Have you ever tried clean eating?
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bclarke1990 wrote: »JeromeBarry1 wrote: »Mandygring wrote: »unprocessed, whole foods like fruits, vegetables, whole grains, lean meats, and no artificial ingredients, preservatives, sugars, saturated fat, and trans fat.
So my lunch of stir-fried vegetables in olive oil with chicken and black beans would earn me a "clean" designation, but the frozen yogurt bar I just had wouldn't. OK. In your usage, or rather in the usage of the community which influenced you to claim this status, is "clean" a moral judgement?
Olive oil is heavily processed (fiber and nutrients removed and pure fat extracted), and I don't think any informed RD would recommend it as a staple in a diet focused around health.
How about Dietitians if Canada?
http://www.dietitians.ca/Your-Health/Nutrition-A-Z/Heart-Health/Healthy-Eating-Guidelines-to-Prevent-Heart-Disease.aspx
Or Ontario
http://www.eatrightontario.ca/en/Articles/Cooking/Food-Preparation/How-to-use-different-oils-when-cooking.aspx#.V3g1PvR6Wc01 -
Nope
*continues to happily eat her nachos*16 -
JeromeBarry1 wrote: »Mandygring wrote: »unprocessed, whole foods like fruits, vegetables, whole grains, lean meats, and no artificial ingredients, preservatives, sugars, saturated fat, and trans fat.
So my lunch of stir-fried vegetables in olive oil with chicken and black beans would earn me a "clean" designation, but the frozen yogurt bar I just had wouldn't. OK. In your usage, or rather in the usage of the community which influenced you to claim this status, is "clean" a moral judgement?
Not even olive oil (one of the most widely accepted healthy oils....) would make the clean cut as it contains some saturated fat along with the majority of monounsaturated fat.
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I'm not sure what you mean by "results." I ate raw for a few weeks just to see what it was like. I learned a lot about foods I don't normally eat, and it was very educational. Ditto for primal. Ditto for keto.
I didn't do these things in order to lose weight; I did them to educate myself about different ways of eating, my attitudes towards them, finding things that make me feel full, and to see what I was missing.
Doing this is very useful and interesting (to me!), but completely changing your eating habits -- including "eating clean" -- is totally unnecessary for weight loss.11 -
I tried to figure out what clean eating IS (and isn't), but failed and gave up. So I just decided to eat, weigh and log, and hit calorie goal, lost 50 pounds, and keep it off 20 months later. I think that counts as visible results.
Concepts like "clean eating" may be well meant (but I really think they are created to sell books and plans), but they seem to be based on the assumption that people who don't think of their diet as "clean", don't care about what they eat, at all. It ain't necessarily so. Even though I eat "processed" food (my milk and yogurt, crispbread and oatmeal, my smoked salmon and ground beef, have all been through a factory-like facility), I also eat quite a lot of fruit and vegetables, but I don't avoid naturally fatty meats or naturally occuring saturated fat or sugar, because that would mean cutting out large amounts of nutritious (and delicious) foods, for instance that aforementioned fruit and dairy and salmon and beef. Defining "artificial" is just as hopeless as "processed". Trans fats is not an issue because I do a lot of my own cooking from ingredients that don't have trans fats, and dont burn it.
Oh, and I don't cheat. Even if I don't track, my body does it for me.5 -
Lol awesome guys. Thanks for all your responses, negative and positive.3
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5 second rule! Unless it's something moist or gets a hair stuck to it. That's my clean eating.31
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Id say im eating clean as I cant imagine what eating dirty is like LOL!!! nahh but really..Im just making healthier choices in general.. I dont want to be too restricted or i would probably fail haha CICO for me.1
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Hahahahaha 5 second rule is great!3
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Lovee_Dove7 wrote: »Mandygring wrote: »unprocessed, whole foods like fruits, vegetables, whole grains, lean meats, and no artificial ingredients, preservatives, sugars, saturated fat, and trans fat.
no such thing as a metabolic reset. you cannot reset your metabolism.14 -
I wash my fruits and veg before i eat.6
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xmichaelyx wrote: »I'm not sure what you mean by "results." I ate raw for a few weeks just to see what it was like. I learned a lot about foods I don't normally eat, and it was very educational. Ditto for primal. Ditto for keto.
I didn't do these things in order to lose weight; I did them to educate myself about different ways of eating, my attitudes towards them, finding things that make me feel full, and to see what I was missing.
