When I eat 1200 cals I put on weight
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happyfeetrebel1 wrote: »Starvation mode doesn't exist, so don't 'up' your calories to get out of it. I still suspect you are eating a LOT more than you think; if you're gaining on what you're eating, you're not going to lose on MORE.
Seriously, you need to step back and take a good look at how you're logging things, and modify it.
Good luck
Starvation mode very much does indeed exist for the % of the population that eats in anorexic/disordered eating levels. People who suffer such illnesses HAVE to increase calories incrementally until they reach an appropriate level. I'm proof positive of how it can screw everything up. Blood tests will demonstrate it if it's occurring though, which is where people get misinformed. A few days doesn't do it, but a few weeks can, and many years will nearly cement your body into it. *sigh*
Agree Quasita.
I don't know how it has happened but somehow the idea of "starvation mode" has become severely twisted. Starvation mode DOES exist, but is not likely to be experienced by most people. Genuine starvation mode is when you eat so few calories, for a prolonged period of time, that your body starts using its own muscles as an energy source because it's not getting enough calories from food intake. This is a very dangerous situation to be in and is usually only experienced by people with eating disorders or in famine-striken third world countries.
The "starvation mode" that frequently gets thrown around these boards does NOT exist. It is a physical impossibility to gain weight if you consume fewer calories than you burn. Your rate of weight loss may slow as your metabolism adjusts, and certain medical conditions may interfere, but you simply cannot gain weight when truly eating at a deficit.0 -
Perhaps, you metabolism is not working the way it should? Check with a doctor, that used to happen to me too and I just had a very lazy metabolism.0
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A little ham isn't going to hurt a dog. That is even more widely known.MagicalGiraffe wrote: »rachelperry84 wrote: »Friday October 10
Lunch
Twix - Finger, 2 finger
Ocado - Honey Roast Ham, 2 slice(s)
Sunday October 12
Snacks
Monster - Energy Absolutely Zero Uk
Waitrose - British Breaded Ham, 3 slice
Ham on it's own? no bread, salad or accompaniments? looks very much like bad logging
Genuine day. Love eating ham on its own, and sharing it with the dogs.
Just more for the safety of your dogs, you shouldn't feed them processed or cured pork like bacon and ham. Not only is the fat content high but it's also full of sodium. Their little bodies find it harder to process. This is widely known knowledge.
OP- I bet you can find your old password. Log out and try to log back in with your original user name and hit "Forgot your password or username" and fill out the form.
From the way she phrased it, how she loves to eat ham and share it with the dogs makes me believe it's not just a little. Also from how she must be underestimating her own portion sizes for her to be putting on weight when she's eating 1.2k a day could suggest her portion sizes for her dogs aren't mindful either. I'm an animal lover, just wanting the best welfare for the dogs. Denying them processed and cured meat does no harm.
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rachelperry84 wrote: »rachelperry84 wrote: »
Take Thursday (9th) for example you had a drink of tea for breakfast and a hot chocolate for lunch, 6th + 7th can't be right.
Your rarely eat 1000 calories.
No it is right
100% as close as too what I can record.
Can I ask how so you guys log food if you've eaten out? That seems to of been something that I've been pulled up on. So how?
Hi when I eat out, and i know the calories, as they are on the menu, I do what you do, when i get home i log them, and if the ones that come up on here are under what the menu said, then i add a percentage to make it the same, like your 1.2, however if they are higher on here, i tend just to leave them, for example i never eat mayo, or bbq sauce etc, but a chicken meal i had at a pub, had the calories with the sauce, as did MFP, so i just left them.
I understand why you are putting the 1.2's etc, the only thing to watch for there is, that the macros might be wrong. But i think you need to try 3 meals a day for a week and see how you go. Your diet is not the best x
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pinkiezoom wrote: »rachelperry84 wrote: »rachelperry84 wrote: »
Take Thursday (9th) for example you had a drink of tea for breakfast and a hot chocolate for lunch, 6th + 7th can't be right.
Your rarely eat 1000 calories.
No it is right 100% as close as too what I can record.
Can I ask how so you guys log food if you've eaten out? That seems to of been something that I've been pulled up on. So how?
