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Does specific type of food help you lose weight
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cwolfman13 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »
Well most people who want to lose weight just stop eating or start eating less but the thing is once you start eating into your normal everyday routin you gain everything back
And diatrofi what we call it in greek sorry but i dont know how to say it... but you eat more healthy... than before cut down on the fried stuff and still see results.. lose weight stay stable be more healthy but still eat!!!
When people eat more healthfully as you say and avoid fried stuff and whatnot...they're cutting out calories. I could have the same volume of food with one plate (A) being grilled chicken breast, steamed broccoli, and roasted potatoes vs (B) fried chicken, deep fried okra, french fries...the former is simply going to be far less calorie dense and will provide more nutrition...and personally, that's what I'd opt for...but the point people are making is that if you consume less energy (calories) than you expend, you will lose weight regardless of whether you chose option A or B
But if you chose A you can eat as many times a day you want fitted to your calory scedhual if i eat 3x a day in my option B i dont think you have a high chance of losing weight easy
I think what you're trying to say is that eating generally more healthfully in general is going to make things easier because you are likely to consume fewer calories inherently...which I agree with...but those foods in particular don't make you lose weight...they don't cause you to lose weight in and of themselves...as in they don't have magical weight loss properties.
I eat what most people would consider a pretty "clean" diet and I have absolutely gained weight doing so...so it's not impossible to eat healthfully and gain weight either...there are plenty of calorie dense, nutritious foods...avocados come to mind.0 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »
Well most people who want to lose weight just stop eating or start eating less but the thing is once you start eating into your normal everyday routin you gain everything back
And diatrofi what we call it in greek sorry but i dont know how to say it... but you eat more healthy... than before cut down on the fried stuff and still see results.. lose weight stay stable be more healthy but still eat!!!
When people eat more healthfully as you say and avoid fried stuff and whatnot...they're cutting out calories. I could have the same volume of food with one plate (A) being grilled chicken breast, steamed broccoli, and roasted potatoes vs (B) fried chicken, deep fried okra, french fries...the former is simply going to be far less calorie dense and will provide more nutrition...and personally, that's what I'd opt for...but the point people are making is that if you consume less energy (calories) than you expend, you will lose weight regardless of whether you chose option A or B
But if you chose A you can eat as many times a day you want fitted to your calory scedhual if i eat 3x a day in my option B i dont think you have a high chance of losing weight easy
I think what you're trying to say is that eating generally more healthfully in general is going to make things easier because you are likely to consume fewer calories inherently...which I agree with...but those foods in particular don't make you lose weight...they don't cause you to lose weight in and of themselves...as in they don't have magical weight loss properties.
I eat what most people would consider a pretty "clean" diet and I have absolutely gained weight doing so...so it's not impossible to eat healthfully and gain weight either...there are plenty of calorie dense, nutritious foods...avocados come to mind.
Omg avocados thats the first thing that popped in your head i mean ok eat healthy but i cant eat the things I dont like eating0 -
Low nutrition, fiber and fortified processed. Basically it's not great food.Disagree.
And if "bad" food really lead to demise, then penitentiary inmates are immune to death from eating low quality food.
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I agree its not about losing weight more than maintaining a healthy diet of course
@ginamcy I made the mistake of trying to lose weight for forty years. When I stopped dieting and started eating for better health. As my health improved the weight started to drop from 250 to 200 and has maintained there for a year now and my health continues to improve at age 65 just 18 months after I stopped trying to lose weight.
It seems as if we have to become unhealthy for some reason(s) before we can become obese.0 -
Disagree. Lots of dudes in the pen are pretty lean and have abs. And it ain't from quality nutrition.gataman3000 wrote: »Weight no, fat yes, if you want to be skinny fat, follow calories in and calories out only, if you want to lose fat, potentially have abs and a small waist, then I would eat foods with quality nutrition. When you say weight only it generally starts a firestorm on these boards when in actuality you want to lose weight and fat. You don't want to lose 20 or 30 pounds and still have 40 or 50 percent body fat.
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cwolfman13 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »
Well most people who want to lose weight just stop eating or start eating less but the thing is once you start eating into your normal everyday routin you gain everything back
And diatrofi what we call it in greek sorry but i dont know how to say it... but you eat more healthy... than before cut down on the fried stuff and still see results.. lose weight stay stable be more healthy but still eat!!!
