Anyone fancy doing a juice detox?
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Sounds horribly miserable. No thanks.0
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I thought it might be too but it's really not. The actual hardest thing is missing/avoiding social gatherings like birthday meals.MommyL2015 wrote: »Sounds horribly miserable. No thanks.0 -
I thought it might be too but it's really not. The actual hardest thing is missing/avoiding social gatherings like birthday meals.MommyL2015 wrote: »Sounds horribly miserable. No thanks.
That definitely sounds like a great and sustainable plan.0 -
I thought it might be too but it's really not. The actual hardest thing is missing/avoiding social gatherings like birthday meals.MommyL2015 wrote: »Sounds horribly miserable. No thanks.
That alone is a good reason to not do this. My family and friends are so much more important than a diet.0 -
I thought it might be too but it's really not. The actual hardest thing is missing/avoiding social gatherings like birthday meals.MommyL2015 wrote: »Sounds horribly miserable. No thanks.
That alone is a good reason to not do this. My family and friends are so much more important than a diet.
^This.0 -
I thought it might be too but it's really not. The actual hardest thing is missing/avoiding social gatherings like birthday meals.MommyL2015 wrote: »Sounds horribly miserable. No thanks.
That alone is a good reason to not do this. My family and friends are so much more important than a diet.
100%. When a diet plan means you miss important occasions, you've got your priorities wrong. Time with loved ones should never be trumped by a fad weight loss plan.0 -
How will you get protein. Even raw vegans have to Plan carefully to get enough, and they have access to nuts. There isn't anything you can juice with enough protein to maintain, hair, skin, nails and muscle.0 -
I missed one actual birthday of a friend, I did go to others and just have water, I am a sort of all or nothing guy so I k ow if I break my "goal" then I will struggle to restart, others I'm sure would manage.0
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I missed one actual birthday of a friend, I did go to others and just have water, I am a sort of all or nothing guy so I k ow if I break my "goal" then I will struggle to restart, others I'm sure would manage.
The obvious answer is not to do such a ridiculous diet that you can't manage it.0 -
I missed one actual birthday of a friend, I did go to others and just have water, I am a sort of all or nothing guy so I k ow if I break my "goal" then I will struggle to restart, others I'm sure would manage.
As someone who used to be like that, I can tell you that while you keep indulging that impulse with overly restrictive fads, you will not succeed. You need to learn to moderate your eating impulses and learn sustainable habits for life, not coddle your all or nothing behaviours with juice "detoxes" then going back to old habits. You're doing yourself no favours.0 -
I'm on my iPad here I will reply tomorrow properly. Thanks for the feedback!0
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Yeah, no.
I enjoy the glowing skin and muscle retention that protein and fats give me.
I also really enjoy mastication.
Why anyone would want to do this to themselves is beyond me. The fads that gain traction in the first world can be mind-blowing.0 -
For the record, I did the juicing once before, and after I had a sort of food revolution and was cooking healthy non processed food from scratch every day, I did this for 7 months and then went on holiday, I "let my self go" and even once back I could not get out of "holiday mode" and kept eating bad like before. I also lost lots of weight through diet/excercise a few years ago but I was eating poorly then and put it back on after a holiday again... The juicing and healthy eating after was the best thing that happened to my in a long time, for people that have not done it to hate on it so much is puzzling.brianpperkins wrote: »Your previous attempts were so successful that you have to do it again. Severely restrict, lose, then gain back when eating real food.
What is puzzling is the fact that you cannot see that your system doesn't work for you for long term success. It's not sustainable. If you can't use this and keep the weight off for life, then it doesn't work.0 -
My kidney's, liver and digestion system detox me daily. All by itself.
And why do you think it detox alcohol? How did that came in the body in the first place? So no processed food but a detox for alcohol......>>>>puzzled
My liver does a great job for that toxin.
And why, when you see this subject is not really appreciated here, start a new dedicated thread about it?
Maybe there is a detox forum some were?
btw my skin also looks very healthy and i feel also amazing And never thought to be this fit again
After my normal CICO and drinking water
I must have done something right in the last 362 days.
ps dont get me wrong nothing bad about a glass of juice now and than...specially some lime juice in a good Magaritha.
