Diet Coke vs Water??-- 0 cals vs 0 cals
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WaterBunnie wrote: »CICO wise there's very little between them, but has anyone ever looked at the ingredients list and thought they would be even vaguely health giving? I used to drink it thinking it was a great way to get sweetness without the calories but I've since learned that it's better to retrain your taste buds so that you don't crave it to start with.
Then don't eat eggs! They're full of chemicals!
OMG!
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Diet soda increases appetite0
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365daystofitgirl wrote: »Diet soda increases appetite
Nope, I haven't found that to be true.0 -
365daystofitgirl wrote: »Diet soda increases appetite
Maybe for some people.
It doesn't for me.
So I drink it.
If you find it causes problems for you, don't drink it. But don't use your own experience to make blanket assertions.0 -
Zero is zero, I think it is like anything, all things in moderation. I like diet soda pop, and I try to drink at least 64 ounces of water too.0
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I don't drink diet sodas because they contain a lot of Dihydrogen Monoxide (DHMO)
In case you didn't know about the dangers of DHMO.
Death due to accidental inhalation of DHMO, even in small quantities.
Prolonged exposure to solid DHMO causes severe tissue damage.
Excessive ingestion produces a number of unpleasant though not typically life-threatening side-effects.
DHMO is a major component of acid rain.
Gaseous DHMO can cause severe burns.
Contributes to soil erosion.
Leads to corrosion and oxidation of many metals.
Contamination of electrical systems often causes short-circuits.
Exposure decreases effectiveness of automobile brakes.
Found in biopsies of pre-cancerous tumors and lesions.
Given to vicious dogs involved in recent deadly attacks.
Often associated with killer cyclones in the U.S. Midwest and elsewhere, and in hurricanes including deadly storms in Florida, New Orleans and other areas of the southeastern U.S.
Thermal variations in DHMO are a suspected contributor to the El Nino weather effect.
http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html
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I don't drink diet sodas because they contain a lot of Dihydrogen Monoxide (DHMO)
In case you didn't know about the dangers of DHMO.
Death due to accidental inhalation of DHMO, even in small quantities.
Prolonged exposure to solid DHMO causes severe tissue damage.
Excessive ingestion produces a number of unpleasant though not typically life-threatening side-effects.
DHMO is a major component of acid rain.
Gaseous DHMO can cause severe burns.
Contributes to soil erosion.
Leads to corrosion and oxidation of many metals.
Contamination of electrical systems often causes short-circuits.
Exposure decreases effectiveness of automobile brakes.
Found in biopsies of pre-cancerous tumors and lesions.
Given to vicious dogs involved in recent deadly attacks.
Often associated with killer cyclones in the U.S. Midwest and elsewhere, and in hurricanes including deadly storms in Florida, New Orleans and other areas of the southeastern U.S.
Thermal variations in DHMO are a suspected contributor to the El Nino weather effect.
http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html
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I know that the artificial sweetener in diet soda is not good for ur body. I like drinking water with fresh lemon juice.0
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Is anyone even reading the thread at this point?0
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Since it hasn't been reposted on this page: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1308408/why-aspartame-isnt-scary0
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Isn't most sweeteners made up of 2 amino acids? I'm quite sure that makes it pretty safe0
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If you truly want to do calories in/out then you will definitely lose weight. You may however be making it a little bit harder to stick to your alotted calories for the day. When you drink diet coke for instance, the sweet taste triggers your brain to release dopamine, which triggers the reward center of your brain. Leptin is also released which is your appetite hormone. However, when you consume something that tastes sweet but doesn't contain any calories, your brain's pleasure pathway still gets activated by the sweet taste, but there's nothing to deactivate it, since the calories never arrive. Thus, you get cravings for carbs.
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2014/12/23/artificial-sweeteners-confuse-body.aspx
I suggest reading this article. Not just for diet coke, but also for all artificial sweeteners. Do you really want to put chemicals in your body like that though which could also cause tumors like one previous poster said as well? My mom drank maybe 4 or more bottles of 20oz diet coke a day for probably 10+ years. She had a tumor on her thyroid which had to be removed. Now im not saying its because of the diet coke, but its just a little scary. Theres no history of cancer in our family.
All in all I have only had maybe 3 sodas in the last 1.5 years. I only drink water or unsweetened iced tea otherwise. But if you have to, create balance with it. From my experience, soda DOES NOT taste worse after 3 months or more like some people say lol. I hadnt had any soda for maybe 9 months and let me tell you it was the best damn thing ive ever sipped before. Despite that, I choose not to drink it because of the chemicals.
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2014/12/23/artificial-sweeteners-confuse-body.aspx
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My favorite woo thread by far.0
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All the references are listed at the bottom of the page, you may enjoy diet drinks and treats with aspartame etc. but don't say that it's healthy or it has no effect on our health, it's more dangerous than sugar...
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2014/10/01/artificial-sweeteners-raise-diabetes-risk.aspx0 -
diannethegeek wrote: »Is anyone even reading the thread at this point?
It appears not.
I'm not surprised.0 -
All the references are listed at the bottom of the page, you may enjoy diet drinks and treats with aspartame etc. but don't say that it's healthy or it has no effect on our health, it's more dangerous than sugar...
