Diet Coke vs Water??-- 0 cals vs 0 cals
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ClubSilencio wrote: »What's the appeal of diet soda? What are people tasting exactly?
what is it about diet soda that makes people loyal?
Diet Coke is the nectar of the gods.
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At many times I don't either. Actually, pretty much anytime I'm thirsty/seeking refreshment, water is my first choice. I mostly enjoy diet soda with certain meals, as it complements what I'm eating.0 -
At many times I don't either. Actually, pretty much anytime I'm thirsty/seeking refreshment, water is my first choice. I mostly enjoy diet soda with certain meals, as it complements what I'm eating.
The only time I drink soda is when I mix it with rum. But in that case it is not diet. Rum and diet soda is nasty... IMO.0 -
At many times I don't either. Actually, pretty much anytime I'm thirsty/seeking refreshment, water is my first choice. I mostly enjoy diet soda with certain meals, as it complements what I'm eating.
The only time I drink soda is when I mix it with rum. But in that case it is not diet. Rum and diet soda is nasty... IMO.
That just means your ratio of rum to soda isn't right. Try adding rum until the taste of the soda no longer bothers you.0 -
janejellyroll wrote: »
At many times I don't either. Actually, pretty much anytime I'm thirsty/seeking refreshment, water is my first choice. I mostly enjoy diet soda with certain meals, as it complements what I'm eating.
The only time I drink soda is when I mix it with rum. But in that case it is not diet. Rum and diet soda is nasty... IMO.
That just means your ratio of rum to soda isn't right. Try adding rum until the taste of the soda no longer bothers you.
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No, not at all. Water good, soda bad.
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ClubSilencio wrote: »What's the appeal of diet soda? What are people tasting exactly?
I'm genuinely curious. No snark.
I remember as a kid drinking one of my parent's Diet Cokes after we ran out of the good stuff, and it had a taste so vile that I remember wanting to chase it with Nyquil.
I know people drink beer to have a good time or coffee to wake them up, but what is it about diet soda that makes people loyal?
I don't drink soda often, but the only one I buy is Coke Zero. All "regular" (not diet) kinds taste kind of...thick? to me, I'm not sure what the deal is. If the choice is between thirst and a full-sugar one (if water isn't available), I'll still choose nothing, but not the case with diet.
I like the taste occasionally, and it's easier to justify a Coke Zero after dinner than a double Lagavulin....0 -
janejellyroll wrote: »
At many times I don't either. Actually, pretty much anytime I'm thirsty/seeking refreshment, water is my first choice. I mostly enjoy diet soda with certain meals, as it complements what I'm eating.
The only time I drink soda is when I mix it with rum. But in that case it is not diet. Rum and diet soda is nasty... IMO.
That just means your ratio of rum to soda isn't right. Try adding rum until the taste of the soda no longer bothers you.
This is correct.0 -
ClubSilencio wrote: »What's the appeal of diet soda? What are people tasting exactly?
what is it about diet soda that makes people loyal?
Diet Coke is the nectar of the gods.
But what about Coke Zero?0 -
At many times I don't either. Actually, pretty much anytime I'm thirsty/seeking refreshment, water is my first choice. I mostly enjoy diet soda with certain meals, as it complements what I'm eating.
The only time I drink soda is when I mix it with rum. But in that case it is not diet. Rum and diet soda is nasty... IMO.
That's because you're drinking rum. It mixes great with Jack or Jim!
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https://examine.com/faq/do-artificial-sweeteners-spike-insulin/Interbeing wrote: »There are a lot of reasons not to drink diet sodas, or any sodas on a regular basis. There are a number of peer reviewed studies out now that have shown that artificial sweeteners trigger insulin, which sends your body into fat storage mode and leads to weight gain and is associated with an increased risk of type 2.
Also that's not how weight gain works even.
As does the citric acid in... citrus fruits. Or malic acid from apples. Many fruits are acidic really. Don't hear anyone telling you to stay away from them for your teeth's sake. Because dental hygiene exists.For those that like their smile, the citric acid found in sodas weakens and destroys tooth enamel over time.
