I do what with butter...?

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  • jemhh
    jemhh Posts: 14,261 Member
    @WinoGelato
    My ex is my ex because I finally decided he didn't deserve me. That b@st@rd cheated on me and lied to me about EVERYTHING.
    I'm trying to pick up the broken pieces of my life because I devoted 5 years to him, and he was my support system because my family wasn't there for me, judged me and made it hard to go to them for anything emotionally.
    Now that my support system is totally gone...its left me alone and truly finding out what it's like to be a strong independent woman.

    Sounds like a great person from whom to take advice.
  • Christine_72
    Christine_72 Posts: 16,049 Member
    @Mallybear2020 join this group and read the FAQ section. No, you don't have to eat straight up butter.. There are many other options available to you.

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/394-low-carber-daily-forum-the-lcd-group
  • AllOutof_Bubblegum
    AllOutof_Bubblegum Posts: 3,646 Member
    @WinoGelato
    My ex is my ex because I finally decided he didn't deserve me. That b@st@rd cheated on me and lied to me about EVERYTHING.
    I'm trying to pick up the broken pieces of my life because I devoted 5 years to him, and he was my support system because my family wasn't there for me, judged me and made it hard to go to them for anything emotionally.
    Now that my support system is totally gone...its left me alone and truly finding out what it's like to be a strong independent woman.

    He lied to you about everything, yet you still want to take his diet and fitness advice as gospel?

  • Mallybear2020
    Mallybear2020 Posts: 82 Member
    edited December 2015
    @WinoGelato
    Why do I think he's all knowing? Picture yourself in a captive situation, and you develop Stockholm syndrome.
    I'm trying to get away from the things he taught me and learn the right way.
    This was all I knew, all I trusted and all that I lived. I had no one else to help me but him. And don't get me wrong, he honestly was good, but I peeled back the layers of a rotten onion and found out the truth to him.
  • WinoGelato
    WinoGelato Posts: 13,454 Member
    @WinoGelato
    My ex is my ex because I finally decided he didn't deserve me. That b@st@rd cheated on me and lied to me about EVERYTHING.
    I'm trying to pick up the broken pieces of my life because I devoted 5 years to him, and he was my support system because my family wasn't there for me, judged me and made it hard to go to them for anything emotionally.
    Now that my support system is totally gone...its left me alone and truly finding out what it's like to be a strong independent woman.

    He lied to you about everything, yet you still want to take his diet and fitness advice as gospel?

    This. This is the point I am trying to make...

    OP, I'm sorry you were in an abusive, controlling relationship. I really can't give you any advice on how to deal with that, other than to suggest maybe talking to a counselor. If you want advice about how to lose weight though, in a healthy, sustainable way - you've gotten plenty of it here.

  • tulips_and_tea
    tulips_and_tea Posts: 5,744 Member
    WinoGelato wrote: »
    @WinoGelato
    My ex is my ex because I finally decided he didn't deserve me. That b@st@rd cheated on me and lied to me about EVERYTHING.
    I'm trying to pick up the broken pieces of my life because I devoted 5 years to him, and he was my support system because my family wasn't there for me, judged me and made it hard to go to them for anything emotionally.
    Now that my support system is totally gone...its left me alone and truly finding out what it's like to be a strong independent woman.

    I think you are missing my point - although good for you for getting out of a bad relationship...

    Why would you think that your ex is all knowing about how you need to lose weight? Why are you so insistent on relying on LC and IF simply because he told you that's what you needed to do?

    I think the answer to this is something the OP said earlier: " I listened to him and he's the reason why 2 years ago I was at 150lbs and got down to 112." Then she got grief from her family for losing weight and let it derail her and then she put back on too much. I could be wrong of course, but that's what I gathered from her post.
  • AllOutof_Bubblegum
    AllOutof_Bubblegum Posts: 3,646 Member

    @janejellyroll
    The longest I gave it was a month, then I hit about 135 and I couldn't lose anymore. Then I had a cheat day and had to start things back up again. This has happened off and on for months now, and it seems like it's hard for me to lose any past 128lbs, but so far I have gotten past that and I'm at 125lbs.

    That wasn't fat weight you were losing. When you eat low carb, you quickly use up stores of glycogen in your muscles and liver, resulting in a rapid 5-10lb weight loss. People get really excited about it, thinking their diet is "working", until they get too weak/hungry/bored and eat carbs again. Then they gain their glycogen stores back, and then cycle with low-carbing/weight loss and carb-bingeing/weight gain over and over again.

  • jgnatca
    jgnatca Posts: 14,464 Member
    You know why low carbers think it works? Because as soon as they eat anything close to normal carb intake, they bloat up in water weight the next day. The scale doesn't lie, does it?

