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My arms are skinny--increase volume?
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You do realize people who are on gear still work about 10x harder than the people who aren't.
Secondly
exactly
you didn't know- but you assumed anyway.
But I digress... carry on offering your life expert advice.
We are all ears.
I'm all ears, because you are the expert, you have the most post, you are the world class power lifter.... I'm going to "assume" you look like the Ms physique Olympia, but with world class powerlifter's strength
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You do realize that synthol is not gear right? Jo rocka I thought we were cool, you know you are on my friends list right?
Gear has been mentioned in addition to Synthol.
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LolBroScience wrote: »
Gear has been mentioned in addition to Synthol.
Yes ,but She quoted my comment on synthol; I didn't say a word about AAS.... Why are people talking *kitten* about my post but not about this jerk who's talking about synthol, and not adding anything productive to the thread, wtf?0 -
I'm all ears, because you are the expert, you have the most post, you are the world class power lifter.... I'm going to "assume" you look like the Ms physique Olympia, but with world class powerlifter's strength
What does that have to do with anything? You made a blanket statement without knowing anything about the individuals programming, or lifestyle.
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She's on my friends list, I can see what she eats..LolBroScience wrote: »
What does that have to do with anything? You made a blanket statement without knowing anything about the individuals programming, or lifestyle.0 -
^^ Yeah, I don't get why everyone seems to be after you but yet that other person got off the hook.0
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She's on my friends list, I can see what she eats..
No. Your recommendation towards the OP, without knowing anything about her programming, lifestyle etc, not Jo.0 -
ForecasterJason wrote: »^^ Yeah, I don't get why everyone seems to be after you but yet that other person got off the hook.
I don't know, maybe they don't like my face lol; If they don't agree with my advice... They could simply say, don't listen to Caesar, Its not good advice, that's fine. Its your opinion. There are people who are buddies and like to gang up on people...0 -
Its just advice she could do whatever the Fock she wants to do!LolBroScience wrote: »
No. Your recommendation towards the OP, without knowing anything about her programming, lifestyle etc, not Jo.
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I don't know, maybe they don't like my face lol; If they don't agree with my advice... They could simply say, don't listen to Caesar, Its not good advice, that's fine. Its your opinion. There are people who are buddies and like to gang up on people...
Actually, I thought your advice was pretty standard for a building program but she is on a power program so it wouldn't work. I think you kind of wonder into the woods when you seemed to be saying my arms are bigger than yours. Reading it again I think that wasn't what you were trying to say but that's what it seemed like at first.
Why synthoil guy got off, well I think we all just assume he was trolling you so we ignored him.0 -
A mere suggestion, that is all...damn..0
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Wheelhouse15 wrote: »
Actually, I thought your advice was pretty standard for a building program but she is on a power program so it wouldn't work. I think you kind of wonder into the woods when you seemed to be saying my arms are bigger than yours. Reading it again I think that wasn't what you were trying to say but that's what it seemed like at first.
Why synthoil guy got off, well I think we all just assume he was trolling you so we ignored him.
That's fine...maybe her goals are skewed... She wants to build strength, but is worried about the size of her arms? Power lifters(most) don't care about their appearance... It could be a genetic factor, because your arms should grow if you are getting stronger in lifts like presses , deadlifts and pull ups, considering your diet is on point..
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A mere suggestion, that is all...damn..
It does seem to be a misunderstanding in my view since you thought she was trying to build and didn't understand the 531 program she was on. I think it's just time to let it go at that.
To OP, as you know I do the same program but I've decided this week to add a bi/forearm day to my abs after the leg day. I'll let you know how that works but since you hit your tris two days and bis only once I thought I would give it a try.0 -
I thought she is trying to bulk. http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10022902/how-do-you-trust-the-process/p1Wheelhouse15 wrote: »
It does seem to be a misunderstanding in my view since you thought she was trying to build and didn't understand the 531 program she was on. I think it's just time to let it go at that.
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Wheelhouse15 wrote: »
It does seem to be a misunderstanding in my view since you thought she was trying to build and didn't understand the 531 program she was on. I think it's just time to let it go at that.
To OP, as you know I do the same program but I've decided this week to add a bi/forearm day to my abs after the leg day. I'll let you know how that works but since you hit your tris two days and bis only once I thought I would give it a try.
Your obviously a nice person, you can disagree with me without trying to make me feel like an ignorant idiot... You are right, I don't know much about this program, but my point the bicep and triceps are not large muscles, it doesn't take much time to blast them hard, I just don't see how this would interfere with that program..
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Wheelhouse15 wrote: »
It does seem to be a misunderstanding in my view since you thought she was trying to build and didn't understand the 531 program she was on. I think it's just time to let it go at that.
To OP, as you know I do the same program but I've decided this week to add a bi/forearm day to my abs after the leg day. I'll let you know how that works but since you hit your tris two days and bis only once I thought I would give it a try.When did I complain about having skinny arms? Lol. My goal is not to have 19 1/2" arms. My goal is remain lean and be strong. I have no problems with those goals.
You can keep your bro splits.