Was it? Links? But really, since already your first "there are studies..." thing was wrong I'm not looking forward to it.Researchers have also found that cola intake (all kinds, not just diet) was associated with low bone-mineral density in women, increasing the risk of osteoporosis. And, not to pile on, a recent study conducted by the University of Miami and Columbia University found that diet soda devotees were 43% more likely to have experienced a vascular event than those who drank none.
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I don't drink diet sodas because they contain a lot of Dihydrogen Monoxide (DHMO)
In case you didn't know about the dangers of DHMO.
Death due to accidental inhalation of DHMO, even in small quantities.
Prolonged exposure to solid DHMO causes severe tissue damage.
Excessive ingestion produces a number of unpleasant though not typically life-threatening side-effects.
DHMO is a major component of acid rain.
Gaseous DHMO can cause severe burns.
Contributes to soil erosion.
Leads to corrosion and oxidation of many metals.
Contamination of electrical systems often causes short-circuits.
Exposure decreases effectiveness of automobile brakes.
Found in biopsies of pre-cancerous tumors and lesions.
Given to vicious dogs involved in recent deadly attacks.
Often associated with killer cyclones in the U.S. Midwest and elsewhere, and in hurricanes including deadly storms in Florida, New Orleans and other areas of the southeastern U.S.
Thermal variations in DHMO are a suspected contributor to the El Nino weather effect.
http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html
Not sure if just trolling or just stupid...0 -
BrandyGanus wrote: »I don't drink diet sodas because they contain a lot of Dihydrogen Monoxide (DHMO)
In case you didn't know about the dangers of DHMO.
Death due to accidental inhalation of DHMO, even in small quantities.
Prolonged exposure to solid DHMO causes severe tissue damage.
Excessive ingestion produces a number of unpleasant though not typically life-threatening side-effects.
DHMO is a major component of acid rain.
Gaseous DHMO can cause severe burns.
Contributes to soil erosion.
Leads to corrosion and oxidation of many metals.
Contamination of electrical systems often causes short-circuits.
Exposure decreases effectiveness of automobile brakes.
Found in biopsies of pre-cancerous tumors and lesions.
Given to vicious dogs involved in recent deadly attacks.
Often associated with killer cyclones in the U.S. Midwest and elsewhere, and in hurricanes including deadly storms in Florida, New Orleans and other areas of the southeastern U.S.
Thermal variations in DHMO are a suspected contributor to the El Nino weather effect.
http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html
Not sure if just trolling or just stupid...
I think it's humour0 -
Ah ok... difficult to tell with just text... (I've actually seen someone say this in complete seriousness when I thought they were joking)0
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I don't drink diet sodas because they contain a lot of Dihydrogen Monoxide (DHMO)
In case you didn't know about the dangers of DHMO.
Death due to accidental inhalation of DHMO, even in small quantities.
Prolonged exposure to solid DHMO causes severe tissue damage.
Excessive ingestion produces a number of unpleasant though not typically life-threatening side-effects.
DHMO is a major component of acid rain.
Gaseous DHMO can cause severe burns.
Contributes to soil erosion.
Leads to corrosion and oxidation of many metals.
Contamination of electrical systems often causes short-circuits.
Exposure decreases effectiveness of automobile brakes.
Found in biopsies of pre-cancerous tumors and lesions.
Given to vicious dogs involved in recent deadly attacks.
Often associated with killer cyclones in the U.S. Midwest and elsewhere, and in hurricanes including deadly storms in Florida, New Orleans and other areas of the southeastern U.S.
Thermal variations in DHMO are a suspected contributor to the El Nino weather effect.
http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html
Don't forget that DHMO is also used to fuel rockets and create nuclear weapons. The horror!0 -
I don't drink diet sodas because they contain a lot of Dihydrogen Monoxide (DHMO)
In case you didn't know about the dangers of DHMO.
Death due to accidental inhalation of DHMO, even in small quantities.
