Squat, Bench, Deadlift, Snatch, C&J: Post your best videos
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Since I trust the regulars that post here, tell me how much these suck.
What do you think?
It is so frustrating that coming back from injury, every single time I squat, they just feel like I have never done the movement before. Before injury they were strong and they moved well, (platform best of 412/188kgs) even though I high bar because of the crushing lower back pain I get from low bar. I know many people have commented on my elbows, however, elbow mobility is an issue.
Anyway, I am crestfallen and pissed and I hate everything about my squat. Feel like giving up and drinking until I don't care anymore. It's a shame that I live on the first floor, because I'd totally jump.
If you want to see more video...
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-CIfsjZlDY5reCe4IOJNnw/videos1 -
Fittreelol wrote: »
I'm slightly afraid I'm going to seriously love it- and its' going to derail my financial plans- which is another reason I put it off. It needs to be done- I've been lifting long enough- there is no reason outside money not to do it.
Do ittttttttttttt. There are tons of meets in NJ/PA/NY/MD. Meet entries are normally less than $100, and I think most people compete 2-4/year so maybe at most you'd be looking at the equivalent of $35/month which is a fairly reasonable cost for a hobby.
Unfortunately- as a professional dancer- I already spend 200+ a month on dance training and then workshops/intensives scheduled throughout the year (I.E. California intensive- 4-5 days + hotel + airfare) that I foot the bill for myself- so while it's cheap compared to other hobbies- I have a motorcycle- and my professional dance career on top- so- heh- I don't really actually NEED another hobby LMAO.0 -
Fittreelol wrote: »
I'm slightly afraid I'm going to seriously love it- and its' going to derail my financial plans- which is another reason I put it off. It needs to be done- I've been lifting long enough- there is no reason outside money not to do it.
Do ittttttttttttt. There are tons of meets in NJ/PA/NY/MD. Meet entries are normally less than $100, and I think most people compete 2-4/year so maybe at most you'd be looking at the equivalent of $35/month which is a fairly reasonable cost for a hobby.
Unfortunately- as a professional dancer- I already spend 200+ a month on dance training and then workshops/intensives scheduled throughout the year (I.E. California intensive- 4-5 days + hotel + airfare) that I foot the bill for myself- so while it's cheap compared to other hobbies- I have a motorcycle- and my professional dance career on top- so- heh- I don't really actually NEED another hobby LMAO.
Darn you and all your hobbies!!! lol
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nakedraygun wrote: »Since I trust the regulars that post here, tell me how much these suck.
What do you think?
It is so frustrating that coming back from injury, every single time I squat, they just feel like I have never done the movement before. Before injury they were strong and they moved well, (platform best of 412/188kgs) even though I high bar because of the crushing lower back pain I get from low bar. I know many people have commented on my elbows, however, elbow mobility is an issue.
Anyway, I am crestfallen and pissed and I hate everything about my squat. Feel like giving up and drinking until I don't care anymore. It's a shame that I live on the first floor, because I'd totally jump.
If you want to see more video...
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-CIfsjZlDY5reCe4IOJNnw/videos
I really don't know exactly what you think needs fixing, so I'll just offer some general observations and you can take them or leave them. First, I want to say that I think your squat looks good, and the things I'll say are ALL personal preference I think.
1. I noticed that some of the reps look rushed. I don't know if that's by design or if you're just hurrying through your sets.
2. There doesn't appear to be much bracing at the top of the lift. I see you inhale, but sometimes it's after you've already started the eccentric portion of the lift. Focus on taking that air into your stomach.
3. Some reps appear to "dive-bomb" more than others. Again, I don't know if that's because you're rushing through reps or if a lingering injury makes it tough to slow it down.
4. Depth. You squat deeper than any powerlifter I know and I respect it big time (and I'm slightly jealous). I think that you can afford to cut depth about 1-1.5" if it's comfortable.
Everything I've noticed seems to just come from the speed at which you squat. It's not necessarily harmful to your squat, but slowing down may be something to consider and possibly see if it makes a difference.
PS: I hate giving my opinion sometimes because I don't want to seem as if I'm bashing. I feel like I need to reiterate the fact that I think you're an impressive lifter and your focus on keeping good form is the reason why you'll continue to be a great lifter.1 -
^ Teach me this magical purposely cutting depth thing. My *kitten* is literally 12 inches off the ground in the hole, and I'm sure I'm wasting energy because of it.1
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Thank you Chris. They look good to me, but...._incogNEATo_ wrote: »I really don't know exactly what you think needs fixing, so I'll just offer some general observations and you can take them or leave them. First, I want to say that I think your squat looks good, and the things I'll say are ALL personal preference I think.
