Hugh Jackman Deadlifts 400 pounds

No, 4 plates = 405.

Oh, you mean 8 plates.

How many reps?

1x3
And that's my entire deadlift workout.

Eh, ok. I wouldn't call that "for reps", that just a work set.

If there are multiple reps it's reps.....

So what are your stats? Height? Weight? Do you compete?

I was 181 lbs @ 5"7
but now I'm trying to cut to 9% BF from 15 and due to back-muscle strain there are certain workouts I avoid for time being, Deadlifts being one of them.
Why would I complete I'm one of weakest guys in my gym.

Oh. You're a guy. I thought you were a girl (because your profile). I was just wondering because I know quite a few females that lift who can't pull a 400lb deadlift even after 2+ years of lifting.

I haven't seeing a girl attempt 405. I rarely see guys attempting 405 deadlifts.

No, 4 plates = 405.

Oh, you mean 8 plates.

How many reps?

1x3
And that's my entire deadlift workout.

Eh, ok. I wouldn't call that "for reps", that just a work set.

If there are multiple reps it's reps.....

So what are your stats? Height? Weight? Do you compete?

I was 181 lbs @ 5"7
but now I'm trying to cut to 9% BF from 15 and due to back-muscle strain there are certain workouts I avoid for time being, Deadlifts being one of them.
Why would I complete I'm one of weakest guys in my gym.

Oh. You're a guy. I thought you were a girl (because your profile). I was just wondering because I know quite a few females that lift who can't pull a 400lb deadlift even after 2+ years of lifting.

I haven't seeing a girl attempt 405. I rarely see guys attempting 405 deadlifts.

The closest girl I know of is Sarauk2sf. She had a 325lb deadlift at a competition last year but I think she's increased that a bit since then.

No, 4 plates = 405.

Oh, you mean 8 plates.

How many reps?

1x3
And that's my entire deadlift workout.

Eh, ok. I wouldn't call that "for reps", that just a work set.

If there are multiple reps it's reps.....

So what are your stats? Height? Weight? Do you compete?

I was 181 lbs @ 5"7
but now I'm trying to cut to 9% BF from 15 and due to back-muscle strain there are certain workouts I avoid for time being, Deadlifts being one of them.
Why would I complete I'm one of weakest guys in my gym.

Oh. You're a guy. I thought you were a girl (because your profile). I was just wondering because I know quite a few females that lift who can't pull a 400lb deadlift even after 2+ years of lifting.

Yes I'm a guy, I forgot to change genders when I was signing up, any way to change it now?

You should be able to in your settings.

No, 4 plates = 405.

Oh, you mean 8 plates.

How many reps?

1x3
And that's my entire deadlift workout.

Eh, ok. I wouldn't call that "for reps", that just a work set.

If there are multiple reps it's reps.....

So what are your stats? Height? Weight? Do you compete?

I was 181 lbs @ 5"7
but now I'm trying to cut to 9% BF from 15 and due to back-muscle strain there are certain workouts I avoid for time being, Deadlifts being one of them.
Why would I complete I'm one of weakest guys in my gym.

Oh. You're a guy. I thought you were a girl (because your profile). I was just wondering because I know quite a few females that lift who can't pull a 400lb deadlift even after 2+ years of lifting.

Yes I'm a guy, I forgot to change genders when I was signing up, any way to change it now?

Ninja squirrel has deactivated. That didn't last long.

I think you're assuming that everyone cares about grip strength though. If you're training for aesthetics, it's questionable whether you even want to do deadlifts to begin with, much less a bunch of grip work just to improve your ability to do strapless deadlifts. If you're training for power lifting or strong man though, of course grip strength is very important.

:huh: :huh: :noway: :noway:

Srs dude???

Come on man....
A lot of times you post really good info.....but then do something like that....

I'm assuming you're referring to the comment about deadlifts rather than grip strength, and I thought about not saying that when I originally made that post since anything that questions deadlifts even in the slightest is likely to catch flak, haha. I'm not saying don't do them, not at all, especially when starting out and attempting to build strength. But you can make a rational argument about why they don't necessarily need to be included in a bodybuilding program and many successful bodybuilders (even at the top level) do not incorporate deadlifts as part of their typical routine.

I am saying to the fact that you are saying that since someone is lifting for aesthetics, then heavy lifting is not needed....
or vice-versa...
However you wish to view it.

