Anyone fancy doing a juice detox?

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  • kk_inprogress
    kk_inprogress Posts: 3,077 Member
    blitz2011 wrote: »
    Glad to see this has sparked some debate...
    @forgtmenot i went vegetarian after juicing last year and i loved it, when i was on holiday i decided to go back to meat and found it to hard to leave it again (damn u tasty animals)... I want to go 100% veg after juicing this time too, hopefully i can.

    The point of this is not a long term thing, i think some people think i will want to do this all the time but it's just a detox to me, and just now i very much need a detox... It also seems to help me to do lots of other things like manage food cravings and altogether give me a better appreciation for food. As i said before this helped me loads before and i hope it will do the same this time. regaining the weight was as a result of returning to old eating habits after a holiday and not doing any exercise while working infront of a computer for 12 hours a day...

    I have not officially started my juicing and hope to complete it, i have started doing some more research on the subjects and here is one for the people crying fiber: http://www.rebootwithjoe.com/the-facts-on-fiber-juice/ I never had any problems...

    For protein i did try spirulina powder for a while but really did not like the taste so gave it up, i'll research to see if i can find some better replacement if i go for 60 days like i think i am now going to do.

    Out of interest has anyone see the film http://www.rebootwithjoe.com/watch-fat-sick-and-nearly-dead/ which inspired me to do this the first time?

    You need real inspiration. Like the kind that isn't a scam.
  • blitz2011
    blitz2011 Posts: 58 Member
    minie_me wrote: »
    Does this kind of diet really work? Wouldn't you just pile the weight back on as soon as you start to eat normal foods again?

    The OP did after doing this before.
    No I didn't it was months later I started putting it back on...
  • blitz2011
    blitz2011 Posts: 58 Member
    kkenseth wrote: »
    blitz2011 wrote: »
    Glad to see this has sparked some debate...
    @forgtmenot i went vegetarian after juicing last year and i loved it, when i was on holiday i decided to go back to meat and found it to hard to leave it again (damn u tasty animals)... I want to go 100% veg after juicing this time too, hopefully i can.

    The point of this is not a long term thing, i think some people think i will want to do this all the time but it's just a detox to me, and just now i very much need a detox... It also seems to help me to do lots of other things like manage food cravings and altogether give me a better appreciation for food. As i said before this helped me loads before and i hope it will do the same this time. regaining the weight was as a result of returning to old eating habits after a holiday and not doing any exercise while working infront of a computer for 12 hours a day...

    I have not officially started my juicing and hope to complete it, i have started doing some more research on the subjects and here is one for the people crying fiber: http://www.rebootwithjoe.com/the-facts-on-fiber-juice/ I never had any problems...

    For protein i did try spirulina powder for a while but really did not like the taste so gave it up, i'll research to see if i can find some better replacement if i go for 60 days like i think i am now going to do.

    Out of interest has anyone see the film http://www.rebootwithjoe.com/watch-fat-sick-and-nearly-dead/ which inspired me to do this the first time?

    You need real inspiration. Like the kind that isn't a scam.

    Where is the scam? I am juicing my own fresh fruit and veg, nothing else?
  • blitz2011
    blitz2011 Posts: 58 Member
    queenliz99 wrote: »
    blitz2011 wrote: »
    Glad to see this has sparked some debate...
    @forgtmenot i went vegetarian after juicing last year and i loved it, when i was on holiday i decided to go back to meat and found it to hard to leave it again (damn u tasty animals)... I want to go 100% veg after juicing this time too, hopefully i can.

    The point of this is not a long term thing, i think some people think i will want to do this all the time but it's just a detox to me, and just now i very much need a detox... It also seems to help me to do lots of other things like manage food cravings and altogether give me a better appreciation for food. As i said before this helped me loads before and i hope it will do the same this time. regaining the weight was as a result of returning to old eating habits after a holiday and not doing any exercise while working infront of a computer for 12 hours a day...

    I have not officially started my juicing and hope to complete it, i have started doing some more research on the subjects and here is one for the people crying fiber: http://www.rebootwithjoe.com/the-facts-on-fiber-juice/ I never had any problems...

    For protein i did try spirulina powder for a while but really did not like the taste so gave it up, i'll research to see if i can find some better replacement if i go for 60 days like i think i am now going to do.

    Out of interest has anyone see the film http://www.rebootwithjoe.com/watch-fat-sick-and-nearly-dead/ which inspired me to do this the first time?

    It's bogus!!
    How so?

