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Carlos_421 wrote: »I brought in Panera bagels for my team this morning. As they entered the conference room for our team meeting, I enthusiastically encouraged each of them to take a bagel.
I'm such a jerk.
Side note: Only 2 out of 11 accepted and the rest went to the kitchen to go for grabs. I was not offended by the 9 people who refused a bagel. I guess bagel culture is not as strong as cake culture.
Wait...no cream cheese to go with those bagels?!? You truly are such a jerk. I would have enthusiastically beaten you about the head and shoulders with the nearest office chair.
Yay for bagel culture!
I can't believe you think so little of me. I provided two tubs of cream cheese.7 -
middlehaitch wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »middlehaitch wrote: »estherdragonbat wrote: »annaskiski wrote: »annaskiski wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »deannalfisher wrote: »oh how I would love to write my psych dissertation on cake culture in the workplace....haha!
Why not? Another theme would be how it intersects with the individualism of American culture...hence the primary defence being along the lines of "it's your choice to eat or not eat the cake" "just say no" etc. How does cake culture play out in societies that value conformity over individualism?
I'm not American. It intersects with my culture of being a human who has always, throughout history, shared food as social bonding.
May I ask, what you are then? Although many cultures have commonalities, there is no one 'human' culture.
Can you tell me of a human culture where sharing of food in times of celebration isn't a thing?
In China, the traditional food to celebrate a birthday are peaches and noodles, not cake.
But still food...........
Yes. Ok, I didn't want to go there but honestly, you are not using the term "culture" correctly. The definition of culture is the customs, practices and beliefs of a particular people or society. By definition, there can be no universal human "culture". So your point that all humans share food is merely pointing out a commonality between cultures. Sorry, but there it is.
Of course you didn't.
I don't expect you to understand. After all you are a layman so are not as sensitive to the misuse of technical terminology.
Something was niggling at me after reading this, and the search function helped my memory out a bit. My memory isn't as faulty as I sometimes think it is.
You've posted that you're retired from working for 20 years in the Air Force on space program stuff and also that you worked as a grants officer with unlimited authority with academia at some point.
I'm not sure where you are fitting in a claim to being an anthropologist now, or where the "cake culture" comes in either of these scenarios.
You mean the Space Race was a billion dollar effort to defend our cake culture? I thought the Apollo program was all about the Moon Pies.
I had an eclipse party for the last solar eclipse. Discovered that the only place in SE Wisconsin to find Moon Pies was Stop and Go stores (attached to BP gas stations). At least the Sun Chips were easier to find, but I did get enough Moon Pies for everyone who attended.
I've never had a moon pie.
ETA: Never mind, I just searched and it looks like a wagon wheel. I've had them. What kind of booze did you have?
Luna di Luna wine and Blue Moon beer.
I assume the post office misplaced my invitation.
There is still the housewarming coming up in a few weeks.
That would be fun. My passport is current, it may take me a while to drive there. Are Canadians allowed across the wall/border? :laugh:
ZOMG no Canadians.
Ok, we're done discussing cake. Lets discuss the brutality and viciousness of Canandians
yup we are brutally polite most of the time...well some Canadians are.
But are you cake pushers?
Only if we haven't yet tried the goodness from our west coast that is the Nanaimo bar...
And I was just posting this as @estherdragonbat posted. ......
Nanaimo Bars in BC.
If I tie some on my head in a waterproof bag, swim the Juan de Fuca Strait, hike the Olympic Mountains, then trek across country, can I come to the party too?
(Half English, half Scot, living in Canada=
Gentle demenor, brutally honest, with viscous tongue when needed)
Cheers, h.
@VintageFeline, just back from Edinburgh and the borders. I know the 2 alternate snowballs, had a Tunnocks for old times sake, what is the 3rd you speak of?
A friend needs to know. h
They're a cake. A really really delicious cake. This link is a good description, I did not know M&S did them, even for a while (this blog is dated 2013, I shall still look next time I'm in one just in case though!).
http://www.foodstufffinds.co.uk/2013/01/4-scottish-snowballs-marks-specncer-by.html
They look delicious! Pity I just had my birthday- Christmas is just around the corner- hooray- I will make one as a change from a Pavlova.
