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Apple Cider Vinegar
Khovde07
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I was talking with my sister this weekend and telling her how my weight loss was going. She suggested taking 2 tablespoons of apple cider vinegar in the morning. Apparently some people swear by it. Something about alkaline and acidity. I started to tune her out as soon as she started because it sounded pretty hokey and the women in my family have a reputation of losing weight in the non-healthy way and trying to drag me into it (think eating 500 calories a day).
But I'm having trouble seeing how this could be dangerous with only 1-2 tablespoons a day. It still seems hokey to me, though. Google articles were pretty split in opinions. Has anyone else heard of using ACV?
But I'm having trouble seeing how this could be dangerous with only 1-2 tablespoons a day. It still seems hokey to me, though. Google articles were pretty split in opinions. Has anyone else heard of using ACV?
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Yes it comes up almost daily here.
It's hokey/woo/whatever term you want to use, with regards to claims that it aids in weight loss or fat burning.
Some people say it can aid in settling an upset stomach or other 'non-weight' related uses, which I imagine probably varies from person to person.
The danger - if taking it raw - is primarily the damage it can cause to tooth enamel.0 -
I get fairly awful reflux and am trying to avoid Barrett's Esophagus like my mom (thanks, genetics). 2tsp of ACV in the morning helps me. I don't think it magically melts away fat, or is a miracle cure-all. I drink it mixed in hot water with a little lemon and cayenne for flavor (I like the spicy) and to clear up my sinuses.0
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It's nice to dress a salad with a little olive oil.1
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http://junkfoodscience.blogspot.ca/2008/04/houston-we-have-problem-apple-cider.html
While apple cider vinegar is relatively harmless for most people as normally consumed, believing it can cure, prevent or treat health problems also puts people at risk who are deterred from seeking needed medical care for serious health issues. M.D. Anderson, according to Natural Standard Monograph (2007), also warns that theoretically, long-term use could diminish bone mineral density and interact with and increase the risk of toxicity of cardiac glycoside prescriptions, such as digoxin; and potentiate the potassium-lowering effects of insulin, laxatives and diuretics, such as Lasix.0 -
http://authoritynutrition.com/6-proven-health-benefits-of-apple-cider-vinegar/
This one ... seems to think there may be benefits of all sorts.
My sisters primary care physician recently adviced she take up drinking a mixture of organic apple cider vinegar and warm water in the morning as a possible assist in her battle with goaty arthritis that she got from being on a low-carb/high-protein diet to reduce her diabetic high sugars. She reduced her AiC but ended up with acidosis and has been under care for that for the past 2 years now.
I doubt he would have recommended she give it a try if he didn't think there was at least some chance that it would benefit her and, at least, do no harm.0 -
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rankinsect wrote: »
Oh I've never tried it for a marinade but that sounds like an awesome idea!0 -
Oooooo.......please share!rankinsect wrote: »
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rankinsect wrote: »
It's amazing in chocolate cakes (put in enough to make it fluffy, not enough to taste it).0 -
I love ACV I use it to preserve beetroot and as a salad dressing I also drink 2tbls daily with water (the alkaline/acidity thing is not true though) I use it as its a mild diuretic and helps keep my water retention under control without medication0
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Substitute ACV for the regular vinegar in vinegar pie (http://www.heritagerecipes.com/pie-recipes/vinegar-pie.htm). Tastes like an apple pie, texture of a custard.0
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I haven't read much about ACV, but I use it regularly to reduce water bloat. A friend swears by 10 ml. in water before a meal says it's help reduce the amount he eats and has lost 30kg.0
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When I first started losing weight, I did the one tablespoon before meals thing. Literally choked it down. Did this for a week and realized it really started to taste more and more like vomit every time I did it. So then I did some research and lo and behold! It's total bs. In fact the largest source of all of the benefits of ACV was from the site of the biggest producer of it. No conflict of interest, there.
So now the bottle in my fridge is only used for salad dressing.
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Does anyone know where this dietary fad started, anyway?1
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Does anyone know where this dietary fad started, anyway?
