November 2016 Running Challenge

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  • katharmonic
    katharmonic Posts: 5,720 Member
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    Date:: :::: Miles :::: Nov total (goal = 75)
    11/01/16 :::: 5.7 :::: 5.7
    11/02/16 :::: 2.9 :::: 8.5
    11/03/16 :::: 2.2 :::: 10.7
    11/04/16 :::: 2.0 :::: 12.7
    11/05/16 :::: 6.4 :::: 19.1
    11/06/16 :::: 2.5 :::: 21.6
    11/07/16 :::: 0.0 :::: 21.6
    11/08/16 :::: 0.0 :::: 21.6
    11/09/16 :::: 2.4 :::: 24.0
    11/10/16 :::: 0.0 :::: 24.0
    11/11/16 :::: 2.4 :::: 26.5
    11/12/16 :::: 7.2 :::: 33.7
    11/13/16 :::: 3.1 :::: 36.8
    11/14/16 :::: 2.8 :::: 39.5
    11/15/16 :::: 5.6 :::: 45.1
    11/16/16 :::: 2.7 :::: 47.9

    Took advantage of a morning with nothing definite on my schedule and took Stella out for a later run. I overdressed for the weather, it turned out to be really pleasant out there. It wasn't the best run, as I was still tired from last night's workout, but I'm glad it's done.
  • garygse
    garygse Posts: 896 Member
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    I love the Texas weather at this time of the year...the mornings are just perfect for running. Better make the most of it while I can!

    04 - 13.25 miles
    07 - 10.53
    09 - 10.53
    11 - 11.18
    14 - 11.01
    16 - 11.02

    Total: 67.52 / 100
  • MobyCarp
    MobyCarp Posts: 2,927 Member
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    As a beginner, how often should I run? I only started 6 weeks ago when I couldn't run 100 yards! I'm now up to around 4.5 doing a very slow but non-stop jog.

    I've been aiming for three but I see some people run almost every day. Would that be too much for a newbie?

    I started from a 5K training program, coming from being able to run one minute before I had to slow to a walk. During the course of the 5K program, I scrupulously limited myself to 3 days a week, and made sure I didn't run on consecutive days.

    After completing the program, I wanted to run Saturday and Sunday, because those were the days when I had free time. I started running 4 days a week, and did fine . . . until I had a bunch of vacation at the end of December 2011. Then I started running 5 days, added the distance too fast, and ran myself into injury on 20-25 miles per week. Fast forward a few years, a lot of learning, and a lot of gradual building, and in 2015 I was able to *recover* from a rolled ankle while running 5 days and 30 miles a week. But that would not have worked out well when I'd only been running a few weeks.

    For having been running only 6 weeks, I'd say limit yourself to no more than 4 days a week, and if your body tells you that you need a rest day after a running day, 3 days a week is OK. You'll be ready for more when you don't have any residual soreness at all after your longest run of the week; but even then, add distance and running time slowly and gradually. Ramping up slowly can be frustrating, but it's not as frustrating as couch time.
  • lporter229
    lporter229 Posts: 4,907 Member
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    11/1- 4 miles solo plus 1 mile with Stella
    11/2- 0.8 miles with Stella (AM)+5 miles lunchtime run
    11/3-5 miles AM + 1 mile with Stella
    11/4-Rest Day
    11/5- 10 miles
    11/6-7 miles +1 mile with Stella
    11/7-Rest Day
    11/8- 5.1 miles solo + 1.1 mile with Stella(who killed it...pace PR for her!)
    11/9-5.1 miles of Mound hills+1 mile with Stella
    11/10-6 miles Beckett Ridge +0.7 miles with Stella
    11/11-4 mile lunch run +1.3 AM run with Stella
    11/12- Rest/travel day
    11/13-9.1 miles in Charlotte
    11/14-1.2 miles with Stella
    11/15-5 miles + .5 miles with Stella
    11/16-5 miles + 1 mile with Stella

    I have determined that Stella is not very good at running in the dark. She tries to chase the glow of my headlamp on the ground as it bounces around LOL. Also, I want to give a shout out to the moon for making last night's run and this morning's run so scenic and interesting :)

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  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
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    As a beginner, how often should I run? I only started 6 weeks ago when I couldn't run 100 yards! I'm now up to around 4.5 doing a very slow but non-stop jog.

    I've been aiming for three but I see some people run almost every day. Would that be too much for a newbie?