When people eat more healthfully as you say and avoid fried stuff and whatnot...they're cutting out calories. I could have the same volume of food with one plate (A) being grilled chicken breast, steamed broccoli, and roasted potatoes vs (B) fried chicken, deep fried okra, french fries...the former is simply going to be far less calorie dense and will provide more nutrition...and personally, that's what I'd opt for...but the point people are making is that if you consume less energy (calories) than you expend, you will lose weight regardless of whether you chose option A or B
But if you chose A you can eat as many times a day you want fitted to your calory scedhual if i eat 3x a day in my option B i dont think you have a high chance of losing weight easy
I think what you're trying to say is that eating generally more healthfully in general is going to make things easier because you are likely to consume fewer calories inherently...which I agree with...but those foods in particular don't make you lose weight...they don't cause you to lose weight in and of themselves...as in they don't have magical weight loss properties.
I eat what most people would consider a pretty "clean" diet and I have absolutely gained weight doing so...so it's not impossible to eat healthfully and gain weight either...there are plenty of calorie dense, nutritious foods...avocados come to mind.
Omg avocados thats the first thing that popped in your head i mean ok eat healthy but i cant eat the things I dont like eating
I live in New Mexico...avocados are a dietary staple here.0 -
I live in San Diego county, avocados are everywhere.
ETA: removed some bragging, sorry.0 -
michelle172415 wrote: »I'm not sure I'm actually following your post, but if I'm responding to your post title only, no, a specific type of food does not help you lose weight. You lose weight by burning more calories than you consume. Whether you eat 1,200 calories of salad or 1,200 calories of chocolate, if you are in a deficit you will lose weight. Is it always healthy? Probably not, but CICO is the only end game.
How will you burn more calories than you consume? I dont think that eating whatever you want and excercizing will do the trick or be enough
For a person to lose weight they must burn more than they eat. However, the vast majority of the calories a person burns are those to simply exist BMR. The rest is daily activity and exercise.0 -
I belive it does! Its not how many times you eat than what you eat a person that will eat once a day but fast food like french fies and hamburger and a person that will eat 3 times a day but will eat chicken breast without frying or broccoli tuna fish exc will most likely lose weight or be in better forming shape then the other person... or some people eat whatever they want without gaining any weight but having health problems
Agree or disagree???
Is there some kind of common misconception that if you have health problems it must be because you overeat or eat the wrong things (or both)? There are so many other reasons to have health issues.[/quote
What you eat plays a big role
When you go to the doctor and you have high colestrual or blood pressure he says the things to eat and not to eat
Actually my doctor said there is a far greater genetic component to high cholesterol than diet. Even high blood pressure is not always connected to high sodium consumption. I have high blood pressure and low sodium makes no difference, fat loss and being active makes a huge difference.0 -
michelle172415 wrote: »I'm not sure I'm actually following your post, but if I'm responding to your post title only, no, a specific type of food does not help you lose weight. You lose weight by burning more calories than you consume. Whether you eat 1,200 calories of salad or 1,200 calories of chocolate, if you are in a deficit you will lose weight. Is it always healthy? Probably not, but CICO is the only end game.
How will you burn more calories than you consume? I dont think that eating whatever you want and excercizing will do the trick or be enough
The trick is you can eat whatever you want, but not necessarily as much and as often you'd want if you were eating with no care for the consequences. Instead, any person can generally fit an acceptable amount of at least any one food into their daily allotment and still meet a calorie goal for the day.
I think everyones metabilism is different if i were to eat once a day and all the junk i would weigh more than i do now wich is eating many times small portions work for me and no junk includes choc chips exc..
Not if you ate at a calorie deficit, and for that matter there is plenty of studies that all show meal frequency has no effect on metabolism or fat loss. How often you eat is personal preference.0 -
I'm down 57 lbs and I eat pretty much everything.
I could eat nothing but McDonalds and Pizza Hut and still lose weight as long as I'm eating at a deficit. The only reason I choose not to is because 1) healthy foods make me feel better, 2) they're *usually* less calorie dense which allows me to eat more, and 3) they have a higher nutritional value.
ETA: I followed a "clean eating diet" when I was 19 or so and barely lost anything because I was eating huge portions. Doesn't matter how healthy brown rice/oatmeal/chicken/cherries/etc are--if you're consuming humongous quantities of it you're just not going to lose weight.0 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »
Well most people who want to lose weight just stop eating or start eating less but the thing is once you start eating into your normal everyday routin you gain everything back
And diatrofi what we call it in greek sorry but i dont know how to say it... but you eat more healthy... than before cut down on the fried stuff and still see results.. lose weight stay stable be more healthy but still eat!!!
