What is the daftest weight related thing someone has ever said to you?
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I don't know. I just think if you are compelled to do something you hate and wish you could stop but can't, then it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.
Anyhoo...the daftest thing anyone ever saidd to me was that I was gaining weight despite working out because I was putting on muscle (during my very easy weekly sessions with a personal trainer) I swear to god she didn't even ask me what I was eating.
There's an element of "eye of the beholder" in that "compelled" word, too.
Very often, I fail to do things that I know it would be better for me to do, and also do things that it would be better for me to avoid. It would be nice to be able to say that I was "compelled" to act in the way I did. But I'd know I was lying to myself.
Obligatory on-topic daft thing: "You can't drink alcohol and still lose weight, because the alcohol gets metabolized first" (it does, more or less), "and anything you eat around the same time just gets stored as fat" (It doesn't, if you're in a deficit).3 -
CattOfTheGarage wrote: »youdoyou2016 wrote: »nickslat1961 wrote: »Diet soda will make you gain weight and causes cancer
Well I have actually read a lot of studies about diet soda and none of them are good. The problem with DS is your body thinks it is sweet and you have just taken in sugar, when you haven't, so your body produces insulin to regulate the sugar you didn't drink. Eventually your body starts to slow down on insulin production and problems start. And if you don't think the phenylaniline (sp.) in Diet Coke is bad, just google it and see. If 1/2 of what is said about it is true it is really bad for you
Any studies done that suggest diet soda causes weight gain are correlational. What that means is that there is a correlation between those who drink diet soda and those who are overweight...but if we could all say it together now..."correlation does not equal causation!".
Any link between the two is easily explained by the fact that people who are already overweight/diabetic begin drinking diet soda to help them lose weight/control blood sugar.
Have a nice day.
You can employ this reasoning about anything regarding health: cigarettes, alcohol, dark chocolate, apples, seat belts, multi-vitamins, aspirin, eating breakfast, not eating breakfast ... (Also, the above is not a "fact.")
Links between things can be explained "easily" however you decide to link what with what.
Have a nice day.
You know that's not just done at random, right? There's a whole science around how to work out the difference between correlation and causation and it's not just based on which outcome you like better.
I haven't personally looked into the evidence on artifical sweeteners so I don't have a stance on it, but I would say that googling an issue and finding that people are saying bad stuff is completely irrelevant. You need to look at peer reviewed studies and make an effort to assess the quality of the study and also check whether what it claims to prove (or others claim it proves) is actually possible to prove with that study.
As an example, the decision that studies on lung cancer and cigarettes prove causation took a lot of time, analysis and careful study design. It was not based on a bit of correlation and a hunch.
I love the example of that the number of babies born in a town has a direct correlation to the number of Indian takeaways in that town. So we can obviously assume that a good curry helps pregnancy yeah LOL
Curry is sexy.
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An OBGYN told me when I went in for my first appointment that the only time he'd seen stretch marks like that was on a pregnant lady.
An allergist told me I couldn't possibly lose weight myself because if I could have, I would have and that I should have surgery.
My mother told me that good boys don't like fat girls. At that point I was about 160 pounds in high school.
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CafeRacer808 wrote: »Dianetheinvincible wrote: »One myth that has not only gone unchallenged on this thread but been seconded by a number of people is that sugar is not addictive. Many studies have shown that affects the brain very similarly to cocaine; it stimulates the same pleasure center and long-term abuse of sugar depletes dopamine in the brain--the very same reason cocaine is addictive. A study last year demonstrated that a nicotine-addiction drug was successful in treating sugar addiction. Etc.
Cuddling your pet activates the same pleasure areas in your brain. Sugar is not addictive. The reason we crave it is evolutionary, from when calories were scarce.
This. Just because a stimulus activates the same pleasure center in the brain doesn't make that stimulus physically addictive. As I was rhetorically pointing out in one of my earlier responses upthread, one's inability to control their sugar intake never reaches the stage that real addicts deal with, be they heroin users, cocaine users, alcoholics, etc. I also believe that equating sugar to hard drug addiction is an insult to actual addicts and their families, because it minimizes the struggle and loss that those people go through on a daily basis.
I challenge anyone who claims sugar is as addictive as actual drugs to point me towards a case study showing "sugar addicts" throwing their lives away to get their sugar fix. And as stated by someone else upthread, the side effects of heroin withdrawal can actually be fatal. Sugar withdrawal, on the other hand? I think not.
ETA: I watched a friend overcome a heroin addiction. In the year it took her to get clean, she dealt with seizures, vomiting, panic attacks, and severe clinical depression. Another friend who was addicted to meth tried for years to kick his habit and ended up dying. I've also seen many people in my life try to kick their sugar habit. And I can assure you it's not even close.
Thank you!
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Just heard someone detail their chicken, steak and salad only diet. No fruit, especially bananas, cuz fruit is as bad as a Snickers bar. Cuz sugar.