    I agree with the others. 3X a week is plenty starting out. If you feel like doing more you can always add a day every few weeks or add milage to each day. You seem to be making great progress! Took me months to get near 10mpw without injury. Remember to cut it back every few weeks for a rest/recovery.

    You're welcome to jump right in November, no need to wait for December's madness running challenge! More the merrier!
  • RespectTheKitty
    RespectTheKitty Posts: 1,667 Member
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    My shins ache today for some reason. I've never had that problem before. I guess it's a good thing today is a rest day.
  • MobyCarp
    MobyCarp Posts: 2,927 Member
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    agusia_b wrote: »
    Since it's now dark at 5PM, I've been running on an outdoor track because it's relatively safe and lighted. It's regular size, 1600m track from an old school that is no longer active. I have a stupid question, can you run both ways on a running track? I've seen some walkers and runners and everyone is always going counterclockwise. Another question, can running on a track for longer distances, 5-8 miles (I know, super boring) leave you predisposed to some injuries because of frequent turns?

    @agusia_b - That's actually a good question. It is possible for always turning in the same direction to contribute to repetitive motion type injuries. For that reason, the custom of my running club is to do warmup and easy runs clockwise on the track, while races and speed work are done counterclockwise. I assume that is also the reason that the narrow upper track at the local college has posted rules where the direction alternates by day of the week, i.e. everyone goes clockwise M-W-F and counterclockwise Tu-Th-Sat.

    How much of always the same direction is too much? I don't know, but it's got to be an awful lot. I know that the worst physical problem I had from running 22 miles on that narrow upper track (177 laps on a 200m track) was a lost toenail. I suspect that it doesn't take all that much variety to avoid the repetitive motion injuries from same direction turns, and I got enough variety on my road running days.
  • Stoshew71
    Stoshew71 Posts: 6,553 Member
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    agusia_b wrote: »
    Since it's now dark at 5PM, I've been running on an outdoor track because it's relatively safe and lighted. It's regular size, 1600m track from an old school that is no longer active. I have a stupid question, can you run both ways on a running track? I've seen some walkers and runners and everyone is always going counterclockwise. Another question, can running on a track for longer distances, 5-8 miles (I know, super boring) leave you predisposed to some injuries because of frequent turns?

    If you are the only one on the track, you can run it in any direction.
    If there are others on the track, you follow the posted local protocols.
    If ones are not posted, then you follow what everyone else is doing (slowest runners towards the outside lanes leaving the inside lanes reserved for the faster runners).

    Turning a lot will force you to use certain muscles more frequently than say if you ran mostly straight away. Not that should cause any additional worry for injury, but something just to keep in mind.
  • greenolivetree
    greenolivetree Posts: 1,282 Member
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    Actually held an easy pace for a whole 3 miles last night, averaged 10:50. My breathing actually felt slightly better for once. My left shin is definitely sore. No running today or tomorrow and maybe I'll be good to go Friday. If not, I'm going to be ticked off. LOL @RespectTheKitty Good luck resting your shins also!

    Welcome @witchy_wife! I don't repeat the good advice you've already been given :)

    Nov 1 - 45 min light walking, not all at once
    Nov 2 - Rest day
    Nov 3 - 4 mile run and .75 mi walk
    Nov 4 - 2.5 mi run (went badly) and 1.5 mi walk, pilates
    Nov 5 - 1.35 mi run to Dollar General and back, 3.65 mi run with intervals, .8 mi walk
    Nov 6 - 1 hour indoor cardio/strength combo workout
    Nov 7 - 45 min light cardio.....3.1 mi run and a little more walking
    Nov 8 - 1 slow mile walk, BACK PAIN
    Nov 9 - NOTHING - BACK PAIN
    Nov 10 - NOTHING - BACK PAIN
    Nov 11 - 6 mi run, 3.6 mi walk
    Nov 12 - 4 mi hilly run, 2 mi walk
    Nov 13 - 4 mi run, .75 mi walk
    Nov 14 - Rest day
    Nov 15 - 3 mi run, 1.5 mi walk

    Running Goal 31.7/60 miles


    I'm frustrated with my lack of non-running workouts, mainly strength training. Good news is today I did not wake up with a stiff sore back! Finally! I'm off work next week and definitely planning some cross-training. Maybe I'll get back on a schedule.
  • lporter229
    lporter229 Posts: 4,907 Member
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    MobyCarp wrote: »

    @agusia_b - That's actually a good question. It is possible for always turning in the same direction to contribute to repetitive motion type injuries. For that reason, the custom of my running club is to do warmup and easy runs clockwise on the track, while races and speed work are done counterclockwise. I assume that is also the reason that the narrow upper track at the local college has posted rules where the direction alternates by day of the week, i.e. everyone goes clockwise M-W-F and counterclockwise Tu-Th-Sat.