Bro splits? What does that mean lol... Good luck with your goals, whatever they may be...this thread is not about your goals though; the Op wants bigger arms, I thought I could help.. If you wanted financial advice would you ask a millionaire or a poor person?0 -
ForecasterJason wrote: »I thought she is trying to bulk. http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10022902/how-do-you-trust-the-process/p1
Correct, but bulking doesn't just mean for building. I think she is on a combination (power building) but her program is primarily a power program so it's not meant for a true builder. This is one of the reasons why she is asking about her arm size since power programs are not big on biceps development.
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She complained about having skinny arms, I never said you did. People are so self centered, they think everything said is about them... Its in the fukin title of the thread...When did I complain about having skinny arms? Lol. My goal is not to have 19 1/2" arms. My goal is remain lean and be strong. I have no problems with those goals.
You can keep your bro splits.
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Your obviously a nice person, you can disagree with me without trying to make me feel like an ignorant idiot... You are right, I don't know much about this program, but my point the bicep and triceps are not large muscles, it doesn't take much time to blast them hard, I just don't see how this would interfere with that program..
It may not in reality but 531 is a four day, push/pull/lower split so you would have to be careful how you position a pure arms day. The split is push, pull, rest, push, leg, rest, rest. This means it would be hard to put triceps into any other day without interfering with one of the push days (assuming 48 hours rest required). Biceps can be put in on the 2nd rest day and not interfere so this is what I am trying. I wouldn't want to do triceps on a 3rd day so I work them on both push days.
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Wheelhouse15 wrote: »
It may not in reality but 531 is a four day, push/pull/lower split so you would have to be careful how you position a pure arms day. The split is push, pull, rest, push, leg, rest, rest. This means it would be hard to put triceps into any other day without interfering with one of the push days (assuming 48 hours rest required). Biceps can be put in on the 2nd rest day and not interfere so this is what I am trying. I wouldn't want to do triceps on a 3rd day so I work them on both push days.
Does this make sense?
You do need proper recovery, I guess you could add a bicep exercise or two on your pull day, and a triceps exercise on her push days.. I don't think it would interfere if she did the arm workout on
Saturday morning.. Maybe at first, but she will get accustomed to it after a while, the body can adapt.
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It was a legitimate recommendation when I made the suggestion of synthol. There was no mention of "how" the op was going to achieve her goal. Her suggested goal could be achieved in numerous ways as it is neither specific, measurable, realistic nor timely. Therefore, poor response to a poorly set goal 0
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You do need proper recovery, I guess you could add a bicep exercise or two on your pull day, and a triceps exercise on her push days.. I don't think it would interfere if she did the arm workout on
Saturday morning.. Maybe at first, but she will get accustomed to it after a while, the body can adapt.
True, it might be something she can try. She can read and respond tomorrow I don't want to speak for her but it might be an idea. I might try it next week and see what happens. I already work bisceps on my pull days so that gives me 2 bi/forearm and 2 tri but triceps can generally handle a bigger load. As long as it doesn't interfere with the bench it should work.0 -
It was a legitimate recommendation when I made the suggestion of synthol. There was no mention of "how" the op was going to achieve her goal. Her suggested goal could be achieved in numerous ways as it is neither specific, measurable, realistic nor timely. Therefore, poor response to a poorly set goal
lol, ok got it.0 -
Wheelhouse15 wrote: »
True, it might be something she can try. She can read and respond tomorrow I don't want to speak for her but it might be an idea. I might try it next week and see what happens. I already work bisceps on my pull days so that gives me 2 bi/forearm and 2 tri but triceps can generally handle a bigger load. As long as it doesn't interfere with the bench it should work.
In terms of your argument, what exercise science evidence can you provide that shows that separation of pull/push foundation is more or less beneficial to hypertrophy growth and recovery.
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In terms of your argument, what exercise science evidence can you provide that shows that separation of pull/push foundation is more or less beneficial to hypertrophy growth and recovery.
You didn't actually read my posts or you wouldn't ask me about hypertrophy, now would you?
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Wheelhouse15 wrote: »
True, it might be something she can try. She can read and respond tomorrow I don't want to speak for her but it might be an idea. I might try it next week and see what happens. I already work bisceps on my pull days so that gives me 2 bi/forearm and 2 tri but triceps can generally handle a bigger load. As long as it doesn't interfere with the bench it should work.
I have an exercise I do that I would like to share with you, and everyone else lol.. I think it has helped me with some growth in my biceps; Its basically a dumbbell curl, I start with a moderately heavy pair dumbbells, use a weight that allows you to perform 8-10 reps. What I do is perform 5 reps with a supinated curl, another 5 reps with a neutral curl, basically a regular curl without supinating your wrist like the first 5 reps, and finish the last 5 with a hammer curls.. I guarantee, after a few sets, your biceps and forearms will be pumped like crazy...give it a try, its like a 3 in 1 exercise..0 -
Wheelhouse15 wrote: »
You didn't actually read my posts or you wouldn't ask me about hypertrophy, now would you?
"You do need proper recovery, I guess you could add a bicep exercise or two on your pull day, and a triceps exercise on her push days.. I don't think it would interfere if she did the arm workout on Saturday morning."
I am making an inference on your previous statement on the separation of pull/ push exercises. I am assuming that you believe that rest time is necessary between the two forms, but what evidence proves such a statement. I am just curious, not necessarily trolling you or anything like that
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