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What are your unpopular opinions about health / fitness?
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Festivus came early this year:
1. Peer-reviewed publications do not equate to scientific fact.
2. Public policy is rarely based upon science – e.g. food pyramid, low-fat diet, cholesterol, added sugar, etc.
3. GMO, organic, healthy, fast, junk, etc. are nothing more than marketing terms used to disparage competitive products/promote your products.
4. Medicine does not equate to science fact. Much of medicine is based on risk mitigation and not reproducible - that a protocol worked on a previous patient.
5. Any exercise is better than sitting on a couch. If your movement is elliptical - then enjoy your ellipsing.
6. (Insert offence here)-shaming is hyperbolic and indicative of how good your life is. If this is the worst thing that happens to you, then you have a pretty good life. If you have the ability to vent on an internet forum - you have a damn good life.
7. Much of the solutions posed only address symptoms and do not attempt to investigate or solve root cause.
8. Genetics plays a very small factor in weight management and this is largely behavioral.
9. Harder =/= excuse.
10. Beer is a just reward after a run/swim/bike. It is organic, paleo, chocked full of nutrition, and potentially gluten free. It is the pinnacle of human endeavor.
I gave you a "Like" until I read #10, whereupon I changed it to an "Awesome."9 -
Dairy is bad for your health and so is alcohol. Oooo instant unpopularity
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Dairy is bad for your health and so is alcohol. Oooo instant unpopularity
Why is dairy bad for your health if you have no allergies or digestive issues?
eta: And really, that's pretty marginally unpopular - you can still be one of the in-crowd as long as you don't recommend ACV for weight-loss
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lostinwebspace wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »If McDonalds sells it... It's fast food... that's the definition of fast food..
Happy Meal Toys? :P
But the Egg McMuffin....1 -
Which brings me to my opinion to contribute to this thread: Context and dosage are very important and relevant concepts which are often ignored in favor of binary thinking.
I find binary thinking to be a problem across a lot of issues- including fitness and nutrition. So many issues are complex and multi-faceted, but it is way easier to draw Disney-like comparisons of good vs. evil, right vs. wrong then entertain the idea that the truth is likely somewhere in between, especially when dealing with individual humans. And context is critical.8 -
Dairy is bad for your health and so is alcohol. Oooo instant unpopularity
I probably agree with this. Not in the sense that it's BAD, bad, but no, humans do not have a physiological need for milk produced for baby cows, and treating it as if it's a required food group is nonsense.
I'm one of those crazy people that believes the dairy industry is largely to blame for the early development of our girls. I'll happily don my tin foil hat, now.20 -
kenyonhaff wrote: »lostinwebspace wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »If McDonalds sells it... It's fast food... that's the definition of fast food..
Happy Meal Toys? :P
But the Egg McMuffin....
I can't believe I'm saying this, and it's a sad personal insight, but since I was diagnosed with celiac over seven years ago and had to stop erating at most fast food places, I really, REALLY miss McD breakfast sandwiches on the way to work
eta: And there's an unpopular opinion for you...7 -
JeepHair77 wrote: »Dairy is bad for your health and so is alcohol. Oooo instant unpopularity
I probably agree with this. Not in the sense that it's BAD, bad, but no, humans do not have a physiological need for milk produced for baby cows, and treating it as if it's a required food group is nonsense.
I'm one of those crazy people that believes the dairy industry is largely to blame for the early development of our girls. I'll happily don my tin foil hat, now.
I tend to agree that unfermented milk products aren't good for adults.0 -
janejellyroll wrote: »I'd call hamburgers from McDonald's "garbage" in that their taste is vastly inferior to the burgers I make myself or get at local, non chain restaurants.
In the context of that post, it didn't seem to be about taste. The statement was made that the individual's body wouldn't function properly on hamburgers. Given that everybody has different tastes, I think blanket statements about whole types of food being "garbage" don't make much sense. A McDonald's hamburger isn't for me or for you, that's fine. But many people do genuinely enjoy them.
Yeah. To be clearer, I wasn't talking about taste, but sodium and fat and what other fillers might be in there. And I was thinking about McD's, Jack in the Box, Burger King, etc. Even my kids won't eat burgers from those places, but they are fine with Five Guys and In and Out. Go figure.
The burgers I make for my family once in a while, with grass fed beef, are probably reasonably healthy, but I still don't want to eat them. But that's my own problem, I guess.
I can make, and do eat, healthy pizza and tacos, but I'm not going to Taco Hell or even Del Taco to eat one.
I over generalized, but I do still consider the big mac to be basically non nutritional. Sure, we can pull out some nutrients it might have, but they come at a huge price for me -- a price I'm not willing to pay any more.