No ... but I do know the cider vinegar as a cure has been around for many decades. I have a family member who took cider vinegar tonics before breakfast every day more than 30 years ago to help with arthritic pain. It didn't do anything but give him acid indigestion years later.0 -
Does anyone know where this dietary fad started, anyway?
Hippocrates and Galen advocated using apple cider vinegar, and it has been used well into the 1900s in the form of "switchel," an old timey energy drink of water, vinegar, ginger and honey. Agricultural workers would drink it during hot, demanding activities like haymaking. Today it's all the rage with the hipsters. Apparently ACV has been used for generations in North Africa as a weight loss technique according to one Dutch peer reviewed article that focused on a Moroccan girl destroying her teeth. A quick search of PubMed shows that most of the peer reviewed articles on ACV involve people destroying their teeth and bones or burning themselves.
Just because it is not supported in the current peer reviewed lit doesn't mean it doesn't work, however. Hippocrates and Galen also advocated honey for healing wounds, and just within the past few years the medical community has been raving about this great new antibacterial...honey! Vinegar also has antibacterial properties, and researchers are just starting to look into the benefits of fermentation, where unpasteurized cider might play a key role.
Regarding weight loss, i think there is a lot to be said for the placebo effect, considering that the ability to lose weight is overwhelmingly a mental game. As long as the qty used is small and well diluted, it's not going to hurt to drink an unproven magical potion if it serves as the cornerstone for other heathy habits. It's no weirder a magical crutch than subtracting the weight of your eggshells from your calories count, a discussion I read with interest and amusement last week.0 -
jmbmilholland wrote: »Does anyone know where this dietary fad started, anyway?
Hippocrates and Galen advocated using apple cider vinegar, and it has been used well into the 1900s in the form of "switchel," an old timey energy drink of water, vinegar, ginger and honey. Agricultural workers would drink it during hot, demanding activities like haymaking. Today it's all the rage with the hipsters. Apparently ACV has been used for generations in North Africa as a weight loss technique according to one Dutch peer reviewed article that focused on a Moroccan girl destroying her teeth. A quick search of PubMed shows that most of the peer reviewed articles on ACV involve people destroying their teeth and bones or burning themselves.
Just because it is not supported in the current peer reviewed lit doesn't mean it doesn't work, however. Hippocrates and Galen also advocated honey for healing wounds, and just within the past few years the medical community has been raving about this great new antibacterial...honey! Vinegar also has antibacterial properties, and researchers are just starting to look into the benefits of fermentation, where unpasteurized cider might play a key role.
Regarding weight loss, i think there is a lot to be said for the placebo effect, considering that the ability to lose weight is overwhelmingly a mental game. As long as the qty used is small and well diluted, it's not going to hurt to drink an unproven magical potion if it serves as the cornerstone for other heathy habits. It's no weirder a magical crutch than subtracting the weight of your eggshells from your calories count, a discussion I read with interest and amusement last week.
The one problem with using woo as a weight loss tool is that a person believes that is what helps them and doesn't pay attention to what really causes weight loss. I'm not saying everyone who tries the ACV tonics will be a yo-yo dieter, but it seems to me that a lot of people that try things like that are constantly gaining weight back once they lose it. Someone who uses that while learning how to adjust their eating habits would probably be fine, but that appears to a be a small minority of people.0 -
Does anyone know where this dietary fad started, anyway?
My grandparents used it for years in cooking, for medicinal purposes and we have always used it on the farm, for the chooks as a mild antibacterial when molting, the goats for rumin troubles and Chrystalization in urinary track, the horses drink it also. Nan used it for water retention (as I do) pop used it for gout.....it's been around for many many years!
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summerkissed wrote: »Does anyone know where this dietary fad started, anyway?
My grandparents used it for years in cooking, for medicinal purposes and we have always used it on the farm, for the chooks as a mild antibacterial when molting, the goats for rumin troubles and Chrystalization in urinary track, the horses drink it also. Nan used it for water retention (as I do) pop used it for gout.....it's been around for many many years!
If they used it for medicinal purposes, doesn't it make it a medicine?0
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