Hi when I eat out, and i know the calories, as they are on the menu, I do what you do, when i get home i log them, and if the ones that come up on here are under what the menu said, then i add a percentage to make it the same, like your 1.2, however if they are higher on here, i tend just to leave them, for example i never eat mayo, or bbq sauce etc, but a chicken meal i had at a pub, had the calories with the sauce, as did MFP, so i just left them.
I understand why you are putting the 1.2's etc, the only thing to watch for there is, that the macros might be wrong. But i think you need to try 3 meals a day for a week and see how you go. Your diet is not the best x
I also try to stick to restaurants which show the cals on the menu, we are lucky here in the UK as we have many restaurants with 500 cal menus. If i cannot find the cals on the menus i tend to google the restaurant, decide what i want to eat in advance and prelog using the highest value generic dish on MFP and i try to be generous with the estimated serving size.
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rachelperry84 wrote: »Hello
First time poster so sorry. I have tried the mfp for ages now, was under a different name but lost log in details when switching phones. If I eat 1200 cals I put on weight about 1-2kg per week. Eating under, 500ish varies day to day I am only maintaining weight. I'm so frustrated. I want to eat healthy but it seems so pointless when I'm actually getting fatter! Please note that due to health reasons I am unable to exercise. I log everything I eat, mostly by the barcode on mfp and weight out food. Anyone shred any light on this please, I feel so low about it all.
Assuming you are actually weighing and measuring and tracking accurately, I highly recommend a full thyroid panel and a trip to an endocrinologist. I was in the same boat as you -- gaining on 1,000 calories a day, only able to lose at 500-700 a day WITH exercise. I did that for five years and gained more than 30 pounds.
It's a long story, but basically my doctor is an idiot and I've had Hashimoto's all this time.
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Been too see doctor, managed to get an appointment today. She is going to thyroid tests as she thinks that this the most likely as well tackling depression as she feels that's also a huge factor. Brain cyst maybe have something to do with it as well so we will see when more tests come back.
As for eating ham, it's 1-3 slices shared between me and 4 dogs. I put down I've eaten all of it when in fact it's been shared out doing some training or as titbits. It's not an everyday thing either.0 -
rachelperry84 wrote: »Been too see doctor, managed to get an appointment today. She is going to thyroid tests as she thinks that this the most likely as well tackling depression as she feels that's also a huge factor. Brain cyst maybe have something to do with it as well so we will see when more tests come back.
As for eating ham, it's 1-3 slices shared between me and 4 dogs. I put down I've eaten all of it when in fact it's been shared out doing some training or as titbits. It's not an everyday thing either.
I hope you get some answers because it sounds like you have something health wise working against you. It's easy for people to say "it's not possible", but we are not all alike. When you have a health condition that not only hinders mobility, but also slows metabolism, weight loss is an uphill battle. Sure, your food diary could probably be more detailed, but only you know what your taking in. It is mind boggling that one can eat below 1200 cal and either not lose or gain because theoretically speaking if you are burning more than you're taking in, you should lose, but it happens... Good luck to you!0 -
LosinMama1966 wrote: »happyfeetrebel1 wrote: »Starvation mode doesn't exist, so don't 'up' your calories to get out of it. I still suspect you are eating a LOT more than you think; if you're gaining on what you're eating, you're not going to lose on MORE.
Seriously, you need to step back and take a good look at how you're logging things, and modify it.
Good luck
Starvation mode very much does indeed exist for the % of the population that eats in anorexic/disordered eating levels. People who suffer such illnesses HAVE to increase calories incrementally until they reach an appropriate level. I'm proof positive of how it can screw everything up. Blood tests will demonstrate it if it's occurring though, which is where people get misinformed. A few days doesn't do it, but a few weeks can, and many years will nearly cement your body into it. *sigh*
^^^Nope...you really need to do some research...