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That I should not lose any more weight - I would be too thin- it would be unhealthy. When they said that, I needed to lose at least 50 more lbs.
Somebody said that to me too. I was down 50lbs and had another 30-40 go before my goal (and it was a very healthy realistic goal for me).5 -
dustedwithsugar wrote: »
I know, right?! I always want to ask how did they become fat in the first place, if eating 1200 kcal is such an impossible task SMHelisa123gal wrote: »MFP posts seeking advice on the struggles of trying to eat 1200 or 1000 calories. "I feel so full I'm stuffed how can i get my daily calories in?" Just who do they think they're talking to?
A lot of folks never read the nutrition information of the food they eat until AFTER joining the website. 1200 calories' worth of fried Twinkies looks a heck of a lot different than 1200 calories' worth of nutrient-dense food. Taking into account all the chewing that has to go into getting down anything with fiber vs. anything made mostly of fat, and of course you're going to get newcomers asking those kinds of questions. Let's not forget if they're (finally) drinking plenty of water for the first time! They're bound to have questions of how to fit it all in, etc. We all gotta start somewhere. JS.
Bad advice I've gotten:- Tracking my intake and watching what I eat will trigger my ED (No, it doesn't work that way)
- That 1230 calories a day is a "starvation diet" and I'm just low-key getting back into my old habits (I have a desk job and don't move around as much)
- Consuming fried foods is good for you because your body will be more willing to release fat if you eat a lot of it, at least 2000 calories worth (At my heaviest, I was 400 lbs. No thanks).
- Smoking helps you lose weight (Yeah, it also made me drop dead in front of my daughter of a pulmonary embolism, but thanks).
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CafeRacer808 wrote: »Dianetheinvincible wrote: »One myth that has not only gone unchallenged on this thread but been seconded by a number of people is that sugar is not addictive. Many studies have shown that affects the brain very similarly to cocaine; it stimulates the same pleasure center and long-term abuse of sugar depletes dopamine in the brain--the very same reason cocaine is addictive. A study last year demonstrated that a nicotine-addiction drug was successful in treating sugar addiction. Etc.
Cuddling your pet activates the same pleasure areas in your brain. Sugar is not addictive. The reason we crave it is evolutionary, from when calories were scarce.
This. Just because a stimulus activates the same pleasure center in the brain doesn't make that stimulus physically addictive. As I was rhetorically pointing out in one of my earlier responses upthread, one's inability to control their sugar intake never reaches the stage that real addicts deal with, be they heroin users, cocaine users, alcoholics, etc. I also believe that equating sugar to hard drug addiction is an insult to actual addicts and their families, because it minimizes the struggle and loss that those people go through on a daily basis.
I challenge anyone who claims sugar is as addictive as actual drugs to point me towards a case study showing "sugar addicts" throwing their lives away to get their sugar fix. And as stated by someone else upthread, the side effects of heroin withdrawal can actually be fatal. Sugar withdrawal, on the other hand? I think not.
ETA: I watched a friend overcome a heroin addiction. In the year it took her to get clean, she dealt with seizures, vomiting, panic attacks, and severe clinical depression. Another friend who was addicted to meth tried for years to kick his habit and ended up dying. I've also seen many people in my life try to kick their sugar habit. And I can assure you it's not even close.
Thank you for this. I can't help but think that people who say sugar is addictive has never really experienced a drug addicted loved one.11 -
Bad advice I've gotten:
- Tracking my intake and watching what I eat will trigger my ED (No, it doesn't work that way)
- That 1230 calories a day is a "starvation diet" and I'm just low-key getting back into my old habits (I have a desk job and don't move around as much)
- Consuming fried foods is good for you because your body will be more willing to release fat if you eat a lot of it, at least 2000 calories worth (At my heaviest, I was 400 lbs. No thanks).
- Smoking helps you lose weight (Yeah, it also made me drop dead in front of my daughter of a pulmonary embolism, but thanks).
Oh man, I'm going to popeyes to release fat! If the biscuit has enough butter does that count too?
I found this gem the other day for "Because people will believe anything"
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Rebecca0224 wrote: »I'm not gonna learn statistics, it's boring, too, and just makes you lie to people. It's almost like math, or something.
62.8% of statistics are made up on the spot, you know. Within a 0.02% tolerance, of course.TheopolisAmbroiseIII wrote: »This thread enrages me because it's about 70% stupid myths, and about 20% people who think true things are stupid myths, and 10% people who pedantically refuse to understand the actual intention behind the phrase "muscle weighs more than fat".
I read a very long-winded comment on a blog somewhere (maybe even MFP's own blog) about this, where the comparison was demonstrated by the difference in volume between an equal weight of feathers and gold. The commenter was going about how gold is weighed in Troy ounces so the comparison wasn't valid.
But I have to admit that the above phrase does irritate me (yes, I'm a pedant, so what? ), because it's not the weight that should be compared. At least the gold/feathers thing was talking about the volume/appearance of the same weight of each. 