  • kk_inprogress
    kk_inprogress Posts: 3,077 Member
    blitz2011 wrote: »
    kkenseth wrote: »
    blitz2011 wrote: »
    Glad to see this has sparked some debate...
    @forgtmenot i went vegetarian after juicing last year and i loved it, when i was on holiday i decided to go back to meat and found it to hard to leave it again (damn u tasty animals)... I want to go 100% veg after juicing this time too, hopefully i can.

    The point of this is not a long term thing, i think some people think i will want to do this all the time but it's just a detox to me, and just now i very much need a detox... It also seems to help me to do lots of other things like manage food cravings and altogether give me a better appreciation for food. As i said before this helped me loads before and i hope it will do the same this time. regaining the weight was as a result of returning to old eating habits after a holiday and not doing any exercise while working infront of a computer for 12 hours a day...

    I have not officially started my juicing and hope to complete it, i have started doing some more research on the subjects and here is one for the people crying fiber: http://www.rebootwithjoe.com/the-facts-on-fiber-juice/ I never had any problems...

    For protein i did try spirulina powder for a while but really did not like the taste so gave it up, i'll research to see if i can find some better replacement if i go for 60 days like i think i am now going to do.

    Out of interest has anyone see the film http://www.rebootwithjoe.com/watch-fat-sick-and-nearly-dead/ which inspired me to do this the first time?

    You need real inspiration. Like the kind that isn't a scam.

    Where is the scam? I am juicing my own fresh fruit and veg, nothing else?

    Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead as inspiration. It's a bogus documentary for the purpose of selling juicing equipment.
  • kk_inprogress
    kk_inprogress Posts: 3,077 Member
    blitz2011 wrote: »
    minie_me wrote: »
    Does this kind of diet really work? Wouldn't you just pile the weight back on as soon as you start to eat normal foods again?

    The OP did after doing this before.
    No I didn't it was months later I started putting it back on...

    That's still putting it back on which means you didn't develop long term good eating habits.
  • mccindy72
    mccindy72 Posts: 7,001 Member
    blitz2011 wrote: »
    kkenseth wrote: »
    blitz2011 wrote: »
    Glad to see this has sparked some debate...
    @forgtmenot i went vegetarian after juicing last year and i loved it, when i was on holiday i decided to go back to meat and found it to hard to leave it again (damn u tasty animals)... I want to go 100% veg after juicing this time too, hopefully i can.

    The point of this is not a long term thing, i think some people think i will want to do this all the time but it's just a detox to me, and just now i very much need a detox... It also seems to help me to do lots of other things like manage food cravings and altogether give me a better appreciation for food. As i said before this helped me loads before and i hope it will do the same this time. regaining the weight was as a result of returning to old eating habits after a holiday and not doing any exercise while working infront of a computer for 12 hours a day...

    I have not officially started my juicing and hope to complete it, i have started doing some more research on the subjects and here is one for the people crying fiber: http://www.rebootwithjoe.com/the-facts-on-fiber-juice/ I never had any problems...

    For protein i did try spirulina powder for a while but really did not like the taste so gave it up, i'll research to see if i can find some better replacement if i go for 60 days like i think i am now going to do.

    Out of interest has anyone see the film http://www.rebootwithjoe.com/watch-fat-sick-and-nearly-dead/ which inspired me to do this the first time?

    You need real inspiration. Like the kind that isn't a scam.

    Where is the scam? I am juicing my own fresh fruit and veg, nothing else?

    Nothing else is the problem. Juicing is fine as a supplement to a well-rounded diet. It's not fine, as your sole source of nutrition and calories.
  • queenliz99
    queenliz99 Posts: 15,317 Member
    blitz2011 wrote: »
    queenliz99 wrote: »
    blitz2011 wrote: »
    Glad to see this has sparked some debate...
    @forgtmenot i went vegetarian after juicing last year and i loved it, when i was on holiday i decided to go back to meat and found it to hard to leave it again (damn u tasty animals)... I want to go 100% veg after juicing this time too, hopefully i can.

    The point of this is not a long term thing, i think some people think i will want to do this all the time but it's just a detox to me, and just now i very much need a detox... It also seems to help me to do lots of other things like manage food cravings and altogether give me a better appreciation for food. As i said before this helped me loads before and i hope it will do the same this time. regaining the weight was as a result of returning to old eating habits after a holiday and not doing any exercise while working infront of a computer for 12 hours a day...

    I have not officially started my juicing and hope to complete it, i have started doing some more research on the subjects and here is one for the people crying fiber: http://www.rebootwithjoe.com/the-facts-on-fiber-juice/ I never had any problems...

