Clean Eating
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thornborrow193 wrote: »I new to MFP. I was not aware of the controversial nature of this post.
I am just starting out. I joined last week.
Today I wish I never did.
There's really no need to be taking this so personally. No one is telling you what to eat. No one is judging you, they are commenting on a diet plan. Diet plans don't have feelings.
Listen, I get it. You're excited about a new program and you want it to work. We all have that. We all have our things that we love that other people don't like so much. Trust me, there's rarely a week that goes by here that I don't see an anti-CrossFit post. I love CrossFit. It's my jam. But, hey, if people don't like it, that's their choice. I'm not going to take it personally because they aren't judging me as a person, they are judging a workout.
I do me. They do them. We all co-exist just fine. Don't let differing opinions derail you. If you do, that just means your convictions weren't as strong as you thought.
Im sure your main complaint is kipping pull ups.
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lemurcat12 wrote: »SnuggleSmacks wrote: »How would coffee be clean? Even if you buy whole beans, aren't they roasted? I've never see raw coffee for sale.
I always wonder that, but it never seems to be excluded. I assume it's part of how you get to define "clean" to mean whatever.
Once upon a time I was fascinated by locovorism, but coffee would definitely be a sticking point (along with a number of other things). At least it's more consistent than the "clean" stuff, though, and doesn't have a name that's intended to insult others.
I've even read about how the oils in coffee made with standard roasting techniques is rancid and contributes to poor health, and there's a few companies who do some other roasting techniques which prevent this, but no one ever considers it unclean.0 -
So much straw in this thread.0
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Just curious.....what do you do if you go on vacations and no kitchen available?? How about birthday parties with cake and ice cream are served?? It's all part of life, I eat about 80% healthy foods and 20% of awesome foods like chocolate, ice cream, cookies, etc.
It's simple… you don't eat it.
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yopeeps025 wrote: »thornborrow193 wrote: »I new to MFP. I was not aware of the controversial nature of this post.
I am just starting out. I joined last week.
Today I wish I never did.
There's really no need to be taking this so personally. No one is telling you what to eat. No one is judging you, they are commenting on a diet plan. Diet plans don't have feelings.
Listen, I get it. You're excited about a new program and you want it to work. We all have that. We all have our things that we love that other people don't like so much. Trust me, there's rarely a week that goes by here that I don't see an anti-CrossFit post. I love CrossFit. It's my jam. But, hey, if people don't like it, that's their choice. I'm not going to take it personally because they aren't judging me as a person, they are judging a workout.
I do me. They do them. We all co-exist just fine. Don't let differing opinions derail you. If you do, that just means your convictions weren't as strong as you thought.
Im sure your main complaint is kipping pull ups.
Completely irrelevant to the point of my post.0 -
Is straw clean?Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »So much straw in this thread.
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thornborrow193 wrote: »I am no longer reading this posts or replying to this board. I am utterly discouraged by the feedback presented in this discussion board.
This post was never meant to be a discussion over who is correct or what is right.
It was about My choice and my decision.
I asked for others who are trying the same program to add me. Nothing more, nothing less.
Okay, I just noticed this. I shouldn't be screwing around here, as I have something I need to get done, but I'm sorry if you find the reaction discouraging.
I am curious why you aren't interested in a discussion, though. I think it's great if you want to improve your diet (although I think some of your "rules" are kind of arbitrary or simply not relevant to a goal of better health--I tried to point this out in my numbered list).
I do dislike the term "clean," but setting that aside I AM in favor of cooking mostly from whole foods, since I think if you like to cook that's an easy way to eat more nutritious, lower calorie meals and get in lots of veggies and so on (although it's also easy to cook mostly from whole foods and include lots of calories, trust me). I just don't see why people act like this is some special way to be that requires special rules.0 -
thornborrow193 wrote: »I new to MFP. I was not aware of the controversial nature of this post.
I am just starting out. I joined last week.
Today I wish I never did.
No reason to feel bad at all. I remember when I first started almost 2 years ago, I thought i knew everything about dieting, I mean come on I've been doing this since I was a kid. What I thought I knew was how to overly restrict my intake, and make this much more difficult than it needed to be. Luckily because of threads like this I heard that's not necessary. I researched and listened some more. That is all everyone is telling you, you can lose weight without placing tons of rules and restrictions on your intake.
