No time for exercising
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I know one girl who showjumps to a high level who actually thought horses shoes already had jumping studs in them!!Yeah, you don't get to an All-Europe showjumping competition without a strong core, for crying out loud.
Unless it's some "vanity" competition with ridiculous entry fees (like a Toddlers and Tiaras competition for Euros), you are going to have SERIOUS core strength and a healthy lower back if you can legit compete in equestrian events.
And, seriously, even royalty is expected to "build character" by mucking out stalls.
because not only had she never studded up in her life she had never actually tacked up!! 
she had always had the horse just handed to her!!
LOL, crazy. Everyone I've ever known from real "old money" style wealth has had to do serious nasty chores and brutal summer "camps" to "toughen them up." Are these all pampered nouveau riches that get coddled like this? because, dayum. I went to college with some Presidential relatives, etc....there was all manner of "hike the mountain to have empathy with the poors" BS going on. No "take the pretty horsie and ride" BS.
But, even if you aren't doing upkeep work...show jumping takes CORE. I did show jumping at a low level. If you have a weak core, you BY DEFINITION will be a terrible show jumper. How does someone get to an all-Europe competition with a weak core?
By making it up?0 -
Riding is all core work in fairness to my little sister she spent far too much time riding to actually have time to muck them out!! Like I said I am not bitter!! she has a 6 pack through just riding!! She jumps against all the big names I hope one day she makes it to the Olympics she has the talent and is brave.. She is also in the top 50 young riders rankings British showjumping 33rd last time I bothered to check!!
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I know one girl who showjumps to a high level who actually thought horses shoes already had jumping studs in them!!Yeah, you don't get to an All-Europe showjumping competition without a strong core, for crying out loud.
Unless it's some "vanity" competition with ridiculous entry fees (like a Toddlers and Tiaras competition for Euros), you are going to have SERIOUS core strength and a healthy lower back if you can legit compete in equestrian events.
And, seriously, even royalty is expected to "build character" by mucking out stalls. because not only had she never studded up in her life she had never actually tacked up!! she had always had the horse just handed to her!!
LOL, crazy. Everyone I've ever known from real "old money" style wealth has had to do serious nasty chores and brutal summer "camps" to "toughen them up." Are these all pampered nouveau riches that get coddled like this? because, dayum. I went to college with some Presidential relatives, etc....there was all manner of "hike the mountain to have empathy with the poors" BS going on. No "take the pretty horsie and ride" BS.
But, even if you aren't doing upkeep work...show jumping takes CORE. I did show jumping at a low level. If you have a weak core, you BY DEFINITION will be a terrible show jumper. How does someone get to an all-Europe competition with a weak core?
By making it up?
... or by compensating in a way that might be damaging to knees or hips?0 -
I know one girl who showjumps to a high level who actually thought horses shoes already had jumping studs in them!!Yeah, you don't get to an All-Europe showjumping competition without a strong core, for crying out loud.
Unless it's some "vanity" competition with ridiculous entry fees (like a Toddlers and Tiaras competition for Euros), you are going to have SERIOUS core strength and a healthy lower back if you can legit compete in equestrian events.
And, seriously, even royalty is expected to "build character" by mucking out stalls. because not only had she never studded up in her life she had never actually tacked up!! she had always had the horse just handed to her!!
LOL, crazy. Everyone I've ever known from real "old money" style wealth has had to do serious nasty chores and brutal summer "camps" to "toughen them up." Are these all pampered nouveau riches that get coddled like this? because, dayum. I went to college with some Presidential relatives, etc....there was all manner of "hike the mountain to have empathy with the poors" BS going on. No "take the pretty horsie and ride" BS.
But, even if you aren't doing upkeep work...show jumping takes CORE. I did show jumping at a low level. If you have a weak core, you BY DEFINITION will be a terrible show jumper. How does someone get to an all-Europe competition with a weak core?
By making it up?
Don't have to.
Dutch riding school education sends out their students to big stables
To be fair, you dont have to be an excellent rider these days.
I had them at my stable/riding school and some of them were even afraid for a horse. Let alone they could ride a horse pretty decent.
But that must be the fact that i am old school and believe that they have to mug out stables too hehehe
But yes a lot of girls make things up too. And there is a huge group who think that they will make it in the horse world. But reality is that this is only for some really though athletics. Riders who train their horses every day, who bike and run ( cardio) for being fit.
Been there done that. For more than 46 years!
And teaching and coaching and judging for more than 30 years.
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Maybe start by finding time Saturdays ands Sundays when u don't have school and go from there?0
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Could also ride the horses a bit less and therefore take some time to focus on your health. Seems like your body is in need of some careful attention
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TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: »
I know one girl who showjumps to a high level who actually thought horses shoes already had jumping studs in them!!Yeah, you don't get to an All-Europe showjumping competition without a strong core, for crying out loud.
Unless it's some "vanity" competition with ridiculous entry fees (like a Toddlers and Tiaras competition for Euros), you are going to have SERIOUS core strength and a healthy lower back if you can legit compete in equestrian events.
And, seriously, even royalty is expected to "build character" by mucking out stalls. because not only had she never studded up in her life she had never actually tacked up!! she had always had the horse just handed to her!!
LOL, crazy. Everyone I've ever known from real "old money" style wealth has had to do serious nasty chores and brutal summer "camps" to "toughen them up." Are these all pampered nouveau riches that get coddled like this? because, dayum. I went to college with some Presidential relatives, etc....there was all manner of "hike the mountain to have empathy with the poors" BS going on. No "take the pretty horsie and ride" BS.
But, even if you aren't doing upkeep work...show jumping takes CORE. I did show jumping at a low level. If you have a weak core, you BY DEFINITION will be a terrible show jumper. How does someone get to an all-Europe competition with a weak core?
By making it up?
Don't have to.
Dutch riding school education sends out their students to big stables
To be fair, you dont have to be an excellent rider these days.
I had them at my stable/riding school and some of them were even afraid for a horse. Let alone they could ride a horse pretty decent.
But that must be the fact that i am old school and believe that they have to mug out stables too hehehe
But yes a lot of girls make things up too. And there is a huge group who think that they will make it in the horse world. But reality is that this is only for some really though athletics. Riders who train their horses every day, who bike and run ( cardio) for being fit.
Been there done that. For more than 46 years!
And teaching and coaching and judging for more than 30 years.
See, I think this is why this bothers me. There is a reason that Equestrian events are part of the Olympic games. Because real, legitimate competitors in this field are ATHLETES. They go to the gym, they lift some hardcore weights to strengthen their quads and core....because equestrian is a SPORT. A challenging, demanding, REAL sport. And any outfit that tells pampered kids that they are "competitive" when they are weak? A con job.
Look, OP. You just started talking about "owning horses." Yeay for your parents having money. Yawn. If you are serious about competitive riding, your coach will have you in the gym working on squats and front squats and deadlifts to get your thighs and back where you need to be to compete on even a basic level. If you seriously are in poor condition? Then you need to fire your coach and move your horses to a REAL stable that will have you shoveling poo for hours every day before they let you enter the tack room. That's what REAL equestrian programmes do.0 -
TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: »
I know one girl who showjumps to a high level who actually thought horses shoes already had jumping studs in them!!Yeah, you don't get to an All-Europe showjumping competition without a strong core, for crying out loud.