As someone with a master's degree in sociology and a bachelor's degree in economics I disagree it's 63.2% of statistics are made on the spot and that as a society we accept that. Lol
Dammit, I was so close!
btw, I would totally subscribe to your "easy to understand" blog... 1 -
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Look_Its_Kriss wrote: »I was once told that i could eat an entire frozen pizza from the grocery store as long as it had veggies on it cause it was good for you... of course, technically i could.. but it wouldn't leave much room for anything else on a 1670 calorie diet, but who cares about calories, its got veggies, it's fine!
I was also told that i should take metamucil to help me lose weight faster.
In fact just today i was talking to a girl who of all things does body building competitions and starvation mode actually came out of her mouth because she said she spends a couple days eating 800 calories before a competition... as well as eating at night causes the body to store fat cause youre sleeping and you arent active like you are during the day.. and that sugar is bad... and she apparently got these things from the body building website lol.. She also claimed that eating a ton of carbs the day before a competition after eating almost nothing causes her to wake up to super defined abs... i dont have abs but.. i'd love to hear what people with abs think about that LOL
The only thing eating a ton of carbs does for me is make me extremely happy.
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Look_Its_Kriss wrote: »Lol.. Yep me too, shes got a nice figure, but some of the things she said really didnt make much sense.. i wonder if its possible to have psychosomatic view and maybe she just imagined more defined abs... like homer simpson looking in the mirror after drinking and imagining himself with massive pecks?
That sounds like a perfectly reasonable explanation to me.1 -
[fill in the blank] is fattening.
As if eating said food really will make you fat.5 -
I was actually told once that I should eat margarine instead of butter because margarine is an "artificial fat" that my body won't recognize so it will just past through me and not be absorbed. Seriously.
I made my WTF? face and the subject was never mentioned again.9 -
I live in Nigeria, and culturally it is a compliment to tell someone they are getting fat. I put on about 20 lbs when we were in the US for a few months, so when I came back I was subjected to plenty of compliments. "Wow! You've gotten HUGE!!" LOL.23
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I've heard so many.
The one that bothered me most was my Doctor telling me I had to lose weight so I could not eat pizza or ice cream. I expected my Doctor to know better...1 -
Sort of fits here but not totally as this is more or less just a funny story. My sis ate Taco Bell for month to get big butt and got an inner tube around her belly. Lol. doesn't give you J Lo booty!!.6
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Carlos_421 wrote: »TheopolisAmbroiseIII wrote: »This thread enrages me because it's about 70% stupid myths, and about 20% people who think true things are stupid myths, and 10% people who pedantically refuse to understand the actual intention behind the phrase "muscle weighs more than fat".
I haven't seen any incorrect claims go unchallenged...
Which true things are being called myths?
We've pretty much just seen CICO being called a myth...2 -
Daft diet-related advice - negative calories. Eat ALL the celery and other 'negative calorie' foods as they burn more calories to eat than they're worth.
I just saw a YouTube video about "weight loss hacks" that was spouting this nonsense and the sad part is that this youtuber's channel is directed towards young ladies ( my videos were on auto play to the next suggested video while I was on the treadmill) once I heard this is skipped to the next video
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As a skinny, athletic middle schooler in the 70's, I was told that girls can't pole vault because we are butt heavy. Right after I'd successfully made my first attempt. That coach is dead now.13
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I found this gem the other day for "Because people will believe anything"
This quote isn't really a lie. Tobacco is an appetite suppressent. My mom's weight didn't get completely out of hand until she replaced chain smoking with chain eating. I realize that's anecdotal, but it was definitely a major factor for her.
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I found this gem the other day for "Because people will believe anything"
This quote isn't really a lie. Tobacco is an appetite suppressent. My mom's weight didn't get completely out of hand until she replaced chain smoking with chain eating. I realize that's anecdotal, but it was definitely a major factor for her.
Yes. Some say it's just a mouth habit, but from experience it has a lot to do with appetite too. I was at least 500 calories hungrier (true hunger) when I quit, not just oral fixation.2 -
I found this gem the other day for "Because people will believe anything"
This quote isn't really a lie. Tobacco is an appetite suppressent. My mom's weight didn't get completely out of hand until she replaced chain smoking with chain eating. I realize that's anecdotal, but it was definitely a major factor for her.
Same for my mother as for gaining when she quit smoking - but she feels it is because she replaced the cigarette in her hands with food - As she said same movement It was never because she felt she needed/wanted food
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A girl at work is constantly saying she can lose weight just by cutting out fats. She's done this for 2yrs and not lost anything. She says it doesn't matter about calories.
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As a skinny, athletic middle schooler in the 70's, I was told that girls can't pole vault because we are butt heavy. Right after I'd successfully made my first attempt. That coach is dead now.
Your inclusion of that last detail makes it seem like it must be relevant to the story.
I'm officially creeped out.29
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