I have to ask, how do you feel about the Osama news??
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OMG! I work on a Navy base, there are three bases around me. The traffic was HORRIBLE! We are prepared for something. However with that said today is going to be a great day on this base!!! :happy: Yea there is going to be someone else, something else is going to come along, but today is a good day! :drinker:0
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Really? It was reported on several sites he died yesterday because they said the raid begain at 4PM Washington D.C. Time.
I'm not familiar with DNA testing, but I'm certain there are methods to get testing done on a rather quick turnaround time if needed. Considering the tests were probably ordered by the White House, (and the test can be done quickly), they may have had the proof rather quickly after his death.
my understanding is (from the prez's speech) they got him a week ago, but have waited to announce. This may be wrong....but that's what I thought I understood.0 -
what are you even talking about? On 9/11/01, President Bush was in a classroom reading to children when his aide came in and told him, "Mr. President, the country is under attack." He finished up quickly and excused himself. He was most certainly NOT in another country. Facts, please.
I believe she is referring to the fact that Bush went after Saddam and not Bin Laden.0 -
Astounded by the reaction, this is one man, a sick man at that, he represents an organisation that represents the views of a sizeable population of people, the thing is, as wonderful as we ALL think our countries are, other people in other countries do not feel the same way, they do not want to live in the same way and find much of what we consider to be good and great about our nations as offensive and evil, I understand the effect of the 11th September on the US, We in the UK had our own bombings, and not just by Moslem terrorists, we now have former Terrorists in Government.
I do not feel that this one man being killed, if he has been, is going to do anything other than raise more hate and fanaticism in many parts of the world. The overt public celebrations are counter productive and no different to the celebrations in other countries after the terrible results of the 11/09 and 07/07 atrocities
I fear the consequences of this on innocent people, on both sides of this war about oil, power and money. Because make no mistake that is what its all about.0 -
what are you even talking about? On 9/11/01, President Bush was in a classroom reading to children when his aide came in and told him, "Mr. President, the country is under attack." He finished up quickly and excused himself. He was most certainly NOT in another country. Facts, please.
I'm fairly certain the reply was not meant to say that Bush was physically out of the country. We all know that is not the case. However, rather than going after Bin Laden following 9/11, Bush made Iraq a priority despite there being no connection between Iraq and 9/11.0 -
my understanding is (from the prez's speech) they got him a week ago, but have waited to announce. This may be wrong....but that's what I thought I understood.
That's what I got from his speech too, but then I read and heard on the news that the raid happened yesterday. Hmm.0 -
Muslim culture (like Jewish) they have to bury a body in a day.0
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I believe she is referring to the fact that Bush went after Saddam and not Bin Laden.
Yeah, I sure wish Saddam and his rape rooms were still in operation. What a swell guy he was. What a waste of time to eliminate him from the world.0 -
Muslim culture (like Jewish) they have to bury a body in a day.
why are we concerned with respecting the culture of the dead terrorist!?0 -
why are we concerned with respecting the culture of the dead terrorist!?
because that is how cool we are!!! I love that we showed that kind of respect.0 -
why are we concerned with respecting the culture of the dead terrorist!?
Cuz there are rules. And you can't go breakin' da rules.0 -
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because that is how cool we are!!! I love that we showed that kind of respect.0 -
I should add I am much more disturbed by the news of the death of Gaddaffi's son and grandchildren. That really upset me. They were innocent, no matter what a monster their father/grandfather is.
That's why terrorism is so successful. They indiscriminately blow *kitten* and people up, with no concern as to collateral damage, then hide behind civilians.
But, if we fight back and a (so-called) innocent is wounded or killed, then "Jihad" on the West.
Gotta fight fire with fire or get out of the fight. I'll vote for either one. All or Nothing.0 -
why are we concerned with respecting the culture of the dead terrorist!?
because we don't want every middle eastern country to start attacking us. Sometimes ya gotta do things tactfully.
They at least announced that they did it (didnt mean it happened
Hows that for a conspiracy theory. (those are not my real thoughts) 0 -
because we don't want every middle eastern country to start attacking us.
too late.0 -
I cannot celebrate death...but I can celebrate the hope to an end of tyranny, terror, and hate....
When I think of the service men and women who sacrifice to protect our country, and the rights and freedoms of others around the world, I am grateful. When I think of the families left behind by soldiers, and the victims of 9/11, and the needless death and suffering at the hands of Bin Laden, and others who would try to rule through fear and terror....
Where this takes us, only time will tell.0 -
I know it is a victory we as a Country have been seeking for a long time, but he is only one of many that hate the USA. Just like snakes travel in twos, I fear there are those that are just as evil as he was planning their next move!0
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Chuck Norris is a d bag.
Now I'm offended0 -
what are you even talking about? On 9/11/01, President Bush was in a classroom reading to children when his aide came in and told him, "Mr. President, the country is under attack." He finished up quickly and excused himself. He was most certainly NOT in another country. Facts, please.
My statement went completely over your head.0 -
I feel it is a long time coming for this justice to be served! I am thankful that we have one less terrorist among us on this earth! That does not mean that there are not more, it just means we have stood up to a terrorist and are sending the message to the world that we will continue to and always will fight terrorism! It says we are not cowards and we will fight for what is right and what is good!