Unless it's some "vanity" competition with ridiculous entry fees (like a Toddlers and Tiaras competition for Euros), you are going to have SERIOUS core strength and a healthy lower back if you can legit compete in equestrian events.
And, seriously, even royalty is expected to "build character" by mucking out stalls. because not only had she never studded up in her life she had never actually tacked up!! she had always had the horse just handed to her!!
LOL, crazy. Everyone I've ever known from real "old money" style wealth has had to do serious nasty chores and brutal summer "camps" to "toughen them up." Are these all pampered nouveau riches that get coddled like this? because, dayum. I went to college with some Presidential relatives, etc....there was all manner of "hike the mountain to have empathy with the poors" BS going on. No "take the pretty horsie and ride" BS.
But, even if you aren't doing upkeep work...show jumping takes CORE. I did show jumping at a low level. If you have a weak core, you BY DEFINITION will be a terrible show jumper. How does someone get to an all-Europe competition with a weak core?
By making it up?
Don't have to.
Dutch riding school education sends out their students to big stables
To be fair, you dont have to be an excellent rider these days.
I had them at my stable/riding school and some of them were even afraid for a horse. Let alone they could ride a horse pretty decent.
But that must be the fact that i am old school and believe that they have to mug out stables too hehehe
But yes a lot of girls make things up too. And there is a huge group who think that they will make it in the horse world. But reality is that this is only for some really though athletics. Riders who train their horses every day, who bike and run ( cardio) for being fit.
Been there done that. For more than 46 years!
And teaching and coaching and judging for more than 30 years.
See, I think this is why this bothers me. There is a reason that Equestrian events are part of the Olympic games. Because real, legitimate competitors in this field are ATHLETES. They go to the gym, they lift some hardcore weights to strengthen their quads and core....because equestrian is a SPORT. A challenging, demanding, REAL sport. And any outfit that tells pampered kids that they are "competitive" when they are weak? A con job.
Look, OP. You just started talking about "owning horses." Yeay for your parents having money. Yawn. If you are serious about competitive riding, your coach will have you in the gym working on squats and front squats and deadlifts to get your thighs and back where you need to be to compete on even a basic level. If you seriously are in poor condition? Then you need to fire your coach and move your horses to a REAL stable that will have you shoveling poo for hours every day before they let you enter the tack room. That's what REAL equestrian programmes do.
I don't understand what this has to do with the OP's question.0 -
TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: »
I know one girl who showjumps to a high level who actually thought horses shoes already had jumping studs in them!!Yeah, you don't get to an All-Europe showjumping competition without a strong core, for crying out loud.
Unless it's some "vanity" competition with ridiculous entry fees (like a Toddlers and Tiaras competition for Euros), you are going to have SERIOUS core strength and a healthy lower back if you can legit compete in equestrian events.
And, seriously, even royalty is expected to "build character" by mucking out stalls. because not only had she never studded up in her life she had never actually tacked up!! she had always had the horse just handed to her!!
LOL, crazy. Everyone I've ever known from real "old money" style wealth has had to do serious nasty chores and brutal summer "camps" to "toughen them up." Are these all pampered nouveau riches that get coddled like this? because, dayum. I went to college with some Presidential relatives, etc....there was all manner of "hike the mountain to have empathy with the poors" BS going on. No "take the pretty horsie and ride" BS.
But, even if you aren't doing upkeep work...show jumping takes CORE. I did show jumping at a low level. If you have a weak core, you BY DEFINITION will be a terrible show jumper. How does someone get to an all-Europe competition with a weak core?
By making it up?
Don't have to.
Dutch riding school education sends out their students to big stables
To be fair, you dont have to be an excellent rider these days.
I had them at my stable/riding school and some of them were even afraid for a horse. Let alone they could ride a horse pretty decent.
But that must be the fact that i am old school and believe that they have to mug out stables too hehehe
But yes a lot of girls make things up too. And there is a huge group who think that they will make it in the horse world. But reality is that this is only for some really though athletics. Riders who train their horses every day, who bike and run ( cardio) for being fit.
Been there done that. For more than 46 years!
And teaching and coaching and judging for more than 30 years.
See, I think this is why this bothers me. There is a reason that Equestrian events are part of the Olympic games. Because real, legitimate competitors in this field are ATHLETES. They go to the gym, they lift some hardcore weights to strengthen their quads and core....because equestrian is a SPORT. A challenging, demanding, REAL sport. And any outfit that tells pampered kids that they are "competitive" when they are weak? A con job.
Look, OP. You just started talking about "owning horses." Yeay for your parents having money. Yawn. If you are serious about competitive riding, your coach will have you in the gym working on squats and front squats and deadlifts to get your thighs and back where you need to be to compete on even a basic level. If you seriously are in poor condition? Then you need to fire your coach and move your horses to a REAL stable that will have you shoveling poo for hours every day before they let you enter the tack room. That's what REAL equestrian programmes do.
I don't understand what this has to do with the OP's question.
Ops question is about how she can't work out because she spends HOURS of every day doing what SHOULD BE A WORKOUT.
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TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: »
I know one girl who showjumps to a high level who actually thought horses shoes already had jumping studs in them!!Yeah, you don't get to an All-Europe showjumping competition without a strong core, for crying out loud.
Unless it's some "vanity" competition with ridiculous entry fees (like a Toddlers and Tiaras competition for Euros), you are going to have SERIOUS core strength and a healthy lower back if you can legit compete in equestrian events.
And, seriously, even royalty is expected to "build character" by mucking out stalls. because not only had she never studded up in her life she had never actually tacked up!! she had always had the horse just handed to her!!
LOL, crazy. Everyone I've ever known from real "old money" style wealth has had to do serious nasty chores and brutal summer "camps" to "toughen them up." Are these all pampered nouveau riches that get coddled like this? because, dayum. I went to college with some Presidential relatives, etc....there was all manner of "hike the mountain to have empathy with the poors" BS going on. No "take the pretty horsie and ride" BS.
But, even if you aren't doing upkeep work...show jumping takes CORE. I did show jumping at a low level. If you have a weak core, you BY DEFINITION will be a terrible show jumper. How does someone get to an all-Europe competition with a weak core?
By making it up?
Don't have to.
Dutch riding school education sends out their students to big stables
To be fair, you dont have to be an excellent rider these days.
I had them at my stable/riding school and some of them were even afraid for a horse. Let alone they could ride a horse pretty decent.
But that must be the fact that i am old school and believe that they have to mug out stables too hehehe
But yes a lot of girls make things up too. And there is a huge group who think that they will make it in the horse world. But reality is that this is only for some really though athletics. Riders who train their horses every day, who bike and run ( cardio) for being fit.
Been there done that. For more than 46 years!
And teaching and coaching and judging for more than 30 years.
See, I think this is why this bothers me. There is a reason that Equestrian events are part of the Olympic games. Because real, legitimate competitors in this field are ATHLETES. They go to the gym, they lift some hardcore weights to strengthen their quads and core....because equestrian is a SPORT. A challenging, demanding, REAL sport. And any outfit that tells pampered kids that they are "competitive" when they are weak? A con job.