(Serious desert lover if you haven't guessed) I will have to make snowballs, the drink, to go with it.
Cheers, h.
Oh you make them individual sized. 1 snowball per person
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Before I started using MFP I honestly never realized that so many people have food on their mind all of the time.15
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Bry_Lander wrote: »Before I started using MFP I honestly never realized that so many people have food on their mind all of the time.
Maybe it just comes up a lot since this is a diet and fitness site?7 -
Yes, people coming to a board where people are discussing dieting, food, and fitness, and the subject of food comes up means that those people have food on their mind ALL the time.6
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Bry_Lander wrote: »Before I started using MFP I honestly never realized that so many people have food on their mind all of the time.
We don't, but when we come to a website where we are counting the calories in our food it is natural for food to be at the forefront of our minds.2 -
Bry_Lander wrote: »Before I started using MFP I honestly never realized that so many people have food on their mind all of the time.
right? psshh... and to think i used to only think about sex14 -
Bry_Lander wrote: »Before I started using MFP I honestly never realized that so many people have food on their mind all of the time.
Imagine! People who like food talking about food when the subject of food comes up! Madness.
The rest of the internet is about cats, which I'm also cool with.12 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »Before I started using MFP I honestly never realized that so many people have food on their mind all of the time.
Maybe it just comes up a lot since this is a diet and fitness site?
And a 500 calorie piece of cake is the perfect food for someone looking to eat a nutritional low calorie diet?11 -
Packerjohn wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »Before I started using MFP I honestly never realized that so many people have food on their mind all of the time.
Maybe it just comes up a lot since this is a diet and fitness site?
And a 500 calorie piece of cake is the perfect food for someone looking to eat a nutritional low calorie diet?
if it's carrot cake yes...with cream cheese frosting...
but no different than pizza...4 -
Packerjohn wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »Before I started using MFP I honestly never realized that so many people have food on their mind all of the time.
Maybe it just comes up a lot since this is a diet and fitness site?
And a 500 calorie piece of cake is the perfect food for someone looking to eat a nutritional low calorie diet?
if it's carrot cake yes...with cream cheese frosting...
but no different than pizza...
Agreed!
carrot cake! 0 -
Packerjohn wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »Before I started using MFP I honestly never realized that so many people have food on their mind all of the time.
Maybe it just comes up a lot since this is a diet and fitness site?
And a 500 calorie piece of cake is the perfect food for someone looking to eat a nutritional low calorie diet?
I'm currently losing. I could fit in a 500 calorie slice of cake once a week without impacting much of anything negatively. So what's your point? Not everyone is grossing 1200. In fact, few people should be so that cake should be no probs.7 -
VintageFeline wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »Before I started using MFP I honestly never realized that so many people have food on their mind all of the time.
Imagine! People who like food talking about food when the subject of food comes up! Madness.
The rest of the internet is about cats, which I'm also cool with.
Madness indeed, those rare times when the subject of food that people like comes up...like every day, all day
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Packerjohn wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »Before I started using MFP I honestly never realized that so many people have food on their mind all of the time.
Maybe it just comes up a lot since this is a diet and fitness site?
And a 500 calorie piece of cake is the perfect food for someone looking to eat a nutritional low calorie diet?
Depends. Low calorie compared to what. And what is the composition of the rest of said persons diet that day/week. Context and dose dude. Context and dose. It always amazes me how some people consistently struggle with this concept.3 -
Packerjohn wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »Before I started using MFP I honestly never realized that so many people have food on their mind all of the time.
Maybe it just comes up a lot since this is a diet and fitness site?
And a 500 calorie piece of cake is the perfect food for someone looking to eat a nutritional low calorie diet?
Depends. Low calorie compared to what. And what is the composition of the rest of said persons diet that day/week. Context and dose dude. Context and dose. It always amazes me how some people consistently struggle with this concept.
I think the problem is fat people don't deserve joy. Or at least they shouldn't dare find joy in food.19 -
Packerjohn wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »Before I started using MFP I honestly never realized that so many people have food on their mind all of the time.
Maybe it just comes up a lot since this is a diet and fitness site?
And a 500 calorie piece of cake is the perfect food for someone looking to eat a nutritional low calorie diet?
