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What are your unpopular opinions about health / fitness?
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I'd love to lift at home, but I don't have the many several grand I would need to build a home gym I wanted
You wouldn't have to spend that much I don't think.
I have a weight set (2nd hand) a squat rack my husband/son built and chin up bar, rings, plates etc...
the most expensive thing is the weight plates...at 1$ a pound...it can add up.1 -
Some games are not sports. They may require skill, and a bit of fitness but a sport? Worthy of the Olympics? Nah.
Games IMO:- nascar or other race car or motor bike sports
- golf
- ping pong
- bowling
- curling (that was hard for a Canadian to admit)
- baseball
- horse riding or jumping
- crickett
Almost sport like:
diving
ski jumping
While yoga is not a sport, it is an exercise that destroys me well.
Lotsa nope there. How are you defining a sport? Most of those are sports and require training and fitness.
Training and fitness in the elite maybe. Specialized skills? Definitely.
I forgot darts and billards in there.
This is just purely opinion based. Like deciding on whether art actually art to an observer. Some fitness required does play into it - for me.
All sports are games, but not all games are sports. I think it boils down to this: in order for a game to be a sport, there has to be some sort of physical defense presented by an individual or team. By this standard, bowling, golf, track, gymnastics, diving, etc. are not sports, because they can be performed individually without anyone else present. However, games like polo, tennis, curling, soccer, fencing, etc., are sports, because there is another party attempting to physically defend the progress of the individual/team.
There are plenty of gray areas. Car racing / horse racing / long distance track (where they aren’t confined to a lane) where people are able to passively or incidentally interfere with each other; is this defense? I’m not sure, probably not. Also, the World Series of Poker events – is the play of others a defense, in that they bluff and otherwise try to derail the other players? This is not a direct defense, since they can’t physically effect what cards other players receive and how they play them. Since it is merely a psychological “defense”, poker is a game, not a sport.
Darts - is closing out a number “defense”? Billiards - is placing your ball between your opponent’s and the closest pocket defense?
Another element - physicality. Is there a minimal amount of physical effort required? If not, chess is a sport, lol7 -
Some games are not sports. They may require skill, and a bit of fitness but a sport? Worthy of the Olympics? Nah.
Games IMO:- nascar or other race car or motor bike sports
- golf
- ping pong
- bowling
- curling (that was hard for a Canadian to admit)
- baseball
- horse riding or jumping
- crickett
Almost sport like:
diving
ski jumping
While yoga is not a sport, it is an exercise that destroys me well.
I have to say this since I have played most of the above....
nascar/bike sports take a lot of physical strength and endurance to do (friends who motorcross)
Golf requires lots of walking and the swing requires muscle (I play and I am sore for the first couple of days)
ping pong...have you not seen those fast games...that's endurance and strength
bowling I know lots who are sore afterwards so it does require physical movement
curling ...really that is a sport for sure...lots of core strength required etc.
baseball...ah hello
horseback riding...you must not have ever ridden...strength and endurance are required to actually ride...not just saunter
cricket...really??? have you seen a game???
diving and ski jumping require lots of strength and endurance and fitness...
the above maybe except bowling are all sports that require not only skill but physical fitness to play...even the baseball players that are overweight...yah they are fit to a point too...similar to powerlifters who are bigger aka overweight/fat.5 -
Well *kitten*, 10 years of gymnastics I most definitely thought was a sport and now my whole life is a lie!11
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VintageFeline wrote: »Well *kitten*, 10 years of gymnastics I most definitely thought was a sport and now my whole life is a lie!
gymnastics actually better meets the archaic definition of "sport" than most of the others, since it originally comes from agility conditioning for ancient armies. Specifically, as training for Greek, Athenian, and Spartan warriors.1 -
Some games are not sports. They may require skill, and a bit of fitness but a sport? Worthy of the Olympics? Nah.