    How much of always the same direction is too much? I don't know, but it's got to be an awful lot. I know that the worst physical problem I had from running 22 miles on that narrow upper track (177 laps on a 200m track) was a lost toenail. I suspect that it doesn't take all that much variety to avoid the repetitive motion injuries from same direction turns, and I got enough variety on my road running days.

    This is true. With the limited daylight, I tend to run more in my neighborhood, which is made up of a ton of cul de sacs. I run on the left side of the street, but I alternate which direction I turn at the end of each cul de sac.
  • Stoshew71
    Stoshew71 Posts: 6,553 Member
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    Date Miles today - Miles for November
    11/1 9 miles - 9 << 5 above VT 4 below VT
    11/1 5 miles - 14 << Daily Double 5 below VT
    11/2 5 miles - 19 << 5 below VT
    11/3 9.5 miles - 28.5 << 9.5 below VT
    11/3 5 miles - 33.5 << Daily Double 5 miles below VT
    11/4 5 miles - 38.5 << 1 mile above VT and 4 miles below VT
    11/5 13 miles - 51.5
    11/6 REST DAY
    11/7 5 miles - 56.5 << 5 below VT
    11/8 6.2 miles - 62.7 << 6.2 below VT
    11/9 4 miles - 66.7 << 3.5 below VT
    11/10 5 miles - 71.7 << 5 below VT
    11/11 2 miles - 73.7 << easy shake out run
    11/12 14.1 miles - 87.8 << HHM + 1 mi warmup
    11/13 REST DAY
    11/14 4 miles - 91.8 << easy recovery
    11/15 7.3 miles - 99.1
    11/16 4 miles - 103.1

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    Upcoming races:
    UAH 8K - 3/6 <<< 34:33 3 in AG
    Oak Barrel HM - 4/2 <<<< 1:38:00 3 in AG
    Bridge Street HM - 4/10 <<< 1:36:33 3 in AG
    PEO-AVN Team Day 5K - 5/4 <<< 19:10 (2.9 mi) 1 in AG 5 OA
    Cotton Row Run 10K - 5/30 << 44:57 PR
    Firecracker Chase 10.2 miler 6/25 << 1:20:22 1 in AG & 15 OA
    Huntsville Half Marathon - 11/12 << 1:35:55 2 in AG & 25 OA
    Rocket City Marathon - 12/10



  • lissadecker
    lissadecker Posts: 220 Member
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    November goal: 75 miles
    11/1: 3 miles (m)
    11/2: Rest Day
    11/3: 3 miles
    11/4: 3 miles (m)
    11/5: 3 miles
    11/6: 2.75 miles
    11/7: 3 miles (m)
    11/8: 3 miles
    11/9: Rest Day
    11/10: Rest Day
    11/11: No running per Doc
    11/12: No running per Doc
    11/13: No running per Doc
    11/14: No running per Doc
    11/15: No running per Doc
    11/16: 4 miles

    My Total/November: 24.75 miles
    Mike's Total: 9 miles

    I'm back! Felt so good to run today that I just kept on going. I stopped at 4 miles, which was probably a good idea, though I really kind of wanted to go for 5. Dragging myself out of bed this morning was not fun, but I am so glad I did. No issues with the lungs so I think I may be out of the woods there now. I am not sure if I am going to be able to hit my goal for the month with 7 unplanned off days, but I am going to give it a try anyway.

    I missed a ton of posts over the last two days. I'll admit, I just skimmed 'em.

    Have a great day everyone!