    For protein i did try spirulina powder for a while but really did not like the taste so gave it up, i'll research to see if i can find some better replacement if i go for 60 days like i think i am now going to do.

    Out of interest has anyone see the film http://www.rebootwithjoe.com/watch-fat-sick-and-nearly-dead/ which inspired me to do this the first time?

    It's bogus!!
    How so?

    @shell1005 It's just stupid sauce!
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  • queenliz99
    queenliz99 Posts: 15,317 Member
    shell1005 wrote: »
    queenliz99 wrote: »
    blitz2011 wrote: »
    queenliz99 wrote: »
    blitz2011 wrote: »
    Glad to see this has sparked some debate...
    @forgtmenot i went vegetarian after juicing last year and i loved it, when i was on holiday i decided to go back to meat and found it to hard to leave it again (damn u tasty animals)... I want to go 100% veg after juicing this time too, hopefully i can.

    The point of this is not a long term thing, i think some people think i will want to do this all the time but it's just a detox to me, and just now i very much need a detox... It also seems to help me to do lots of other things like manage food cravings and altogether give me a better appreciation for food. As i said before this helped me loads before and i hope it will do the same this time. regaining the weight was as a result of returning to old eating habits after a holiday and not doing any exercise while working infront of a computer for 12 hours a day...

    I have not officially started my juicing and hope to complete it, i have started doing some more research on the subjects and here is one for the people crying fiber: http://www.rebootwithjoe.com/the-facts-on-fiber-juice/ I never had any problems...

    For protein i did try spirulina powder for a while but really did not like the taste so gave it up, i'll research to see if i can find some better replacement if i go for 60 days like i think i am now going to do.

    Out of interest has anyone see the film http://www.rebootwithjoe.com/watch-fat-sick-and-nearly-dead/ which inspired me to do this the first time?

    It's bogus!!
    How so?

    @shell1005 It's just stupid sauce!

    When stupidsauce gets put in Websters Dictionary.....I totally want credit.

    :wink:
  • an2h
    an2h Posts: 3 Member
    save the puree when you're old and have no teeth to chew your food. Right now, enjoy the texture and taste of your food. It's good for your teeth, its good for your mouth.
  • forgtmenot
    forgtmenot Posts: 860 Member
    blitz2011 wrote: »
    Glad to see this has sparked some debate...
    @forgtmenot i went vegetarian after juicing last year and i loved it, when i was on holiday i decided to go back to meat and found it to hard to leave it again (damn u tasty animals)... I want to go 100% veg after juicing this time too, hopefully i can.

    The point of this is not a long term thing, i think some people think i will want to do this all the time but it's just a detox to me, and just now i very much need a detox... It also seems to help me to do lots of other things like manage food cravings and altogether give me a better appreciation for food. As i said before this helped me loads before and i hope it will do the same this time. regaining the weight was as a result of returning to old eating habits after a holiday and not doing any exercise while working infront of a computer for 12 hours a day...

    I have not officially started my juicing and hope to complete it, i have started doing some more research on the subjects and here is one for the people crying fiber: http://www.rebootwithjoe.com/the-facts-on-fiber-juice/ I never had any problems...

    For protein i did try spirulina powder for a while but really did not like the taste so gave it up, i'll research to see if i can find some better replacement if i go for 60 days like i think i am now going to do.

    Out of interest has anyone see the film http://www.rebootwithjoe.com/watch-fat-sick-and-nearly-dead/ which inspired me to do this the first time?

    There are so many better sources of inspiration to eat a plant based diet. I've watched fat, sick, and nearly dead. I don't agree with juicing or with treating this as a temporary fix. It doesn't do any good to eat healthy if you just go back to eating crap again.

    I recommend the video on YouTube called "the best speech you will ever hear" by Gary yourofsky. Also, the video "101 reasons to go vegan" is great too.
  • senecarr
    senecarr Posts: 5,377 Member
    blitz2011 wrote: »
    Lol juice cooked meat... For 30 days u don't really need it, I tried organise proline powder in some juices for a bit but did not like it.

    I did a 60 day juice detox last year and lost over 3 stone and basically felt amazing, my dry skin disappeared and I did not get sick for months after. It can be hard at first but if u get past day 5 then it gets much easier.

    It sort of reset my eating brain process, it would get to lunch time and I would get up to go for lunch and realise I was not even hungry, it's just I'm program to eat at certain times, I don't even think I knew what hunger really was, I used to think it was when my stomach was not full...