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2014/10/01/artificial-sweeteners-raise-diabetes-risk.aspx
You know that mercola is on of the biggest spreaders of woo around right?0 -
All the references are listed at the bottom of the page, you may enjoy diet drinks and treats with aspartame etc. but don't say that it's healthy or it has no effect on our health, it's more dangerous than sugar...
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2014/10/01/artificial-sweeteners-raise-diabetes-risk.aspx
Mercola is an AIDS denialist who thinks sunscreen gives you cancer. I don't think I'm going to stop drinking soda on the advice of someone who also thinks microwaves are dangerous.0 -
Would it not be prudent to use a little common sense here? First off anything in an unreasonable quantity is unhealthy. Things that can be considered healthy. (i.e. Water in too large of concentration flushes out the needed electrolytes in the body to get your heart to fire properly {potassium, and sodium}). A calorie is a calorie, but may not be created equal. For example. there would be calories in wood pulp of a maple tree if consumed, since it's organic material. However, the cellulose in it would not be as desirable for use to the body. It may also have a detrimental impact if it contains, natural chemicals the body is adverse to, or unable to breakdown, verses let's say the caloric value of kale. Also, an organic caloric plant source, however, the body is capable of breaking the chemical compounds down, and use them as a viable source of energy.
This is the same as saying 1 pound of fat is not equal to one pound of muscle. One pound is one pound, however, the volume of space it takes up is greater, since their molecular density is different.
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All the references are listed at the bottom of the page, you may enjoy diet drinks and treats with aspartame etc. but don't say that it's healthy or it has no effect on our health, it's more dangerous than sugar...
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2014/10/01/artificial-sweeteners-raise-diabetes-risk.aspx
The minute you linked Mercola you lost credibility. He's hardly a reputable source.0 -
singingflutelady wrote: »All the references are listed at the bottom of the page, you may enjoy diet drinks and treats with aspartame etc. but don't say that it's healthy or it has no effect on our health, it's more dangerous than sugar...
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2014/10/01/artificial-sweeteners-raise-diabetes-risk.aspx
You know that mercola is on of the biggest spreaders of woo around right?
Have you checked the references, don't you think 'Yale journal of biology and medicine' is a trustworthy source?0 -
janejellyroll wrote: »All the references are listed at the bottom of the page, you may enjoy diet drinks and treats with aspartame etc. but don't say that it's healthy or it has no effect on our health, it's more dangerous than sugar...
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2014/10/01/artificial-sweeteners-raise-diabetes-risk.aspx
Mercola is an AIDS denialist who thinks sunscreen gives you cancer. I don't think I'm going to stop drinking soda on the advice of someone who also thinks microwaves are dangerous.
LOL, I need to save this phrase exactly for the next time that name comes up.0 -
I love diet soda, but sweetener makes me bloat, plus, in large amounts, it's a laxative, so you'd have to drink 2 cups at most or something. Not only that, but several sweeteners (saccharin is the one i remember most clearly) are linked to increasing your chances of cancer. But then again, everything in moderation.0
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singingflutelady wrote: »All the references are listed at the bottom of the page, you may enjoy diet drinks and treats with aspartame etc. but don't say that it's healthy or it has no effect on our health, it's more dangerous than sugar...
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2014/10/01/artificial-sweeteners-raise-diabetes-risk.aspx
You know that mercola is on of the biggest spreaders of woo around right?
Have you checked the references, don't you think 'Yale journal of biology and medicine' is a trustworthy source?
The source you're referencing shows there is a correlation between artifical sweetener and sugar cravings.
This has nothing to do with whether sweetener is bad for you.0 -
I've never had a laxative effect with aspartame and I am very sensitive as I have Crohn's. Sugar alcohols, especially sorbitol, on the other hand are a guaranteed evening spent in the bathroom
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tincanonastring wrote: »tincanonastring wrote: »Asher_Ethan wrote: »Yes. However, if I go a long time without diet soda, and then I drink it, I retain water like crazy. I don't know why.
Sodium? 40mg per can. Doesn't seem like a lot, but maybe enough to throw off your particular levels?
ETA: OP - as long as your calorie count doesn't increase, it won't matter from a weight loss perspective. I'm sure your dentist would probably have a good argument for water instead of diet soda.
Meh, we were taught my first year in dental school to BEG patients to switch from juice/sports drinks/ regular soda to diet pop. There's no sugar in it, so no carbohydrates for the bacteria to turn into acid. Sure it's a little acidic, but coupled with good saliva flow and fluoride toothpaste, the acid challenge of a diet soda is really minimal.
Yeah, that makes sense, but water is still better than the diet soda, right?
Oh for sure, but I've never told a patient to give up their diet pop habit. But water, especially if from a fluoridated source, is the gold standard for beverages0 -
Aspartame triggers migraines attacks for me sucralose does not-everyone is different in what their body can tolerate.0
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^ Sucralose is one of my favorite sweeteners. The fact that it can withstand the heat of freshly brewed coffee/tea whereas saccharin becomes mildly bitter.... love it.0
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