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What are your unpopular opinions about health / fitness?
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I genuinely think a size 10, or 8-12, is usually *perfect* on a taller girl. Meanwhile most of my female friends strive for size 2 or 4, whether they are currently a size 6 or 28 doesn't seem to matter to them.7
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That "every body's different".
Sure, it might be the case for tastes and preferences, but when it comes to how a body actually works, its largely horseshit. One body doesn't magically process something completely differently to someone else's (barring medical issues, alleges, intolerance etc). Otherwise medicine wouldn't work the way it does. By and large, bodies work the same way. The minor differences aren't enough to make a difference.10 -
Chef_Barbell wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »If anything, I'm sure this thread has been cathartic for many people. It feels good to get stuff off your chest
Unless of course you're bench pressing, in which case it's a waste of time. :laugh:
Bench pressing/weight lifting talk equals this for me. I speed/skim read those posts.
MFP Blasphemy, i know
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My unpopular opinions. Yeah, I know they are unpopular. LOL I'm not debating them.
I don't think many can achieve weight loss goals without a healthy diet. And I am pretty sure maintenance is extremely hard if changes have not been made. I doubt there are many living in a newly slim body for many years who just ate a few hundred calories less of everything per day - they are a minority, IMO.
I think counting exact calories can be a waste of time. Health, daily living, and your food choices are going to affect your caloric needs by a lot. I've lost, maintained and gained all at the same caloric intake. Calculating a deficit and eating exactly that is no guarantee of weight loss.
I think My Plate and the food pyramid is based on very little scientific theory and should be dumped.
I think a majority of people would see their health improve, and not decline, if they eliminated refined carbs and added sugars.
I think people with metabolic disease (T2D, PCOS, NAFLD, CAD), or at risk of metabolic disease, would benefit by switching to a LCHF diet. Unfortunately, this now appears to be the majority of North Americans.
I think fat and salt restrictions for the vast majority of people are pointless and may be unhealthy.
I think some exercise is great, but many end up paying for too much exercise as they get older. Competitive sports are fun but not many get through that without lingering injuries as they age.
I think there is something in refined carbs and sugars that makes them addictive-like for many people, and I find it annoying when their experiences are "poo-poo'ed" as not real, poor will power, or just a mental/behavioral thing.
I think diet plays a much greater part in people's health than most believe, and I think it's hard for people to believe that until their own health takes a decline. I think it is probably wise to avoid man-made ingredients and some sweeteners, and I think orgaincs, heirloom, and free range foods are better for you.
I think large parts of paleo and primal diets make a lot of sense.
I think if you need to eat every 2-3 hours, you are eating the wrong foods.
I think a carnivorous diet can be very healthy.
I think the diets recommended by most diabetic associations are shockingly bad for most diabetics.
I think BPC tastes really good.Christine_72 wrote: »If anything, I'm sure this thread has been cathartic for many people. It feels good to get stuff off your chest
Yeah, that felt good.
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Alatariel75 wrote: »That "every body's different".
Sure, it might be the case for tastes and preferences, but when it comes to how a body actually works, its largely horseshit. One body doesn't magically process something completely differently to someone else's (barring medical issues, alleges, intolerance etc). Otherwise medicine wouldn't work the way it does. By and large, bodies work the same way. The minor differences aren't enough to make a difference.
Lyle said it best: http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/you-are-not-different.html/5 -
WayTooHonest wrote: »
Untrue. I've trained many menopausal women with difficulty losing weight on their own, but with proper training it can happen. They may have to work MUCH HARDER than the average person, but it's not impossible to successfully do it.
A menopausal women who cannot lose weight, will not successfully recomp.
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It's the much harder part no one likes.
But only some women report finding weight loss harder during menopause (I didn't for one, and a couple of others have commented similarly on this thread).
My intention is not to discount your or others' lived experience, though: Menopause (or aging, in some other respect) may well be a factor. But, since it's not universally a problem for all women in menopause, it makes me think there must be some other relevant factor(s) as well, though I have no idea what.
I'm perimenopausal and it's harder to lose weight now but I don't blame my stage of life but my far less active lifestyle.5 -
janejellyroll wrote: »GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »exercising to lose weight is dumb. Especially spending time on a treadmill to justify a candy bar.
I'm a very short older woman. If I didn't exercise on my treadmill, I'd have the paltry caloric allowance of 1200 calories to create a 150 calorie deficit since my maintenance for being sedentary is 1,350 calories.
I don't want to eat like a toddler.