    Just for argument sake, if someone said things like what you said: feel skin is better, appetite control, lots of energy, not feeling sick, but said they did it using meth, would you accept their testimony?
    When the person and the mind commit to something, especially so daunting as being on a starvation malnutrition plan, they tend to create confirmation bias to justify all that effort. You might have felt great doing it, and you might have convinced yourself you had condition improvements - maybe you even did by eliminating an allergen from your diet though I doubt it - but the facts don't support this being good for you.
    So just as you ( I hope) or I would want a meth user to listen to the science about it over a short experience or testimonial, I hope you'll do the same with the evidence presented here. Please reconsider. The people here may seem abrasive because they don't say what you want to here but consider they're doing so because they're more concerned about your health than giving you unconditional support.
  • kk_inprogress
    kk_inprogress Posts: 3,077 Member
    shell1005 wrote: »
    queenliz99 wrote: »
    blitz2011 wrote: »
    queenliz99 wrote: »
    blitz2011 wrote: »
    Glad to see this has sparked some debate...
    @forgtmenot i went vegetarian after juicing last year and i loved it, when i was on holiday i decided to go back to meat and found it to hard to leave it again (damn u tasty animals)... I want to go 100% veg after juicing this time too, hopefully i can.

    The point of this is not a long term thing, i think some people think i will want to do this all the time but it's just a detox to me, and just now i very much need a detox... It also seems to help me to do lots of other things like manage food cravings and altogether give me a better appreciation for food. As i said before this helped me loads before and i hope it will do the same this time. regaining the weight was as a result of returning to old eating habits after a holiday and not doing any exercise while working infront of a computer for 12 hours a day...

    I have not officially started my juicing and hope to complete it, i have started doing some more research on the subjects and here is one for the people crying fiber: http://www.rebootwithjoe.com/the-facts-on-fiber-juice/ I never had any problems...

    For protein i did try spirulina powder for a while but really did not like the taste so gave it up, i'll research to see if i can find some better replacement if i go for 60 days like i think i am now going to do.

    Out of interest has anyone see the film http://www.rebootwithjoe.com/watch-fat-sick-and-nearly-dead/ which inspired me to do this the first time?

    It's bogus!!
    How so?

    @shell1005 It's just stupid sauce!

    When stupidsauce gets put in Websters Dictionary.....I totally want credit.

    I can't even tell you how often I use that now.
  • Azexas
    Azexas Posts: 4,334 Member
    kkenseth wrote: »
    blitz2011 wrote: »
    kkenseth wrote: »
    blitz2011 wrote: »
    Glad to see this has sparked some debate...
    @forgtmenot i went vegetarian after juicing last year and i loved it, when i was on holiday i decided to go back to meat and found it to hard to leave it again (damn u tasty animals)... I want to go 100% veg after juicing this time too, hopefully i can.

    The point of this is not a long term thing, i think some people think i will want to do this all the time but it's just a detox to me, and just now i very much need a detox... It also seems to help me to do lots of other things like manage food cravings and altogether give me a better appreciation for food. As i said before this helped me loads before and i hope it will do the same this time. regaining the weight was as a result of returning to old eating habits after a holiday and not doing any exercise while working infront of a computer for 12 hours a day...

    I have not officially started my juicing and hope to complete it, i have started doing some more research on the subjects and here is one for the people crying fiber: http://www.rebootwithjoe.com/the-facts-on-fiber-juice/ I never had any problems...

    For protein i did try spirulina powder for a while but really did not like the taste so gave it up, i'll research to see if i can find some better replacement if i go for 60 days like i think i am now going to do.

    Out of interest has anyone see the film http://www.rebootwithjoe.com/watch-fat-sick-and-nearly-dead/ which inspired me to do this the first time?

    You need real inspiration. Like the kind that isn't a scam.

    Where is the scam? I am juicing my own fresh fruit and veg, nothing else?

    Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead as inspiration. It's a bogus documentary for the purpose of selling juicing equipment.

    Didn't he end up putting all the weight back on after the documentary also?
  • cmtigger
    cmtigger Posts: 1,450 Member
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    forgtmenot wrote: »
    I love how you high protein fans won't even address the FACT that osteoporosis is linked to eating large amounts of animal protein.