It does feel like I rush them. Glad you noticed too._incogNEATo_ wrote: »1. I noticed that some of the reps look rushed. I don't know if that's by design or if you're just hurrying through your sets.
I try to pull the bar down into my back, but its a cue I am not to practiced yet at. Also, my shoulders make it difficult to do this. Maybe I should go wider with my grip? But the times I do that, the bar becomes even more unstable._incogNEATo_ wrote: »2. There doesn't appear to be much bracing at the top of the lift. I see you inhale, but sometimes it's after you've already started the eccentric portion of the lift. Focus on taking that air into your stomach.
Yeah and this is were it become mental. I like to make my reps quick so I get the stretch reflex carryover in the hole, but then it leads me to rush them and lose composure._incogNEATo_ wrote: »3. Some reps appear to "dive-bomb" more than others. Again, I don't know if that's because you're rushing through reps or if a lingering injury makes it tough to slow it down.
The depth I get is a byproduct of high bar and the desired stretch reflex I get from the bottom. I was thinking about switching to flat shoes, Sambas, or chucks. But I do indeed need to cut my depth._incogNEATo_ wrote: »4. Depth. You squat deeper than any powerlifter I know and I respect it big time (and I'm slightly jealous). I think that you can afford to cut depth about 1-1.5" if it's comfortable.
Maybe I should slam a box underneath my *kitten*?_incogNEATo_ wrote: »Everything I've noticed seems to just come from the speed at which you squat. It's not necessarily harmful to your squat, but slowing down may be something to consider and possibly see if it makes a difference.
Nope no bashing at all and I did ask @_incogNEATo__incogNEATo_ wrote: »PS: I hate giving my opinion sometimes because I don't want to seem as if I'm bashing. I feel like I need to reiterate the fact that I think you're an impressive lifter and your focus on keeping good form is the reason why you'll continue to be a great lifter.
Thank you of the compliments and observations it really helps my diminished confidence.2 -
I'll split you a box of candle sticks and matches?TresaAswegan wrote: »^ Teach me this magical purposely cutting depth thing. My *kitten* is literally 12 inches off the ground in the hole, and I'm sure I'm wasting energy because of it.0 -
nakedraygun wrote: »
I'll split you a box of candle sticks and matches?TresaAswegan wrote: »^ Teach me this magical purposely cutting depth thing. My *kitten* is literally 12 inches off the ground in the hole, and I'm sure I'm wasting energy because of it.
Ah, ^ High bar and skwat shoes. I am guilty of both. I guess that would be a good place for me to start.
I've been thinking about trying low bar to see if I could get more hip tork (/drive?). I've just always been high bar and used a heeled shoe I guess. Funny enough, my first year I literally cried many times because I was so frustrated I couldn't break parallel. I'm not even sure what happened to make me so "good" at it, I basically stopped squatting for a while.
But I've been noticing when I switch (or try to) from quad to lower back it shuts me down. I've considered tinkering with sumo for the same reason. But I dunno. I'm still working on figuring stuffs out.0 -
nakedraygun wrote: »Since I trust the regulars that post here, tell me how much these suck.
What do you think?
It is so frustrating that coming back from injury, every single time I squat, they just feel like I have never done the movement before. Before injury they were strong and they moved well, (platform best of 412/188kgs) even though I high bar because of the crushing lower back pain I get from low bar. I know many people have commented on my elbows, however, elbow mobility is an issue.
Anyway, I am crestfallen and pissed and I hate everything about my squat. Feel like giving up and drinking until I don't care anymore. It's a shame that I live on the first floor, because I'd totally jump.
If you want to see more video...
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-CIfsjZlDY5reCe4IOJNnw/videos
Definitely diving. I would slow it down and work on stopping it right below parallel. This will keep you hammies engaged better and give you a rebound reflex instead of bouncing at the bottom of squat. Not only that is will give you better leverage to move the weight right out of the hole. Tempo squats would be a good idea for an accessory to work on this.
Maybe get a better side view as well as front view and we can see more.
I'd also move your grip out just a touch.
Last thing, you're not really set every rep. This is equivalent to stop and goes on deads. Though not horrendous, I would concentrate on locking knees out and starting from same position every rep.