I knew my opinion was unpopular, but I didn't realize HOW unpopular! Lol And no judging if you eat a Big Mac every week or if your go to meal is a hamburger. If it fits in your plan, go for it. I just know it doesn't fit in my 1200 a day deficit or 1600 a day maintenance. And even if I could work out enough to pay for the calories, a hamburger doesn't fuel that work out. For me.
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sunfastrose wrote: »My unpopular opinion (or probably more like a pet peeve): The people who post about how their bodies are "rejecting bad foods" (or similar phrases about having extreme reactions to certain foods) are overexaggerating. "Oh - my body is just so EVOLVED now that I can't even look at a Twinkie"
My opinion (maybe unpopular, maybe not), they are humble bragging, or trying to, and likely imagining it.
Tastes change, but you don't become intolerant to all non nutrient dense foods, and frankly that wouldn't be desirable, IMO, and would be a sign of a health issue.19 -
stanmann571 wrote: »JeepHair77 wrote: »Dairy is bad for your health and so is alcohol. Oooo instant unpopularity
I probably agree with this. Not in the sense that it's BAD, bad, but no, humans do not have a physiological need for milk produced for baby cows, and treating it as if it's a required food group is nonsense.
I'm one of those crazy people that believes the dairy industry is largely to blame for the early development of our girls. I'll happily don my tin foil hat, now.
I tend to agree that unfermented milk products aren't good for adults.
I like milk products, but believe that is important to choose products from pasture-fed cows over conventional grain-fed cows. A lot of the issues with dairy are due to what farmers feed the cows and the things they inject them with to keep them healthy because of their poor diet and living conditions.5 -
Dairy is bad for your health and so is alcohol. Oooo instant unpopularity
I think dairy is good for my health and alcohol is bad for my health but can be neutral for most people.
On the other hand, I don't like or not like people based on their opinions on such things, so this does not affect your popularity with me.5 -
CorneliusPhoton wrote: »The only foods I am seeing as garbage food lately are some of the gluten-free replacements for regular foods that I have in the house. My gluten-free bread is seriously garbage. It doesn't taste good and has little nutritional merit. I see it as an empty filler and have no reason to eat it anymore. Same goes for gluten-free burger buns - they are garbage PLUS they fall apart, making them useless. I am so pissed at gluten free bread today! lol. Thanks for letting me vent. I need to cleanse my pantry of this crap and just eat my burgers in a lettuce wrap and/or with a knife and fork. Or stop being lazy and make some good GF bread.
I made a really nice GF lasagna last week using zucchini strips for the noodle layers. Much better than the rice noodles (which, in my mind are nutritional zeros on top of being hard to handle when they stick together).
I have been seeing it reported a lot lately that people who are maintaining GF pantries are showing higher levels of arsenic in their blood due to so much more rice in their diet. This may be part of my issue with my ricefoods.
I hear you. I have one loaf of GF bread in the freezer, and I have a slice every once in a while, but totally not worth it. I also have just given up. It makes my family mad and my husband calls me a "brat" because I don't want to get GF wraps to go with their yummy wheat ones. I'm over it. Get over it yourself. I'm sorry if my not eating bread products bothers you so much.
I also share your concern with arsenic, so I've pulled way back on my rice consumption.
I made "pasta" one night with zucchini strips, and my youngest walked by, looked in the pan and said, "Mother, those are not noodles!" Lol
Celiac Awareness posted a short video of things people with Celiac would like to tell people. One of them was, "Just because that's gluten free, doesn't mean I want to eat it!" I need that on a card I can distribute to people (especially my well-intentioned husband and mother.)
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Because of the way the body's bicarbonate buffer system works, the acidity that dairy causes can cause bone loss. I don't think it's a big issue for people who do weight training but if you look up the statistics for the countries with the highest dairy consumption they also lead with bone loss. BUT it's big business like many things are and so the push toward less toxic milks has been done mostly by the fitness community and is why almond, soy, and rice milk is much more available now. Animal protein is just hard on the body all together especially the kidneys and increases the risk of cancer for the same reason "acidity".2 -
"Heavy" is relative. You may joke about that dude grunting while curling 40's but someone else is rolling their eyes at you for half squatting 3 plates.
Crossfitters need to stay out of traditional gyms. Running a huge circuit or trying to do your WOD's during prime time should get you the ban-hammer.
Most people I see at the gym wouldn't know what "progressive overload" meant if it dropped a plate on their head.13 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »My unpopular opinion is that calorie counting is a temporary learning tool, not a "lifestyle." It's like training wheels on a bike...they can get you comfortable, but eventually one should just be able to ride.