Games IMO:- nascar or other race car or motor bike sports
- golf
- ping pong
- bowling
- curling (that was hard for a Canadian to admit)
- baseball
- horse riding or jumping
- crickett
Almost sport like:
diving
ski jumping
While yoga is not a sport, it is an exercise that destroys me well.
You are actually opining that equestrian events should not be an Olympic sport? I think the ancient Greeks who invented the entire concept of the Olympics would disagree.
There is, granted, a yawning chasm between lumping 200 lbs of fat into a saddle like a sack of potatoes for a two-hour tourist trail ride vs. actual skilled riding descending from ancient military arts.4 -
French_Peasant wrote: »Some games are not sports. They may require skill, and a bit of fitness but a sport? Worthy of the Olympics? Nah.
Games IMO:- nascar or other race car or motor bike sports
- golf
- ping pong
- bowling
- curling (that was hard for a Canadian to admit)
- baseball
- horse riding or jumping
- crickett
Almost sport like:
diving
ski jumping
While yoga is not a sport, it is an exercise that destroys me well.
You are actually opining that equestrian events should not be an Olympic sport? I think the ancient Greeks who invented the entire concept of the Olympics would disagree.
There is, granted, a yawning chasm between lumping 200 lbs of fat into a saddle like a sack of potatoes for a two-hour tourist trail ride vs. actual skilled riding descending from ancient military arts.
yep. Also, according to the aforementioned archaic definition of "sport" as basically practice for warfare or combat, I don't think you can get much more "sport" than equestrian sports, aka cavalry practice.3 -
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The more people get upset about their game *not* being called a sport, the more I am confident it is not a sport.13
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stanmann571 wrote: »Alatariel75 wrote: »Some games are not sports. They may require skill, and a bit of fitness but a sport? Worthy of the Olympics? Nah.
Games IMO:- nascar or other race car or motor bike sports
- golf
- ping pong
- bowling
- curling (that was hard for a Canadian to admit)
- baseball
- horse riding or jumping
- crickett
Almost sport like:
diving
ski jumping
While yoga is not a sport, it is an exercise that destroys me well.
Sports don't necessitate fitness, they necessitate skill. In many sports, a level of fitness is required to reach the requisite level of skill, but not always. I think what's off is your definition of "sport".
The traditional definition of sport are combat/warrior skills performed in a nonlethal/recreational format.
that seems like an awfully archaic definition of "sport."
Be that as it may, it's Objective not subjective and thus useful for conversation.
For example Darts exercises the skills used in Javelin throwing when outside practice is unfeasible.... Snow/ice/etc... Note: Rain doesn't qualify... If it ain't rainin... it ain't trainin.1 -
byustrongman wrote: »The more people get upset about their game being called a sport, the more I am confident it is not a sport.
what? assuming you mean...the more people get upset that their game isn't a sport...
but in all fairness sport is defined as "an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment." or "an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature"
and until you play or do the activity mentioned your opinion on it being a sport/game is moot.3 -
byustrongman wrote: »The more people get upset about their game *not* being called a sport, the more I am confident it is not a sport.
way to set the "dumbest post of the day" bar so high this early in the day.11 -
byustrongman wrote: »The more people get upset about their game *not* being called a sport, the more I am confident it is not a sport.
way to set the "dumbest post of the day" bar so high this early in the day.
If you're so insecure that a stranger on the internet not recognizing your activity as their definition of sport, then I'm dubious of the nature of that activity. Most sports impart a self-confidence that give you the ability to not care about other peoples categorization.12 -
byustrongman wrote: »byustrongman wrote: »The more people get upset about their game *not* being called a sport, the more I am confident it is not a sport.
way to set the "dumbest post of the day" bar so high this early in the day.
If you're so insecure that a stranger on the internet not recognizing your activity as their definition of sport, then I'm dubious of the nature of that activity. Most sports impart a self-confidence that give you the ability to not care about other peoples categorization.
Definitely not people being insecure. Rather pointing out a false statement and providing reasons as to why it's false.. But whatever floats your boat. If baseball isn't a sport - damn, what will America do. Oh wait, that's because it is. Oye.