I think it is a stupid comment.

While you may be referring to my pic, as me being aesthetic.....fine whatever.
I still lift heavy, so my aesthetic is a by-product of how I lift....

While my weight and strength are not as high as I would like them to be, I am not ashamed of what I can do either.....

y'all know i come here to start fires as much as anybody, but i don't think that was his meaning at all. i think he was just saying that for aesthetics a person doesn't have to lift nearly as heavy and can stick with a volume based hypertrophy program. i don't think he was calling you weak or anything of the sort.

What does "how good your nutrition is" have to do with how special your lift is???
either you can pick the thing up or you can't.

and I only asked if you were new because she was clearly being sarcastic.

Carb rich foods will boost your energy....
I find a bit weaker if I don't eat carb-heavy foods before pre-workout..
Also I can't detect sarcasm, more so on the internet, because I'm autistic.

good luck to you my friend- you're going to have a hard time with that here due to the sarcasm and snark.

Meh- you should be able to pick it up.. it's not going to give you an extra 15 pounds by carbing up or not.
I think that's more mental than anything else.

It's not a mental thing.
If your glycogen stores are empty It's beyond me how you can max your weights..

And you're gone- but I'm answering anyway:
if you're maxing out sure- but just because I didn't eat isn't going to stop me from going to hammer my workout to the best of my abilities. would it have been better with some carbs? sure- but it rarely puts me so under that I think I had a crappy work out.

Nut up and go lift.

And in other news:
I would like to be one of the people who trains for 2 years and pull 400 plus- sign me up for that list please.

Gone where?

2 years and pull 400 plus-

SS+GOMAD
You won't lift 400 because you're a woman, but you'll lift much heavier.

And in other news:
I would like to be one of the people who trains for 2 years and pull 400 plus- sign me up for that list please.

Well, you're a chick... not sure that poster's comment applies.

But it can definitely be true for males. I didn't start lifting until last week of July 2013. By April 2014, 9-months later, I could do 410 for 1-rep max.

As for the straps argument... when I started deadlifting, I had a problem with grip strength. My ability to gain on my deadlift outpaced my hand strength gains. But I really didn't want to use a strap, because in my opinion, that's using a crutch, so I just kept using my hands, doing as much as I could during my workouts. Eventually my grip strength caught up and now it's no longer an issue.

If straps don't bother you, by all means, use them. But for me personally, I consider every muscle in the lift as being necessary to the lift. Grip strength is a part of the deadlift, and for me, I want all recruited muscles to gain and be at their strongest. Grip strength is a huge benefit to doing a deadlift, IMO. I am not sure why anyone would want to circumvent that gain.

It's cool to have strong hands.

As for the straps argument... when I started deadlifting, I had a problem with grip strength. My ability to gain on my deadlift outpaced my hand strength gains. But I really didn't want to use a strap, because in my opinion, that's using a crutch, so I just kept using my hands, doing as much as I could during my workouts. Eventually my grip strength caught up and now it's no longer an issue.

If straps don't bother you, by all means, use them. But for me personally, I consider every muscle in the lift as being necessary to the lift. Grip strength is a part of the deadlift, and for me, I want all recruited muscles to gain and be at their strongest. Grip strength is a huge benefit to doing a deadlift, IMO. I am not sure why anyone would want to circumvent that gain.

It's cool to have strong hands.

I get that and understand where you are coming from.....

But for me I don't see it as a crutch...
I mean even though I use straps, I still can't walk into a gym right now and DL 600#

Ppl that takes roids, don't just sit on their couch and get big...
They still have to go to the gym and move heavy stuff......

For now, the straps allow me to lift without killing my joints even more than I do.....cause I have awful joints.....
So when I go heavy on anything.....chest, back, legs....
I feel it.

Not to mention holding heavy weight in my hands, kills my hands/fingers around the knuckles, something awful....

As for the straps argument... when I started deadlifting, I had a problem with grip strength. My ability to gain on my deadlift outpaced my hand strength gains. But I really didn't want to use a strap, because in my opinion, that's using a crutch, so I just kept using my hands, doing as much as I could during my workouts. Eventually my grip strength caught up and now it's no longer an issue.

