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christinev297 wrote: »You know what I mean. I don't live there so have no clue. I've just seen it many many times in American movies. No insurance == No care. So assumed it was the normal way things worked over there....
Doctors can't refuse someone treatment based on someones insurance. In my experience, ER docs don't even really know what type of insurance someone has until treatment has already been given.. Primary care doctors don't have to participate in certain insurance plans, though.
Thank you for explaining
That sounds much better.
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christinev297 wrote: »christinev297 wrote: »You know what I mean. I don't live there so have no clue. I've just seen it many many times in American movies. No insurance == No care. So assumed it was the normal way things worked over there....
Doctors can't refuse someone treatment based on someones insurance. In my experience, ER docs don't even really know what type of insurance someone has until treatment has already been given.. Primary care doctors don't have to participate in certain insurance plans, though.
Thank you for explaining That sounds much better.
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Yup. When I pick someone up and drop them off in the ER I don't ask for insurance until I'm ready to leave the ER.christinev297 wrote: »You know what I mean. I don't live there so have no clue. I've just seen it many many times in American movies. No insurance == No care. So assumed it was the normal way things worked over there....
Doctors can't refuse someone treatment based on someones insurance. In my experience, ER docs don't even really know what type of insurance someone has until treatment has already been given.. Primary care doctors don't have to participate in certain insurance plans, though.
I work in a residential setting as a nurse. When I ship people out to the ER very rarely do I hear an EMT or ER doctor ask about insurance before anything happens.0 -
I vote "Yes" (or "Oui") for poutine. O-M-G, so good (enjoyed a fast food version as well as a fine dining version in Montreal)!
I vote "No" ("Non") for juice cleanse.0 -
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christinev297 wrote: »In Australia we have free healthcare. Most doctors (gp's ) bulk bill too, so you don't have to pay them either.
I see a lot of American movies where hospitals have refused to treat people because they don't have insurance. Is this really how it works in America? ? If so, that's terrible
No hospitals don't refuse care in emergent situations. If the patient is uninsured, the hospital eats that cost. They can and do refuse treatment in non-emergent situations and private practice.
I work at a top Children's hospital and people from across the country have started bringing their children who need heart surgery to the ER when they are critically ill. The hospital admits them as it is deemed an emergency and then once they are a patient, they get the surgery. Then when no one pays...oopsie. Cardiology dept. is out 60k easy.
Also of note my mother is a physician at a women's health private practice. They refuse to take new medicare patients because the insurance reimbursements are so poor. Where are these poor old women to go? This is the problem with healthcare being a BUSINESS. They're trying to make money, incentivizing them to do unnecessary testing and only treat patients with good insurance.
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You don't say.
If you can't save the money necessary to get health care for yourself while you're pregnant, and for the baby when it arrives, how do you expect to pay for that baby? It's going to need food, clothing, toys, school expenses, probably diapers, a bed... Raising a kid is very expensive.$5K to save for having a baby? Nopers, just pop it out!
Sort of like getting a loan. If you need it, you can't get it, or you have to pay exhorbitant rate. If you don't need it, you can get it, and at a very low rate.you don't make enough so you have to pay more? Seems backwards
Of course a kid is expensive, what I was referring to was another fee added ontop of what you have planned/saved to go to the hospital to have said baby. Big difference.
And gotcha, seeing it as a loan makes more sense!
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terricherry2 wrote: »A bit off topic (sorry OP) but after reading opinions from presumably people from the US, I have to say that you generally sound like many of you have been seriously misinformed about state health care in socialist countries. In the UK (where I am) I've never had to wait 6 months to see a specialist, as several people have stated. If we want a second opinion we are entitled to get one, or even ten if we choose! We can also choose where and who to be treated by and are treated according to urgency rather than how much money we have. And as statistically one of the top healthcare systems in the world (clinical outcomes, quality of care etc) although there is always room for improvement, our per capita spend on healthcare is still around 10% of what the US spends.