Can't say enough how awesomely true for me this is.
My (maybe) unpopular opinion:
Maybe you can eat crap food (hamburgers, soda, ice cream (weep a little), candy bars, milk shakes) and make it all fit into your calories for the day, but food is fuel for me, and my body doesn't function properly when I feed it garbage. Good for you if you can make it work. But I actually doubt even you (whoever you are) can make that work for a lifetime of health.
A hamburger is bread, meat, and maybe some toppings. A body can easily use bread and meat as fuel. It's carbohydrates, protein, and fat -- three things I'm eating every day anyway. Also consider the micronutrients it contains like iron, B12, potassium, and B6 and I'm confused as to why anyone would think a hamburger is "garbage."
I'd call hamburgers from McDonald's "garbage" in that their taste is vastly inferior to the burgers I make myself or get at local, non chain restaurants.8 -
kshama2001 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »exercising to lose weight is dumb. Especially spending time on a treadmill to justify a candy bar.
I'm a very short older woman. If I didn't exercise on my treadmill, I'd have the paltry caloric allowance of 1200 calories to create a 150 calorie deficit since my maintenance for being sedentary is 1,350 calories.
I don't want to eat like a toddler.
Can't say enough how awesomely true for me this is.
My (maybe) unpopular opinion:
Maybe you can eat crap food (hamburgers, soda, ice cream (weep a little), candy bars, milk shakes) and make it all fit into your calories for the day, but food is fuel for me, and my body doesn't function properly when I feed it garbage. Good for you if you can make it work. But I actually doubt even you (whoever you are) can make that work for a lifetime of health.
A hamburger is bread, meat, and maybe some toppings. A body can easily use bread and meat as fuel. It's carbohydrates, protein, and fat -- three things I'm eating every day anyway. Also consider the micronutrients it contains like iron, B12, potassium, and B6 and I'm confused as to why anyone would think a hamburger is "garbage."
I'd call hamburgers from McDonald's "garbage" in that their taste is vastly inferior to the burgers I make myself or get at local, non chain restaurants.
I agree 100%....but every so often I want a Big Mac, and nothing else will do. Not often, mind you, but once in a great while.5 -
Probably going to get some flak for this... but jumping on an elliptical or a treadmill for an hour of steady state cardio is pretty much a complete waste of time
*shrug* I like it. I can control my speed exactly (including pushing myself and increasing my pace and doing fast/slow intervals) and I can tune out and listen to a podcast or book and not die in the heat or melt in the sun.13 -
Okay this we can agree on.
You don't need much mind/muscle connection to run. It's a natural movement that needs absolutely minimal training if any at all. You're thinking in terms of perfecting how people workout and many people just don't go that deep into it. Lots of great athletes do well with just reaction and pure talent and don't lift weights or anything else.
But not all people lift to make the mind/muscle connection a part of the goal. Some do it just to be active and keep basic strength up. Not all people are looking to increase mass nor have prominent body parts.The whole notion of 'functional strength' and that compound lifts are the be all and end all.
Newb's concentrating on only compound lifts and not doing enough to build whats most important...mind muscle connection.
Dedicating whole workouts to just abs....fkn LOL.
The notion that a calorie is a calorie, no if one causes me to hold more water then they're not equal when it comes to my goals...which leads me to another...
Water has just as much as a detrimental effect on the appearance of a physique than fat.
The stigma attached to PED's...yet it's socially acceptable to take something that literally disables you (alcohol). People wasting time chasing ever dwindling results when they could transform their life, yet they're too scared of the social stigma to do what should be seen as normal.
People being too reliant on what hey read rather than walking the walk. I will nearly always put more value on the advice of someone who's actually where I want to be, than some skinny fat MFPer clutching a science paper.
I don't do "accessory" lifts...waste of time IMO...what's the point they don't help me achieve my goals...notice how that can be turned around using your logic
Calories are a unit of measure and if a carb impacts "YOUR" goal that's one thing but for the majority of people it is a fact...and a calorie is just that...a calorie...but not sure that this is "unpopular" just debated a lot...
PED's are a personal choice IMO...if you want to pump your body full of those things go ahead...but they are just as dangerous when abused as any other drug...including alcohol...again not that unpopular just those who want to use them vs those who don't are sure they are right.
As for your last statement...are you saying that you wouldn't heed the advice of someone like oh..Arnold? he's not where you want to be...but probably was at some point...
regardless of if someone now doesn't "look" how you think they should be doesn't mean they don't have good advice...