    I've never heard this before

    Low BMI..yes
    Menopause, hormones, adrenal issues yes

    But I've never heard of this link which is why I asked for the source

    There are studies that say too much protein causes your body to excrete calcium, which leads to kidney stones and osteoporosis. As far as I know it (the osteoporosis part) has been debunked much like many of our older studies where we drew improper conclusions.
    http://nutritionfacts.org/2014/07/31/does-animal-protein-cause-osteoporosis/

    This is why I struggle with getting enough, but not too much protein. I got in the habit of not eating much after two rounds of calcium oxalate stones in my 20's.

    It's also a reason why I'd be a really bad vegan. I have to limit dark green veggies.
  • Greenline30
    Greenline30 Posts: 36 Member
    As someone who has researched juice fasting, watched fat sick and nearly dead, and done many juice fasts myself... I can say whole heartedly that juicing can be a positive thing to incorporate into your life but juice FASTING can be dangerous and have many terrible side effects.

    I lost my hair from juice fasting which is NOT uncommon. Juice fasting shocks your system, much like sudden malnutrition, and a large percentage of people lose their hair. This isn't often traced back to juice fasting because the hair loss happens MONTHS after you've stopped the fast. I've done my research on this, but I implore you to do your own if you want to get into juice fasting.

    My hair has grown back, but the loss was devastating. Also, juice fasting is a quick way to lose weight. You lose poooounds in DAYS! Hurray right? No. Often times those pounds come back because the people juicing didn't develop healthy habits needed to sustain that weight loss. And when you lose weight quick, it comes back quick. Your body is more forgiving when you lose weight slowly. But quickly? Nope. Those nachos will appear on the scale as more than water weight after just a short period.

    In short, I warn against juice fasting. The whole rebooting your system is crap from my assessment. Yes, you do get energy and feel great after 5-8 days into a fast (I even worked out during my fasts and I DID have energy) BUT the after effects are terrible. My period still isn't normal...

    I want to be careful not to be preachy or judgmental. This is my assessment based on EXPERIENCE and my research, not just opinion. Be careful juice fasters. Be careful.
  • Therealobi1
    Therealobi1 Posts: 3,262 Member
    As someone who has researched juice fasting, watched fat sick and nearly dead, and done many juice fasts myself... I can say whole heartedly that juicing can be a positive thing to incorporate into your life but juice FASTING can be dangerous and have many terrible side effects.

    I lost my hair from juice fasting which is NOT uncommon. Juice fasting shocks your system, much like sudden malnutrition, and a large percentage of people lose their hair. This isn't often traced back to juice fasting because the hair loss happens MONTHS after you've stopped the fast. I've done my research on this, but I implore you to do your own if you want to get into juice fasting.

    My hair has grown back, but the loss was devastating. Also, juice fasting is a quick way to lose weight. You lose poooounds in DAYS! Hurray right? No. Often times those pounds come back because the people juicing didn't develop healthy habits needed to sustain that weight loss. And when you lose weight quick, it comes back quick. Your body is more forgiving when you lose weight slowly. But quickly? Nope. Those nachos will appear on the scale as more than water weight after just a short period.

    In short, I warn against juice fasting. The whole rebooting your system is crap from my assessment. Yes, you do get energy and feel great after 5-8 days into a fast (I even worked out during my fasts and I DID have energy) BUT the after effects are terrible. My period still isn't normal...

    I want to be careful not to be preachy or judgmental. This is my assessment based on EXPERIENCE and my research, not just opinion. Be careful juice fasters. Be careful.

    Thanks for sharing your experience. Hopefully this will help others
  • Greenline30
    Greenline30 Posts: 36 Member
    minie_me wrote: »
    Does this kind of diet really work? Wouldn't you just pile the weight back on as soon as you start to eat normal foods again?

    You do gain some of the weight back. That's normal. But you don't have to gain it all back if you eat a balanced diet after the fast from then on. Problem is, many people struggle with this long term. Not all, but many. Myself included when I had my many bouts with juice fasting. Fasting to lose weight is as mentally unhealthy as it is physically.

    Just do the work to lose weight. It's more rewarding and it's more likely to last. I'm starting all over and doing the work myself. I plan to keep the weight off this time. For good! No shortcuts disguised as "rebooting" or "detoxing" or "cleansing"
  • Kalikel
    Kalikel Posts: 9,603 Member
    blitz2011 wrote: »
    Glad to see this has sparked some debate...
    @forgtmenot i went vegetarian after juicing last year and i loved it, when i was on holiday i decided to go back to meat and found it to hard to leave it again (damn u tasty animals)... I want to go 100% veg after juicing this time too, hopefully i can.