When people eat more healthfully as you say and avoid fried stuff and whatnot...they're cutting out calories. I could have the same volume of food with one plate (A) being grilled chicken breast, steamed broccoli, and roasted potatoes vs (B) fried chicken, deep fried okra, french fries...the former is simply going to be far less calorie dense and will provide more nutrition...and personally, that's what I'd opt for...but the point people are making is that if you consume less energy (calories) than you expend, you will lose weight regardless of whether you chose option A or B
But if you chose A you can eat as many times a day you want fitted to your calory scedhual if i eat 3x a day in my option B i dont think you have a high chance of losing weight easy
There is a reason that a very valid method of weight loss is to just eat at what you maintenance level would be at goal weight. You never have to "go back" to anything; you form a habit and stick with it. Eat all the foods you want to be able to incorporate into your diet for the rest of your life by finding portions that work within your calorie goals but still leave enough room for you to feel satiated and get you nutrition.
Problem solved.
This is my approach. After two months of it I am finding that eating that amount becomes more and more normal. I am guessing when I reach my goal weight I will have little issue continuing eating whatever I want. No, that doesn't mean all twinkies and McDonald's, but it does include the McDonald's, Ice Cream and other fun foods that keep me satisfied mentally.0 -
rileysowner wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »
Well most people who want to lose weight just stop eating or start eating less but the thing is once you start eating into your normal everyday routin you gain everything back
And diatrofi what we call it in greek sorry but i dont know how to say it... but you eat more healthy... than before cut down on the fried stuff and still see results.. lose weight stay stable be more healthy but still eat!!!
When people eat more healthfully as you say and avoid fried stuff and whatnot...they're cutting out calories. I could have the same volume of food with one plate (A) being grilled chicken breast, steamed broccoli, and roasted potatoes vs (B) fried chicken, deep fried okra, french fries...the former is simply going to be far less calorie dense and will provide more nutrition...and personally, that's what I'd opt for...but the point people are making is that if you consume less energy (calories) than you expend, you will lose weight regardless of whether you chose option A or B
But if you chose A you can eat as many times a day you want fitted to your calory scedhual if i eat 3x a day in my option B i dont think you have a high chance of losing weight easy
There is a reason that a very valid method of weight loss is to just eat at what you maintenance level would be at goal weight. You never have to "go back" to anything; you form a habit and stick with it. Eat all the foods you want to be able to incorporate into your diet for the rest of your life by finding portions that work within your calorie goals but still leave enough room for you to feel satiated and get you nutrition.
Problem solved.
This is my approach. After two months of it I am finding that eating that amount becomes more and more normal. I am guessing when I reach my goal weight I will have little issue continuing eating whatever I want. No, that doesn't mean all twinkies and McDonald's, but it does include the McDonald's, Ice Cream and other fun foods that keep me satisfied mentally.
So you're eating at your maintenance goal weight calories? How much are you losing every week/month?0 -
queenliz99 wrote: »I live in San Diego county, avocados are everywhere.
ETA: removed some bragging, sorry.
Also in California and yes. Definitely an all the time food. Mm.0 -
queenliz99 wrote: »I live in San Diego county, avocados are everywhere.
ETA: removed some bragging, sorry.
Also in California and yes. Definitely an all the time food. Mm.
Fresno!! Cool!!0 -
queenliz99 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »I live in San Diego county, avocados are everywhere.
ETA: removed some bragging, sorry.
Also in California and yes. Definitely an all the time food. Mm.
Fresno!! Cool!!
Woo! Getting warmer by the day though...
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Disagree. Lots of dudes in the pen are pretty lean and have abs. And it ain't from quality nutrition.gataman3000 wrote: »Weight no, fat yes, if you want to be skinny fat, follow calories in and calories out only, if you want to lose fat, potentially have abs and a small waist, then I would eat foods with quality nutrition. When you say weight only it generally starts a firestorm on these boards when in actuality you want to lose weight and fat. You don't want to lose 20 or 30 pounds and still have 40 or 50 percent body fat.