But learning portion control and moderation so you dont get the yoyo effect was more suitable to me.0 -
If you are set at doing this, then would you consider blitzing your fruit and vegies in a blender, such as the nutri ninja etc. etc., and then also adding in some protein powder, eggs and fat. By using a juicer you're getting rid of all that wonderful fibre and pretty much drinking sugar water
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christinev297 wrote: »By using a juicer you're getting rid of all that wonderful fibre and pretty much drinking sugar water
Exactly.
You could get the same effect by drinking a glass of OJ and taking a multivitamin.
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I'd consider doing a juice fast/"detox" about as much as I'd consider cutting off my legs to lose weight. Both are unsafe and extraordinarily unnecessary/ridiculous ideas with highly undesirable side effects. I'm amazed that a grown man would even contemplate such a thing.0
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snowflake954 wrote: »My take on it is this--you say you've done this before and lost a lot of weight, felt great, wonderful skin...... BUT you gained it all back. This is not what the majority of us want to do here. We want to lose the weight, feel and look better and KEEP IT OFF. Now that's the hardest by far. Good luck with your juicing. This sounds like yo-yoing to me.
I don't want to be yo yoing but it happens to me... I lost lots doing diet/excercise a few years ago and did not Keep off as long as with the juicing.
Juicing = yoyoing.
Your approach to weight loss is not sustainable.
I hope by the time you realise that what you are doing will mean you keep gaining and losing the same weight, you will not have done irreversible damage to your health. I would be surprised if your skin at least can keep up with all the yoyo dieting, there is a limit to how much elasticity skin has.0 -
I'm fancy, and no.
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Personally, I do not think juicing for 30 days is necessary or a good idea, because you need to establish life style changes, not quick changes!
OP as you said at the start that you do not want to get in to a debate I will leave it at that.
HOWEVER, making sure you get the correct nutrients in during this 30 days is very important. Make sure you get your daily protein and fat macros in.
I am not familiar with how juicing works (is it literally just juice, or do you get to have other liquid food like smoothies or soup?)
I would recommend using ingredients like protein powder, peanut butter, chai seeds, some milk, etc in smoothies to get all your nutrients in. Google some healthy smoothie recipes that you can have during the juicing period. There are loads of ideas out there with nutritional breakdowns. Make sure you hit your macros.0 -
How will you get protein. Even raw vegans have to Plan carefully to get enough, and they have access to nuts. There isn't anything you can juice with enough protein to maintain, hair, skin, nails and muscle.
Contrary to popular belief there are plenty of veggies that have protein. I'm vegan and even on days I don't eat nuts I still meet my protein goals.
To the OP, I do not recommend juice fasting though. It makes much more sense to just do a raw vegetable and fruit cleanse if you're going to do it, because then you still have the fiber. Juice cleanses can mess up your bodies ability to digest food properly once you return to normal eating. I actually became vegan because I wanted to do a temporary "cleanse" of all the meat, cheese, dairy, and I felt so good and I learned so much about the ethical side of it that I decided to make the change permanent. Also, do not try to do this as a means to lose weight. You will regain nearly all of the weight you lose once you return to eating regular foods. If you do it, do it for your health, not weightloss.0 -
I did it last year and kept it all off for 7 months then went on holiday and got back into old habits... I was not starving and actually felt amazing
This is just a kick start and it really helped me with food management and cravings last time.
If you did it last year and it worked so well, why would you have to do it again?Don't get me wrong I really appreciate the feedback and I will read into it more but I did it and I know how healthy it made me feel, my skin condition disappeared for almost 9 months, I felt great.
This was likely due to cutting out meat and dairy, not because of the juice. My skin has cleared immensely since becoming vegan.0 -
Did you ever think that your hair/skin etc were healthier because you were consuming fruits and vegetables? there's nothing miraculous about grinding them into juice form! Maybe just eat more fruits and vegetables as part of a regular diet.