I mean I know people who look good...and I wouldn't listen to their drivel ever...
If creating a stronger mind muscle connection isn't part of your goals when you lift then I don't really know what to say to you, regardless, isolation exercises will achieve just that. Note how I don't say omit compounds.
But that doesn't change the fact that a calorie is a calorie. A liter of gas is different than a liter of water, but they are both still a liter. WHAT they do for someone is entirely different.Why do you mention a carb? Could be anything that causes the water retention. My point is 500 calories of McDonalds will have a more detrimental effect on the appearance of my physique than 500 calories of chicken and rice, regardless if the macro's are the same. IDC that they will both have the same effect on fat levels, I care about water retention too.
I won't disagree here. The REAL issue with them is when KIDS are illegally taking them just to enhance their sports performance with no actual medical advice.The point I'm making about PED's has gone completely over your head. Yes I realise they can be just as dangerous as almost any drug, it's the fact there is a huge social stigma attached to taking them that I take issue with.
Well there are lots and lots of coaches out there who may not have played at a high level in a sport, but intricately know how to coach it. Look at coaching specialists like Hany Rambod. NEVER competed on the professional stage and I would hardly thought he was nothing more than a bro gym lifter based on his physique. You can actually figure out if someone really knows what they are talking about or not on here though.It isn't about someone looking how 'I think' they should look. People can look however they want but if you're going to be doling out lifting advice AND telling other people they're wrong then yes, look the part. I'm interested in someone who's put the practical work in and actually lived it rather than geeked out on the theory but not actually gone and put the work in. This forum is a meme at this point for that one. Also again...note how I said I nearly always, not always because of course there are exceptions to the rule but I didn't think I need to put that so clearly...
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I'm saying though...if you lift, if you do yoga, if you run, basically if you do anything physical with the need to control your body then mind muscle connection SHOULD be an aim. Isolation work will help you achieve that and I feel like on this forum it's seen as the devil and a waste of time...which is entirely wrong.
But how do you know that general forum member is wrong? There's a biochemical engineers on the forum who denounce how supplements actually work. They may not train like an athlete, but they damn sure know how chemistry actually works. And the reality is if they know how it works in the body, why wouldn't you believe them just because they haven't walked the walk?Yes I take your point about Hany, hence why I said in nearly all cases plus I'm not talking about coaches because let's face it Hany HAS walked the walk. His yardstick is champions he's produced, not his own physique. It's the general forum member with limited experience, telling a seasoned gym goer they're wrong using parroted information, that's what i have a problem with.
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You mention high end coaches, biochemical engineers...not really the point I'm making. The untrained newb, read a few articles, telling someone with a great physique that the way they got there was wrong. It's that lack of humility, the close mindedness. Sure they might not of got there 'optimally' but they're there and they've shown what surely we can both agree is the most important thing in this game...consistency and discipline and that should be respected, whether you choose to take their advice or not.
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SeriousCat wrote: »I'm against any position that encourages victim status - HAES, slow metabolism, FA...certainly not a popular opinion as the world has rejected any notion of personal responsibility and accountability and solely devoted to casting blame on something or someone else.
Really unpopular opinion, but also alcohol. No, you do not have a disease. No, you are not powerless over your problem. You are personally responsible for the CHOICES you make, so choosing to stop making bad ones.
CBT FTW!
http://www.baldwinresearch.com/alcoholism.cfm5 -
You do what you gotta do, but there are lots of bodybuilders out there who do everything they can to add mass to a body part and have trouble even with "help". Genetics does matter to an extent.stevencloser wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »
You don't need much mind/muscle connection to run. It's a natural movement that needs absolutely minimal training if any at all. You're thinking in terms of perfecting how people workout and many people just don't go that deep into it. Lots of great athletes do well with just reaction and pure talent and don't lift weights or anything else.
But not all people lift to make the mind/muscle connection a part of the goal. Some do it just to be active and keep basic strength up. Not all people are looking to increase mass nor have prominent body parts.The whole notion of 'functional strength' and that compound lifts are the be all and end all.
Newb's concentrating on only compound lifts and not doing enough to build whats most important...mind muscle connection.
Dedicating whole workouts to just abs....fkn LOL.
The notion that a calorie is a calorie, no if one causes me to hold more water then they're not equal when it comes to my goals...which leads me to another...
Water has just as much as a detrimental effect on the appearance of a physique than fat.
The stigma attached to PED's...yet it's socially acceptable to take something that literally disables you (alcohol). People wasting time chasing ever dwindling results when they could transform their life, yet they're too scared of the social stigma to do what should be seen as normal.