Look, OP. You just started talking about "owning horses." Yeay for your parents having money. Yawn. If you are serious about competitive riding, your coach will have you in the gym working on squats and front squats and deadlifts to get your thighs and back where you need to be to compete on even a basic level. If you seriously are in poor condition? Then you need to fire your coach and move your horses to a REAL stable that will have you shoveling poo for hours every day before they let you enter the tack room. That's what REAL equestrian programmes do.
I don't understand what this has to do with the OP's question.
Ops question is about how she can't work out because she spends HOURS of every day doing what SHOULD BE A WORKOUT.
indeed
Horse riding IS exercise and on higher levels a very hard and good exercise
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TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: »
I know one girl who showjumps to a high level who actually thought horses shoes already had jumping studs in them!!Yeah, you don't get to an All-Europe showjumping competition without a strong core, for crying out loud.
Unless it's some "vanity" competition with ridiculous entry fees (like a Toddlers and Tiaras competition for Euros), you are going to have SERIOUS core strength and a healthy lower back if you can legit compete in equestrian events.
And, seriously, even royalty is expected to "build character" by mucking out stalls. because not only had she never studded up in her life she had never actually tacked up!! she had always had the horse just handed to her!!
LOL, crazy. Everyone I've ever known from real "old money" style wealth has had to do serious nasty chores and brutal summer "camps" to "toughen them up." Are these all pampered nouveau riches that get coddled like this? because, dayum. I went to college with some Presidential relatives, etc....there was all manner of "hike the mountain to have empathy with the poors" BS going on. No "take the pretty horsie and ride" BS.
But, even if you aren't doing upkeep work...show jumping takes CORE. I did show jumping at a low level. If you have a weak core, you BY DEFINITION will be a terrible show jumper. How does someone get to an all-Europe competition with a weak core?
By making it up?
Don't have to.
Dutch riding school education sends out their students to big stables
To be fair, you dont have to be an excellent rider these days.
I had them at my stable/riding school and some of them were even afraid for a horse. Let alone they could ride a horse pretty decent.
But that must be the fact that i am old school and believe that they have to mug out stables too hehehe
But yes a lot of girls make things up too. And there is a huge group who think that they will make it in the horse world. But reality is that this is only for some really though athletics. Riders who train their horses every day, who bike and run ( cardio) for being fit.
Been there done that. For more than 46 years!
And teaching and coaching and judging for more than 30 years.
See, I think this is why this bothers me. There is a reason that Equestrian events are part of the Olympic games. Because real, legitimate competitors in this field are ATHLETES. They go to the gym, they lift some hardcore weights to strengthen their quads and core....because equestrian is a SPORT. A challenging, demanding, REAL sport. And any outfit that tells pampered kids that they are "competitive" when they are weak? A con job.
Look, OP. You just started talking about "owning horses." Yeay for your parents having money. Yawn. If you are serious about competitive riding, your coach will have you in the gym working on squats and front squats and deadlifts to get your thighs and back where you need to be to compete on even a basic level. If you seriously are in poor condition? Then you need to fire your coach and move your horses to a REAL stable that will have you shoveling poo for hours every day before they let you enter the tack room. That's what REAL equestrian programmes do.
I don't understand what this has to do with the OP's question.
Ops question is about how she can't work out because she spends HOURS of every day doing what SHOULD BE A WORKOUT.
If you read her posts in this thread, you'd see that she is looking to find a way to do strength exercises that are necessary for managing pain.
I don't think it's at all becoming for a grown woman to be all up in a teenager's face about what a "workout" is supposed to be, or riding cred or - who cares, I mean, it's such a weird thing to be up in arms about. Especially when the kid's dislocated her hip, for crying out loud.0 -
TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: »
I know one girl who showjumps to a high level who actually thought horses shoes already had jumping studs in them!!Yeah, you don't get to an All-Europe showjumping competition without a strong core, for crying out loud.
Unless it's some "vanity" competition with ridiculous entry fees (like a Toddlers and Tiaras competition for Euros), you are going to have SERIOUS core strength and a healthy lower back if you can legit compete in equestrian events.
And, seriously, even royalty is expected to "build character" by mucking out stalls. because not only had she never studded up in her life she had never actually tacked up!! she had always had the horse just handed to her!!
LOL, crazy. Everyone I've ever known from real "old money" style wealth has had to do serious nasty chores and brutal summer "camps" to "toughen them up." Are these all pampered nouveau riches that get coddled like this? because, dayum. I went to college with some Presidential relatives, etc....there was all manner of "hike the mountain to have empathy with the poors" BS going on. No "take the pretty horsie and ride" BS.
But, even if you aren't doing upkeep work...show jumping takes CORE. I did show jumping at a low level. If you have a weak core, you BY DEFINITION will be a terrible show jumper. How does someone get to an all-Europe competition with a weak core?
By making it up?
Don't have to.
Dutch riding school education sends out their students to big stables
To be fair, you dont have to be an excellent rider these days.
I had them at my stable/riding school and some of them were even afraid for a horse. Let alone they could ride a horse pretty decent.
But that must be the fact that i am old school and believe that they have to mug out stables too hehehe
But yes a lot of girls make things up too. And there is a huge group who think that they will make it in the horse world. But reality is that this is only for some really though athletics. Riders who train their horses every day, who bike and run ( cardio) for being fit.
Been there done that. For more than 46 years!
And teaching and coaching and judging for more than 30 years.
See, I think this is why this bothers me. There is a reason that Equestrian events are part of the Olympic games. Because real, legitimate competitors in this field are ATHLETES. They go to the gym, they lift some hardcore weights to strengthen their quads and core....because equestrian is a SPORT. A challenging, demanding, REAL sport. And any outfit that tells pampered kids that they are "competitive" when they are weak? A con job.
Look, OP. You just started talking about "owning horses." Yeay for your parents having money. Yawn. If you are serious about competitive riding, your coach will have you in the gym working on squats and front squats and deadlifts to get your thighs and back where you need to be to compete on even a basic level. If you seriously are in poor condition? Then you need to fire your coach and move your horses to a REAL stable that will have you shoveling poo for hours every day before they let you enter the tack room. That's what REAL equestrian programmes do.
I don't understand what this has to do with the OP's question.
Ops question is about how she can't work out because she spends HOURS of every day doing what SHOULD BE A WORKOUT.
If you read her posts in this thread, you'd see that she is looking to find a way to do strength exercises that are necessary for managing pain.
I don't think it's at all becoming for a grown woman to be all up in a teenager's face about what a "workout" is supposed to be, or riding cred or - who cares, I mean, it's such a weird thing to be up in arms about. Especially when the kid's dislocated her hip, for crying out loud.
Ya gotta love the part where handling poop is the only method on the planet to build character
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Thank you everyone. I have seen a sport physio who told me to do some strength training at home but not which ones. I do have a quite strong core and lower back but my upper back is causing me a lot of pain. Horse back riding is a sport but it doesn't matter what kind of sport you do you can still get injuries. I do have hyper mobility which is something that hurts me when I ride because if the horse pulls or anything my arms move a bit forward which hurts a lot when you are hyper mobile. When I was younger I was at a regular stable where I did muck out and stuff but at my new stable you're not aloud to. And my name is not Fred it's just that English speakers don't know how to pronounce it or they think it's ugly.0
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TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: »
I know one girl who showjumps to a high level who actually thought horses shoes already had jumping studs in them!!Yeah, you don't get to an All-Europe showjumping competition without a strong core, for crying out loud.