Were you here for the ten pages of debate where we beat to death the notion that people actually eat cake on a daily basis?
Clif's notes: It's hard to pin weight problems on "cake culture" when people only eat cake a few times per year.6 -
Bry_Lander wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »Before I started using MFP I honestly never realized that so many people have food on their mind all of the time.
Imagine! People who like food talking about food when the subject of food comes up! Madness.
The rest of the internet is about cats, which I'm also cool with.
Madness indeed, those rare times when the subject of food that people like comes up...like every day, all day
Every day? All day?
That's a lot of food talk...I'm not on MFP all day...or every day...
I think about aquariums about 1,000 times more than I think about food. True story.5 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »Before I started using MFP I honestly never realized that so many people have food on their mind all of the time.
Maybe it just comes up a lot since this is a diet and fitness site?
And a 500 calorie piece of cake is the perfect food for someone looking to eat a nutritional low calorie diet?
Were you here for the ten pages of debate where we beat to death the notion that people actually eat cake on a daily basis?
Clif's notes: It's hard to pin weight problems on "cake culture" when people only eat cake a few times per year.
If you think about cake, talk about cake, and post pics of cake every day, but only eat it a few times a year, are you actually part of some underground cake subculture? Any anthropologists available to clarify that?6 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »Before I started using MFP I honestly never realized that so many people have food on their mind all of the time.
Maybe it just comes up a lot since this is a diet and fitness site?
And a 500 calorie piece of cake is the perfect food for someone looking to eat a nutritional low calorie diet?
Were you here for the ten pages of debate where we beat to death the notion that people actually eat cake on a daily basis?
Clif's notes: It's hard to pin weight problems on "cake culture" when people only eat cake a few times per year.
People sure love posting pictures of what they eat a few times a year.5 -
Bry_Lander wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »Before I started using MFP I honestly never realized that so many people have food on their mind all of the time.
Maybe it just comes up a lot since this is a diet and fitness site?
And a 500 calorie piece of cake is the perfect food for someone looking to eat a nutritional low calorie diet?
Were you here for the ten pages of debate where we beat to death the notion that people actually eat cake on a daily basis?
Clif's notes: It's hard to pin weight problems on "cake culture" when people only eat cake a few times per year.
If you think about cake, talk about cake, and post pics of cake every day, but only eat it a few times a year, are you actually part of some underground cake subculture? Any anthropologists available to clarify that?
Yesterday is not every day. I neither think nor talk about cake every day or even most days.
I'm not sure I've ever posted a picture of cake...except the meat cake I served my dog for his birthday...put that one on the internet (it had peanut butter for icing and he sat nicely waiting while we sang to him).10 -
Packerjohn wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »Before I started using MFP I honestly never realized that so many people have food on their mind all of the time.
Maybe it just comes up a lot since this is a diet and fitness site?
And a 500 calorie piece of cake is the perfect food for someone looking to eat a nutritional low calorie diet?
Were you here for the ten pages of debate where we beat to death the notion that people actually eat cake on a daily basis?
Clif's notes: It's hard to pin weight problems on "cake culture" when people only eat cake a few times per year.
People sure love posting pictures of what they eat a few times a year.
Yup. Anticipation does a great job at enhancing the pleasure when the cake is eaten8 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »Before I started using MFP I honestly never realized that so many people have food on their mind all of the time.
Maybe it just comes up a lot since this is a diet and fitness site?
And a 500 calorie piece of cake is the perfect food for someone looking to eat a nutritional low calorie diet?
Were you here for the ten pages of debate where we beat to death the notion that people actually eat cake on a daily basis?
Clif's notes: It's hard to pin weight problems on "cake culture" when people only eat cake a few times per year.
If you think about cake, talk about cake, and post pics of cake every day, but only eat it a few times a year, are you actually part of some underground cake subculture? Any anthropologists available to clarify that?
Yesterday is not every day. I neither think nor talk about cake every day or even most days.
I'm not sure I've ever posted a picture of cake...except the meat cake I served my dog for his birthday...put that one on the internet (it had peanut butter for icing and he sat nicely waiting while we sang to him).