    My son used to slice up butter and eat it like cheese. He grew up normally. Cheese might be more pleasant than butter, and nearly as high in calories.
  • TeaBea
    TeaBea Posts: 14,517 Member
    @quiksylver296
    Not to be rude, but that depends how much you weigh currently.
    Example: If I weighed 200lbs and all I ate was pizza and ice cream, then I'd expect to lose some but not hit my goal weight of say 130. Because after a while my body will start to maintain according to what I am eating.

    No - false

    Your body doesn't have different calorie limits based upon what types of food you eat. Your body has different calorie limits based upon your size, your activity level, any exercise done, and the amount of lean muscle you have.

    For example: I maintain my weight at 1650 calories (I'm old). It doesn't matter whether I eat 1650 in fat or protein or carbs...it's still just 1650 calories. But it's much easier to over eat pizza than it is to over eat broccoli.

    Now, the reason I don't eat a pure carb diet is that my body needs protein and fat everyday. The reason I don't eat a pure protein diet is that my body needs energy (carbs) and fats everyday. Besides carbs taste yummy.

    I choose a lower fat diet (than most people) out of necessity. High fat meals give me acid reflux. IF you have medical issue re: carbs....then by all means limit them. But even many diabetics eat a modest amount of carbs.
  • Mallybear2020
    Mallybear2020 Posts: 82 Member
    edited December 2015
    @BZAH10
    That's correct.

    Ladies and gentlemen. Just take a moment to picture your ideal/perfect man or woman.
    That's what I HAD for 2 years in my relationship. This guy helped me in school, lose weight, face bullies, accompanied me when I got sick, helped me with EVERYTHING. Some of you may have no clue what it feels like to have found what you thought was your soul mate.
    Now picture 2 years you find out your true love was based on a lie. You find out he cheated, and get this. Wants to stay with the girl that he cheated with AND YOU. Wants to have a polyamorous relationship,BS thing going on. Then you also find out he lied to you about a million other things.
    Good bye perfect man and support.
    Hello single life, where you have to relearn life.
  • Mallybear2020
    Mallybear2020 Posts: 82 Member
    edited December 2015
    @BZAH10
    Sorry to rant about my ex and go off on a rabbit trail. It's a work in progress to fix me now.
    Back to health.
  • auddii
    auddii Posts: 15,357 Member
    Ok, I completely don't agree that your way of eating sounds sustainable or healthy for you right now.

    That said, towards your actual question, don't eat things you don't enjoy. If you want to incorporate more fats into your diet, great, go for it. I'd avoid straight butter. I've seen several keto people post about "fat bombs". I was intrigued because I'm usually under my fat allowance. Some of the recipes sounded tasty, although personally a spoonful of peanut butter makes more sense (shelf stable at work, and I could eat peanut butter all day long, so it's a snack I enjoy).

    Also, if you like coffee, you could look into "bullet proof coffee"*. Sounds gross to me, but I know a lot of people love it (apparently blending the coffee and butter/oil makes all the difference).

    *Not actually bullet proof. Please avoid jumping in front of a bullet.
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    edited December 2015
    @BZAH10
    Sorry to rant about my ex and go off on a rabbit trail. It's a work in progress to fix me now.
    Back to health.

    We all have a b@stard in our past

    Someone generally we are still partly in love with because there was a reason we were so smitten

    So what?

    There is much better out there in your future...there could be the one, or the many, who knock him, or her, out of the water

    I'm the wise old woman of folklore ..which means you have to listen to me ;)

    I've got my b@stard in my past, I've got the guy who blew him out of the water, and then I've got the man I married and have lived with happily for almost 20 years ....we are closer now than we have ever been ...we are content with waves of happiness

    It happens

    If you allow it to

    You get over bad love affairs
  • Mallybear2020
    Mallybear2020 Posts: 82 Member
    @rabbitjb
    I don't plan on ever getting back into a relationship. I know that sounds harsh, but I can't allow anyone else to ever take advantage of me like that again. I trust no one with my heart.
    I can do what I need to do in life alone. There's nothing wrong with that.
  • OyGeeBiv
    OyGeeBiv Posts: 733 Member
    • You've come here asking for advice.
    • You're wary of taking the advice you asked for because your ex was a total jerk and liar, and you don't feel like you can trust anyone right now.
    • You kind of know that what you've been eating isn't right, which is why you asked for advice in the first place.
    • You feel like you don't have a real support system in your life right now.

    News for you:
    • MFP is an absolute wealth of support from people who have no reason on earth to lie to you.
    • Your ex's eating plan isn't working for you in the long term.
    • You're absolutely not the only person who's known true love, and had it end.

    Suggestions:
    • Make your food diary public so people can give actual specific ideas.
    • Eat nutrient dense foods in the proper amounts to get as close as possible to your goal calories every single day.
    • "Friend" some people here to get support, and give support.
    • Understand that you're in mourning for the relationship and the life you thought you had. Do some research about mourning. Buckle up, it may be a bumpy ride. It'll be a tiny bit easier if you know what to expect and have some strategies in place to deal with it.