I've lost 116 lbs, improved my health, all while eating a diet full of wonderfully delicious food. So instead of getting upset, sit back realize people aren't picking on you, but on the idea you posted. It has nothing to do with you or your choices.0 -
Do the OP's salty tears fit into the "clean eating" program?
If not, I'm going to need a mop.
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yopeeps025 wrote: »thornborrow193 wrote: »I new to MFP. I was not aware of the controversial nature of this post.
I am just starting out. I joined last week.
Today I wish I never did.
There's really no need to be taking this so personally. No one is telling you what to eat. No one is judging you, they are commenting on a diet plan. Diet plans don't have feelings.
Listen, I get it. You're excited about a new program and you want it to work. We all have that. We all have our things that we love that other people don't like so much. Trust me, there's rarely a week that goes by here that I don't see an anti-CrossFit post. I love CrossFit. It's my jam. But, hey, if people don't like it, that's their choice. I'm not going to take it personally because they aren't judging me as a person, they are judging a workout.
I do me. They do them. We all co-exist just fine. Don't let differing opinions derail you. If you do, that just means your convictions weren't as strong as you thought.
Im sure your main complaint is kipping pull ups.
Completely irrelevant to the point of my post.
I was curious like how OP does not understand why people do not see this whole clean eating diet plan necessary for anything.
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OP, I sent you a friend request. Please add me. I eat this way 100% of the time and love it. Real food tastes and makes you feel great! I haven't eaten out once in 8 weeks since I started this lifestyle. It's clearning my mind and showing me that I don't need to eat the kind of food that leads me to overeat or binge. Some people can have hot dogs, candy, cake, etc, and control themselves and not overeat. They stay under their calorie goals. Good for them. That doesn't work for all of us. For me, I feel like clean eating is a way for me to enjoy food, take control of my eating habits and find something else in life to enjoy. I have tons of hobbies I shelved because I gained weight. I want to get back to those things.
I don't take the original post that literally. The point is to eat food in as close to its natural state as possible. For example, Old fashioned or steel cut oats vs. quick oats or artificially flavored oatmeal. You can check my diary for some of the food I eat (when you accept my request; it's not public). If I were to have a hamburger, I would grind my own beef or turkey so I know what's in it.
Good luck and shake off the negativity and ridicule. It's not worth it.-1 -
Question: Is Cheese considered a "clean" food? I'm referring to Parmesan cheese (the real stuff from Italy) and Brie.0
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What an odd dichotomy: "healthy" and "awesome". If your healthy foods aren't awesome you're doing it wrong.Just curious.....what do you do if you go on vacations and no kitchen available?? How about birthday parties with cake and ice cream are served?? It's all part of life, I eat about 80% healthy foods and 20% of awesome foods like chocolate, ice cream, cookies, etc.
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yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »thornborrow193 wrote: »I new to MFP. I was not aware of the controversial nature of this post.
I am just starting out. I joined last week.
Today I wish I never did.
There's really no need to be taking this so personally. No one is telling you what to eat. No one is judging you, they are commenting on a diet plan. Diet plans don't have feelings.
Listen, I get it. You're excited about a new program and you want it to work. We all have that. We all have our things that we love that other people don't like so much. Trust me, there's rarely a week that goes by here that I don't see an anti-CrossFit post. I love CrossFit. It's my jam. But, hey, if people don't like it, that's their choice. I'm not going to take it personally because they aren't judging me as a person, they are judging a workout.
I do me. They do them. We all co-exist just fine. Don't let differing opinions derail you. If you do, that just means your convictions weren't as strong as you thought.
Im sure your main complaint is kipping pull ups.
Completely irrelevant to the point of my post.
I was curious like how OP does not understand why people do not see this whole clean eating diet plan necessary for anything.
Then start a thread about CrossFit. Or, run a search. You've been around here long enough to know this.
