last 7 days was 1935cals/day. Not difficult at all. Oh, yeah, and I lost a lb in the process.
What can't you understand? It's in English, there are few(if any) grammatical errors. You might disagree, and you might be trying to tell everyone you disagree by being an *kitten* hat about it, but if you just don't understand what I'm trying to communicate then I think there's a deeper problem, and it's not on my end.
That being said, Yes, anyone can eat and add it all up and then say "oh no im 400 calories short" and go buy a milkshake. That's not okay. Planning for exactly 2000 is difficult for all of the reasons I have already said.
Actually, that is 100% OK. Why wouldn't it be? As long as you have hit all your macros, you don't get any points for eating 400 more calories of chicken and canned veggies.
Actually if your goal is losing weight and you find yourself 400 calories below at the end of the day and not hungry you DO get extra points for not being a complete dumb**** and drinking a full glass of liquid sugar that's just going to make you crave more sugar.
No, I most certainly don't get bonus points. All I would get is a bigger deficit than what I need/want and a crap run/lifting session the next day.
No thanks on that. I'll just eat the ice cream (Southern Butter Pecan, ftw)0 -
There is no single answer for everyone. I've been at this since November 2011. On maintenance since May 2012. It's working, but it's nevery easy.This is why everyone is always wondering why they can't eat the amount of calories they are supposed to. It's easy to eat 1000 calories in a day, its easy to eat 3000 calories in a day. It is not east to eat 2000 calories in a day.
I'm glad you found out what worked for you but that doesn't mean it is the same for everyone.
I agree with this. I've started eating at my manteinance level around 3 weeks ago, and at first I had to eat very often in order to reach my daily recommended intake. I wasn't used to eat that amount of food anymore, and I wasn't used to eat often either. After a couple of weeks I find it much easier, and even if I have to keep track of what I eat, I can see it's a reasonable amount of food for the whole day. So I guess manteinance is working. When I was overweight-almost obese, I was probably just used to eat more everyday. It doesn't happen overnight, that's why manteinance should be reached gradually. It might seems stupid but sometimes you need a couple of weeks to get used to eat a few hundreds of calories more on a daily basis...
You should try a bulk sometime0 -
There is no single answer for everyone. I've been at this since November 2011. On maintenance since May 2012. It's working, but it's nevery easy.This is why everyone is always wondering why they can't eat the amount of calories they are supposed to. It's easy to eat 1000 calories in a day, its easy to eat 3000 calories in a day. It is not east to eat 2000 calories in a day.
I'm glad you found out what worked for you but that doesn't mean it is the same for everyone.
I agree with this. I've started eating at my manteinance level around 3 weeks ago, and at first I had to eat very often in order to reach my daily recommended intake. I wasn't used to eat that amount of food anymore, and I wasn't used to eat often either. After a couple of weeks I find it much easier, and even if I have to keep track of what I eat, I can see it's a reasonable amount of food for the whole day. So I guess manteinance is working. When I was overweight-almost obese, I was probably just used to eat more everyday. It doesn't happen overnight, that's why manteinance should be reached gradually. It might seems stupid but sometimes you need a couple of weeks to get used to eat a few hundreds of calories more on a daily basis...
You should try a bulk sometime
Yeah, I'd really like to0 -
Ghetto edit:Are you still eating 600 calories per day, OP?
If you are, it might explain why you find it easier to eat 1000 calories than 2000.
This could be complete broscience so you can all feel free to call me out on it, but I've heard it said that sustained very low calorie intake suppresses the appetite.
As long as you continue to eat very little your appetite remains low, but when you eat normally it returns...0 -
Same here. I eat mostly ad libitum during the day and then at the end of the day if I have more calories left I eat something. (I have never ever pre-planned beyond the meal I'm preparing to eat.)
I don't eat in a vacuum.......I don't look up from the computer after logging and realize " OMG I only ate 689 calories, how did that come about " ?. It also does not happen that I realize " oh, I ate 3415 calories without realizing how that happened ". Why,? because I plan my food, I know now that a person of my height and age cannot consistently eat more than 1200 calories if they want to lose some weight. And I plan accordingly. Not down to last last calories, but within a 100 or so and that includes for example half a pound of strawberries with cream & sugar. I follow some people who are really successful and who I admire for all they have done to shed weight and become healthy and fit.....and they all plan before hand. No one eats " just because there are calories left " and I agree with you....it's not a good idea.
I am no one special, possess no special powers and am of average intelligence......and I manage. So what is so difficult for others? That's what I don't understand and the fact that " This is why people can't eat all of their calories " is a blanket statement that does not apply to many if not most people... And I realized right away that the post was in English and understand that part just fine, even though English is my fourth language.......jejeje.
While I agree with some of what you said, the bolded part I disagree with. People who have specific fitness goals find that their performance suffers if they are not eating ALL of their calories. These people do eat more when they have calories left.
This happens a lot when I am bulking. Because I get used to eating about 2400 calories a day and suddenly change my goal to add an extra 1000-1500 per day.
I agree with you. I thought since I was talking about " shedding weight " that that would exclude those who have to eat more because they are bulking. I realize now that the next time I have to be much more accurate to include all of the different groups of people who eat for whatever reasons and that of course includes those people who all of a sudden need to increase their calories from 2400 to 3400-3900. I was only thinking of those trying to " shed weight ", which was relevant to what I wanted to say.....my mistake.....:o).
But ...somehow I think that people who want to lose weight ( and not those who are bulking ) need to plan a bit more....or a lot more, because a calorie deficit by definition is limiting....much more than eating anywhere from 3000-4000 calories.
I wasn't talking about bulking. I'm talking about people who are eating at a calorie deficit to lose weight and/or fat, and yet still want to meet their performance goals, and thus need to eat all of their calories so they can perform well. Not gaining weight or muscle, just ability to continue to progress in their fitness program.
Yup. Fuel and train! Even at a deficit.0 -
it is NOT okay to go out at 8 or 9 oclock at night and buy yourself a milkshake full of sugars, or even worse, synthetic sugars and then go to bed a couple of hours later. If you think that's okay, Im not sure what to tell you.
I regularly eat at 10:00 at night, and that is usually when I have my treat for the day, because that is when I know I have my calories. It's simply the way our schedules work.
For the record, I'm down 43 pounds from my starting weight, 23 down since January, and have lost 1.5-2 lbs per week for each of the last three weeks, since figuring out my actual TDEE and adjusting my caloric intake on the basis of my actual TDEE on a daily basis.
So, you know, you aren't totally right there, my friend. Would a healthier diet perhaps exclude some of the sugar I eat? Probably. But this is by far the longest I have ever maintained a 'diet' and it's by far the most weight I've ever lost and I know I can continue to do this for months and years to come. So, you know, from my perspective it is about what works for you physically and mentally. I know I will tighten up my eating at some point and make more nutritionally sound choices than I make right now because the stress I'm under compels me to eat all the bad things now and just sticking within a calorie budget is difficult enough at the moment.
If you are getting your macros and micros, why would you change?0 -
Id be interested in seeing your diary. Some days I have trouble eating enough without eating something bad for me.
That will change when you get closer to your goal. I started at @230 and normally I always had something bad every day, sometimes more! Unfortunately when you only have 1700 calories or less you can't eat bad stuff much anymore
I envy people with normal metabolisms who can still eat 'desert' every day and lose weight. 0
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