I have to ask, how do you feel about the Osama news??
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Lets not forget it was our military who did this not our president. Our president merely gave permission to attack.
Amen!!!!!
At least THIS president was in the right country this time.
what are you even talking about? On 9/11/01, President Bush was in a classroom reading to children when his aide came in and told him, "Mr. President, the country is under attack." He finished up quickly and excused himself. He was most certainly NOT in another country. Facts, please.
i'm pretty sure they meant after the attack he went after the wrong country0 -
Muslim culture (like Jewish) they have to bury a body in a day.
why are we concerned with respecting the culture of the dead terrorist!?
There are codes of conduct, even in war.
our enemies do not respect such codes. I do not find them to be necessary either.
I think treating the body in any particular way to "respect the culture" is merely an action based on fear. Fear that if we don't, they will jihad all over us. That is what I object to.
I get what you're saying. However, we are country founded on religious freedom which is one of the things terrorists oppose to.
By honoring those codes or even respecting their religion, we ARE proving a strong point.0 -
quoted from above
i'm pretty sure they meant after the attack he went after the wrong country
my 2 cents
I think the point was, we didnt know what country he was in and it took intelligence measures that began in 2005 to actually find a way to find him and make a strategy.... no war happens in a day, no victory or defeat takes a day. Again, I think we have the troops to thank for our freedom!0 -
i'm pretty sure they meant after the attack he went after the wrong country
two totally different situations.
He used 9/11 to get support for our invasion of Iraq, but 9/11 had nothing to do with the Iraq war.
Scared people supported the war because they were misinformed and afraid of "terrorists".0 -
I think it is great! But I also think it is typical that yesterday one version of the story was released and this morning a totally different version of the story is out there.0
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I think it is great! But I also think it is typical that yesterday one version of the story was released and this morning a totally different version of the story is out there.
What exactly are you referring to?0 -
yesterday, it was a bomb that killed him....today, a single shot to the head
yesterday, he was to be brought back to the US......today, dumped in the ocean.
these are just small inconsistencies, as with most developing stories, but it will provide fodder for anyone who wishes to see more in the sequence of info released...0 -
I'd like to congratulate Mr Obama on his re-election.0
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I hear Osama's body was buried at sea or lost at sea (haven't read all the details) I hate when the US gov't does something but has no proof, not cool.
Either way this will probably help Obama win the next election.
I have not decided on how I feel yet...I dont trust our government enough to actually be celebratory about this. Buried at sea really?? Ummm ok. So if the operation was confidential and the body was buried at sea did it really even happen... sorry I am not into conspiracies but this is weird if you ask me....and all of a sudden since the death of him the gas goes down 2% and the stock market goes up...per the news...ummm someone please explain that one to me....0 -
I have not decided on how I feel yet...I dont trust our government enough to actually be celebratory about this. Buried at sea really?? Ummm ok. So if the operation was confidential and the body was buried at sea did it really even happen... sorry I am not into conspiracies but this is weird if you ask me....and all of a sudden since the death of him the gas goes down 2% and the stock market goes up...per the news...ummm someone please explain that one to me....
agreed.0 -
I'd like to congratulate Mr Obama on his re-election.
let's hope the election is based on more than just one thing.0 -
I'd like to congratulate Mr Obama on his re-election.
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I hear Osama's body was buried at sea or lost at sea (haven't read all the details) I hate when the US gov't does something but has no proof, not cool.
Either way this will probably help Obama win the next election.
I have not decided on how I feel yet...I dont trust our government enough to actually be celebratory about this. Buried at sea really?? Ummm ok. So if the operation was confidential and the body was buried at sea did it really even happen... sorry I am not into conspiracies but this is weird if you ask me....and all of a sudden since the death of him the gas goes down 2% and the stock market goes up...per the news...ummm someone please explain that one to me....
Wait, what? Gas went down?0 -
I hear Osama's body was buried at sea or lost at sea (haven't read all the details) I hate when the US gov't does something but has no proof, not cool.
Either way this will probably help Obama win the next election.
I have not decided on how I feel yet...I dont trust our government enough to actually be celebratory about this. Buried at sea really?? Ummm ok. So if the operation was confidential and the body was buried at sea did it really even happen... sorry I am not into conspiracies but this is weird if you ask me....and all of a sudden since the death of him the gas goes down 2% and the stock market goes up...per the news...ummm someone please explain that one to me....
Wait, what? Gas went down?
price per barrel went down. Our cost at the pump won't. Even though the demand has dropped, and barrel price has dropped, the artificial economic setting we are in won't allow the prices to tumble, so don't expect it. When it comes back down, (my prediction is around August 2012 they will start dropping again) it will come down very gradually.0 -
I'm thinking I would like to see the body for proof. I am wondering why they didn't keep him for interrogation. I know nothing about politics, but I have many unanswered questions. How did they get the DNA evidence so fast if it just happened yesterday??0
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I'm thinking I would like to see the body for proof. I am wondering why they didn't keep him for interrogation. I know nothing about politics, but I have many unanswered questions. How did they get the DNA evidence so fast if it just happened yesterday??
all excellent questions.
the "official story" is:
he was offered a chance to surrender, refused, and ended up shot in the head. No chance at interrogation.
DNA confirmation is still pending, but they have done facial recognition, etc.0 -
GOD BLESS AMERICAN AND OUR TROOPS!!
Happy that friends and families of those lost at war and in 9/11 will get some type of closure and hopefully this will boost everyone's morale, but also like most everyone else..scared about what may or may not come.0 -
I AM GLAD! I am celebrating! I don't care if some people think that I am wrong. Hip Hip Hurray! :drinker:0
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all excellent questions.
the "official story" is:
he was offered a chance to surrender, refused, and ended up shot in the head. No chance at interrogation.