People being too reliant on what hey read rather than walking the walk. I will nearly always put more value on the advice of someone who's actually where I want to be, than some skinny fat MFPer clutching a science paper.
I don't do "accessory" lifts...waste of time IMO...what's the point they don't help me achieve my goals...notice how that can be turned around using your logic
Calories are a unit of measure and if a carb impacts "YOUR" goal that's one thing but for the majority of people it is a fact...and a calorie is just that...a calorie...but not sure that this is "unpopular" just debated a lot...
PED's are a personal choice IMO...if you want to pump your body full of those things go ahead...but they are just as dangerous when abused as any other drug...including alcohol...again not that unpopular just those who want to use them vs those who don't are sure they are right.
As for your last statement...are you saying that you wouldn't heed the advice of someone like oh..Arnold? he's not where you want to be...but probably was at some point...
regardless of if someone now doesn't "look" how you think they should be doesn't mean they don't have good advice...
I mean I know people who look good...and I wouldn't listen to their drivel ever...
If creating a stronger mind muscle connection isn't part of your goals when you lift then I don't really know what to say to you, regardless, isolation exercises will achieve just that. Note how I don't say omit compounds.
But that doesn't change the fact that a calorie is a calorie. A liter of gas is different than a liter of water, but they are both still a liter. WHAT they do for someone is entirely different.Why do you mention a carb? Could be anything that causes the water retention. My point is 500 calories of McDonalds will have a more detrimental effect on the appearance of my physique than 500 calories of chicken and rice, regardless if the macro's are the same. IDC that they will both have the same effect on fat levels, I care about water retention too.
I won't disagree here. The REAL issue with them is when KIDS are illegally taking them just to enhance their sports performance with no actual medical advice.The point I'm making about PED's has gone completely over your head. Yes I realise they can be just as dangerous as almost any drug, it's the fact there is a huge social stigma attached to taking them that I take issue with.
Well there are lots and lots of coaches out there who may not have played at a high level in a sport, but intricately know how to coach it. Look at coaching specialists like Hany Rambod. NEVER competed on the professional stage and I would hardly thought he was nothing more than a bro gym lifter based on his physique. You can actually figure out if someone really knows what they are talking about or not on here though.It isn't about someone looking how 'I think' they should look. People can look however they want but if you're going to be doling out lifting advice AND telling other people they're wrong then yes, look the part. I'm interested in someone who's put the practical work in and actually lived it rather than geeked out on the theory but not actually gone and put the work in. This forum is a meme at this point for that one. Also again...note how I said I nearly always, not always because of course there are exceptions to the rule but I didn't think I need to put that so clearly...
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I'm saying though...if you lift, if you do yoga, if you run, basically if you do anything physical with the need to control your body then mind muscle connection SHOULD be an aim. Isolation work will help you achieve that and I feel like on this forum it's seen as the devil and a waste of time...which is entirely wrong.
But how do you know that general forum member is wrong? There's a biochemical engineers on the forum who denounce how supplements actually work. They may not train like an athlete, but they damn sure know how chemistry actually works. And the reality is if they know how it works in the body, why wouldn't you believe them just because they haven't walked the walk?Yes I take your point about Hany, hence why I said in nearly all cases plus I'm not talking about coaches because let's face it Hany HAS walked the walk. His yardstick is champions he's produced, not his own physique. It's the general forum member with limited experience, telling a seasoned gym goer they're wrong using parroted information, that's what i have a problem with.
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And you're a trainer genuinely implying that the mind muscle connection is not very important for every movement? Every movement is a "natural movement". The primal movements being push, pull, squat, bend, lunge, twist and yes gait. Just because it's a "natural movement" doesn't mean that it doesn't need to be using the correct muscles to be done most efficiently to prevent injuries.
You learn using the correct muscles for a movement by doing the movement, not by using each of the involved muscles on its own.
Thanks bud, I wasn't the one that said that.
You're the one saying isolation exercises are important for the mind/muscle connection.
No, I'm the one saying that.
In fact what I originally said is I don't agree with the notion that compounds are the be all and end all and that I think isolation work is important.
From my own experience I spent my formative years buying into the compounds only meme. I've spent the last 2 years trying to bring my arms up as they'd become disproportionately small to my torso. Had I incorporated some isolation work in from the beginning I would of had a much more balanced physique. The amount of people I see that REALLY need to do some isolation work on rear delts...well I'd say most people in the gym do.