    Remember this when you're having a tough moment: Living well is the best revenge.

  • jgnatca
    jgnatca Posts: 14,464 Member
    You may have been more a possession in his mind than an independent person. But of course you are far more than that.
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    auddii wrote: »
    Ok, I completely don't agree that your way of eating sounds sustainable or healthy for you right now.

    That said, towards your actual question, don't eat things you don't enjoy. If you want to incorporate more fats into your diet, great, go for it. I'd avoid straight butter. I've seen several keto people post about "fat bombs". I was intrigued because I'm usually under my fat allowance. Some of the recipes sounded tasty, although personally a spoonful of peanut butter makes more sense (shelf stable at work, and I could eat peanut butter all day long, so it's a snack I enjoy).

    Also, if you like coffee, you could look into "bullet proof coffee"*. Sounds gross to me, but I know a lot of people love it (apparently blending the coffee and butter/oil makes all the difference).

    *Not actually bullet proof. Please avoid jumping in front of a bullet.

    I think official bullet proof coffee is 1 tablespoon butter and 1 tablespoon coconut oil, which is too much fat for me, but I like 1 teaspoon each, plus protein powder, as a snack or to bring to the gym.
  • mcpostelle
    mcpostelle Posts: 418 Member
    I also am extremely sensitive to carbs and sugars and eat 10g or less of carbs per day. My sugar goal is 0g. Eat more fatty cuts of meat and dollop some butter on it. My saving grace is HWC (heavy whipping cream). 1 table spoon = 100 calories. :) Feel free to add me as a friend. I keep my diary open, but haven't logged in these past few days. Have you tried melting butter then using it as a sauce?
  • tulips_and_tea
    tulips_and_tea Posts: 5,744 Member
    @BZAH10
    Sorry to rant about my ex and go off on a rabbit trail. It's a work in progress to fix me now.
    Back to health.

    No need to apologize. I think those facts are relevant to your learning new, healthy habits for weight loss. As @rabbitjb said, we all have our pasts to deal with and they do factor into our present. It's a matter of learning from the past, growing from it, and letting go of the bad feelings and baggage. You can do it! But learn what works for YOU, not someone else.
  • mcpostelle
    mcpostelle Posts: 418 Member
    BethM1015 wrote: »
    When I had a hard time getting enough calories on the paleo diet, I sometimes ate Kerry Gold salted butter by itself. I have also heard of people taking shots of olive oil to get enough calories. I didn't read all the posts. Anyone suggested peanut butter?

    peanut butter has too many carbs. And too high in protein for some one eating <20g of carbs.

    OP, maybe mayo? I will mix in a bunch of mayo and make deviled eggs with meat on top. Yum!

  • Mallybear2020
    Mallybear2020 Posts: 82 Member
    @mcpostelle

    Mayo works.
  • OyGeeBiv
    OyGeeBiv Posts: 733 Member
    mcpostelle wrote: »

    peanut butter has too many carbs. And too high in protein for some one eating <20g of carbs.

    Too high in protein for someone eating low carb? Wut?
  • Mallybear2020
    Mallybear2020 Posts: 82 Member
    @64crayons
    Sometimes if you eat too much protein it will get converted and make you gain weight.
  • OyGeeBiv
    OyGeeBiv Posts: 733 Member
    @64crayons
    Sometimes if you eat too much protein it will get converted and make you gain weight.

    Okay, now you've totally lost me.
  • jgnatca
    jgnatca Posts: 14,464 Member
    Oh my goodness. Eat too much of anything you gain weight. You gain weight from the block of butter. Protein and carbs have nearly half the calories of fat by weight.
  • Mallybear2020
    Mallybear2020 Posts: 82 Member
    edited December 2015
    @64crayons
    If you eat too much protein it gets converted into glucose, glucose goes up and that will make fat store. Basically if you eat too much of it it'll turn into sugar/carbs that you didn't mean to put in your body.
  • ultrahoon
    ultrahoon Posts: 467 Member
    @64crayons
    If you eat too much protein it gets converted into glucose, glucose goes up and that will make fat store. Basically if you eat too much of it it'll turn into sugar/carbs that you didn't mean to put in your body.

    Nope.
  • Mallybear2020
    Mallybear2020 Posts: 82 Member
    @ultrahoon
    Then what?
  • ultrahoon
    ultrahoon Posts: 467 Member
    edited December 2015
    @ultrahoon
    Then what?

    Any surplus of calories will make your fat stores go up over time. No deficit of calories will. The content of those calories is irrelevant from a loss/gain perspective. This is a point that has been made many times in this thread. Throw out your old knowledge and start fresh with your conceptions of weight loss/gain.
  • stevencloser
    stevencloser Posts: 8,911 Member
    edited December 2015
    No, this is completely wrong. Not you ultrahoon, I mean op.
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