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TresaAswegan wrote: »nakedraygun wrote: »
I'll split you a box of candle sticks and matches?TresaAswegan wrote: »^ Teach me this magical purposely cutting depth thing. My *kitten* is literally 12 inches off the ground in the hole, and I'm sure I'm wasting energy because of it.
Ah, ^ High bar and skwat shoes. I am guilty of both. I guess that would be a good place for me to start.
I've been thinking about trying low bar to see if I could get more hip tork (/drive?). I've just always been high bar and used a heeled shoe I guess. Funny enough, my first year I literally cried many times because I was so frustrated I couldn't break parallel. I'm not even sure what happened to make me so "good" at it, I basically stopped squatting for a while.
But I've been noticing when I switch (or try to) from quad to lower back it shuts me down. I've considered tinkering with sumo for the same reason. But I dunno. I'm still working on figuring stuffs out.
We will always "figuring [the] stuffs" out. Yeah, I am going to try it out.1 -
Working through the rib muscle tear beltless still. My breath is much shorter than I'm use to but got in some recovery squats decently without dikloulous pain and geared up for another PR scheduled on Friday.
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That was something I used to do quite religiously after taking a seminar last year prior to my first USAPL meet. I don't know why I got away from it. I'm so broken.Last thing, you're not really set every rep. This is equivalent to stop and goes on deads. Though not horrendous, I would concentrate on locking knees out and starting from same position every rep.0 -
nakedraygun wrote: »
That was something I used to do quite religiously after taking a seminar last year prior to my first USAPL meet. I don't know why I got away from it. I'm so broken.Last thing, you're not really set every rep. This is equivalent to stop and goes on deads. Though not horrendous, I would concentrate on locking knees out and starting from same position every rep.
We all get in a rush trying to fix things. Ive been off from heavy lifting for almost 8 years now because of my injuries/health. You'll get it. Dont be at yourself up.
Tempos will point out a lot what your doing wrong. When moving so slowly you can feel your shifts in balance or if anything might not be as tight as it should be. Added bonus of getting more intensity out of a low weight.0 -
So I really need to figure out exactly how big the booty is now cause it's smaller and I just need to pull my legs back more to keep it down.
But 72.5 moving easy for triples and 87.5 while not easy moving the best since it was body weight.
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Yeah, I think I'm going to finish out just half of this program (end of next week) and then build in more sub-max squat work up to 85%. My upper strength will mostly be there after I hone my mechanics. Box squats and even tempo work will be in there too.nakedraygun wrote: »
That was something I used to do quite religiously after taking a seminar last year prior to my first USAPL meet. I don't know why I got away from it. I'm so broken.Last thing, you're not really set every rep. This is equivalent to stop and goes on deads. Though not horrendous, I would concentrate on locking knees out and starting from same position every rep.
We all get in a rush trying to fix things. Ive been off from heavy lifting for almost 8 years now because of my injuries/health. You'll get it. Dont be at yourself up.
Tempos will point out a lot what your doing wrong. When moving so slowly you can feel your shifts in balance or if anything might not be as tight as it should be. Added bonus of getting more intensity out of a low weight.1 -
After several weeks of feeling blah at the gym, today felt really good. Just for shtis and giggles I switched up everything last week. I dropped my base weight way down and going for 20 reps on everything to start out and then slowly moving up in weight and down in reps throughout the workout. I also decided to take a break from back squats and am just doing hex bar squat-lifts. Today my workout was 150x20, 190x20, 230x10, 280x5, 320x3, 370x1, 390x1 & 410x1
https://youtu.be/r8NsfvhagVA
Then I followed it up with OHP 100x19 and 3x10 pullups.6 -
465x12. Yes, I know it's only touch and go. My first 2 sets were all dead stop reps.
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nakedraygun wrote: »
That was something I used to do quite religiously after taking a seminar last year prior to my first USAPL meet. I don't know why I got away from it. I'm so broken.Last thing, you're not really set every rep. This is equivalent to stop and goes on deads. Though not horrendous, I would concentrate on locking knees out and starting from same position every rep.
You are not broken. I spent over a year (going on 2 now) continuing to tinker with my squat- I had a good 6-9 months of panicked lifting because I was crooked- and my left hip was diving further than my right hip. And I felt like in dance- everything I did was crooked. I had days where I felt like Natilie Portman in Black Swan- like complete mental breaks on what I LOOKED like- because literally the only thing I could see in the mirror or in the videos was the flaw. It was extreme.
I think we get incredibly mental/in our heads about lifting because it gets SO technical when you get up there- and EVERY little adjustment can make or break a squat.