Prolonged exposure to solid DHMO causes severe tissue damage.
Excessive ingestion produces a number of unpleasant though not typically life-threatening side-effects.
DHMO is a major component of acid rain.
Gaseous DHMO can cause severe burns.
Contributes to soil erosion.
Leads to corrosion and oxidation of many metals.
Contamination of electrical systems often causes short-circuits.
Exposure decreases effectiveness of automobile brakes.
Found in biopsies of pre-cancerous tumors and lesions.
Given to vicious dogs involved in recent deadly attacks.
Often associated with killer cyclones in the U.S. Midwest and elsewhere, and in hurricanes including deadly storms in Florida, New Orleans and other areas of the southeastern U.S.
Thermal variations in DHMO are a suspected contributor to the El Nino weather effect.
http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html
Don't forget that DHMO is also used to fuel rockets and create nuclear weapons. The horror!
I also heard the CIA has used it to torture people.0 -
Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »I don't drink diet sodas because they contain a lot of Dihydrogen Monoxide (DHMO)
In case you didn't know about the dangers of DHMO.
Death due to accidental inhalation of DHMO, even in small quantities.
Prolonged exposure to solid DHMO causes severe tissue damage.
Excessive ingestion produces a number of unpleasant though not typically life-threatening side-effects.
DHMO is a major component of acid rain.
Gaseous DHMO can cause severe burns.
Contributes to soil erosion.
Leads to corrosion and oxidation of many metals.
Contamination of electrical systems often causes short-circuits.
Exposure decreases effectiveness of automobile brakes.
Found in biopsies of pre-cancerous tumors and lesions.
Given to vicious dogs involved in recent deadly attacks.
Often associated with killer cyclones in the U.S. Midwest and elsewhere, and in hurricanes including deadly storms in Florida, New Orleans and other areas of the southeastern U.S.
Thermal variations in DHMO are a suspected contributor to the El Nino weather effect.
http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html
Don't forget that DHMO is also used to fuel rockets and create nuclear weapons. The horror!
I also heard the CIA has used it to torture people.
And trump wants to bring it back.0 -
apparently, i don't know how to do this internet forum thing...0
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BrandyGanus wrote: »apparently, i don't know how to do this internet forum thing...
You'll get the hang of it0 -
singingflutelady wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »I don't drink diet sodas because they contain a lot of Dihydrogen Monoxide (DHMO)
In case you didn't know about the dangers of DHMO.
Death due to accidental inhalation of DHMO, even in small quantities.
Prolonged exposure to solid DHMO causes severe tissue damage.
Excessive ingestion produces a number of unpleasant though not typically life-threatening side-effects.
DHMO is a major component of acid rain.
Gaseous DHMO can cause severe burns.
Contributes to soil erosion.
Leads to corrosion and oxidation of many metals.
Contamination of electrical systems often causes short-circuits.
Exposure decreases effectiveness of automobile brakes.
Found in biopsies of pre-cancerous tumors and lesions.
Given to vicious dogs involved in recent deadly attacks.
Often associated with killer cyclones in the U.S. Midwest and elsewhere, and in hurricanes including deadly storms in Florida, New Orleans and other areas of the southeastern U.S.
Thermal variations in DHMO are a suspected contributor to the El Nino weather effect.
http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html
Don't forget that DHMO is also used to fuel rockets and create nuclear weapons. The horror!
I also heard the CIA has used it to torture people.
And trump wants to bring it back.
I'm sure he'll accomplish that as soon as he builds his wall. 0 -
Possibly. I'm just a rum kinda guy...
At many times I don't either. Actually, pretty much anytime I'm thirsty/seeking refreshment, water is my first choice. I mostly enjoy diet soda with certain meals, as it complements what I'm eating.
The only time I drink soda is when I mix it with rum. But in that case it is not diet. Rum and diet soda is nasty... IMO.
That's because you're drinking rum. It mixes great with Jack or Jim!0 -
I drink Pepsi Max and/or coke zero several times per week. I also drink water every day.