Not directed toward you specifically, just ponderings about the cake-thinking culture in general0 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »I brought in Panera bagels for my team this morning. As they entered the conference room for our team meeting, I enthusiastically encouraged each of them to take a bagel.
I'm such a jerk.
Side note: Only 2 out of 11 accepted and the rest went to the kitchen to go for grabs. I was not offended by the 9 people who refused a bagel. I guess bagel culture is not as strong as cake culture.
the 9 could have pretended to eat them.8 -
This has just got me to thinking about when I last actually had a full slice of cake. I had crumble and custard last week if that counts? But actual cake? Honestly can't remember!
I think the cake heavy chat was precipitated by someone being very evangelically against cake in the workplace. I think they were also the first ones to post pictures of cake.
Shrug. Just a bit of fun innit.4 -
Packerjohn wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »Before I started using MFP I honestly never realized that so many people have food on their mind all of the time.
Maybe it just comes up a lot since this is a diet and fitness site?
And a 500 calorie piece of cake is the perfect food for someone looking to eat a nutritional low calorie diet?
But it can be the perfect food for someone eating a high calorie nutritional diet.
My favourite cycle ride of the year is hosted by three cycling clubs who provide food and drink along the way.
About the ninety mile mark you arrive at the beautiful village of Chiddingfold where the cricket clubhouse is used to host the afternoon stop. The smell of homemade cakes hitting you as you walk in the door is amazing.
Homemade scone with clotted cream and jam, plus a rock cake washed down with a couple of cups of tea is the perfect pick me up and fuel for the last 40 miles.
Three cereal bars (salted caramel flavour - yum!) and 3 Soreen (individual) malt loaves also eaten along the way.
621g of carbs, 185g of protein and 129g of fat that day. A substantial calorie deficit too.
Context is important.....11 -
Bry_Lander wrote: »Before I started using MFP I honestly never realized that so many people have food on their mind all of the time.
Ah yes. Because I talk about booze must make me an alcoholic.8 -
Packerjohn wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »Before I started using MFP I honestly never realized that so many people have food on their mind all of the time.
Maybe it just comes up a lot since this is a diet and fitness site?
And a 500 calorie piece of cake is the perfect food for someone looking to eat a nutritional low calorie diet?
Were you here for the ten pages of debate where we beat to death the notion that people actually eat cake on a daily basis?
Clif's notes: It's hard to pin weight problems on "cake culture" when people only eat cake a few times per year.
People sure love posting pictures of what they eat a few times a year.
It's almost like people often find pleasure or excitement in pleasures that are experienced more rarely.18 -
I can't even remember the last time I had real cake (this doesn't count protein cheesecake). I think it was maybe two Thanksgivings ago? I made a cheesecake? Maybe? My memory isn't always the best. Cake just doesn't factor into my life that much.
Not near as much as trying to get a rise out of people using straw men by the two of you does, apparently.1 -
Packerjohn wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »Before I started using MFP I honestly never realized that so many people have food on their mind all of the time.
Maybe it just comes up a lot since this is a diet and fitness site?
And a 500 calorie piece of cake is the perfect food for someone looking to eat a nutritional low calorie diet?
Were you here for the ten pages of debate where we beat to death the notion that people actually eat cake on a daily basis?
Clif's notes: It's hard to pin weight problems on "cake culture" when people only eat cake a few times per year.
People sure love posting pictures of what they eat a few times a year.
Where are all these cake pictures?
But sure, I posted lots of pictures of my trip to Hawaii last year (not here) even though I don't plan on going back for several more years.
Liking something, posting pictures of something...doesn't mean it's a regular indulgence.
I share pictures of sweet vehicles with people but I don't buy them very often (been ten years since I last bought a vehicle).1 -
VintageFeline wrote: »This has just got me to thinking about when I last actually had a full slice of cake. I had crumble and custard last week if that counts? But actual cake? Honestly can't remember!
I think the cake heavy chat was precipitated by someone being very evangelically against cake in the workplace. I think they were also the first ones to post pictures of cake.
Shrug. Just a bit of fun innit.
Does Tiramisu count as cake? I had a piece of that Sunday night. OMG, what am I doing, I'm thinking and posting about cake, you people have roped me into this...12
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