    Upcoming Race:
    12/3 Snowball Run 5K, Kingwood TX

    AND...my ticker won't update again. :(
  • Getfitat54
    Getfitat54 Posts: 526 Member
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    November running

    11/01: day off
    11/02: 1.93
    11/03: day off
    11/04: 1.97
    11/05: day off
    11/06: day off
    11/07: day off
    11/08: 2.16
    11/09: day off
    11/10: 1.57
    11/11: day off
    11/12: 1.52
    11/13: day off
    11/14: 1.49
    11/15: day off
    11/16: 1.69
    11/17: day off


    Total: 12.33
    Miles Left to go: 17.67
  • Getfitat54
    Getfitat54 Posts: 526 Member
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    I gotta say, some of you have some beautiful running locations. Kudos to you all.
  • mom3over40
    mom3over40 Posts: 253 Member
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    Date .. Miles .. Total
    11/01 .. 05.6 .. 05.6
    11/02 .. Rest
    11/03 .. 06.5 .. 12.1
    11/04 .. Rest
    11/05 .. Rest
    11/06 .. 08.4 .. 20.5
    11/07 .. Rest
    11/08 .. 07.0 .. 27.5
    11/09 .. Rest
    11/10 .. Rest
    11/11 .. 04.9 .. 32.4
    11/12 .. 10.3 .. 42.7
    11/13 .. Rest
    11/14 .. 01.5 .. 44.2
    11/15 .. 05.2 .. 49.4

    Went out to run in the evening yesterday. Felt very tired overall. Probably because I tried to run a fast mile the day before...

    I have a question about running at conversational pace uphill: I have a lot of slopes in the neighborhood, is it better to walk uphill if I can't run slow enough to keep it at conversational? My guess is that walking maybe better for overall endurance. But I also wonder what is best for getting better in running those hills. I think my uphill runs are particularly terrible in the sense that I need to slow way down to feel the same comfort level as running relatively flat roads, sometimes up to 4 min/mile slower (15 min/mile vs 11 min/mile). It is particularly obvious when running in groups, people who may run flats around my pace can run uphill without showing as much discomfort faster...

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  • lporter229
    lporter229 Posts: 4,907 Member
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    mom3over40 wrote: »

    I have a question about running at conversational pace uphill: I have a lot of slopes in the neighborhood, is it better to walk uphill if I can't run slow enough to keep it at conversational? My guess is that walking maybe better for overall endurance. But I also wonder what is best for getting better in running those hills. I think my uphill runs are particularly terrible in the sense that I need to slow way down to feel the same comfort level as running relatively flat roads, sometimes up to 4 min/mile slower (15 min/mile vs 11 min/mile). It is particularly obvious when running in groups, people who may run flats around my pace can run uphill without showing as much discomfort faster...

    Disclaimer: This answer is based purely on opinion and may be in conflict with what others may tell you. I do not walk up hills. I may slow my pace, but my heart rate is always elevated versus running on flat ground. I figure that the downhill portions of the run will tend to even things out. Even though I routinely run some hilly terrain on my slow runs, I tend to look at it as a bit of low intensity interval training. Some people say that hills are speed work in disguise. As long as you are not doing what amounts to heavy hill repeats, I really don't see the problem. I try to avoid them if I need a true recovery day though. Otherwise, I just embrace the hills. As you eluded to in your post, it's really the best way to get better at running them.
  • HeatherMN
    HeatherMN Posts: 3,821 Member
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    Oops, forgot to check in over the past week. I'm not even going to attempt to catch up on posts. Hope all is well for everyone!

    I ran 3.16 miles last night with friends. It felt slightly hard, but really good. The weather here has been PERFECT for running, though rumor is that it will be changing this weekend.

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  • MNLittleFinn
    MNLittleFinn Posts: 4,271 Member
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    HeatherMN wrote: »
    Oops, forgot to check in over the past week. I'm not even going to attempt to catch up on posts. Hope all is well for everyone!

    I ran 3.16 miles last night with friends. It felt slightly hard, but really good. The weather here has been PERFECT for running, though rumor is that it will be changing this weekend.

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    Forecast says I'll get 5-8 inches of snow on Friday. That will make my planned 10 miler on Saturday more interesting.
  • greenolivetree
    greenolivetree Posts: 1,282 Member
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    HeatherMN wrote: »
    Oops, forgot to check in over the past week. I'm not even going to attempt to catch up on posts. Hope all is well for everyone!

    I ran 3.16 miles last night with friends. It felt slightly hard, but really good. The weather here has been PERFECT for running, though rumor is that it will be changing this weekend.

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    Forecast says I'll get 5-8 inches of snow on Friday. That will make my planned 10 miler on Saturday more interesting.

    We are currently hanging out at 81 degrees. 80-freakin-1. LOL Supposed to finally drop slightly below the freezing mark this Fri/Sat! I feel like I'm hung up in a time loop with our weather here.
  • Princess4Run
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    @5512bf @Stoshew71 and @MobyCarp thank you for the advice. The track doesn't have posted protocols. It's not super busy and often times I'm the only one there. I'll switch around my direction when possible