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This must be some kind of joke, do you think people in prison have access to five guys burgers, milkshakes and family size packs of Oreo cookies...no. Some of the responses are just amazing but this one took the cake. Only point I'm trying to make is that when people say they want to lose weight, they want the majority of that weight to come from fat. Only here in this forum will someone champion losing weight with a terrible diet of cookies and cakes and say " hey as long as you stay in your calorie window its OK " . People should learn how to eat quality, nutritious foods if they want to lose fat and have a healthy body composition. I'm not here to say who's wrong or right but if you think your body fat percentage will drop while eating majority cookies and twinkies inside your calorie window, then you go right ahead. But if you want to lose weight along with drop your body fat percentage, then healthy nutritious foods would be the way to go.0 -
DancingDarl wrote: »michelle172415 wrote: »Whether you eat 1,200 calories of salad or 1,200 calories of chocolate, if you are in a deficit you will lose weight. Is it always healthy? Probably not, but CICO is the only end game.
This is a really bad mentality. The obesity epidemic is not based off of issues of losing weight most people are because of eating addictions to these kinds of comfort foods chocolate,chips Macdonalds.
Losing weight is not the issue, the issue is maintaining a healthy lifestyle for health.
CICO is just basic mathematics, dietetics or nutrition education is very helpful in terms or reaching a healthy lifestyle. I am not saying CICO is false just merely pointing the OP to keep searching fir foods that will benefit her health and long term weight loss involving micronutrients that create a feeling of satiation and not merely saturation..
Well said.0 -
queenliz99 wrote: »
Well most people who want to lose weight just stop eating or start eating less but the thing is once you start eating into your normal everyday routin you gain everything back
And diatrofi what we call it in greek sorry but i dont know how to say it... but you eat more healthy... than before cut down on the fried stuff and still see results.. lose weight stay stable be more healthy but still eat!!!
OP, you are exactly 100 percent right. Trying to control junk food consumption through calorie counting is, for many people, temporary and illusory, because once you start eating "normally" again, then you will gain all your weight back. And that is exactly what happens to people, all the time. They call it yo yo dieting. Healthier food can be eaten more freely without concern. With healthier food you can just eat and not have to worry about it so much. Don't worry about what any of these other people are saying, because you have it figured out perfectly.0 -
Low nutrition, fiber and fortified processed. Basically it's not great food.Disagree.
And if "bad" food really lead to demise, then penitentiary inmates are immune to death from eating low quality food.
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Please explain on low quality food wich is
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So now we're admitting that processed food is low quality? Good to know.
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gataman3000 wrote: »
Disagree. Lots of dudes in the pen are pretty lean and have abs. And it ain't from quality nutrition.gataman3000 wrote: »Weight no, fat yes, if you want to be skinny fat, follow calories in and calories out only, if you want to lose fat, potentially have abs and a small waist, then I would eat foods with quality nutrition. When you say weight only it generally starts a firestorm on these boards when in actuality you want to lose weight and fat. You don't want to lose 20 or 30 pounds and still have 40 or 50 percent body fat.
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This must be some kind of joke, do you think people in prison have access to five guys burgers, milkshakes and family size packs of Oreo cookies...no. Some of the responses are just amazing but this one took the cake. Only point I'm trying to make is that when people say they want to lose weight, they want the majority of that weight to come from fat. Only here in this forum will someone champion losing weight with a terrible diet of cookies and cakes and say " hey as long as you stay in your calorie window its OK " . People should learn how to eat quality, nutritious foods if they want to lose fat and have a healthy body composition. I'm not here to say who's wrong or right but if you think your body fat percentage will drop while eating majority cookies and twinkies inside your calorie window, then you go right ahead. But if you want to lose weight along with drop your body fat percentage, then healthy nutritious foods would be the way to go.
I asked you yesterday to find an example of where people are advocating a diet of nothing but cookies and cake saying "hey as long as you're under calories it's ok".
I guess you're still looking?
It's ok. I will wait.
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gataman3000 wrote: »
Disagree. Lots of dudes in the pen are pretty lean and have abs. And it ain't from quality nutrition.gataman3000 wrote: »Weight no, fat yes, if you want to be skinny fat, follow calories in and calories out only, if you want to lose fat, potentially have abs and a small waist, then I would eat foods with quality nutrition. When you say weight only it generally starts a firestorm on these boards when in actuality you want to lose weight and fat. You don't want to lose 20 or 30 pounds and still have 40 or 50 percent body fat.
