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Hi again, Jason Fung, intermittent fasting and "The Obesity Code". He has numerous videos on YouTube and his website to boot.2
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Again, Jason Fung. Fewer calories is failed science perpetuated by ignorance and greed. Doomed to fail. Think biggest loser. They always gain it back
The contestants on Biggest Loser gain the weight back because they aren't taught how to make sustainable changes that last. If intermittent fasting works for you, that's because you're still eating fewer calories. Not a failed science.6 -
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No, it really is failed science. Hundred plus years of research to prove it too.0
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pushy huh2
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You are confusing caloric restriction with fasting.0
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Educate yourself. Google Dr Jason Fung.1
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Don't need to! Dr Fung claims you can cure diabetes. Hogwash.2
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The physiological effects of fasting and a that of caloric restriction is verifiably different. I could go on and on. But I would rather you folks who stand upon the "pulpit" of caloric restriction as primary, CRAP, do you due diligence and look at the science. This do it as well as many others present and past are spot on.1
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You are confusing caloric restriction with fasting.
nope,Im not confusing anything. most people when they fast eat less,hence caloric deficit. if you fasted for 24 hrs with no food,youd still be in a deficit,although I am sure there are some who could eat in maintenance or a surplus during a fast(depending on the type). and fung is a quack2 -
Not eating is fasting. That isn't caloric reduction. That is not eating. The net effect may or may not be a reduction in total caloric intake upon the cease fast.0
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Not eating is fasting. That isn't caloric reduction. That is not eating. The net effect may or may not be a reduction in total caloric intake upon the cease fast.
There are many types of fasting,you need to do some research. someone above mentioned the types of fasting.fasting means no eating for a period of time(you got that). I dont eat for 16 hrs and then I eat in an 8 hr window,or 18:6(18hrs/6hr window). so I am still fasting and I am still in a caloric deficit because I make sure I get my calories I need in those windows of time.
if you did the type of fasting where you dont eat for 24 hrs and then eat the next day and repeat,you can make sure doing so that you are still in a caloric deficit or not. I said that its possible a person could eat maintenance calories or even a surplus in that window of time. but for most of us who fast we are still in a deficit.3 -
Touché, but it isn't the reduction of calories that is the mechanism of weight lose when fasting. It the hormonal shift of insulin in repsonse to depleted glycogen stores that ultimate precipitates the use fat as the energy source in the absence of sugar. It isn't the restriction of calories. Numerous studies will and do support this as well. At excess caloric intake, and fasting still results in weight lose, to say that it isn't the reduction of calories that is the primary mechanism.0
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Again, Jason Fung. Fewer calories is failed science perpetuated by ignorance and greed. Doomed to fail. Think biggest loser. They always gain it back
You do understand that fasting means taking in no calories during a certain time frame, which is just one way of eating fewer calories overall. So Jason Fung condemns eating fewer calories and promotes a method that causes people to eat fewer calories.11 -
Touché, but it isn't the reduction of calories that is the mechanism of weight lose when fasting. It the hormonal shift of insulin in repsonse to depleted glycogen stores that ultimate precipitates the use fat as the energy source in the absence of sugar. It isn't the restriction of calories. Numerous studies will and do support this as well. At excess caloric intake, and fasting still results in weight lose, to say that it isn't the reduction of calories that is the primary mechanism.
Let's say in a 24 hour period my body needs 2,500 calories. If I eat once per day and I eat 3,000 calories what would happen long term? You are saying that eating an extra 500 calories won't matter because I didn't eat for 23 hours. Where do the extra 500 calories go?9 -
Again, there are numerous physiological responses that take place and are necessarily paramount for the burning of fat and the sparing of other bodily tissues that occur when fasting. It isn't the reduction of calories that spurs this adaptive response either.1
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