Unless it's some "vanity" competition with ridiculous entry fees (like a Toddlers and Tiaras competition for Euros), you are going to have SERIOUS core strength and a healthy lower back if you can legit compete in equestrian events.
And, seriously, even royalty is expected to "build character" by mucking out stalls. because not only had she never studded up in her life she had never actually tacked up!! she had always had the horse just handed to her!!
LOL, crazy. Everyone I've ever known from real "old money" style wealth has had to do serious nasty chores and brutal summer "camps" to "toughen them up." Are these all pampered nouveau riches that get coddled like this? because, dayum. I went to college with some Presidential relatives, etc....there was all manner of "hike the mountain to have empathy with the poors" BS going on. No "take the pretty horsie and ride" BS.
But, even if you aren't doing upkeep work...show jumping takes CORE. I did show jumping at a low level. If you have a weak core, you BY DEFINITION will be a terrible show jumper. How does someone get to an all-Europe competition with a weak core?
By making it up?
Don't have to.
Dutch riding school education sends out their students to big stables
To be fair, you dont have to be an excellent rider these days.
I had them at my stable/riding school and some of them were even afraid for a horse. Let alone they could ride a horse pretty decent.
But that must be the fact that i am old school and believe that they have to mug out stables too hehehe
But yes a lot of girls make things up too. And there is a huge group who think that they will make it in the horse world. But reality is that this is only for some really though athletics. Riders who train their horses every day, who bike and run ( cardio) for being fit.
Been there done that. For more than 46 years!
And teaching and coaching and judging for more than 30 years.
See, I think this is why this bothers me. There is a reason that Equestrian events are part of the Olympic games. Because real, legitimate competitors in this field are ATHLETES. They go to the gym, they lift some hardcore weights to strengthen their quads and core....because equestrian is a SPORT. A challenging, demanding, REAL sport. And any outfit that tells pampered kids that they are "competitive" when they are weak? A con job.
Look, OP. You just started talking about "owning horses." Yeay for your parents having money. Yawn. If you are serious about competitive riding, your coach will have you in the gym working on squats and front squats and deadlifts to get your thighs and back where you need to be to compete on even a basic level. If you seriously are in poor condition? Then you need to fire your coach and move your horses to a REAL stable that will have you shoveling poo for hours every day before they let you enter the tack room. That's what REAL equestrian programmes do.
I don't understand what this has to do with the OP's question.
Ops question is about how she can't work out because she spends HOURS of every day doing what SHOULD BE A WORKOUT.
If you read her posts in this thread, you'd see that she is looking to find a way to do strength exercises that are necessary for managing pain.
I don't think it's at all becoming for a grown woman to be all up in a teenager's face about what a "workout" is supposed to be, or riding cred or - who cares, I mean, it's such a weird thing to be up in arms about. Especially when the kid's dislocated her hip, for crying out loud.
Ya gotta love the part where handling poop is the only method on the planet to build character
Yeah, that was also sort of beyond me![:\](https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/resources/emoji/confused.png ":\")
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FredMikmik wrote: »Thank you everyone. I have seen a sport physio who told me to do some strength training at home but not which ones. I do have a quite strong core and lower back but my upper back is causing me a lot of pain. Horse back riding is a sport but it doesn't matter what kind of sport you do you can still get injuries. I do have hyper mobility which is something that hurts me when I ride because if the horse pulls or anything my arms move a bit forward which hurts a lot when you are hyper mobile. When I was younger I was at a regular stable where I did muck out and stuff but at my new stable you're not aloud to. And my name is not Fred it's just that English speakers don't know how to pronounce it or they think it's ugly.
If you're not clear on what your sports physio or any kind of professional has asked you to do or if you need more details, you should ask them questions. By asking someone new who doesn't have enough information about you, they could inadvertently give you advice that is contraindicated to your condition
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FredMikmik wrote: »Thank you everyone. I have seen a sport physio who told me to do some strength training at home but not which ones. I do have a quite strong core and lower back but my upper back is causing me a lot of pain. Horse back riding is a sport but it doesn't matter what kind of sport you do you can still get injuries. I do have hyper mobility which is something that hurts me when I ride because if the horse pulls or anything my arms move a bit forward which hurts a lot when you are hyper mobile. When I was younger I was at a regular stable where I did muck out and stuff but at my new stable you're not aloud to. And my name is not Fred it's just that English speakers don't know how to pronounce it or they think it's ugly.
If you're not clear on what your sports physio or any kind of professional has asked you to do or if you need more details, you should ask them questions. By asking someone new who doesn't have enough information about you, they could inadvertently give you advice that is contraindicated to your condition
100% agree, ask questions. I wish it weren't the case, but sometimes you have to be bold to get the help you need. You're doing a good job here, though 0 -
There are several books on exercises for the equestrian. The Rider's Fitness Program: 74 Exercises & 18 Workouts Specifically Designed for the Equestrian is very good. Yes they will take time but they will add to your strengthening. If you ride in an English style saddle, may I suggest you try the Western Discipline. A 40 lb saddle will definitely give you some muscles. Ground driving is another good way to get some exercise in. 5 squats before you mount up and some other stretches will help be more flexible. Posting without stirrups, yikes, what a workout! LOL! Since you enjoy your horses, work your exercise program around them, you will be amazed at the change in your level of fitness.0
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Buy a kettle bell or find something to use as one. For 12 minutes do 5 burpees, 10 kettle bell swings, and 15 squats. You can YouTube these exercises if they are unfamiliar and ensure you are doing them to maximum benefit. Do as many sets as possible. Each day try to increase the number of sets. If you have 20 minutes add two more exercises. If you have 30 add three. As many sets as possible. Good luck.0
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FredMikmik wrote: »Thank you everyone. I have seen a sport physio who told me to do some strength training at home but not which ones. I do have a quite strong core and lower back but my upper back is causing me a lot of pain. Horse back riding is a sport but it doesn't matter what kind of sport you do you can still get injuries. I do have hyper mobility which is something that hurts me when I ride because if the horse pulls or anything my arms move a bit forward which hurts a lot when you are hyper mobile. When I was younger I was at a regular stable where I did muck out and stuff but at my new stable you're not aloud to. And my name is not Fred it's just that English speakers don't know how to pronounce it or they think it's ugly.
If you're not clear on what your sports physio or any kind of professional has asked you to do or if you need more details, you should ask them questions. By asking someone new who doesn't have enough information about you, they could inadvertently give you advice that is contraindicated to your condition
Thank you I think you're right I need to go to my physio and get som actual exercises!0 -
namelesshere wrote: »There are several books on exercises for the equestrian. The Rider's Fitness Program: 74 Exercises & 18 Workouts Specifically Designed for the Equestrian is very good. Yes they will take time but they will add to your strengthening. If you ride in an English style saddle, may I suggest you try the Western Discipline. A 40 lb saddle will definitely give you some muscles. Ground driving is another good way to get some exercise in. 5 squats before you mount up and some other stretches will help be more flexible. Posting without stirrups, yikes, what a workout! LOL! Since you enjoy your horses, work your exercise program around them, you will be amazed at the change in your level of fitness.