This pang of conscience about celebrating an evil man's death that seems to fill many of our fellow humans is an interesting dynamic of fear! The Karma Factor is an interesting motivator toward humane behavior in some cases but, for many it does not seem to phase them and that includes terrorist who do their evil deeds without thought for the consequences that justice will visit on them. Fear is the enemy not the action of justice nor the celebration of victory! To live in fear of retaliation because of this is indeed the culprit of many emotionally unstable behaviors in society!
I believe our Government is full of knowledge and vigilance over these events and will do their best as far as human agency can against the evil's promoted by terrorist and their followers!
May God give America and her Government His grace and direction in this fight against terrorism!!!0 -
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I had recently got married and was living in London when 9/11 happened. I had an audition in Central London that evening, and the place was like a ghost town, everyone had been evacuated. My friend was working in the MOD that day and heard about it before it hit mainstream news, so rang me, and in my husband's office someone was on the phone to their sister in the WTC when the first plane hit. Even in London it was a big deal.
When our 7/7 bombings happened, I was due to give birth the next day. It was my parents wedding anniversary, and my father had called me from a train on the way into Waterloo to say he was going in for a meeting. We didn't hear from him for a few hours after that as all the phone networks went down. I had several friends on trains that were blown up, luckily none killed, but some injured badly. The hospital I was meant to be giving birth in was closed to all but burns victims, and we had sirens going all night past the house transporting people from other hospitals.
I remember with absolute clarity both days, but I can't celebrate death.
By celebrating I don't mean dancing in the street and throwing a party. Like I said I may be morally wrong. I think about this and I feel this, but in me deep, down I am celebrating. Right or wrong I can't help it. I am only human and I am imperfect.0 -
why are we concerned with respecting the culture of the dead terrorist!?
There are codes of conduct, even in war.0 -
There are codes of conduct, even in war.
our enemies do not respect such codes. I do not find them to be necessary either.
I think treating the body in any particular way to "respect the culture" is merely an action based on fear. Fear that if we don't, they will jihad all over us. That is what I object to.0 -
my understanding is (from the prez's speech) they got him a week ago, but have waited to announce. This may be wrong....but that's what I thought I understood.
No, I believe a week ago, President Obama decided to carry out the operation. The operation itself occured yesterday.0 -
I feel it is a long time coming for this justice to be served! I am thankful that we have one less terrorist among us on this earth! That does not mean that there are not more, it just means we have stood up to a terrorist and are sending the message to the world that we will continue to and always will fight terrorism! It says we are not cowards and we will fight for what is right and what is good!
This pang of conscience about celebrating an evil man's death that seems to fill many of our fellow humans is an interesting dynamic of fear! The Karma Factor is an interesting motivator toward humane behavior in some cases but, for many it does not seem to phase them and that includes terrorist who do their evil deeds without thought for the consequences that justice will visit on them. Fear is the enemy not the action of justice nor the celebration of victory! To live in fear of retaliation because of this is indeed the culprit of many emotionally unstable behaviors in society!
I believe our Government is full of knowledge and vigilance over these events and will do their best as far as human agency can against the evil's promoted by terrorist and their followers!
May God give America and her Government His grace and direction in this fight against terrorism!!!0 -
I agree with this 100%. I can't believe that happened, it's such a terrible tragedy.
I personally think that the celebrations are overkill. I am happy that the threat of Bin Laden is gone, I am happy that we don't have to worry about him anymore. But we can have tact about it, it is still a lost life. As much as I'd like to celebrate his death, I have to think about how I would like our men and women treated at the hands of the enemy. I do not see our people as terrorists, but it's possible that others do and would defile and make a mockery of our people and that would be entirely heartbreaking. This is a great country and should lead by example.
I don't like that everyone immediately jumped into "See?! Obama cleaned up another one of Bush's messes!" The guy got a tip, he followed it, and American troops killed a known and hunted terrorist. I don't think the man deserves a medal. I'd have said the same thing had this happened 10 years ago.
My political views seem to mesh more with what freerange said....I'm scared more about the reaction of this country than the reaction of other countries. I don't want America to be viewed as cowardly, weak, or submissive. THAT is scarier than anything to me. We are more at risk for attack, regardless of motivation, when it appears we will cower and beg for mercy rather than fight back. This is a great nation full of amazing, brave, strong men and women and I am tired of people in power making it look like we are more than happy to bend over and take whatever anyone else thinks we deserve.
Beautifully said.0 -
We officially need more Chuck Norris and less political, religious and other BS in MFP.
I should have stayed away from this thread...0 -
Big up to USA troops on finally tracking him down and "removing the threat", but I fear what will come next, we will never be free from terrorism in some form or another. These people are too stupid and naive to realise it's never gonna solve anything.
Respect to Obama and the troops tho 0 -
No, I believe a week ago, President Obama decided to carry out the operation. The operation itself occured yesterday.
I have re-watched it, and while there may be merit to that explanation, I can also interpret it to mean they launched the operation a week ago, but have waited to announce until there was confirmation.
Is there another source that can clear this up?
Also, what started this was the claim that Hitler died on 5/1. Wiki has his death date as 4/30. Anyone?0
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