If straps don't bother you, by all means, use them. But for me personally, I consider every muscle in the lift as being necessary to the lift. Grip strength is a part of the deadlift, and for me, I want all recruited muscles to gain and be at their strongest. Grip strength is a huge benefit to doing a deadlift, IMO. I am not sure why anyone would want to circumvent that gain.

It's cool to have strong hands.

I get that and understand where you are coming from.....

But for me I don't see it as a crutch...
I mean even though I use straps, I still can't walk into a gym right now and DL 600#

Ppl that takes roids, don't just sit on their couch and get big...
They still have to go to the gym and move heavy stuff......

For now, the straps allow me to lift without killing my joints even more than I do.....cause I have awful joints.....
So when I go heavy on anything.....chest, back, legs....
I feel it.

Not to mention holding heavy weight in my hands, kills my hands/fingers around the knuckles, something awful....

Your hands hurt is the excuse to use straps.

This thread found a new level of funny that I frankly didn't think it had in it!

And in other news:
I would like to be one of the people who trains for 2 years and pull 400 plus- sign me up for that list please.

Well, you're a chick... not sure that poster's comment applies.

But it can definitely be true for males. I didn't start lifting until last week of July 2013. By April 2014, 9-months later, I could do 410 for 1-rep max.

As for the straps argument... when I started deadlifting, I had a problem with grip strength. My ability to gain on my deadlift outpaced my hand strength gains. But I really didn't want to use a strap, because in my opinion, that's using a crutch, so I just kept using my hands, doing as much as I could during my workouts. Eventually my grip strength caught up and now it's no longer an issue.

If straps don't bother you, by all means, use them. But for me personally, I consider every muscle in the lift as being necessary to the lift. Grip strength is a part of the deadlift, and for me, I want all recruited muscles to gain and be at their strongest. Grip strength is a huge benefit to doing a deadlift, IMO. I am not sure why anyone would want to circumvent that gain.

It's cool to have strong hands.

To me all this anti-stap talk is like saying youre against using partials and negatives as tools to strengthen your bench press strength. Its a means to an end.

If someones grip fails during a deadlift session, but their legs, glutes, back feel good, I can understand them not wanting to stop and do farmers walks or something midway through the DL session, so instead they grab straps and carry on.....makes sense. Grip strength will catch up a bit eventually, regardless.

I've actually switched to versa grips recently which I find even more comfortable than standard lifting straps.

i used straps on DL, bent rows, and pull ups. never did grip work a day in my life. and guess what, my grip improved just fine. even better, i got stronger and bigger faster because i didn't let my hands hold me back from what was actually important to me.

That's nice, but I hope you realize that none of those lifts counted ... because straps.

Your hands hurt is the excuse to use straps.

Just noticed too....you are 26??

I think you're assuming that everyone cares about grip strength though. If you're training for aesthetics, it's questionable whether you even want to do deadlifts to begin with, much less a bunch of grip work just to improve your ability to do strapless deadlifts. If you're training for power lifting or strong man though, of course grip strength is very important.

:huh: :huh: :noway: :noway:

Srs dude???

Come on man....
A lot of times you post really good info.....but then do something like that....

I'm assuming you're referring to the comment about deadlifts rather than grip strength, and I thought about not saying that when I originally made that post since anything that questions deadlifts even in the slightest is likely to catch flak, haha. I'm not saying don't do them, not at all, especially when starting out and attempting to build strength. But you can make a rational argument about why they don't necessarily need to be included in a bodybuilding program and many successful bodybuilders (even at the top level) do not incorporate deadlifts as part of their typical routine.

I am saying to the fact that you are saying that since someone is lifting for aesthetics, then heavy lifting is not needed....
or vice-versa...
However you wish to view it.

I think it is a stupid comment.

While you may be referring to my pic, as me being aesthetic.....fine whatever.
I still lift heavy, so my aesthetic is a by-product of how I lift....

While my weight and strength are not as high as I would like them to be, I am not ashamed of what I can do either.....

i commend parsc for fighting the power.

I completely agree with you on there being people who are more interested in training other area's hard (be that for asthetics or they desire more strength in whatever muslce group), whom really have no need or desire for the functionality of grip strength. for them the straps make a lot of sense and the idea of 'cheating' or not really has zero bearing on thier training.

i also think its interesting how the mere suggestion that one... at least could get away with (lol) not doing deadlifts was interpreted as suggestion to abandon heavy lifting. apparently thats how closely the two are intertwinded in MFP culture.