DNA confirmation is still pending, but they have done facial recognition, etc.
exactly.
1. if they wanted him for interrogation they wouldn't taken in some type of weapon to disable him without killing him. be it tazers or riot control guns.
2. I think fox said DNA test was confirmed
I just have a hard time believing our government.0 -
all excellent questions.
the "official story" is:
he was offered a chance to surrender, refused, and ended up shot in the head. No chance at interrogation.
DNA confirmation is still pending, but they have done facial recognition, etc.
exactly.
1. if they wanted him for interrogation they wouldn't taken in some type of weapon to disable him without killing him. be it tazers or riot control guns.
2. I think fox said DNA test was confirmed
I just have a hard time believing our government.
Yea sorry huge skeptic!! Our government has been screwing us for decades now....and we have nothing but corruption so I can not bite yet...sorry everyone that is celebrating. I hope to be proven incorrect and can join...but until then I am keeping my distance.0 -
One of my college professors worded it this way:
There should be a place of sadness in the heart of every believer that Bin Laden and many like him never knew the saving grace of our Lord Jesus. Regardless of one's views of war and military participation, no Christ follower should revel in violent means of justice. May God's shalom prevail in all places high and low, and may his mighty presence descend for the healing of the nations.
Really hard to remember this verse right now...
"Do not rejoice when your enemy falls, and let not your heart be glad when he stumbles." Proverbs 24:17
Part of me celebrates, part of me mourns.
God bless the Professor who said this- it is very true. It is also very hard to accept that the Lord asks that we do not rejoice when you think of OBL death when you recall all the horror he put people through. Still there is healing in the Lord for those who mourn- more so then in OBL's death. I do not rejoice in it, but my heart still cries out for those who are lost and loved ones left behind- but many of them are right now dancing on streets that are golden and not over the death of OBL but over the love of Christ. We also wonder what kind of retaliation is coming so pray for our troop and for our country!0 -
I feel it is a long time coming for this justice to be served! I am thankful that we have one less terrorist among us on this earth! That does not mean that there are not more, it just means we have stood up to a terrorist and are sending the message to the world that we will continue to and always will fight terrorism! It says we are not cowards and we will fight for what is right and what is good!
This pang of conscience about celebrating an evil man's death that seems to fill many of our fellow humans is an interesting dynamic of fear! The Karma Factor is an interesting motivator toward humane behavior in some cases but, for many it does not seem to phase them and that includes terrorist who do their evil deeds without thought for the consequences that justice will visit on them. Fear is the enemy not the action of justice nor the celebration of victory! To live in fear of retaliation because of this is indeed the culprit of many emotionally unstable behaviors in society!
I believe our Government is full of knowledge and vigilance over these events and will do their best as far as human agency can against the evil's promoted by terrorist and their followers!
May God give America and her Government His grace and direction in this fight against terrorism!!!
It is not about fear it is about being realistic. There will be retaliations and it would be short sighted to ignore that factor- true evil exists and I would rather be aware of it and the threat of it then be blindsided when it comes knocking on our door.0 -
hahahahaha- no kiddingI'd like to congratulate Mr Obama on his re-election.0 -
While my spiritual beliefs make it difficult for me to rejoice in death, as others have stated, when I look at the lives of those who have died and the daily continued suffering of their family and friends who live on it is hard not to rejoice that he is no longer living.
I too believe that while human life is sacred, that there is something to what my father, who was a Marine and a true blooded American who fought on foreign soil, had once told me. If one death can save 100 lives, then we have to make peace with that. In this case, there are untold number of lives who may have been saved. Yes, I feel that we will see splinter cells and possible retributions world wide and on American soil once again, but I also know that scripture quotes an eye for an eye so I have to feel in some way judgment has been served.
That said, I hope that these reports are true. Watching the coming together of our country last night and this morning has given me a sense of pride in our Country and fellow Americans that I think has been sorely lacking of late.0 -
While my spiritual beliefs make it difficult for me to rejoice in death, as others have stated, when I look at the lives of those who have died and the daily continued suffering of their family and friends who live on it is hard not to rejoice that he is no longer living.
I too believe that while human life is sacred, that there is something to what my father, who was a Marine and a true blooded American who fought on foreign soil, had once told me. If one death can save 100 lives, then we have to make peace with that. In this case, there are untold number of lives who may have been saved. Yes, I feel that we will see splinter cells and possible retributions world wide and on American soil once again, but I also know that scripture quotes an eye for an eye so I have to feel in some way judgment has been served.
That said, I hope that these reports are true. Watching the coming together of our country last night and this morning has given me a sense of pride in our Country and fellow Americans that I think has been sorely lacking of late.
^^^ Agree!0 -
Yea sorry huge skeptic!! Our government has been screwing us for decades now....and we have nothing but corruption so I can not bite yet...sorry everyone that is celebrating. I hope to be proven incorrect and can join...but until then I am keeping my distance.
Agreed. Seems like I recall being a young teenager, and watching a man on the tv telling the nation that he knew for a fact that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction.
Even at that age I knew our country was doing something wrong, and that it was going to be a huge mistake. Not saying that in hindsight.0 -
I just feel
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Lets not forget it was our military who did this not our president. Our president merely gave permission to attack.
Both work hand in hand, if President doesn't give the orders then troops don't take actions.0 -
Lets not forget it was our military who did this not our president. Our president merely gave permission to attack.
Both work hand in hand, if President doesn't give the orders then troops don't take actions.
Naw, I guess they would like to believe that the military operates without executive order.0 -
Lets not forget it was our military who did this not our president. Our president merely gave permission to attack.
Both work hand in hand, if President doesn't give the orders then troops don't take actions.
Thank you, pretty sure he said last night that they were working together on this.0
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