Isolation work is not the devil, it's necessary, your shoulders will thank you and that's one of my seemingly unpopular opinions!
Hahah I am in the same boat! Arms will not grow proportionaly, still working on that contraction, back and chest, no problem, bi's and sometimes tri's, majorrrrr struggle.
Might be from being and athlete and being more concerned with power and strength, never learned how to contract specific muscles until trying now when it's disproportionate. No clue though, still don't just think it's genetics though, I just feel like there's some mental piece I am missing.
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Probably going to get some flak for this... but jumping on an elliptical or a treadmill for an hour of steady state cardio is pretty much a complete waste of time
I don't know, going from barely being able to walk for 5 minute straight to running for an hour shows otherwise (and being able to lose at a calorie level that is maintenance for some is awesome and is worth the hour spent).13 -
My unpopular opinions about health and fitness? I think they're unpopular with different groups. A lot of them temper each other. As a result I at times can annoy almost everyone.
1. Nobody owes it to "society" to lose weight.
2. Being significantly overweight is probably impacting your life more than you think. It did me. And if you become disabled, it will greatly impact those around you. So think about that, about what it might mean to your loved ones if they have to take care of you at your current weight.
2. Taking care of your body is not the only important thing in life, or even the most important.
3. That doesn't make it unimportant, though.
3. Walking and housework really do burn calories.
4. (corollary to 3) You don't have to work out in a gym to become physically fit or strong.
5. It's all about the Calories, Baby.
6. If you lose weight slowly, so what? Time passes anyway.
7. GMOs are not going to make you fat. Neither are foods with long-sounding names. Unless you overeat them (same as anything else).
8. Sugar makes otherwise unpalatable food enjoyable. This can be a very good thing to try harder than others. Life isn't fair, get over it. If you truly want to control your weight, and are willing to put in the effort, you can.
9. The core message of nutrition and physical health has remained constant for more than a hundred years. Eat a variety of foods, don't overindulge, moderate sweets and other treats, and get regular physical activity. So you don't need any fancy diet plans or multilevel marketing schemes, or expensive food, or cleanses, or anything else that a two-bit huckster is trying to shill on you (even when that huckster is your cousin).
10. The day you try to sell me any MLM crap is the day our friendship is over. Capisce?
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stanmann571 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »
Well because it has no scientific proof that it is. It's an opinion of yours and that's not proof.I believe fast food is toxic and should only be eaten if last/only food on the planet. Very unpopular view here on MFP.
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Since the thread is asking for "unpopular opinions" nothing wrong with me expressing one of my "unpopular opinions." As for scientific proof, there is a lot of proof out there that fast food is "not good." So makes you go hmmmm.if it's not good, then what is it? What is the opposite of good, Elmo? Let's watch some Sesame Street and learn what "not good" means together.
it's also been proved that by eating just fast food you can do the following:
1. Lose weight
2. lower blood pressure
3. lower cholesterol numbers
4. meet required macros even surpass RDA Min.
All this from eating just fast food...sounds "good" to me.
The "not good" is the excess fast food...large sized this...large sized that.
No those things have not been proven at all. In fact the opposite has been proven. You're just pulling my leg. If you really believe that, well then, I guess ignorance is truly bliss. Enjoy your deep fried cancer sticks.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/teacher-who-ate-mcdonalds-90-6654329
Ahhhh the Mirror...best peer reviewed scientific journal on the planet. Wasn't this the issue that had Kate Middleton topless?
http://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-lose-weight-eating-only-mcdonalds-2015-10
Guess you didn't read the article.
Here's a more respectable journal
It's a business rag, not even a scientific journal. Besides, even if it us true this one man lost weight (#1 only) eating only McDonalds doesn't mean he did it eating only fast food as McDonalds sells non fast food ( i.e. Salads, carrot sticks, etc) as well as fast food. Secondly, a sample size of one is too small to be statistically significant. No actual scientific study can publish with n=1.
How is a burger from McDonalds fast food, but a salad from McDonalds isn't fast food?
How is a salad, carrot stick, apple slices fast food? I guess we have different definitions of fast food then.1 -
Well I was asked what carcinogens are in fast food and other stuff....but I reiterate...it is my opinion that fast food is toxic and should only be eaten if the last food on the planet. I guess I was right too about it being an unpopular opinion here on MFP so of course most of you are going to disagree. As I said before, enjoy your deep fried cancer sticks ( hint deep fried = creation of carcinogens) 2
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I think far too much importance in our culture is placed on "the why" one overeats instead of 'that' they overeat. I think it's a distraction from the problem, often involves a crafting of a rationale for overeating which is far grander than warrented, and is a stalling tactic from tackling the problem.