    The point of this is not a long term thing, i think some people think i will want to do this all the time but it's just a detox to me, and just now i very much need a detox... It also seems to help me to do lots of other things like manage food cravings and altogether give me a better appreciation for food. As i said before this helped me loads before and i hope it will do the same this time. regaining the weight was as a result of returning to old eating habits after a holiday and not doing any exercise while working infront of a computer for 12 hours a day...

    I have not officially started my juicing and hope to complete it, i have started doing some more research on the subjects and here is one for the people crying fiber: [...xxx...] I never had any problems...

    For protein i did try spirulina powder for a while but really did not like the taste so gave it up, i'll research to see if i can find some better replacement if i go for 60 days like i think i am now going to do.

    Out of interest has anyone see the movie [...xxx...]which inspired me to do this the first time?
    You have been informed that this may be a diet that will harm you. You've been told to see a doctor before starting this.

    If you're hell-bent on doing it, then that is what you will do. I'm not going to argue abut it. It's your body, your health, your life.

    But the smart and reasonable thing to do is to the doctor and be sure that you have him on board before you proceed with this.

    Good luck.
  • Camo_xxx
    Camo_xxx Posts: 1,082 Member
    blitz2011 wrote: »
    Hello,

    I know juicing diet/detox has mixed opinions on here and I'm not interested in getting into a debate :)
    Is there anyone who fancies juicing for 30 days and to share stories and keep each other motivated?

    Thanks :)

    What juice should I drink to remove lead ? I want to remove any lead that may have accumulated over the years.
  • snowflake954
    snowflake954 Posts: 8,399 Member
    My husband always says "there are 2 types of people---those who will listen to good advice and take it, and those who have to fall on their face before they get it". Sorry, I'm translating an italian saying, but it sure applies here. OP, good luck, got to hand it to you you're set on something and won't quit. Too bad you won't apply that determination to eating right, and losing right. Let us know how you make out in a couple of months. Luck.
  • blitz2011
    blitz2011 Posts: 58 Member
    Thanks for the comments ppl, it's hard to answer everyone, i will write a detailed post about why i am doing this and how it has helped me in the past as there still seems to be misunderstanding but i can see why. (hopefully i will find time tomorrow to write it)
  • AnvilHead
    AnvilHead Posts: 18,343 Member
    blitz2011 wrote: »
    I have not officially started my juicing and hope to complete it, i have started doing some more research on the subjects and here is one for the people crying fiber: http://www.rebootwithjoe.com/the-facts-on-fiber-juice/ I never had any problems...

    Gee...and coincidentally enough, Joe has a quite extensive store on his website in which he sells books and juicers!
    For a mere $149.00 he offers a "15-day guided reboot". If you're more into the "30-day guided reboot", that's a mere $289.00. For another $49.00 he offers a "reboot recipe package". Such a deal!

    Pro tip: Reading a site where a scammer is peddling snake oil based upon bogus "documentaries" does not equal "doing some more research on the subjects".

    Pro tip #2: Your body/metabolism isn't a car or a computer. You can't "jump start" it or "reboot" it.


    I know all of this is falling on deaf ears as far as the OP because he's determined to do this despite being told over and over again that it's a bad idea, unhealthy and won't have any positive results. But maybe it'll help somebody else further down the line before they jump into doing something silly and counterproductive.
  • JoshLikesBeer
    JoshLikesBeer Posts: 88 Member
    I know you didn't want debate, but we wouldn't be doing our job as a fitness community if we didn't try to talk our fellow members out of doing something dangerous. Listen to the people in this thread. It is a really bad idea to go for so long with so little fat and protein.
  • pobalita
    pobalita Posts: 741 Member
    Does anyone else think OP is a troll? Come on, 5 pages in and he's still insisting that a juice fast is going to change his life? No one could be this dense.
  • Therealobi1
    Therealobi1 Posts: 3,262 Member
    pobalita wrote: »
    Does anyone else think OP is a troll? Come on, 5 pages in and he's still insisting that a juice fast is going to change his life? No one could be this dense.

    Not a troll, just not ready
  • icemaiden37
    icemaiden37 Posts: 238 Member
    senecarr wrote: »
    blitz2011 wrote: »
    Lol juice cooked meat... For 30 days u don't really need it, I tried organise proline powder in some juices for a bit but did not like it.

    I did a 60 day juice detox last year and lost over 3 stone and basically felt amazing, my dry skin disappeared and I did not get sick for months after. It can be hard at first but if u get past day 5 then it gets much easier.