Thank you!
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FredMikmik wrote: »Thank you everyone. I have seen a sport physio who told me to do some strength training at home but not which ones. I do have a quite strong core and lower back but my upper back is causing me a lot of pain. Horse back riding is a sport but it doesn't matter what kind of sport you do you can still get injuries. I do have hyper mobility which is something that hurts me when I ride because if the horse pulls or anything my arms move a bit forward which hurts a lot when you are hyper mobile. When I was younger I was at a regular stable where I did muck out and stuff but at my new stable you're not aloud to. And my name is not Fred it's just that English speakers don't know how to pronounce it or they think it's ugly.
My guess is Frederika
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TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: »FredMikmik wrote: »Thank you everyone. I have seen a sport physio who told me to do some strength training at home but not which ones. I do have a quite strong core and lower back but my upper back is causing me a lot of pain. Horse back riding is a sport but it doesn't matter what kind of sport you do you can still get injuries. I do have hyper mobility which is something that hurts me when I ride because if the horse pulls or anything my arms move a bit forward which hurts a lot when you are hyper mobile. When I was younger I was at a regular stable where I did muck out and stuff but at my new stable you're not aloud to. And my name is not Fred it's just that English speakers don't know how to pronounce it or they think it's ugly.
My guess is Frederika
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TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: »
I know one girl who showjumps to a high level who actually thought horses shoes already had jumping studs in them!!Yeah, you don't get to an All-Europe showjumping competition without a strong core, for crying out loud.
Unless it's some "vanity" competition with ridiculous entry fees (like a Toddlers and Tiaras competition for Euros), you are going to have SERIOUS core strength and a healthy lower back if you can legit compete in equestrian events.
And, seriously, even royalty is expected to "build character" by mucking out stalls. because not only had she never studded up in her life she had never actually tacked up!! she had always had the horse just handed to her!!
LOL, crazy. Everyone I've ever known from real "old money" style wealth has had to do serious nasty chores and brutal summer "camps" to "toughen them up." Are these all pampered nouveau riches that get coddled like this? because, dayum. I went to college with some Presidential relatives, etc....there was all manner of "hike the mountain to have empathy with the poors" BS going on. No "take the pretty horsie and ride" BS.
But, even if you aren't doing upkeep work...show jumping takes CORE. I did show jumping at a low level. If you have a weak core, you BY DEFINITION will be a terrible show jumper. How does someone get to an all-Europe competition with a weak core?
By making it up?
Don't have to.
Dutch riding school education sends out their students to big stables
To be fair, you dont have to be an excellent rider these days.
I had them at my stable/riding school and some of them were even afraid for a horse. Let alone they could ride a horse pretty decent.
But that must be the fact that i am old school and believe that they have to mug out stables too hehehe
But yes a lot of girls make things up too. And there is a huge group who think that they will make it in the horse world. But reality is that this is only for some really though athletics. Riders who train their horses every day, who bike and run ( cardio) for being fit.
Been there done that. For more than 46 years!
And teaching and coaching and judging for more than 30 years.
See, I think this is why this bothers me. There is a reason that Equestrian events are part of the Olympic games. Because real, legitimate competitors in this field are ATHLETES. They go to the gym, they lift some hardcore weights to strengthen their quads and core....because equestrian is a SPORT. A challenging, demanding, REAL sport. And any outfit that tells pampered kids that they are "competitive" when they are weak? A con job.
Look, OP. You just started talking about "owning horses." Yeay for your parents having money. Yawn. If you are serious about competitive riding, your coach will have you in the gym working on squats and front squats and deadlifts to get your thighs and back where you need to be to compete on even a basic level. If you seriously are in poor condition? Then you need to fire your coach and move your horses to a REAL stable that will have you shoveling poo for hours every day before they let you enter the tack room. That's what REAL equestrian programmes do.
I don't understand what this has to do with the OP's question.
Ops question is about how she can't work out because she spends HOURS of every day doing what SHOULD BE A WORKOUT.
If you read her posts in this thread, you'd see that she is looking to find a way to do strength exercises that are necessary for managing pain.
I don't think it's at all becoming for a grown woman to be all up in a teenager's face about what a "workout" is supposed to be, or riding cred or - who cares, I mean, it's such a weird thing to be up in arms about. Especially when the kid's dislocated her hip, for crying out loud.
If she has a dislocated hip, the last thing she should be doing is riding horses.0 -
TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: »
I know one girl who showjumps to a high level who actually thought horses shoes already had jumping studs in them!!Yeah, you don't get to an All-Europe showjumping competition without a strong core, for crying out loud.
Unless it's some "vanity" competition with ridiculous entry fees (like a Toddlers and Tiaras competition for Euros), you are going to have SERIOUS core strength and a healthy lower back if you can legit compete in equestrian events.
And, seriously, even royalty is expected to "build character" by mucking out stalls. because not only had she never studded up in her life she had never actually tacked up!! she had always had the horse just handed to her!!
LOL, crazy. Everyone I've ever known from real "old money" style wealth has had to do serious nasty chores and brutal summer "camps" to "toughen them up." Are these all pampered nouveau riches that get coddled like this? because, dayum. I went to college with some Presidential relatives, etc....there was all manner of "hike the mountain to have empathy with the poors" BS going on. No "take the pretty horsie and ride" BS.
But, even if you aren't doing upkeep work...show jumping takes CORE. I did show jumping at a low level. If you have a weak core, you BY DEFINITION will be a terrible show jumper. How does someone get to an all-Europe competition with a weak core?
By making it up?
Don't have to.
Dutch riding school education sends out their students to big stables
To be fair, you dont have to be an excellent rider these days.
I had them at my stable/riding school and some of them were even afraid for a horse. Let alone they could ride a horse pretty decent.
But that must be the fact that i am old school and believe that they have to mug out stables too hehehe
But yes a lot of girls make things up too. And there is a huge group who think that they will make it in the horse world. But reality is that this is only for some really though athletics. Riders who train their horses every day, who bike and run ( cardio) for being fit.
Been there done that. For more than 46 years!
And teaching and coaching and judging for more than 30 years.
See, I think this is why this bothers me. There is a reason that Equestrian events are part of the Olympic games. Because real, legitimate competitors in this field are ATHLETES. They go to the gym, they lift some hardcore weights to strengthen their quads and core....because equestrian is a SPORT. A challenging, demanding, REAL sport. And any outfit that tells pampered kids that they are "competitive" when they are weak? A con job.
Look, OP. You just started talking about "owning horses." Yeay for your parents having money. Yawn. If you are serious about competitive riding, your coach will have you in the gym working on squats and front squats and deadlifts to get your thighs and back where you need to be to compete on even a basic level. If you seriously are in poor condition? Then you need to fire your coach and move your horses to a REAL stable that will have you shoveling poo for hours every day before they let you enter the tack room. That's what REAL equestrian programmes do.