I was merely using my experience on these boards as an example to show that we all have things we do that not everyone agrees with - we don't need to derail this thread with a CrossFit debate.0 -
Just curious.....what do you do if you go on vacations and no kitchen available?? How about birthday parties with cake and ice cream are served?? It's all part of life, I eat about 80% healthy foods and 20% of awesome foods like chocolate, ice cream, cookies, etc.
drink water for the entire vacation ...0 -
FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »Just curious.....what do you do if you go on vacations and no kitchen available?? How about birthday parties with cake and ice cream are served?? It's all part of life, I eat about 80% healthy foods and 20% of awesome foods like chocolate, ice cream, cookies, etc.
It's simple… you don't eat it.
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FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »Just curious.....what do you do if you go on vacations and no kitchen available?? How about birthday parties with cake and ice cream are served?? It's all part of life, I eat about 80% healthy foods and 20% of awesome foods like chocolate, ice cream, cookies, etc.
It's simple… you don't eat it.
So you're planning on never having a piece of cake or ice cream again... that would be a very sad existence, I'll go back to being fat thanks0 -
OP, I sent you a friend request. Please add me. I eat this way 100% of the time and love it. Real food tastes and makes you feel great! I haven't eaten out once in 8 weeks since I started this lifestyle. It's clearning my mind and showing me that I don't need to eat the kind of food that leads me to overeat or binge. Some people can have hot dogs, candy, cake, etc, and control themselves and not overeat. They stay under their calorie goals. Good for them. That doesn't work for all of us. For me, I feel like clean eating is a way for me to enjoy food, take control of my eating habits and find something else in life to enjoy. I have tons of hobbies I shelved because I gained weight. I want to get back to those things.
I don't take the original post that literally. The point is to eat food in as close to its natural state as possible. For example, Old fashioned or steel cut oats vs. quick oats or artificially flavored oatmeal. You can check my diary for some of the food I eat (when you accept my request; it's not public). If I were to have a hamburger, I would grind my own beef or turkey so I know what's in it.
Good luck and shake off the negativity and ridicule. It's not worth it.
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thornborrow193 wrote: »I new to MFP. I was not aware of the controversial nature of this post.
I am just starting out. I joined last week.
Today I wish I never did.
There's really no need to be taking this so personally. No one is telling you what to eat. No one is judging you, they are commenting on a diet plan. Diet plans don't have feelings.
Listen, I get it. You're excited about a new program and you want it to work. We all have that. We all have our things that we love that other people don't like so much. Trust me, there's rarely a week that goes by here that I don't see an anti-CrossFit post. I love CrossFit. It's my jam. But, hey, if people don't like it, that's their choice. I'm not going to take it personally because they aren't judging me as a person, they are judging a workout.
I do me. They do them. We all co-exist just fine. Don't let differing opinions derail you. If you do, that just means your convictions weren't as strong as you thought.
I
you in spite of your crossfit ways... 
We can't all be perfect...
Oh wait... I haven't even lifted weights now in ages... Ok carry on...0 -
Just curious.....what do you do if you go on vacations and no kitchen available?? How about birthday parties with cake and ice cream are served?? It's all part of life, I eat about 80% healthy foods and 20% of awesome foods like chocolate, ice cream, cookies, etc.
drink water for the entire vacation ...
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Just curious.....what do you do if you go on vacations and no kitchen available?? How about birthday parties with cake and ice cream are served?? It's all part of life, I eat about 80% healthy foods and 20% of awesome foods like chocolate, ice cream, cookies, etc.
drink water for the entire vacation ...
Ironically, I tend to eat everything and anything on vacations and STILL manage to either lose 2-3 pounds or maintain my weight.
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Just curious.....what do you do if you go on vacations and no kitchen available?? How about birthday parties with cake and ice cream are served?? It's all part of life, I eat about 80% healthy foods and 20% of awesome foods like chocolate, ice cream, cookies, etc.
I do not eat out. I am married to a chef and eat out maybe three times a year. We ways eat at home or woth friends / family.
I got into late night munchies, baking and quick lunches which is part of the reason I ended up here. Chocolate is not my downfall, but other snacks are.
It's ok to say no to cake & ice cream. And I have no problems doing so.thornborrow193 wrote: »I new to MFP. I was not aware of the controversial nature of this post.
I am just starting out. I joined last week.
Today I wish I never did.
There's really no need to be taking this so personally. No one is telling you what to eat. No one is judging you, they are commenting on a diet plan.