Doing this is very useful and interesting (to me!), but completely changing your eating habits -- including "eating clean" -- is totally unnecessary for weight loss.
Top notch attitude! I expect that there is a lot many of us could learn by trying a different eating system every now and then.3 -
Mandygring wrote: »Lol awesome guys. Thanks for all your responses, negative and positive.xmichaelyx wrote: »I'm not sure what you mean by "results." I ate raw for a few weeks just to see what it was like. I learned a lot about foods I don't normally eat, and it was very educational. Ditto for primal. Ditto for keto.
I didn't do these things in order to lose weight; I did them to educate myself about different ways of eating, my attitudes towards them, finding things that make me feel full, and to see what I was missing.
Doing this is very useful and interesting (to me!), but completely changing your eating habits -- including "eating clean" -- is totally unnecessary for weight loss.
I realize I haven't been totally honest with you, OP, not on purpose, but I forgot.
I've been doing the same as xmichaelyx, but I didn't start out that way and with that as a goal. I DID try to eat clean, paleo, primal, I DID believe clean food was a thing, I DID believe I was addicted to sugar and that sugar and additives were poisons that manufacturers put into our food with the intent to make us sick, hungry and addicted. This aversion made me motivated to make more food from scratch (and eat it) and look for single ingredient foods. My attitude NOW - that cooking from scratch is a pleasurable activity, that it's flexible, fun, economical and provides more nutritious and tasty food, would NOT have been enough to spark a change in habits.
Whatever belief or idea that makes you improve your habits, if your habits need improvement, is valuable, and I will try be a little less patronizing and impatient when I participate in these kinds of threads in the future.7 -
bclarke1990 wrote: »I've been eating all whole foods for the last few months. Something psychologically satisfying knowing I'm fueling my body with good stuff and eating for health rather than calories and weight loss. So yea, sort of.
You know, I tend to agree with that, with one caveat. Fueling your body with good food feels satisfying, but fueling your mind with satisfying foods feels good and contributes to better mental health, stress reduction and sustainability.
In that sense I do eat clean, I suppose, since I care how nutritious a lot of my foods are, but I also eat "unclean" because I care about my health in holistic ways that are not limited to macros and micros, and in ways I know can be easily and indefinitely sustained.6 -
This is likely to be one of those things where terminology becomes the bigger difference than application when comparing clean eaters to those people who are successfully dieting but not necessarily eating clean.
Mindset is also a potential difference.
Just for example I think MOST people who are successful in the long term very likely eat "mostly" nutritious foods that are minimally refined. By "most" definitions of the phrase "clean" (yes, it's ambiguous) you could say that these people eat mostly clean.
And I think most clean eaters probably don't maintain 100% adherence to their own definition of clean.
However I do think the mindset difference is worth noting and is significant when it comes to the outlook of the diet. Let me be clear that this isn't something that's going to apply to EVERYONE:
Taking a stance where you have foods that are good and foods that are bad is likely something that can lead to an unhealthy mindset (IN SOME, not ALL people) about dieting in general.
Taking a stance where you view your diet as "I'm going to eat these foods most of the time, and I'm only going to eat these other foods once in a while as something special/etc" is likely a healtheir and more sustainable mindset/viewpoint.
The actual differences in diets probably aren't all that big.12 -
I'll also add, that ironically, when you look at my diet when I'm in a fat loss phase it very closely resembles "clean eating" by most standards, in that it's almost all minimally refined foods, very little heavily refined foods, no logging of calories, relying on satiety and food selection to create the deficit.
This, by definition is flexible dieting because it fully aligns with my dietary preferences for fat loss.5 -
Nope
I do try to incorporate plenty of more nutritionally dense foods into my diet, but I do love me some good highly processed foods4 -
If I can't pronounce it on the label, then I don't eat it. Mainly stay to outside perimeter of the store now. I have however been known to breakdown and have a spaghetti and homemade meatballs
>_> Pasta...weakness is strong with this one it is.1 -
I guess it depends on how you define that...
My diet is relatively "clean"...but it's not like I don't eat some processed foods and go out to eat and stuff like that. I just eat a well balanced and highly nutritious diet and don't sweat the small stuff because the small stuff is pretty irrelevant to the whole.2 -
Mandygring wrote: »I'm curious if anyone has tried clean eating and saw results. I have been doing it for a while now and feel so much better.
I got into a routine of doing it and got amazing results, I've really slipped up with it recently. I felt and looked quite a bit better and had more energy2
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