I don't understand what this has to do with the OP's question.
Ops question is about how she can't work out because she spends HOURS of every day doing what SHOULD BE A WORKOUT.
If you read her posts in this thread, you'd see that she is looking to find a way to do strength exercises that are necessary for managing pain.
I don't think it's at all becoming for a grown woman to be all up in a teenager's face about what a "workout" is supposed to be, or riding cred or - who cares, I mean, it's such a weird thing to be up in arms about. Especially when the kid's dislocated her hip, for crying out loud.
If she has a dislocated hip, the last thing she should be doing is riding horses.
When did the dislocated hip come into the equation? Missed that totally
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TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: »
I know one girl who showjumps to a high level who actually thought horses shoes already had jumping studs in them!!Yeah, you don't get to an All-Europe showjumping competition without a strong core, for crying out loud.
Unless it's some "vanity" competition with ridiculous entry fees (like a Toddlers and Tiaras competition for Euros), you are going to have SERIOUS core strength and a healthy lower back if you can legit compete in equestrian events.
And, seriously, even royalty is expected to "build character" by mucking out stalls. because not only had she never studded up in her life she had never actually tacked up!! she had always had the horse just handed to her!!
LOL, crazy. Everyone I've ever known from real "old money" style wealth has had to do serious nasty chores and brutal summer "camps" to "toughen them up." Are these all pampered nouveau riches that get coddled like this? because, dayum. I went to college with some Presidential relatives, etc....there was all manner of "hike the mountain to have empathy with the poors" BS going on. No "take the pretty horsie and ride" BS.
But, even if you aren't doing upkeep work...show jumping takes CORE. I did show jumping at a low level. If you have a weak core, you BY DEFINITION will be a terrible show jumper. How does someone get to an all-Europe competition with a weak core?
By making it up?
Don't have to.
Dutch riding school education sends out their students to big stables
To be fair, you dont have to be an excellent rider these days.
I had them at my stable/riding school and some of them were even afraid for a horse. Let alone they could ride a horse pretty decent.
But that must be the fact that i am old school and believe that they have to mug out stables too hehehe
But yes a lot of girls make things up too. And there is a huge group who think that they will make it in the horse world. But reality is that this is only for some really though athletics. Riders who train their horses every day, who bike and run ( cardio) for being fit.
Been there done that. For more than 46 years!
And teaching and coaching and judging for more than 30 years.
See, I think this is why this bothers me. There is a reason that Equestrian events are part of the Olympic games. Because real, legitimate competitors in this field are ATHLETES. They go to the gym, they lift some hardcore weights to strengthen their quads and core....because equestrian is a SPORT. A challenging, demanding, REAL sport. And any outfit that tells pampered kids that they are "competitive" when they are weak? A con job.
Look, OP. You just started talking about "owning horses." Yeay for your parents having money. Yawn. If you are serious about competitive riding, your coach will have you in the gym working on squats and front squats and deadlifts to get your thighs and back where you need to be to compete on even a basic level. If you seriously are in poor condition? Then you need to fire your coach and move your horses to a REAL stable that will have you shoveling poo for hours every day before they let you enter the tack room. That's what REAL equestrian programmes do.
I don't understand what this has to do with the OP's question.
Ops question is about how she can't work out because she spends HOURS of every day doing what SHOULD BE A WORKOUT.
If you read her posts in this thread, you'd see that she is looking to find a way to do strength exercises that are necessary for managing pain.
I don't think it's at all becoming for a grown woman to be all up in a teenager's face about what a "workout" is supposed to be, or riding cred or - who cares, I mean, it's such a weird thing to be up in arms about. Especially when the kid's dislocated her hip, for crying out loud.
If she has a dislocated hip, the last thing she should be doing is riding horses.
When did the dislocated hip come into the equation? Missed that totally
I dislocated my hip last summer and that's why I needed to build up muscles so that I could prevent injuries like that to happen again.
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TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: »
I know one girl who showjumps to a high level who actually thought horses shoes already had jumping studs in them!!Yeah, you don't get to an All-Europe showjumping competition without a strong core, for crying out loud.
Unless it's some "vanity" competition with ridiculous entry fees (like a Toddlers and Tiaras competition for Euros), you are going to have SERIOUS core strength and a healthy lower back if you can legit compete in equestrian events.
And, seriously, even royalty is expected to "build character" by mucking out stalls. because not only had she never studded up in her life she had never actually tacked up!! she had always had the horse just handed to her!!
LOL, crazy. Everyone I've ever known from real "old money" style wealth has had to do serious nasty chores and brutal summer "camps" to "toughen them up." Are these all pampered nouveau riches that get coddled like this? because, dayum. I went to college with some Presidential relatives, etc....there was all manner of "hike the mountain to have empathy with the poors" BS going on. No "take the pretty horsie and ride" BS.
But, even if you aren't doing upkeep work...show jumping takes CORE. I did show jumping at a low level. If you have a weak core, you BY DEFINITION will be a terrible show jumper. How does someone get to an all-Europe competition with a weak core?
By making it up?
Don't have to.
Dutch riding school education sends out their students to big stables
To be fair, you dont have to be an excellent rider these days.
I had them at my stable/riding school and some of them were even afraid for a horse. Let alone they could ride a horse pretty decent.
But that must be the fact that i am old school and believe that they have to mug out stables too hehehe
But yes a lot of girls make things up too. And there is a huge group who think that they will make it in the horse world. But reality is that this is only for some really though athletics. Riders who train their horses every day, who bike and run ( cardio) for being fit.
Been there done that. For more than 46 years!
And teaching and coaching and judging for more than 30 years.
See, I think this is why this bothers me. There is a reason that Equestrian events are part of the Olympic games. Because real, legitimate competitors in this field are ATHLETES. They go to the gym, they lift some hardcore weights to strengthen their quads and core....because equestrian is a SPORT. A challenging, demanding, REAL sport. And any outfit that tells pampered kids that they are "competitive" when they are weak? A con job.
Look, OP. You just started talking about "owning horses." Yeay for your parents having money. Yawn. If you are serious about competitive riding, your coach will have you in the gym working on squats and front squats and deadlifts to get your thighs and back where you need to be to compete on even a basic level. If you seriously are in poor condition? Then you need to fire your coach and move your horses to a REAL stable that will have you shoveling poo for hours every day before they let you enter the tack room. That's what REAL equestrian programmes do.
I don't understand what this has to do with the OP's question.
Ops question is about how she can't work out because she spends HOURS of every day doing what SHOULD BE A WORKOUT.
If you read her posts in this thread, you'd see that she is looking to find a way to do strength exercises that are necessary for managing pain.
I don't think it's at all becoming for a grown woman to be all up in a teenager's face about what a "workout" is supposed to be, or riding cred or - who cares, I mean, it's such a weird thing to be up in arms about. Especially when the kid's dislocated her hip, for crying out loud.
If she has a dislocated hip, the last thing she should be doing is riding horses.