Yes it seems like research is needing to be done for starvation mode. Starvation mode has been researched as far back as 1907- VAN NOORDEN. The only reason I post to forms is due to lacking information given to people that really need to see a doctor first and see what their bodies are telling them. I am not a medical doctor but I will try and find ample information which gives them a starting place to do their research for them and to understand before they go to a doctor and ask questions about them.
http://archive.unu.edu/unupress/food2/UID07E/UID07E11.HTM#2. early total starvation
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1038/oby.2003.26/full
http://www.metaboliceffect.com/starvation-mode/
Starvation mode is not a myth and it can happen, but however it happens to people differently and seeking advise from a persons doctor is a start of a good healthy progrcess. Then take the next steps. This is not a quick fix on weight loss and people did not get fat overnight and it will not come off over night. This will take work and doing it right for your body will ensure you stay healthy.
For the OP, it is good you are taking the advise and getting the workup you need to start your progress. It will take determination and dedication which I think you have and you will succeed in this journey. Follow some of the advise here and look at keeping accurate logs of your food cause your doctor may want to see this also and you can print these out on MFP. Keep up the great work and keep asking the questions and always question advise to become informed.0 -
even if you're miscalculating, I doubt it's by half. have thyroid checked ever? report tsh #s back here if so!0
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some people in this thread are so unnecessarily rude. good god.0
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thin2win777 wrote: »even if you're miscalculating, I doubt it's by half. have thyroid checked ever? report tsh #s back here if so!
I'm on thyroid meds and have mine checked at least once a year to see if I'm still on the right amount, but I see no point in posting your numbers here on an open forum where you don't know anyone? Seems rather personal. Just a 'my thyroid's fine' or 'turns out I need thyroid meds' would suffice.
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So....many...empty...calories. Choose more substantial food. More protein and for goodness sake eat some more.0
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Calm down firstly, take a deep breath. As you are female, a lot of things could be going on. I personally make sure I weigh on an empty stomach, empty bladder, no jewellery or clothes apart from my ear studs. When I am near that time of month, waterweight will creep up, even happens if you are ovulating. Maybe you can find out on the internet when you are due to ovulate, and when you are near your period, to not weigh at these times. The best time to weigh is the day after your period has gone. Also weighing at the same time, and not each day is the best. Are you eating exactly 1200 calories? If not, and you are eating less, you can gain weight from starvation mode, it does not happen straight away, but after awhile it will. Make sure to measure everything preferably with electronic scales; foods like cheese and nuts, cereal, milk. Make sure also to never weigh on carpet. With these tips, you should see a loss, otherwise, it could be something to do with your thyroid, or something else medical, in which it is best to see the doctor.0
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Try not eating out for a week or 2. Only eat where you can measure EVRYTHING accurately. Absolutley no guessing for 2 weeks. Then see what happens.0
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Sweetie, you are not in starvation mode.rachelperry84 wrote: »Here's my suggestion, cook your own meals for at least a week and see if things change.
You said you weigh things, so you do own a food scale. Great, use it.
Weigh everything that goes into a meal and make a recipe out of it, don't eat at restaurants for this week to eliminate any guessing. Restaurant foods are notorious for being very high in fat, carbs, and sodium.
At least this way, when you go to your doctor you will have a healthy food plan to present
Thank you and everyone else.
I'm going to aim for 1600 healthy cals this week and see if my body has gone into savatation mode. No eating out or packets.
Should of come on here last week to ask but never mind. Hope doctors just don't turn me away, I've a fair few syptoms that are pointing in the direction of thyroid issues, I do have a brain cyst which I'm not 100% sure where that lies in relation the thyroid or part of that system so that's something to go armed with tomorrow.
So thank you all for the help. May venture back on here when I'm brave enough to take it, but we will see
As for the rest of your medical issues, please just make sure you get to the doctor.
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At the risk of prying, is there no way you can get any exercise? Even walking? Exercise doesn't just burn calories... it also kicks up your metabolism overall. And aside from the good advice about going to a doctor, only other thing I can suggest is to eat small meals and drink lots of water if you are hungry. But it doesn't seem to me you should have to be miserably hungry all the time either! :-(0
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Seriously, what is a packet?-1
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Be careful with your tea logging. I was logging my tea with those values (15 cals per mug) but when I weighed the amount of milk I put in it's more like 50 cals (100ml of semi skimmed). When someone else make a cup or it's in a small mug I might log it as 0.8 or 0.75 or a mug. It might not sound a lot, but I was having up to 6 cups a day when I worked, = 300cals compared to 90cals.0
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