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This must be some kind of joke, do you think people in prison have access to five guys burgers, milkshakes and family size packs of Oreo cookies...no. Some of the responses are just amazing but this one took the cake. Only point I'm trying to make is that when people say they want to lose weight, they want the majority of that weight to come from fat. Only here in this forum will someone champion losing weight with a terrible diet of cookies and cakes and say " hey as long as you stay in your calorie window its OK " . People should learn how to eat quality, nutritious foods if they want to lose fat and have a healthy body composition. I'm not here to say who's wrong or right but if you think your body fat percentage will drop while eating majority cookies and twinkies inside your calorie window, then you go right ahead. But if you want to lose weight along with drop your body fat percentage, then healthy nutritious foods would be the way to go.
If they eat at a calorie deficit, they will lose weight. There's nothing magical about healthy, nutritious foods that will make people lose fat whereas eating cookies and Twinkies will make people lose muscle. A professor at Kansas State University actually did lose weight eating primarily Twinkies; not only did he lose fat, but his cholesterol levels improved: http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/.
No one is advocating a Twinkie-based diet; if I am wrong about this, please post a link to prove it. What people are saying is that it is possible to eat cookies and Twinkies now and again and still lose weight.0 -
lisawinning4losing wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »
Well most people who want to lose weight just stop eating or start eating less but the thing is once you start eating into your normal everyday routin you gain everything back
And diatrofi what we call it in greek sorry but i dont know how to say it... but you eat more healthy... than before cut down on the fried stuff and still see results.. lose weight stay stable be more healthy but still eat!!!
OP, you are exactly 100 percent right. Trying to control junk food consumption through calorie counting is, for many people, temporary and illusory, because once you start eating "normally" again, then you will gain all your weight back. And that is exactly what happens to people, all the time. They call it yo yo dieting. Healthier food can be eaten more freely without concern. With healthier food you can just eat and not have to worry about it so much. Don't worry about what any of these other people are saying, because you have it figured out perfectly.
So how is it that people don't go back to eating "normally" again if they lose weight by eating healthier food? Why is it that people only "yo yo diet" if they learn to eat "junk food" in moderation as part of a calorie deficit, but somehow they don't "yo yo diet" if they completely abstain from junk food while they are losing weight? Your argument makes no sense.0 -
ClosetBayesian wrote: »lisawinning4losing wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »
Well most people who want to lose weight just stop eating or start eating less but the thing is once you start eating into your normal everyday routin you gain everything back
And diatrofi what we call it in greek sorry but i dont know how to say it... but you eat more healthy... than before cut down on the fried stuff and still see results.. lose weight stay stable be more healthy but still eat!!!
OP, you are exactly 100 percent right. Trying to control junk food consumption through calorie counting is, for many people, temporary and illusory, because once you start eating "normally" again, then you will gain all your weight back. And that is exactly what happens to people, all the time. They call it yo yo dieting. Healthier food can be eaten more freely without concern. With healthier food you can just eat and not have to worry about it so much. Don't worry about what any of these other people are saying, because you have it figured out perfectly.
So how is it that people don't go back to eating "normally" again if they lose weight by eating healthier food? Why is it that people only "yo yo diet" if they learn to eat "junk food" in moderation as part of a calorie deficit, but somehow they don't "yo yo diet" if they completely abstain from junk food while they are losing weight? Your argument makes no sense.
I'm sure that isn't uncommon, but it's totally possible to yo-yo diet on healthy food. Healthy food doesn't make a healthy diet if you eat too much of it. And it's very easy for some of us to eat too much of it.0 -
lisawinning4losing wrote: »
Low nutrition, fiber and fortified processed. Basically it's not great food.Disagree.
And if "bad" food really lead to demise, then penitentiary inmates are immune to death from eating low quality food.
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Please explain on low quality food wich is
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So now we're admitting that processed food is low quality? Good to know.
Why is processed food inherently low quality? There are some really high quality cheeses that count as processed, although they likely should not form the core of a diet. There are highly nutritious foods like a purchased salad or cottage cheese/yogurt or smoked salmon, frozen fish in general, etc. I make very nutritious meals based around dried pasta or canned beans (I add vegetables and sometimes lean protein).
Also, I will refer again to the frozen BB meals juggernaut (I think) mentioned, as well as the Kitchfix convenience meals -- not my thing in that I tend not to prefer premade meals, but there are some quite nutritious options based on what I'd consider high quality ingredients.