I personally find diet coke tastes chemically and I don't like it much.
( am not commenting negatively on the actual chemicals, just a description of the taste)
I have not found that my appetite increased or I got cravings or it impeded my weight loss or any other side effect.
But oh dear the silly comparisons in this thread - I don't think milk is unhealthy because I don't give it to my dog. Dogs are lactose intolerant - I am not.
On the other hand, I do give my plants water from the fish tank, is very healthy for them.
But I don't drink it myself.0 -
stevencloser wrote: »
https://examine.com/faq/do-artificial-sweeteners-spike-insulin/Interbeing wrote: »There are a lot of reasons not to drink diet sodas, or any sodas on a regular basis. There are a number of peer reviewed studies out now that have shown that artificial sweeteners trigger insulin, which sends your body into fat storage mode and leads to weight gain and is associated with an increased risk of type 2.
Also that's not how weight gain works even.
As does the citric acid in... citrus fruits. Or malic acid from apples. Many fruits are acidic really. Don't hear anyone telling you to stay away from them for your teeth's sake. Because dental hygiene exists.For those that like their smile, the citric acid found in sodas weakens and destroys tooth enamel over time.
Was it? Links? But really, since already your first "there are studies..." thing was wrong I'm not looking forward to it.Researchers have also found that cola intake (all kinds, not just diet) was associated with low bone-mineral density in women, increasing the risk of osteoporosis. And, not to pile on, a recent study conducted by the University of Miami and Columbia University found that diet soda devotees were 43% more likely to have experienced a vascular event than those who drank none.
Cleveland Clinic article that basically says that coffee and soda CAN lower your bone density because people don't drink milk too. Phosphoric acid in sodas (not chicken or certain cheeses) leaches calcium from the bones so you need to balance the sodas with milk or calcium supplements (mainly for women).
National Osteoporosis Foundation article states that high consumption of caffeine can cause bone problems if you do not supplement it with enough calcium. The article also states that phosphoric acid can interfere with calcium absorption, so it recommends moderation with sodas and caffeinated beverages and 1000mg calcium for people under 50 and 1200mg calcium for people over 50.
The American Jounal of Clinical Nutrition states that sodas crowd out other healthier beverages and also contain both caffeine and phosphoric acid which can be deleterious to bone health, especially in women.0 -
BrandyGanus wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »
https://examine.com/faq/do-artificial-sweeteners-spike-insulin/Interbeing wrote: »There are a lot of reasons not to drink diet sodas, or any sodas on a regular basis. There are a number of peer reviewed studies out now that have shown that artificial sweeteners trigger insulin, which sends your body into fat storage mode and leads to weight gain and is associated with an increased risk of type 2.
Also that's not how weight gain works even.
As does the citric acid in... citrus fruits. Or malic acid from apples. Many fruits are acidic really. Don't hear anyone telling you to stay away from them for your teeth's sake. Because dental hygiene exists.For those that like their smile, the citric acid found in sodas weakens and destroys tooth enamel over time.
Was it? Links? But really, since already your first "there are studies..." thing was wrong I'm not looking forward to it.Researchers have also found that cola intake (all kinds, not just diet) was associated with low bone-mineral density in women, increasing the risk of osteoporosis. And, not to pile on, a recent study conducted by the University of Miami and Columbia University found that diet soda devotees were 43% more likely to have experienced a vascular event than those who drank none.
Cleveland Clinic article that basically says that coffee and soda CAN lower your bone density because people don't drink milk too. Phosphoric acid in sodas (not chicken or certain cheeses) leaches calcium from the bones so you need to balance the sodas with milk or calcium supplements (mainly for women).
National Osteoporosis Foundation article states that high consumption of caffeine can cause bone problems if you do not supplement it with enough calcium. The article also states that phosphoric acid can interfere with calcium absorption, so it recommends moderation with sodas and caffeinated beverages and 1000mg calcium for people under 50 and 1200mg calcium for people over 50.