I finally got a chance to watch-
I agree you feel very rushed- and you aren't getting internal bracing with your air- and locking down your trunk.
Also- a cue that I picked up from Juggernaut training is keeping the knees "forward" - When you come back up you see the knee shift back just a little- and it helped smooth out my trajectory up/down thinking about once they are bent- and the come forward- they stay there- they don't go back- helps my hips from shooting out the back and loosing energy from my legs and wind up good morninging said squat.
It's not ad bad as you think I promise.3 -
Okay, but 'm still old(ish) lol.You are not broken.
So what did you do? Was it mobility?I spent over a year (going on 2 now) continuing to tinker with my squat- I had a good 6-9 months of panicked lifting because I was crooked- and my left hip was diving further than my right hip. And I felt like in dance- everything I did was crooked. I had days where I felt like Natilie Portman in Black Swan- like complete mental breaks on what I LOOKED like- because literally the only thing I could see in the mirror or in the videos was the flaw. It was extreme.
Isn't it? But I guess that's why we keep coming back to it, working harder at it than before.I think we get incredibly mental/in our heads about lifting because it gets SO technical when you get up there- and EVERY little adjustment can make or break a squat.
Speaking of cueing, I spent some time watching Rip's Starting Strength tutorials on the Squat last night around 10pm. (Heck if Alan Thrall can retool his squat with a SS coach, so can I.) After watching the whole series 3x again, I wanted to leave the house and go squat -- the low bar started to make sense -- like I could abandoned my safety blanket high bar squat. I'll have to check out the Juggernaut tutorial. CWS is an awesome squatter.I finally got a chance to watch-
I agree you feel very rushed- and you aren't getting internal bracing with your air- and locking down your trunk.
Also- a cue that I picked up from Juggernaut training is keeping the knees "forward" - When you come back up you see the knee shift back just a little- and it helped smooth out my trajectory up/down thinking about once they are bent- and the come forward- they stay there- they don't go back- helps my hips from shooting out the back and loosing energy from my legs and wind up good morninging said squat.
I'll post some video from this morning's squat session learning lower bar. I think I am on the right track now. The reps are still too deep and a bit rushed, but the general outline is there, I just need to color in the rest of the details and not fall into the high bar/crappish low bar patterns that I've done a thousands times before.It's not ad bad as you think I promise.
And thank you @JoRocka for your kind words and advise.
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lol- aren't we all LMAO.nakedraygun wrote: »Okay, but 'm still old(ish) lol.
Nothing can be done for that- but moving keeps you healthy. nothing new here.
2 prong approach.So what did you do? Was it mobility?
I went to physical therapy- I started doing a lot of single leg work.
I brought an INSANE amount of attention to my foot placement (in EVERYTHING- and I mean EVERYTHING) even just standing still I have a tendency to place one foot slightly in front of the other.
I use the lines on the dance floor to constantly correct my one foot that rests 1/2 inch behind the other. I draw lines using chalk on the gym floor to confirm I'm even when I squat.
So for me I was hyper attention to the imbalance. working squat sessions thoroughly and thoughtfully- if I rushed anything- it was bench or deads. never squats. I did squat centric programs on purpose.
yep- I think honestly anyone whose serious about lifting has spells of technical "melt downs" and "reassessments" - we love it to much to ever give it up- so yep- working harder and the self degradation only spurs us to get better.Isn't it? But I guess that's why we keep coming back to it, working harder at it than before.Speaking of cueing, I spent some time watching Rip's Starting Strength tutorials on the Squat last night around 10pm. (Heck if Alan Thrall can retool his squat with a SS coach, so can I.) After watching the whole series 3x again, I wanted to leave the house and go squat -- the low bar started to make sense -- like I could abandoned my safety blanket high bar squat. I'll have to check out the Juggernaut tutorial. CWS is an awesome squatter.
I didn't pick that up from a tutorial- it was a technical evaluation of how Marisa(?) improved her squat SUBSTANTIALLY- 50-75 pounds between meets I think. I'll find it- It was very helpful for me. They did one with Meg squats also recently- I really like THOSE types of reviews more- because they are addressing actual problems in competitive lifters- not "this is how you do this"
we all know "this is how you do this" but watching them trouble shoot real lifters is WAY more helpful it seems for me as I am tweaking very nit picky things.