    It sort of reset my eating brain process, it would get to lunch time and I would get up to go for lunch and realise I was not even hungry, it's just I'm program to eat at certain times, I don't even think I knew what hunger really was, I used to think it was when my stomach was not full...

    Just for argument sake, if someone said things like what you said: feel skin is better, appetite control, lots of energy, not feeling sick, but said they did it using meth, would you accept their testimony?
    When the person and the mind commit to something, especially so daunting as being on a starvation malnutrition plan, they tend to create confirmation bias to justify all that effort. You might have felt great doing it, and you might have convinced yourself you had condition improvements - maybe you even did by eliminating an allergen from your diet though I doubt it - but the facts don't support this being good for you.
    So just as you ( I hope) or I would want a meth user to listen to the science about it over a short experience or testimonial, I hope you'll do the same with the evidence presented here. Please reconsider. The people here may seem abrasive because they don't say what you want to here but consider they're doing so because they're more concerned about your health than giving you unconditional support.

    Really love the meth analogy!

    Your body detoxifies itself naturally through the action of the liver, kidneys and gastrointestinal (GI) tract. These organs remove toxins or harmful substances so since the body is always in a natural state of cleansing itself, nobody needs to do a juice cleanse or follow a liquid detox diet to be healthy.

    During the first few days of a juice cleanse, you will initially burn your glycogen stores for energy which pulls a lot of water out of the body (which shows up as weight loss on the scale). But the loss of water weight comes at the expense of a loss of muscle, which is a steep price to pay. Weight loss is not just about numbers on a scale, it's also about the ratio of body fat compared to lean muscle mass and the optimum outcome of a weight-loss program is to lose more fat than muscle. This won't happen on a restrictive diet like a cleanse because it's low in dietary protein and calories, and while doing one, someone might not have the energy to exercise, which can build muscle. Having more lean muscle and less body fat means burning more calories and boosting metabolism in the long run.

    Like other fad diets, cleansing and so-called detox diets promise a quick fix.
    Cleansing may produce short-term results, but it definitely doesn't produce long-term benefits.
    shell1005 wrote: »
    queenliz99 wrote: »
    blitz2011 wrote: »
    queenliz99 wrote: »
    blitz2011 wrote: »
    Glad to see this has sparked some debate...
    @forgtmenot i went vegetarian after juicing last year and i loved it, when i was on holiday i decided to go back to meat and found it to hard to leave it again (damn u tasty animals)... I want to go 100% veg after juicing this time too, hopefully i can.

    The point of this is not a long term thing, i think some people think i will want to do this all the time but it's just a detox to me, and just now i very much need a detox... It also seems to help me to do lots of other things like manage food cravings and altogether give me a better appreciation for food. As i said before this helped me loads before and i hope it will do the same this time. regaining the weight was as a result of returning to old eating habits after a holiday and not doing any exercise while working infront of a computer for 12 hours a day...

    I have not officially started my juicing and hope to complete it, i have started doing some more research on the subjects and here is one for the people crying fiber: http://www.rebootwithjoe.com/the-facts-on-fiber-juice/ I never had any problems...

    For protein i did try spirulina powder for a while but really did not like the taste so gave it up, i'll research to see if i can find some better replacement if i go for 60 days like i think i am now going to do.

    Out of interest has anyone see the film http://www.rebootwithjoe.com/watch-fat-sick-and-nearly-dead/ which inspired me to do this the first time?

    It's bogus!!
    How so?

    @shell1005 It's just stupid sauce!

    When stupidsauce gets put in Websters Dictionary.....I totally want credit.

    I'm looking forward to trying to use the word stupidsauce in real life today!
  • blitz2011
    blitz2011 Posts: 58 Member
    I know you didn't want debate, but we wouldn't be doing our job as a fitness community if we didn't try to talk our fellow members out of doing something dangerous. Listen to the people in this thread. It is a really bad idea to go for so long with so little fat and protein.

    Hi Josh, this seems to be the most sensible comment in a while. I have done this in the past and felt really healthy, i had no bad side effects infact only very very good side effects, i don't consider it dangerous i have done it and felt great. I do plan to take some sort of protein supplement, hopefully something i can juice, i did use some natural algae stuff last time but it did not taste good so i did not take very much. For the fats i'm not sure i need them, i had zero last time bar whatever i got from the juice, i have been tempted to have a few cashew nuts or something but to me that would be technically breaking the juicing and might lead to me failing.
  • blitz2011
    blitz2011 Posts: 58 Member
    OK instead of trying to reply to all the other comments hopefully this will explain things a little but knowing my luck will enrage you more lol.