Like a toddler you can go down the "why" spiral to infinity and beyond, you can dig and dig and I just don't think you really get anywhere until you get back around to the actual problem - the fact that you eat too much too often - and then, if fixing it is really your aim, make the conscious choice to stop eating so much so often. All the "why's" are superfluous to this.
I also think rationales, the stories people tell themselves about themselves, function as a trap more than an insight, locking the people who crafted them into the story they've told themselves and then repeat the behavior over and over, cuz "that's how the story goes..."
I do think a lot of diet and fitness is mental, but mainly in that you got to get out of your head and stop bs-ing yourself and just do what needs to be done.
I don't think my opinion is popular because I think a lot of people are very attached to their stories that don't do anything for them except give them an out and hold them back.14 -
seltzermint555 wrote: »I genuinely think a size 10, or 8-12, is usually *perfect* on a taller girl. Meanwhile most of my female friends strive for size 2 or 4, whether they are currently a size 6 or 28 doesn't seem to matter to them.
you do understand that the size 8-10 today is totally dif than it was 15 years ago right?
and that by saying that 8-12 is "perfect" for taller girls shows that you really aren't in touch with being taller.
When I was a 12 I was considered over weight...now I am in line with my weight I am a size 6...5lbs down I am a size 4...
I think apparently people have gotten so used to fat being normal that it is seen as "perfect"13 -
My unpopular opinions. Yeah, I know they are unpopular. LOL I'm not debating them.
I don't think many can achieve weight loss goals without a healthy diet. And I am pretty sure maintenance is extremely hard if changes have not been made. I doubt there are many living in a newly slim body for many years who just ate a few hundred calories less of everything per day - they are a minority, IMO.
I think counting exact calories can be a waste of time. Health, daily living, and your food choices are going to affect your caloric needs by a lot. I've lost, maintained and gained all at the same caloric intake. Calculating a deficit and eating exactly that is no guarantee of weight loss.
I think My Plate and the food pyramid is based on very little scientific theory and should be dumped.
I think a majority of people would see their health improve, and not decline, if they eliminated refined carbs and added sugars.
I think people with metabolic disease (T2D, PCOS, NAFLD, CAD), or at risk of metabolic disease, would benefit by switching to a LCHF diet. Unfortunately, this now appears to be the majority of North Americans.
I think fat and salt restrictions for the vast majority of people are pointless and may be unhealthy.
I think some exercise is great, but many end up paying for too much exercise as they get older. Competitive sports are fun but not many get through that without lingering injuries as they age.
I think there is something in refined carbs and sugars that makes them addictive-like for many people, and I find it annoying when their experiences are "poo-poo'ed" as not real, poor will power, or just a mental/behavioral thing.
I think diet plays a much greater part in people's health than most believe, and I think it's hard for people to believe that until their own health takes a decline. I think it is probably wise to avoid man-made ingredients and some sweeteners, and I think orgaincs, heirloom, and free range foods are better for you.
I think large parts of paleo and primal diets make a lot of sense.
I think if you need to eat every 2-3 hours, you are eating the wrong foods.
I think a carnivorous diet can be very healthy.
I think the diets recommended by most diabetic associations are shockingly bad for most diabetics.
I think BPC tastes really good.Christine_72 wrote: »If anything, I'm sure this thread has been cathartic for many people. It feels good to get stuff off your chest
Yeah, that felt good.
things crossed out have been proven to be true on a scientific level...smh.4 -
stanmann571 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »
Well because it has no scientific proof that it is. It's an opinion of yours and that's not proof.I believe fast food is toxic and should only be eaten if last/only food on the planet. Very unpopular view here on MFP.
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Since the thread is asking for "unpopular opinions" nothing wrong with me expressing one of my "unpopular opinions." As for scientific proof, there is a lot of proof out there that fast food is "not good." So makes you go hmmmm.if it's not good, then what is it? What is the opposite of good, Elmo? Let's watch some Sesame Street and learn what "not good" means together.
it's also been proved that by eating just fast food you can do the following:
1. Lose weight
2. lower blood pressure
3. lower cholesterol numbers
4. meet required macros even surpass RDA Min.
All this from eating just fast food...sounds "good" to me.
The "not good" is the excess fast food...large sized this...large sized that.