(Should I bet on how likely it is that this gets ignored again?)
Again, I don't think anyone is saying that eating a healthy diet is not important, but that you don't have to never eat a cookie to eat a healthy diet, and -- more specifically -- that "processed foods" aren't necessarily non-nutritious. Instead one should take a more intelligent approach and look at the specifics rather than the label.0 -
ClosetBayesian wrote: »gataman3000 wrote: »
Disagree. Lots of dudes in the pen are pretty lean and have abs. And it ain't from quality nutrition.gataman3000 wrote: »Weight no, fat yes, if you want to be skinny fat, follow calories in and calories out only, if you want to lose fat, potentially have abs and a small waist, then I would eat foods with quality nutrition. When you say weight only it generally starts a firestorm on these boards when in actuality you want to lose weight and fat. You don't want to lose 20 or 30 pounds and still have 40 or 50 percent body fat.
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This must be some kind of joke, do you think people in prison have access to five guys burgers, milkshakes and family size packs of Oreo cookies...no. Some of the responses are just amazing but this one took the cake. Only point I'm trying to make is that when people say they want to lose weight, they want the majority of that weight to come from fat. Only here in this forum will someone champion losing weight with a terrible diet of cookies and cakes and say " hey as long as you stay in your calorie window its OK " . People should learn how to eat quality, nutritious foods if they want to lose fat and have a healthy body composition. I'm not here to say who's wrong or right but if you think your body fat percentage will drop while eating majority cookies and twinkies inside your calorie window, then you go right ahead. But if you want to lose weight along with drop your body fat percentage, then healthy nutritious foods would be the way to go.
If they eat at a calorie deficit, they will lose weight. There's nothing magical about healthy, nutritious foods that will make people lose fat whereas eating cookies and Twinkies will make people lose muscle. A professor at Kansas State University actually did lose weight eating primarily Twinkies; not only did he lose fat, but his cholesterol levels improved: http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/.
No one is advocating a Twinkie-based diet; if I am wrong about this, please post a link to prove it. What people are saying is that it is possible to eat cookies and Twinkies now and again and still lose weight.
But you don't address the body composition part of the bolded sentence.
I don't think quality food is necessary for good body composition, but the Twinkie diet is a poor example if healthy body composition is part of the discussion as opposed to just weight loss.0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »ClosetBayesian wrote: »gataman3000 wrote: »
Disagree. Lots of dudes in the pen are pretty lean and have abs. And it ain't from quality nutrition.gataman3000 wrote: »Weight no, fat yes, if you want to be skinny fat, follow calories in and calories out only, if you want to lose fat, potentially have abs and a small waist, then I would eat foods with quality nutrition. When you say weight only it generally starts a firestorm on these boards when in actuality you want to lose weight and fat. You don't want to lose 20 or 30 pounds and still have 40 or 50 percent body fat.
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This must be some kind of joke, do you think people in prison have access to five guys burgers, milkshakes and family size packs of Oreo cookies...no. Some of the responses are just amazing but this one took the cake. Only point I'm trying to make is that when people say they want to lose weight, they want the majority of that weight to come from fat. Only here in this forum will someone champion losing weight with a terrible diet of cookies and cakes and say " hey as long as you stay in your calorie window its OK " . People should learn how to eat quality, nutritious foods if they want to lose fat and have a healthy body composition. I'm not here to say who's wrong or right but if you think your body fat percentage will drop while eating majority cookies and twinkies inside your calorie window, then you go right ahead. But if you want to lose weight along with drop your body fat percentage, then healthy nutritious foods would be the way to go.
If they eat at a calorie deficit, they will lose weight. There's nothing magical about healthy, nutritious foods that will make people lose fat whereas eating cookies and Twinkies will make people lose muscle. A professor at Kansas State University actually did lose weight eating primarily Twinkies; not only did he lose fat, but his cholesterol levels improved: http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/.
No one is advocating a Twinkie-based diet; if I am wrong about this, please post a link to prove it. What people are saying is that it is possible to eat cookies and Twinkies now and again and still lose weight.
But you don't address the body composition part of the bolded sentence.
I don't think quality food is necessary for good body composition, but the Twinkie diet is a poor example if healthy body composition is part of the discussion as opposed to just weight loss.