    I started a blog site about my juicing and no this is not some marketing scam, i'm not selling anything, i am simply a webdeveloper and wanted to blog about it (i bought the domain after this post was started, you can check)
    http://60dayjuice.com/about/

    About
    OK here goes… Firstly i am a 30 year old male and i have struggled with my weight for about the last 10 years, when i was younger i played a lot of football (soccer for the americans) and didn’t have any problems then.

    My job means i am behind a computer for about 10-12 hours a day and find it hard to find the time to exercise. I am a web developer hence the website (i said developer, NOT designer).

    Past success and failures:
    My usual weight for the last 5 years has been about 265-280lb though in 2011 i lost a load of weigh through exercise and a calorie controlled diet, i don’t remember the exact weight i got down to, the last entry i had was 238lb but i am sure it was more than that. After a short holiday i really struggled to get back into the exercise routine and slowly started to get back into bad habits and put the weight back on. Back then when i was doing my calorie controlled diet i was eating very unhealthily, my average day would consist of some cereal in the morning, some super noodles and a can of tuna for lunch and usually one of those again for dinner.

    In 2014 i did my first 60 day juice, i had watched the film “fat sick and nearly dead” where the presenter does a 60 day juice. I was a bit sceptical at first and thought there is no way someone could survive on only juice for 60 days but watching the film and reading other peoples success stories convinced me to give it a try. I set out to do 10 days at first but after 10 days it was finding it easy and was full of energy and feeling healthy so i continued on for another 50 days. The result was i lost over 50lb in 60 days! The weight was not the only thing though, i felt much healthier in general, my dry skin on my face was gone and i did not get a single cold, flu or bug for about 7 months which is highly unusual for me.

    The juicing in 2014 has a few unexpected consequences, I had learned to know when i was hungry and when i was full, this might sound strange but my usual “hunger” signals i felt seems to be just when my stomach was not full instead of actual hunger, from then on after the juicing i would try to eat only when actually hungry. It also made me read up on nutrition and healthy foods and i ended up watching a lot of cookery programmes on youtube while juicing and once i finished i was cooking for me and my partner everyday and cooking good healthy food, making my own hummus, curries, soups and allsorts, i had stopped buying processed food altogether and was making everything fresh, i really enjoyed the cooking and the food, any leftovers i would freeze and could have the nights i did not fancy cooking. I kept this up and was eating healthy for 5 months, then i had a holiday to Germany and i sort of went into this holiday mode where i would just eat and drink as much as possible, i was eating until absolutely stuffed and when i got back from holiday that trend continued, this was me falling into my old ways, i can see it now but then when you are going off the rails you tend to avoid the scales and deny it. I had got back into the habit of eating takeaways and eating whenever i was not full instead of only when hungry and again eating until it was uncomfortable and put the weight back on.

    Why am i fat?
    Well to be honest monday-friday i don’t really eat very much, not more than my partner but she had a job where she is on her feet all day and i have a job where i am on a computer all day… When i am busy with work i can end up working over 12 hours a day and i struggle to find the time to exercise. My main problem is the weekend, i go out with friends or even have some drinks in the house, usually it will involve takeaways also and when i am drunk i will eat everything in sight, even to the point where it really hurts my stomach and on those days i must consume a crazy amount of calories. I would see this when i was going to they gym every night, i would lose weight mon-fri and then after the weekend and the monday weigh-in i would have put most of it back on.

    The future plans:
    I hope this time i can learn from my past failures and get to a healthy weight. The 60 day juice helped me get to the point i was happy and healthy and cooking good food, infact i learned so much about cooking when i was juicing just from watching youtube videos. I hope this time it will have the same results and it will break my bad habits and i can relearn the good ones. During the juicing i plan to go swimming every morning and do a daily weigh-in, i will try and increase my swim times each week but starting off slow. After the juicing my plan is to start hitting the gym and get my cardio levels up so hopefully i can get back into the sports. I plan on cooking healthy meals like i was before and really learning from my mistakes, by that i plan to weigh myself 1-2 times a week at least as i know when things go bad i avoid the scales and things just get worse. I also hope i can break the cycle of boozy weekends and takeaways, infact i hope to avoid takeaways completely and if hunger strikes i can go to my freezer for some of my healthy stuff. If i can get back into football i know that will help and be much more fun than jogging on a treadmill and i also plan on climbing a few mountains.

    That’s the plan anyway, let’s see how it goes…
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