No those things have not been proven at all. In fact the opposite has been proven. You're just pulling my leg. If you really believe that, well then, I guess ignorance is truly bliss. Enjoy your deep fried cancer sticks.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/teacher-who-ate-mcdonalds-90-6654329
Ahhhh the Mirror...best peer reviewed scientific journal on the planet. Wasn't this the issue that had Kate Middleton topless?
http://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-lose-weight-eating-only-mcdonalds-2015-10
Guess you didn't read the article.
Here's a more respectable journal
It's a business rag, not even a scientific journal. Besides, even if it us true this one man lost weight (#1 only) eating only McDonalds doesn't mean he did it eating only fast food as McDonalds sells non fast food ( i.e. Salads, carrot sticks, etc) as well as fast food. Secondly, a sample size of one is too small to be statistically significant. No actual scientific study can publish with n=1.
How is a burger from McDonalds fast food, but a salad from McDonalds isn't fast food?
How is a salad, carrot stick, apple slices fast food? I guess we have different definitions of fast food then.
Did it come from McDonalds, BK, Wendy's, Arby's, Hardees... It's fast food.8 -
My unpopular opinions. Yeah, I know they are unpopular. LOL I'm not debating them.
I don't think many can achieve weight loss goals without a healthy diet. And I am pretty sure maintenance is extremely hard if changes have not been made. I doubt there are many living in a newly slim body for many years who just ate a few hundred calories less of everything per day - they are a minority, IMO.
I think counting exact calories can be a waste of time. Health, daily living, and your food choices are going to affect your caloric needs by a lot. I've lost, maintained and gained all at the same caloric intake. Calculating a deficit and eating exactly that is no guarantee of weight loss.
I think My Plate and the food pyramid is based on very little scientific theory and should be dumped.
I think a majority of people would see their health improve, and not decline, if they eliminated refined carbs and added sugars.
I think people with metabolic disease (T2D, PCOS, NAFLD, CAD), or at risk of metabolic disease, would benefit by switching to a LCHF diet. Unfortunately, this now appears to be the majority of North Americans.
I think fat and salt restrictions for the vast majority of people are pointless and may be unhealthy.
I think some exercise is great, but many end up paying for too much exercise as they get older. Competitive sports are fun but not many get through that without lingering injuries as they age.
I think there is something in refined carbs and sugars that makes them addictive-like for many people, and I find it annoying when their experiences are "poo-poo'ed" as not real, poor will power, or just a mental/behavioral thing.
I think diet plays a much greater part in people's health than most believe, and I think it's hard for people to believe that until their own health takes a decline. I think it is probably wise to avoid man-made ingredients and some sweeteners, and I think orgaincs, heirloom, and free range foods are better for you.
I think large parts of paleo and primal diets make a lot of sense.
I think if you need to eat every 2-3 hours, you are eating the wrong foods.
I think a carnivorous diet can be very healthy.
I think the diets recommended by most diabetic associations are shockingly bad for most diabetics.
I think BPC tastes really good.Christine_72 wrote: »If anything, I'm sure this thread has been cathartic for many people. It feels good to get stuff off your chest
Yeah, that felt good.
things crossed out have been proven to be true on a scientific level...smh.
Did you mean false?2 -
seltzermint555 wrote: »I genuinely think a size 10, or 8-12, is usually *perfect* on a taller girl. Meanwhile most of my female friends strive for size 2 or 4, whether they are currently a size 6 or 28 doesn't seem to matter to them.
you do understand that the size 8-10 today is totally dif than it was 15 years ago right?
and that by saying that 8-12 is "perfect" for taller girls shows that you really aren't in touch with being taller.
When I was a 12 I was considered over weight...now I am in line with my weight I am a size 6...5lbs down I am a size 4...
I think apparently people have gotten so used to fat being normal that it is seen as "perfect"
Is this an industry standard measurement? Or wacky vanity sizing? Women's sizes are all over the place in measurement, to the extent that I literally have things marked "Small" to "Extra Large" in my closet that all fit correctly.
Young girls and women alike state "I wanna get in Size X" when in fact that's not any sort of standard nowadays. It's also the backward idea that we're suppose to alter our bodies to fit the clothes, rather than the clothes fit the body.