I got it fixed and was cleared by my doctor a while ago and I went to a sport physio who told me to do exercises0 -
FredMikmik wrote: »Hi guys,
I have 2 horses and go to school so I use a lot of time on that. I usually get home at 8 and I don't have time for much else. I really want to build up muscles because I get a lot of injures since I'm weak hehe... The problem is I don't have time and I'm hoping some of you can help me
Keep in mind you don't necessarily have to do a full work out all in one chunk. If you can get in a quick brisk walk, a couple times a day...it all counts. A little bit of something is better than a lot of of nothing.0 -
TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: »
I know one girl who showjumps to a high level who actually thought horses shoes already had jumping studs in them!!Yeah, you don't get to an All-Europe showjumping competition without a strong core, for crying out loud.
Unless it's some "vanity" competition with ridiculous entry fees (like a Toddlers and Tiaras competition for Euros), you are going to have SERIOUS core strength and a healthy lower back if you can legit compete in equestrian events.
And, seriously, even royalty is expected to "build character" by mucking out stalls. because not only had she never studded up in her life she had never actually tacked up!! she had always had the horse just handed to her!!
LOL, crazy. Everyone I've ever known from real "old money" style wealth has had to do serious nasty chores and brutal summer "camps" to "toughen them up." Are these all pampered nouveau riches that get coddled like this? because, dayum. I went to college with some Presidential relatives, etc....there was all manner of "hike the mountain to have empathy with the poors" BS going on. No "take the pretty horsie and ride" BS.
But, even if you aren't doing upkeep work...show jumping takes CORE. I did show jumping at a low level. If you have a weak core, you BY DEFINITION will be a terrible show jumper. How does someone get to an all-Europe competition with a weak core?
By making it up?
Don't have to.
Dutch riding school education sends out their students to big stables
To be fair, you dont have to be an excellent rider these days.
I had them at my stable/riding school and some of them were even afraid for a horse. Let alone they could ride a horse pretty decent.
But that must be the fact that i am old school and believe that they have to mug out stables too hehehe
But yes a lot of girls make things up too. And there is a huge group who think that they will make it in the horse world. But reality is that this is only for some really though athletics. Riders who train their horses every day, who bike and run ( cardio) for being fit.
Been there done that. For more than 46 years!
And teaching and coaching and judging for more than 30 years.
See, I think this is why this bothers me. There is a reason that Equestrian events are part of the Olympic games. Because real, legitimate competitors in this field are ATHLETES. They go to the gym, they lift some hardcore weights to strengthen their quads and core....because equestrian is a SPORT. A challenging, demanding, REAL sport. And any outfit that tells pampered kids that they are "competitive" when they are weak? A con job.
Look, OP. You just started talking about "owning horses." Yeay for your parents having money. Yawn. If you are serious about competitive riding, your coach will have you in the gym working on squats and front squats and deadlifts to get your thighs and back where you need to be to compete on even a basic level. If you seriously are in poor condition? Then you need to fire your coach and move your horses to a REAL stable that will have you shoveling poo for hours every day before they let you enter the tack room. That's what REAL equestrian programmes do.
I don't understand what this has to do with the OP's question.
Ops question is about how she can't work out because she spends HOURS of every day doing what SHOULD BE A WORKOUT.
If you read her posts in this thread, you'd see that she is looking to find a way to do strength exercises that are necessary for managing pain.
I don't think it's at all becoming for a grown woman to be all up in a teenager's face about what a "workout" is supposed to be, or riding cred or - who cares, I mean, it's such a weird thing to be up in arms about. Especially when the kid's dislocated her hip, for crying out loud.
If she has a dislocated hip, the last thing she should be doing is riding horses.
When did the dislocated hip come into the equation? Missed that totally
So did I.FredMikmik wrote: »TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: »
I know one girl who showjumps to a high level who actually thought horses shoes already had jumping studs in them!!Yeah, you don't get to an All-Europe showjumping competition without a strong core, for crying out loud.
Unless it's some "vanity" competition with ridiculous entry fees (like a Toddlers and Tiaras competition for Euros), you are going to have SERIOUS core strength and a healthy lower back if you can legit compete in equestrian events.
And, seriously, even royalty is expected to "build character" by mucking out stalls. because not only had she never studded up in her life she had never actually tacked up!! she had always had the horse just handed to her!!
LOL, crazy. Everyone I've ever known from real "old money" style wealth has had to do serious nasty chores and brutal summer "camps" to "toughen them up." Are these all pampered nouveau riches that get coddled like this? because, dayum. I went to college with some Presidential relatives, etc....there was all manner of "hike the mountain to have empathy with the poors" BS going on. No "take the pretty horsie and ride" BS.
But, even if you aren't doing upkeep work...show jumping takes CORE. I did show jumping at a low level. If you have a weak core, you BY DEFINITION will be a terrible show jumper. How does someone get to an all-Europe competition with a weak core?
By making it up?
Don't have to.
Dutch riding school education sends out their students to big stables
To be fair, you dont have to be an excellent rider these days.
I had them at my stable/riding school and some of them were even afraid for a horse. Let alone they could ride a horse pretty decent.
But that must be the fact that i am old school and believe that they have to mug out stables too hehehe
But yes a lot of girls make things up too. And there is a huge group who think that they will make it in the horse world. But reality is that this is only for some really though athletics. Riders who train their horses every day, who bike and run ( cardio) for being fit.
Been there done that. For more than 46 years!
And teaching and coaching and judging for more than 30 years.
See, I think this is why this bothers me. There is a reason that Equestrian events are part of the Olympic games. Because real, legitimate competitors in this field are ATHLETES. They go to the gym, they lift some hardcore weights to strengthen their quads and core....because equestrian is a SPORT. A challenging, demanding, REAL sport. And any outfit that tells pampered kids that they are "competitive" when they are weak? A con job.
Look, OP. You just started talking about "owning horses." Yeay for your parents having money. Yawn. If you are serious about competitive riding, your coach will have you in the gym working on squats and front squats and deadlifts to get your thighs and back where you need to be to compete on even a basic level. If you seriously are in poor condition? Then you need to fire your coach and move your horses to a REAL stable that will have you shoveling poo for hours every day before they let you enter the tack room. That's what REAL equestrian programmes do.
I don't understand what this has to do with the OP's question.
Ops question is about how she can't work out because she spends HOURS of every day doing what SHOULD BE A WORKOUT.
If you read her posts in this thread, you'd see that she is looking to find a way to do strength exercises that are necessary for managing pain.
I don't think it's at all becoming for a grown woman to be all up in a teenager's face about what a "workout" is supposed to be, or riding cred or - who cares, I mean, it's such a weird thing to be up in arms about. Especially when the kid's dislocated her hip, for crying out loud.
If she has a dislocated hip, the last thing she should be doing is riding horses.
I got it fixed and was cleared by my doctor a while ago and I went to a sport physio who told me to do exercises
The same physio who gave you bad advice on page 1? I would think a dislocated hip would put you out for much longer.