The American Jounal of Clinical Nutrition states that sodas crowd out other healthier beverages and also contain both caffeine and phosphoric acid which can be deleterious to bone health, especially in women.
The sources have a lot of "might"s and "could"s. A major problem with this type of study is that it's all based on correlation, which won't prove causation. It could be, as posited, that cola drinkers, as a group, consume less milk. It could be that those who never drink cola are more health focused in general, including exercising more. It could be that something in the cola actually promotes osteoporosis. It's just very hard to draw any conclusions from the kinds of studies that have been done.0 -
rankinsect wrote: »BrandyGanus wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »
https://examine.com/faq/do-artificial-sweeteners-spike-insulin/Interbeing wrote: »There are a lot of reasons not to drink diet sodas, or any sodas on a regular basis. There are a number of peer reviewed studies out now that have shown that artificial sweeteners trigger insulin, which sends your body into fat storage mode and leads to weight gain and is associated with an increased risk of type 2.
Also that's not how weight gain works even.
As does the citric acid in... citrus fruits. Or malic acid from apples. Many fruits are acidic really. Don't hear anyone telling you to stay away from them for your teeth's sake. Because dental hygiene exists.For those that like their smile, the citric acid found in sodas weakens and destroys tooth enamel over time.
Was it? Links? But really, since already your first "there are studies..." thing was wrong I'm not looking forward to it.Researchers have also found that cola intake (all kinds, not just diet) was associated with low bone-mineral density in women, increasing the risk of osteoporosis. And, not to pile on, a recent study conducted by the University of Miami and Columbia University found that diet soda devotees were 43% more likely to have experienced a vascular event than those who drank none.
Cleveland Clinic article that basically says that coffee and soda CAN lower your bone density because people don't drink milk too. Phosphoric acid in sodas (not chicken or certain cheeses) leaches calcium from the bones so you need to balance the sodas with milk or calcium supplements (mainly for women).
National Osteoporosis Foundation article states that high consumption of caffeine can cause bone problems if you do not supplement it with enough calcium. The article also states that phosphoric acid can interfere with calcium absorption, so it recommends moderation with sodas and caffeinated beverages and 1000mg calcium for people under 50 and 1200mg calcium for people over 50.
The American Jounal of Clinical Nutrition states that sodas crowd out other healthier beverages and also contain both caffeine and phosphoric acid which can be deleterious to bone health, especially in women.
The sources have a lot of "might"s and "could"s. A major problem with this type of study is that it's all based on correlation, which won't prove causation. It could be, as posited, that cola drinkers, as a group, consume less milk. It could be that those who never drink cola are more health focused in general, including exercising more. It could be that something in the cola actually promotes osteoporosis. It's just very hard to draw any conclusions from the kinds of studies that have been done.
Yes, that was the point. These are the pitfalls (not drinking enough milk or ingesting too much caffeine) and they should be avoided since the research hasn't definitively shown that sodas cause bone density problems. The person before asked for studies, so I provided them.
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robs_ready wrote: »
Americans are so paranoid about it, that beverage companies are ripping their products off the shelves, and it's absolutely insane.
+1 Yes, because now Diet Pepsi tastes like crap!
I know. I'm so pissed all these woo peddlers convinced Diet Pepsi to change their sweetener (if you don't like artificial sweeteners, don't drink them! And leave my diet sodas alone!).
Now I have fully switched over to the Diet Coke camp instead of just some of the time like before. I am getting used to it. At least Diet Mountain Dew did not change their flavor. But the Coca-Cola Company is making money off of Pepsi's stupid decision (or why didn't they at least make a new flavor? Like Diet Coke versus Coke Zero, two types for people who like two different flavor profiles).0 -
I avoid diet soda because it has aspartame, and that's been known to cause headaches. I have chronic headaches anyway. I'm not going to intentionally drink something that could possibly make it worse. Even if it's not true about it causing headaches, I'm not a big soda drinker so I'd still pick water.0
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Fortunately for most people, aspartame does not cause headaches.0
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