You're obviously set on this mistake, but for newbies researching "detox" or "juicing", I hope they'll read these comments and recognize that eating a balanced diet (read-EAT. not drink)-will provide the health benefits one needs and that yes, you still need fiber and protein.0 -
forgtmenot wrote: »
How will you get protein. Even raw vegans have to Plan carefully to get enough, and they have access to nuts. There isn't anything you can juice with enough protein to maintain, hair, skin, nails and muscle.
Contrary to popular belief there are plenty of veggies that have protein. I'm vegan and even on days I don't eat nuts I still meet my protein goals.
To the OP, I do not recommend juice fasting though. It makes much more sense to just do a raw vegetable and fruit cleanse if you're going to do it, because then you still have the fiber. Juice cleanses can mess up your bodies ability to digest food properly once you return to normal eating. I actually became vegan because I wanted to do a temporary "cleanse" of all the meat, cheese, dairy, and I felt so good and I learned so much about the ethical side of it that I decided to make the change permanent. Also, do not try to do this as a means to lose weight. You will regain nearly all of the weight you lose once you return to eating regular foods. If you do it, do it for your health, not weightloss.
I think you read my post wrong, but how many of the things that you eat for protein can be juiced without loosing a lot of protein? Or can even be juiced. (Blended is a whole different issue.)
Beans, nuts, seeds, avocados, they don't juice well. And raw vegans don't even do the beans.0 -
forgtmenot wrote: »I did it last year and kept it all off for 7 months then went on holiday and got back into old habits... I was not starving and actually felt amazing
This is just a kick start and it really helped me with food management and cravings last time.
If you did it last year and it worked so well, why would you have to do it again?Don't get me wrong I really appreciate the feedback and I will read into it more but I did it and I know how healthy it made me feel, my skin condition disappeared for almost 9 months, I felt great.
This was likely due to cutting out meat and dairy, not because of the juice. My skin has cleared immensely since becoming vegan.
You can make 100g protein with just veggies
Wow, that's impressive0 -
Holy Cow... Please do not hurt yourself. I am in to cleansing. I do a specific one three times a year.But I definitely eat!!!! It is just what I eat that changes and I add special herbal teas to help flush out my colon, kidneys and liver and get the lymphatic system to drain better. I never heard of anyone thinking starvation is healthy. How scary..I learned what I have been doing for decades from my dietitian. I stay the heck away from fads etc. Losing weight isn't worth dying over... Please look more towards health and longevity. I believe firmly that anything worth having is worth fighting for and that is exactly what a healthy lifestyle is. Not a gimmick or "quick"fix" there isn't any such thing.I pray you do what is best for your health.0
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forgtmenot wrote: »I did it last year and kept it all off for 7 months then went on holiday and got back into old habits... I was not starving and actually felt amazing
This is just a kick start and it really helped me with food management and cravings last time.
If you did it last year and it worked so well, why would you have to do it again?Don't get me wrong I really appreciate the feedback and I will read into it more but I did it and I know how healthy it made me feel, my skin condition disappeared for almost 9 months, I felt great.
This was likely due to cutting out meat and dairy, not because of the juice. My skin has cleared immensely since becoming vegan.
You can make 100g protein with just veggies
Wow, that's impressive
The recommended protein requirement for women is not 100g. 100 is extremely high and there is actually no physiological reason to eat that much protein. In fact, diets high in animal protein are linked to heart disease and osteoporosis.0 -
forgtmenot wrote: »forgtmenot wrote: »I did it last year and kept it all off for 7 months then went on holiday and got back into old habits... I was not starving and actually felt amazing
This is just a kick start and it really helped me with food management and cravings last time.
If you did it last year and it worked so well, why would you have to do it again?Don't get me wrong I really appreciate the feedback and I will read into it more but I did it and I know how healthy it made me feel, my skin condition disappeared for almost 9 months, I felt great.
This was likely due to cutting out meat and dairy, not because of the juice. My skin has cleared immensely since becoming vegan.
You can make 100g protein with just veggies
Wow, that's impressive
The recommended protein requirement for women is not 100g. 100 is extremely high and there is actually no physiological reason to eat that much protein. In fact, diets high in animal protein are linked to heart disease and osteoporosis.