I'm all for weight loss when appropriate, not so keen on women letting self-worth to be determined by the size label on a pair of jeans.14 -
Well I was asked what carcinogens are in fast food and other stuff....but I reiterate...it is my opinion that fast food is toxic and should only be eaten if the last food on the planet. I guess I was right too about it being an unpopular opinion here on MFP so of course most of you are going to disagree. As I said before, enjoy your deep fried cancer sticks ( hint deep fried = creation of carcinogens)
"X is toxic" is not an opinion.7 -
stevencloser wrote: »Well I was asked what carcinogens are in fast food and other stuff....but I reiterate...it is my opinion that fast food is toxic and should only be eaten if the last food on the planet. I guess I was right too about it being an unpopular opinion here on MFP so of course most of you are going to disagree. As I said before, enjoy your deep fried cancer sticks ( hint deep fried = creation of carcinogens)
"X is toxic" is not an opinion.
It is an opinion... when it's false.2 -
Many people post pictures to show off their outlier bodies, and I think "Yeah.... You could definitely drop a couple pounds to fit into that 'magical' 18.5-24.9 BMI range." At the same time, I don't think people have to or should drop more weight just to fit into the range if they're happier and more mentally well off at their current weight and are fit otherwise. It's moreso that I often think people are kidding themselves when they say dropping more weight would make them look extremely gaunt and skinny. Perhaps they just feel that way and thus perceive themselves as such.
While it all boils down to CICO, I don't think ALL anecdotes should be totally pushed aside. Perhaps the science behind the tales have yet to be discovered/explained.
Those 300+ lb inspirational talkers who talk about their health while barely being able to breathe as they talk are not inspirational... at all:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_XuwM844bY 7 -
kshama2001 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »exercising to lose weight is dumb. Especially spending time on a treadmill to justify a candy bar.
I'm a very short older woman. If I didn't exercise on my treadmill, I'd have the paltry caloric allowance of 1200 calories to create a 150 calorie deficit since my maintenance for being sedentary is 1,350 calories.
I don't want to eat like a toddler.
Can't say enough how awesomely true for me this is.
My (maybe) unpopular opinion:
Maybe you can eat crap food (hamburgers, soda, ice cream (weep a little), candy bars, milk shakes) and make it all fit into your calories for the day, but food is fuel for me, and my body doesn't function properly when I feed it garbage. Good for you if you can make it work. But I actually doubt even you (whoever you are) can make that work for a lifetime of health.
A hamburger is bread, meat, and maybe some toppings. A body can easily use bread and meat as fuel. It's carbohydrates, protein, and fat -- three things I'm eating every day anyway. Also consider the micronutrients it contains like iron, B12, potassium, and B6 and I'm confused as to why anyone would think a hamburger is "garbage."
I'd call hamburgers from McDonald's "garbage" in that their taste is vastly inferior to the burgers I make myself or get at local, non chain restaurants.
I tend not to call food other people eat a derogatory term. It tends to make you look more superior than you actually are. That's my unpopular opinion. *shrug*12 -
I don't think this is an unpopular opinion, just a fact, but "fast food" is a category of restaurant, not of foods. Obviously the foods sold by "fast food" restaurants are quite varied, in some cases within a specific restaurant. Therefore, anything sold by a "fast food restaurant" = "fast food" and you can't really generalize about it (for example, many such foods are not fried).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_food and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fast_food_restaurant_chains
I often find it difficult to distinguish what is fast food vs. fast casual (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_casual_restaurant)
I seem to go to fast casual much more often (for a quick lunch to take back to work -- fast food I'd get on a rare occasion when on a road trip) because they are common around my office (even more so than fast food), and typically have more things I enjoy and that meet my needs, but you can't say the food is inherently different. Depends on what you get. Both are quite varied.5 -
I have several unpopular opinions, I think.
1. I believe that there can be value in READING and following formal diets for some people. I believe many of the knowledgeable people here *learned* from formal diets, whether they actually read/studied them or not. I personally learned a LOT from reading formal diet books. I believe that knowledge has helped me maintain +- for 16 years, including through menopause.
2. I believe there are junk foods. Though I don't like the term "empty calories".
3. I believe most folks would benefit (overall) from limiting added sugars and highly refined carbohydrates much more than the average person does.
4. I believe the research that suggests that peri-menopause/menopause leads to insulin resistance in some women. I believe that IR can make it more difficult for some menopausal women to lose weight. (I also believe the hormonal changes at menopause can change how women handle refined carbohydrates, with or without IR.)
5. I believe the distinction between "complex" and "simple" carbohydrates is fairly worthless.8 -
Oh, oh. Another one!
BMI needs to stop being used to measure an individual's health status! That's not how it is meant to be used. It's for use in population studies.5
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