Apologies, I don't have the links to hand for you to read this yourselves. But I would have thought that in a highly educated western country, more people would question the scare mongering tactics of those relying on the biggest money making industry you have for thier millions, when they tell you how social healthcare provision would take you back to the dark ages.
And for those essentially saying it's every man for themselves, I hope you are never in the unfortunate position of being unable to provide for yourselves and your families through no fault of your own like so many others.
I agree with you 100%, and I'm from the U.S.
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You don't say.
If you can't save the money necessary to get health care for yourself while you're pregnant, and for the baby when it arrives, how do you expect to pay for that baby? It's going to need food, clothing, toys, school expenses, probably diapers, a bed... Raising a kid is very expensive.$5K to save for having a baby? Nopers, just pop it out!
Sort of like getting a loan. If you need it, you can't get it, or you have to pay exhorbitant rate. If you don't need it, you can get it, and at a very low rate.you don't make enough so you have to pay more? Seems backwards
Of course a kid is expensive, what I was referring to was another fee added ontop of what you have planned/saved to go to the hospital to have said baby. Big difference.
And gotcha, seeing it as a loan makes more sense!
And you make that fee up in tax savings....
It all depends on how you want to look at it.
Yet to walk out of the hospital with a "bill" for my kid that wasn't picked up.
Side note: Am I the only one surprised with how derailed this thread is that it hasn't been closed.
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Nope, totally get it's the "same" amount "ish", just nice not paying up front and getting it taken off automatically and not thinking about it.
You don't say.
If you can't save the money necessary to get health care for yourself while you're pregnant, and for the baby when it arrives, how do you expect to pay for that baby? It's going to need food, clothing, toys, school expenses, probably diapers, a bed... Raising a kid is very expensive.$5K to save for having a baby? Nopers, just pop it out!
Sort of like getting a loan. If you need it, you can't get it, or you have to pay exhorbitant rate. If you don't need it, you can get it, and at a very low rate.you don't make enough so you have to pay more? Seems backwards
Of course a kid is expensive, what I was referring to was another fee added ontop of what you have planned/saved to go to the hospital to have said baby. Big difference.
And gotcha, seeing it as a loan makes more sense!
And you make that fee up in tax savings....
It all depends on how you want to look at it.
Yet to walk out of the hospital with a "bill" for my kid that wasn't picked up.
Side note: Am I the only one surprised with how derailed this thread is that it hasn't been closed.
My thoughts too, surprised it wasn't locked.
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Nope, totally get it's the "same" amount "ish", just nice not paying up front and getting it taken off automatically and not thinking about it.
You don't say.
If you can't save the money necessary to get health care for yourself while you're pregnant, and for the baby when it arrives, how do you expect to pay for that baby? It's going to need food, clothing, toys, school expenses, probably diapers, a bed... Raising a kid is very expensive.$5K to save for having a baby? Nopers, just pop it out!
Sort of like getting a loan. If you need it, you can't get it, or you have to pay exhorbitant rate. If you don't need it, you can get it, and at a very low rate.you don't make enough so you have to pay more? Seems backwards
Of course a kid is expensive, what I was referring to was another fee added ontop of what you have planned/saved to go to the hospital to have said baby. Big difference.
And gotcha, seeing it as a loan makes more sense!
And you make that fee up in tax savings....
It all depends on how you want to look at it.
Yet to walk out of the hospital with a "bill" for my kid that wasn't picked up.
Side note: Am I the only one surprised with how derailed this thread is that it hasn't been closed.
My thoughts too, surprised it wasn't locked.
Who pays "up front"? Are there people who actually do that? I've never paid up front for any medical service. That's what my insurance is for.
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Taylor_Bride_to_Be wrote: »Wow, you got such a better reaction then when I asked. I asked about detox water recipes and got ripped a new *kitten*.
The OP didn't go around cursing everyone out like someone.
Neither did I until after I was provoked.0
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