Really? Care to source that health link?
The recommended protein minimum is 0.64-0.8g per lb bodyweight when you are interested in hypertrophy
I weigh 158lb so my bare minimum would be 101g ...the OP is male, with 70lbs to lose, I assume he weighs more than me
So you can see why I'd be interested in your assertion that you can hit protein goals just with vegetables. What exactly is your goal?0 -
forgtmenot wrote: »forgtmenot wrote: »I did it last year and kept it all off for 7 months then went on holiday and got back into old habits... I was not starving and actually felt amazing
This is just a kick start and it really helped me with food management and cravings last time.
If you did it last year and it worked so well, why would you have to do it again?Don't get me wrong I really appreciate the feedback and I will read into it more but I did it and I know how healthy it made me feel, my skin condition disappeared for almost 9 months, I felt great.
This was likely due to cutting out meat and dairy, not because of the juice. My skin has cleared immensely since becoming vegan.
You can make 100g protein with just veggies
Wow, that's impressive
The recommended protein requirement for women is not 100g. 100 is extremely high and there is actually no physiological reason to eat that much protein. In fact, diets high in animal protein are linked to heart disease and osteoporosis.
Really? Care to source that health link?
The recommended protein minimum is 0.64-0.8g per lb bodyweight when you are interested in hypertrophy
I weigh 158lb so my bare minimum would be 101g ...the OP is male, with 70lbs to lose, I assume he weighs more than me
So you can see why I'd be interested in your assertion that you can hit protein goals just with vegetables. What exactly is your goal?
You over quote the minimum all the time. 0.37g/lb (0.8g/kg) is the minimum recommended protein for the average person (USDA recomendation).
0.64g/lb is the recommended amount for bodybuilders to get maximum benefit (this covers most body builders). 0.82g/lb is additional markup to cover the most genetically gifted people (this covers essentially everyone).
http://bayesianbodybuilding.com/the-myth-of-1glb-optimal-protein-intake-for-bodybuilders/
So, unless your goal is optimal muscle building there is no reason to be eating even 0.64g/lb per day.0 -
nordlead2005 wrote: »forgtmenot wrote: »forgtmenot wrote: »I did it last year and kept it all off for 7 months then went on holiday and got back into old habits... I was not starving and actually felt amazing
This is just a kick start and it really helped me with food management and cravings last time.
If you did it last year and it worked so well, why would you have to do it again?Don't get me wrong I really appreciate the feedback and I will read into it more but I did it and I know how healthy it made me feel, my skin condition disappeared for almost 9 months, I felt great.
This was likely due to cutting out meat and dairy, not because of the juice. My skin has cleared immensely since becoming vegan.
You can make 100g protein with just veggies
Wow, that's impressive
The recommended protein requirement for women is not 100g. 100 is extremely high and there is actually no physiological reason to eat that much protein. In fact, diets high in animal protein are linked to heart disease and osteoporosis.
Really? Care to source that health link?
The recommended protein minimum is 0.64-0.8g per lb bodyweight when you are interested in hypertrophy
I weigh 158lb so my bare minimum would be 101g ...the OP is male, with 70lbs to lose, I assume he weighs more than me
So you can see why I'd be interested in your assertion that you can hit protein goals just with vegetables. What exactly is your goal?
You over quote the minimum all the time. 0.37g/lb (0.8g/kg) is the minimum recommended protein for the average person (USDA recomendation).
0.64g/lb is the recommended amount for bodybuilders to get maximum benefit (this covers most body builders). 0.82g/lb is additional markup to cover the most genetically gifted people (this covers essentially everyone).
http://bayesianbodybuilding.com/the-myth-of-1glb-optimal-protein-intake-for-bodybuilders/
So, unless your goal is optimal muscle building there is no reason to be eating even 0.64g/lb per day.
So let's say you're not shooting for muscle building and just a goal of .5g/lb of protein (not the minimum for the average person, but also below the minimum for bodybuilders). A 120 lb. person would need 60g of protein. Are you able to get that with just vegetables?0
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