I have read some very judgemental posts today and they were very hurtful.
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So tofu (once the ultimate health food) isn't considered "clean," right? Because it certainly does not come off the plant that way.
I cut a lot of processed food from my diet for sodium reasons years ago, but it didn't occur to get all weird and culty about it.0 -
Sorry for the mistake.
We always eat at home or with friends and family at their home*0 -
OP, I sent you a friend request. Please add me. I eat this way 100% of the time and love it. Real food tastes and makes you feel great! I haven't eaten out once in 8 weeks since I started this lifestyle. It's clearning my mind and showing me that I don't need to eat the kind of food that leads me to overeat or binge. Some people can have hot dogs, candy, cake, etc, and control themselves and not overeat. They stay under their calorie goals. Good for them. That doesn't work for all of us. For me, I feel like clean eating is a way for me to enjoy food, take control of my eating habits and find something else in life to enjoy. I have tons of hobbies I shelved because I gained weight. I want to get back to those things.
I don't take the original post that literally. The point is to eat food in as close to its natural state as possible. For example, Old fashioned or steel cut oats vs. quick oats or artificially flavored oatmeal. You can check my diary for some of the food I eat (when you accept my request; it's not public). If I were to have a hamburger, I would grind my own beef or turkey so I know what's in it.
Good luck and shake off the negativity and ridicule. It's not worth it.
why are steel cut oats superior to instant oats?
steel cut things are just......cooler.
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thornborrow193 wrote: »I new to MFP. I was not aware of the controversial nature of this post.
I am just starting out. I joined last week.
Today I wish I never did.
It's best to read the forum some and research the topic a bit more before kicking the hornets nest with an OP like that.0 -
^^^ This....all day!queenliz99 wrote: »Why not just eat less calories for 8 weeks.
That doesn't sell books. In order to sell books, you have to create a "nutritional boogeyman" by cherry-picking studies and just randomly putting references at the end of the book to make it look like the author actually read the references and the reader can say "look at all deez references it must be true".
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thornborrow193 wrote: »I new to MFP. I was not aware of the controversial nature of this post.
I am just starting out. I joined last week.
Today I wish I never did.
There's really no need to be taking this so personally. No one is telling you what to eat. No one is judging you, they are commenting on a diet plan. Diet plans don't have feelings.
Listen, I get it. You're excited about a new program and you want it to work. We all have that. We all have our things that we love that other people don't like so much. Trust me, there's rarely a week that goes by here that I don't see an anti-CrossFit post. I love CrossFit. It's my jam. But, hey, if people don't like it, that's their choice. I'm not going to take it personally because they aren't judging me as a person, they are judging a workout.
I do me. They do them. We all co-exist just fine. Don't let differing opinions derail you. If you do, that just means your convictions weren't as strong as you thought.
I you in spite of your crossfit ways... We can't all be perfect...
Oh wait... I haven't even lifted weights now in ages... Ok carry on...
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I haven't eaten out once in 8 weeks since I started this lifestyle.
First, if that works for you, great. I would not choose a lifestyle (that's what we are supposed to call it, right) that required me to never go out to eat, as my social life involves eating out reasonably frequently, and I enjoy it. But that's me and you are you, so it's not criticism. There are plenty of things I don't do that others enjoy.
What I do find puzzling, though, is why eating out must be inherently "unclean" (and ugh, that term). There are lots of restaurants where you can be confident that they use high quality ingredients and cook the food much like we would at home (well, okay, often with more butter). Sometimes this means using techniques or ingredients that are more challenging for me (ethnic places) and sometimes it just means that they have more skill and are doing preparations that are more complicated and time consuming or intricate than what I'd bother with at home (fine dining or even sometimes your really good local comfort food oriented places). As I mentioned above, many times they are quite focused on local ingredients to a level that seems rare with the "clean eating brigade" here, and I certainly expect their meat and veggies to be sourced more carefully than what one typically gets at the supermarket.
And still other restaurants are more run of the mill, but still have good quality ingredients and just provide convenience or atmosphere.
My question, after all that, is why this is "unclean," and why not eating out is something that people should strive for as an ideal, as you seem to suggest in your post.
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