I think that's great for people whose bodies tell them "ok, enough". For some of us, a lifetime of failing at intuitive eating suggests that we're going to need those training wheels for a very, very long time. Being off by even 100-200 calories a day can have disasterous long-term effects. I'm not taking issue with your opinion here, I'm sure you're right. I personally apparently can't hold balance on a bicycle, weight-wise, though.
Disastrous long-term effects? Only if you ignore the slow creep of weight gain, in which case it would be the ignoring that was disastrous. Don't ignore the signs and it's easy enough to correct.2 -
Because of the way the body's bicarbonate buffer system works, the acidity that dairy causes can cause bone loss. I don't think it's a big issue for people who do weight training but if you look up the statistics for the countries with the highest dairy consumption they also lead with bone loss. BUT it's big business like many things are and so the push toward less toxic milks has been done mostly by the fitness community and is why almond, soy, and rice milk is much more available now. Animal protein is just hard on the body all together especially the kidneys and increases the risk of cancer for the same reason "acidity".
Well, this is more than an "unpopular opinion", it's not true. I will leave it to someone else to get into the science details, but your assertions fly in the face of almost all currently accepted, peer-reviewed research. If you're going to push a plant-based diet, you need to come up with more valid reasons for doing so.13 -
Because of the way the body's bicarbonate buffer system works, the acidity that dairy causes can cause bone loss. I don't think it's a big issue for people who do weight training but if you look up the statistics for the countries with the highest dairy consumption they also lead with bone loss. BUT it's big business like many things are and so the push toward less toxic milks has been done mostly by the fitness community and is why almond, soy, and rice milk is much more available now. Animal protein is just hard on the body all together especially the kidneys and increases the risk of cancer for the same reason "acidity".
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22081694
Recently the lay press has claimed a hypothetical association among dairy product consumption, generation of dietary acid, and harm to human health. This theoretical association is based on the idea that the protein and phosphate in milk and dairy products make them acid-producing foods, which cause our bodies to become acidified, promoting diseases of modern civilization. Some authors have suggested that dairy products are not helpful and perhaps detrimental to bone health because higher osteoporotic fracture incidence is observed in countries with higher dairy product consumption. However, scientific evidence does not support any of these claims. Milk and dairy products neither produce acid upon metabolism nor cause metabolic acidosis, and systemic pH is not influenced by diet. Observations of higher dairy product intake in countries with prevalent osteoporosis do not hold when urban environments are compared, likely due to physical labor in rural locations. Milk and other dairy products continue to be a good source of dietary protein and other nutrients. Key teaching points: Measurement of an acidic pH urine does not reflect metabolic acidosis or an adverse health condition. The modern diet, and dairy product consumption, does not make the body acidic. Alkaline diets alter urine pH but do not change systemic pH. Net acid excretion is not an important influence of calcium metabolism. Milk is not acid producing. Dietary phosphate does not have a negative impact on calcium metabolism, which is contrary to the acid-ash hypothesis.28 -
Festivus came early this year:
1. Peer-reviewed publications do not equate to scientific fact.
2. Public policy is rarely based upon science – e.g. food pyramid, low-fat diet, cholesterol, added sugar, etc.
3. GMO, organic, healthy, fast, junk, etc. are nothing more than marketing terms used to disparage competitive products/promote your products.
4. Medicine does not equate to science fact. Much of medicine is based on risk mitigation and not reproducible - that a protocol worked on a previous patient.
5. Any exercise is better than sitting on a couch. If your movement is elliptical - then enjoy your ellipsing.
6. (Insert offence here)-shaming is hyperbolic and indicative of how good your life is. If this is the worst thing that happens to you, then you have a pretty good life. If you have the ability to vent on an internet forum - you have a damn good life.
7. Much of the solutions posed only address symptoms and do not attempt to investigate or solve root cause.
8. Genetics plays a very small factor in weight management and this is largely behavioral.
9. Harder =/= excuse.
10. Beer is a just reward after a run/swim/bike. It is organic, paleo, chocked full of nutrition, and potentially gluten free. It is the pinnacle of human endeavor.
I gave you a "Like" until I read #10, whereupon I changed it to an "Awesome."
LOL
And I agreed with everything until I got to #10, where we come to my extremely unpopular opinion: all alcohol is pretty much a 'meh' or worse for drinking unless doctored to the point the alcohol basically vanishes (except beer, which rates a 'yuck' regardless). However, it (even beer) is brilliant for cooking.
Can't make a good soft pretzel or a proper beef stew without a nice, strong beer.
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Celiac Awareness posted a short video of things people with Celiac would like to tell people. One of them was, "Just because that's gluten free, doesn't mean I want to eat it!" I need that on a card I can distribute to people (especially my well-intentioned husband and mother.)
AMEN!!1
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