I fractured my ankle at age 14. It healed but I was never able to return to ballet (pointe) because of the stress it would put on my ankle. I would think a hip injury would end the game of horse riding.0 -
FredMikmik wrote: »Hi guys,
I have 2 horses and go to school so I use a lot of time on that. I usually get home at 8 and I don't have time for much else. I really want to build up muscles because I get a lot of injures since I'm weak hehe... The problem is I don't have time and I'm hoping some of you can help me
no one has any extra time in their day. everyone has the same finite amount of time given to them, and it's up to us on how we use them.
you say you have to ride your horses and you're in school. well, you have to find places to change time from, because wanting to get stronger is going to require you to do at least 30 minutes of exercising 3 times a week.
maybe start sleeping faster.0 -
TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: »
I know one girl who showjumps to a high level who actually thought horses shoes already had jumping studs in them!!Yeah, you don't get to an All-Europe showjumping competition without a strong core, for crying out loud.
Unless it's some "vanity" competition with ridiculous entry fees (like a Toddlers and Tiaras competition for Euros), you are going to have SERIOUS core strength and a healthy lower back if you can legit compete in equestrian events.
And, seriously, even royalty is expected to "build character" by mucking out stalls. because not only had she never studded up in her life she had never actually tacked up!! she had always had the horse just handed to her!!
LOL, crazy. Everyone I've ever known from real "old money" style wealth has had to do serious nasty chores and brutal summer "camps" to "toughen them up." Are these all pampered nouveau riches that get coddled like this? because, dayum. I went to college with some Presidential relatives, etc....there was all manner of "hike the mountain to have empathy with the poors" BS going on. No "take the pretty horsie and ride" BS.
But, even if you aren't doing upkeep work...show jumping takes CORE. I did show jumping at a low level. If you have a weak core, you BY DEFINITION will be a terrible show jumper. How does someone get to an all-Europe competition with a weak core?
By making it up?
Don't have to.
Dutch riding school education sends out their students to big stables
To be fair, you dont have to be an excellent rider these days.
I had them at my stable/riding school and some of them were even afraid for a horse. Let alone they could ride a horse pretty decent.
But that must be the fact that i am old school and believe that they have to mug out stables too hehehe
But yes a lot of girls make things up too. And there is a huge group who think that they will make it in the horse world. But reality is that this is only for some really though athletics. Riders who train their horses every day, who bike and run ( cardio) for being fit.
Been there done that. For more than 46 years!
And teaching and coaching and judging for more than 30 years.
See, I think this is why this bothers me. There is a reason that Equestrian events are part of the Olympic games. Because real, legitimate competitors in this field are ATHLETES. They go to the gym, they lift some hardcore weights to strengthen their quads and core....because equestrian is a SPORT. A challenging, demanding, REAL sport. And any outfit that tells pampered kids that they are "competitive" when they are weak? A con job.
Look, OP. You just started talking about "owning horses." Yeay for your parents having money. Yawn. If you are serious about competitive riding, your coach will have you in the gym working on squats and front squats and deadlifts to get your thighs and back where you need to be to compete on even a basic level. If you seriously are in poor condition? Then you need to fire your coach and move your horses to a REAL stable that will have you shoveling poo for hours every day before they let you enter the tack room. That's what REAL equestrian programmes do.
I don't understand what this has to do with the OP's question.
Ops question is about how she can't work out because she spends HOURS of every day doing what SHOULD BE A WORKOUT.
If you read her posts in this thread, you'd see that she is looking to find a way to do strength exercises that are necessary for managing pain.
I don't think it's at all becoming for a grown woman to be all up in a teenager's face about what a "workout" is supposed to be, or riding cred or - who cares, I mean, it's such a weird thing to be up in arms about. Especially when the kid's dislocated her hip, for crying out loud.
If she has a dislocated hip, the last thing she should be doing is riding horses.
When did the dislocated hip come into the equation? Missed that totally
So did I.FredMikmik wrote: »TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: »
I know one girl who showjumps to a high level who actually thought horses shoes already had jumping studs in them!!Yeah, you don't get to an All-Europe showjumping competition without a strong core, for crying out loud.
Unless it's some "vanity" competition with ridiculous entry fees (like a Toddlers and Tiaras competition for Euros), you are going to have SERIOUS core strength and a healthy lower back if you can legit compete in equestrian events.
And, seriously, even royalty is expected to "build character" by mucking out stalls. because not only had she never studded up in her life she had never actually tacked up!! she had always had the horse just handed to her!!
LOL, crazy. Everyone I've ever known from real "old money" style wealth has had to do serious nasty chores and brutal summer "camps" to "toughen them up." Are these all pampered nouveau riches that get coddled like this? because, dayum. I went to college with some Presidential relatives, etc....there was all manner of "hike the mountain to have empathy with the poors" BS going on. No "take the pretty horsie and ride" BS.
But, even if you aren't doing upkeep work...show jumping takes CORE. I did show jumping at a low level. If you have a weak core, you BY DEFINITION will be a terrible show jumper. How does someone get to an all-Europe competition with a weak core?
By making it up?
Don't have to.
Dutch riding school education sends out their students to big stables
To be fair, you dont have to be an excellent rider these days.
I had them at my stable/riding school and some of them were even afraid for a horse. Let alone they could ride a horse pretty decent.
But that must be the fact that i am old school and believe that they have to mug out stables too hehehe
But yes a lot of girls make things up too. And there is a huge group who think that they will make it in the horse world. But reality is that this is only for some really though athletics. Riders who train their horses every day, who bike and run ( cardio) for being fit.
Been there done that. For more than 46 years!
And teaching and coaching and judging for more than 30 years.
See, I think this is why this bothers me. There is a reason that Equestrian events are part of the Olympic games. Because real, legitimate competitors in this field are ATHLETES. They go to the gym, they lift some hardcore weights to strengthen their quads and core....because equestrian is a SPORT. A challenging, demanding, REAL sport. And any outfit that tells pampered kids that they are "competitive" when they are weak? A con job.
Look, OP. You just started talking about "owning horses." Yeay for your parents having money. Yawn. If you are serious about competitive riding, your coach will have you in the gym working on squats and front squats and deadlifts to get your thighs and back where you need to be to compete on even a basic level. If you seriously are in poor condition? Then you need to fire your coach and move your horses to a REAL stable that will have you shoveling poo for hours every day before they let you enter the tack room. That's what REAL equestrian programmes do.
I don't understand what this has to do with the OP's question.
Ops question is about how she can't work out because she spends HOURS of every day doing what SHOULD BE A WORKOUT.
If you read her posts in this thread, you'd see that she is looking to find a way to do strength exercises that are necessary for managing pain.
I don't think it's at all becoming for a grown woman to be all up in a teenager's face about what a "workout" is supposed to be, or riding cred or - who cares, I mean, it's such a weird thing to be up in arms about. Especially when the kid's dislocated her hip, for crying out loud.
If she has a dislocated hip, the last thing she should be doing is riding horses.
I got it fixed and was cleared by my doctor a while ago and I went to a sport physio who told me to do exercises
The same physio who gave you bad advice on page 1? I would think a dislocated hip would put you out for much longer.
I fractured my ankle at age 14. It healed but I was never able to return to ballet (pointe) because of the stress it would put on my ankle. I would think a hip injury would end the game of horse riding.
It still hurts but that's why I need to do exercises it was both my doctor and physio who cleared me. And it did take a couple of months I don't know why I'm allowed to do exercise but maybe I was just luckier than you I'm not a doctor so I can't give you a good answer on that0
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