Not everyone can eat twinkies and lose weight just because your professor did this is poor diet0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »ClosetBayesian wrote: »gataman3000 wrote: »
Disagree. Lots of dudes in the pen are pretty lean and have abs. And it ain't from quality nutrition.gataman3000 wrote: »Weight no, fat yes, if you want to be skinny fat, follow calories in and calories out only, if you want to lose fat, potentially have abs and a small waist, then I would eat foods with quality nutrition. When you say weight only it generally starts a firestorm on these boards when in actuality you want to lose weight and fat. You don't want to lose 20 or 30 pounds and still have 40 or 50 percent body fat.
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Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
This must be some kind of joke, do you think people in prison have access to five guys burgers, milkshakes and family size packs of Oreo cookies...no. Some of the responses are just amazing but this one took the cake. Only point I'm trying to make is that when people say they want to lose weight, they want the majority of that weight to come from fat. Only here in this forum will someone champion losing weight with a terrible diet of cookies and cakes and say " hey as long as you stay in your calorie window its OK " . People should learn how to eat quality, nutritious foods if they want to lose fat and have a healthy body composition. I'm not here to say who's wrong or right but if you think your body fat percentage will drop while eating majority cookies and twinkies inside your calorie window, then you go right ahead. But if you want to lose weight along with drop your body fat percentage, then healthy nutritious foods would be the way to go.
If they eat at a calorie deficit, they will lose weight. There's nothing magical about healthy, nutritious foods that will make people lose fat whereas eating cookies and Twinkies will make people lose muscle. A professor at Kansas State University actually did lose weight eating primarily Twinkies; not only did he lose fat, but his cholesterol levels improved: http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/.
No one is advocating a Twinkie-based diet; if I am wrong about this, please post a link to prove it. What people are saying is that it is possible to eat cookies and Twinkies now and again and still lose weight.
But you don't address the body composition part of the bolded sentence.
I don't think quality food is necessary for good body composition, but the Twinkie diet is a poor example if healthy body composition is part of the discussion as opposed to just weight loss.
Not everyone can eat twinkies and lose weight just because your professor did this is poor diet
Yes everyone (except in the case of a medical issue) can eat Twinkies and lose weight.0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »ClosetBayesian wrote: »gataman3000 wrote: »
Disagree. Lots of dudes in the pen are pretty lean and have abs. And it ain't from quality nutrition.gataman3000 wrote: »Weight no, fat yes, if you want to be skinny fat, follow calories in and calories out only, if you want to lose fat, potentially have abs and a small waist, then I would eat foods with quality nutrition. When you say weight only it generally starts a firestorm on these boards when in actuality you want to lose weight and fat. You don't want to lose 20 or 30 pounds and still have 40 or 50 percent body fat.
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Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
This must be some kind of joke, do you think people in prison have access to five guys burgers, milkshakes and family size packs of Oreo cookies...no. Some of the responses are just amazing but this one took the cake. Only point I'm trying to make is that when people say they want to lose weight, they want the majority of that weight to come from fat. Only here in this forum will someone champion losing weight with a terrible diet of cookies and cakes and say " hey as long as you stay in your calorie window its OK " . People should learn how to eat quality, nutritious foods if they want to lose fat and have a healthy body composition. I'm not here to say who's wrong or right but if you think your body fat percentage will drop while eating majority cookies and twinkies inside your calorie window, then you go right ahead. But if you want to lose weight along with drop your body fat percentage, then healthy nutritious foods would be the way to go.
If they eat at a calorie deficit, they will lose weight. There's nothing magical about healthy, nutritious foods that will make people lose fat whereas eating cookies and Twinkies will make people lose muscle. A professor at Kansas State University actually did lose weight eating primarily Twinkies; not only did he lose fat, but his cholesterol levels improved: http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/.
No one is advocating a Twinkie-based diet; if I am wrong about this, please post a link to prove it. What people are saying is that it is possible to eat cookies and Twinkies now and again and still lose weight.
But you don't address the body composition part of the bolded sentence.
I don't think quality food is necessary for good body composition, but the Twinkie diet is a poor example if healthy body composition is part of the discussion as opposed to just weight loss.
Not everyone can eat twinkies and lose weight just because your professor did this is poor diet
Did you read the article? Actually yes, everyone can eat Twinkies and lose weight, if they are in a calorie deficit. That is the point of the scientific experiment that professor was conducting. It was not a recommendation that others engage in a Twinkie only diet.
This is actually why I hate when people post that link because others don't understand the point and think that is something that people are recommending.
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