No problem- we are all there- been there or going there. you are not alone LOLI'll post some video from this morning's squat session learning lower bar. I think I am on the right track now. The reps are still too deep and a bit rushed, but the general outline is there, I just need to color in the rest of the details and not fall into the high bar/crappish low bar patterns that I've done a thousands times before.
And thank you @JoRocka for your kind words and advise.
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Austin is a extremely intelligent coach and strong AF lifter.nakedraygun wrote: »Speaking of cueing, I spent some time watching Rip's Starting Strength tutorials on the Squat last night around 10pm. (Heck if Alan Thrall can retool his squat with a SS coach, so can I.) After watching the whole series 3x again, I wanted to leave the house and go squat -- the low bar started to make sense -- like I could abandoned my safety blanket high bar squat. I'll have to check out the Juggernaut tutorial. CWS is an awesome squatter.
He's has taken time to help me as well in the past month or so. I'm able to low bar squat finally and I've added a good amount of weight on the bar since following his advice.
Jordan his partner in crime just pulled 701. I think he weighed out *just under 210* the other day.
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Speaking of cueing, I spent some time watching Rip's Starting Strength tutorials on the Squat last night around 10pm. (Heck if Alan Thrall can retool his squat with a SS coach, so can I.) After watching the whole series 3x again, I wanted to leave the house and go squat -- the low bar started to make sense -- like I could abandoned my safety blanket high bar squat. I'll have to check out the Juggernaut tutorial. CWS is an awesome squatter.
I will stand by watching Alan thrall! I've been watching all of his videos on deadlift set ups and low bar squats(I was purely high bar) and things have just been clicking. Going for my second PR in 2 weeks. Nothing substantial but after being stuck for so long any progress is awesome.
It definitely feels weird at first, but if you're feeling like things just aren't clicking it could definitely be worth a try. We all hit those mental blocks and start questioning if it's worth it. Those moments just test how hard were really willing to work.
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Well here we go. Looks terrible I know. But it's still a 20lb PR since starting 5/3/1 3 months ago.5 -
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I can't see videos all of a sudden. What the ???0
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not as bad as you thought (or I was expecting) I was more distracted by how effing quiet the gym there is!!! they don't have any music playing?0 -
not as bad as you thought (or I was expecting) I was more distracted by how effing quiet the gym there is!!! they don't have any music playing?
I think Rage is playing, they turn it down pretty low in day time when all the geezers my age and above come in. I plug in my Bluetooth regardless because they usually play vanilla radio playlist chit.0 -
not as bad as you thought (or I was expecting) I was more distracted by how effing quiet the gym there is!!! they don't have any music playing?
I think Rage is playing, they turn it down pretty low in day time when all the geezers my age and above come in. I plug in my Bluetooth regardless because they usually play vanilla radio playlist chit.
LOL. In my gym, we have a stereo where we can plug in our own MP3 players or IPods or whatever. I was there 2nd last night, but the guy before me wasn't playing anything, so I put mine on. I just have an old Zen MP3 player, so no playlists - so I had it on shuffle. There's a mix of stuff - Disturbed, Black Sabbath, Lady Gaga, Christina Perri, and others. For whatever reason, it kept playing Lady Gaga every other song (or so it seemed). After a while a few other people showed up, but my player kept playing Gaga. I laughed it off the first two times and just went over and skipped forward. The third time, I called in the bullpen. Had I not been deadlifting, I might have just used my earbuds from the beginning. Alas, no.1 -
not as bad as you thought (or I was expecting) I was more distracted by how effing quiet the gym there is!!! they don't have any music playing?
I think Rage is playing, they turn it down pretty low in day time when all the geezers my age and above come in. I plug in my Bluetooth regardless because they usually play vanilla radio playlist chit.
LOL. In my gym, we have a stereo where we can plug in our own MP3 players or IPods or whatever. I was there 2nd last night, but the guy before me wasn't playing anything, so I put mine on. I just have an old Zen MP3 player, so no playlists - so I had it on shuffle. There's a mix of stuff - Disturbed, Black Sabbath, Lady Gaga, Christina Perri, and others. For whatever reason, it kept playing Lady Gaga every other song (or so it seemed). After a while a few other people showed up, but my player kept playing Gaga. I laughed it off the first two times and just went over and skipped forward. The third time, I called in the bullpen. Had I not been deadlifting, I might have just used my earbuds from the beginning. Alas, no.
Hahaha...Gaga taking over.
There really is only two other gyms in my area. One is PL which is only open a couple hours at night and the other is PL/SM/CF and is so crammed it almost doubles training time.0
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