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There is a difference between a sport and a competition. All sports are competitions, but not all competitions are sports. Fishing doesn’t become a sport merely because a lot of fishermen get together and compete against each other for a prize, it is a competition. The same with synchronized swimming, dogsledding, powerlifting, competitive eating, ice sculpturing, and lumberjacking; the mere fact that people gather and engage in these activities in competition with each other does not make them sports. That doesn’t mean that many competitive activities don’t require just as much talent, dexterity, strength, and resilience as sports do.5
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byustrongman wrote: »byustrongman wrote: »The more people get upset about their game *not* being called a sport, the more I am confident it is not a sport.
way to set the "dumbest post of the day" bar so high this early in the day.
If you're so insecure that a stranger on the internet not recognizing your activity as their definition of sport, then I'm dubious of the nature of that activity. Most sports impart a self-confidence that give you the ability to not care about other peoples categorization.
Definitely not people being insecure. Rather pointing out a false statement and providing reasons as to why it's false.. But whatever floats your boat. If baseball isn't a sport - damn, what will America do. Oh wait, that's because it is. Oye.
Opinions on whether something qualifies as a sport can and do vary across all domains. Saying "Golf is not a sport" isn't a false statement unless you understand a lot more about what that person's definition of sport is.
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/is-golf-a-sport-and-the-answer-isit-depends
Just as an example. But the more someone demands that others call their activity a sport, the more I think "the lady (or gentleman) doth protest too much..."8 -
byustrongman wrote: »byustrongman wrote: »byustrongman wrote: »The more people get upset about their game *not* being called a sport, the more I am confident it is not a sport.
way to set the "dumbest post of the day" bar so high this early in the day.
If you're so insecure that a stranger on the internet not recognizing your activity as their definition of sport, then I'm dubious of the nature of that activity. Most sports impart a self-confidence that give you the ability to not care about other peoples categorization.
Definitely not people being insecure. Rather pointing out a false statement and providing reasons as to why it's false.. But whatever floats your boat. If baseball isn't a sport - damn, what will America do. Oh wait, that's because it is. Oye.
Opinions on whether something qualifies as a sport can and do vary across all domains. Saying "Golf is not a sport" isn't a false statement unless you understand a lot more about what that person's definition of sport is.
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/is-golf-a-sport-and-the-answer-isit-depends
Just as an example. But the more someone demands that others call their activity a sport, the more I think "the lady (or gentleman) doth protest too much..."
says the gentleman protesting people challenging his limited definition of "sport."
that sword cuts both ways10 -
byustrongman wrote: »byustrongman wrote: »The more people get upset about their game *not* being called a sport, the more I am confident it is not a sport.
way to set the "dumbest post of the day" bar so high this early in the day.
If you're so insecure that a stranger on the internet not recognizing your activity as their definition of sport, then I'm dubious of the nature of that activity. Most sports impart a self-confidence that give you the ability to not care about other peoples categorization.
Is powerlifting a sport though?1 -
byustrongman wrote: »byustrongman wrote: »byustrongman wrote: »The more people get upset about their game *not* being called a sport, the more I am confident it is not a sport.
way to set the "dumbest post of the day" bar so high this early in the day.
If you're so insecure that a stranger on the internet not recognizing your activity as their definition of sport, then I'm dubious of the nature of that activity. Most sports impart a self-confidence that give you the ability to not care about other peoples categorization.
Definitely not people being insecure. Rather pointing out a false statement and providing reasons as to why it's false.. But whatever floats your boat. If baseball isn't a sport - damn, what will America do. Oh wait, that's because it is. Oye.
Opinions on whether something qualifies as a sport can and do vary across all domains. Saying "Golf is not a sport" isn't a false statement unless you understand a lot more about what that person's definition of sport is.
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/is-golf-a-sport-and-the-answer-isit-depends
Just as an example. But the more someone demands that others call their activity a sport, the more I think "the lady (or gentleman) doth protest too much..."
If that were the case then there would be no absolute truths, it would all depend on what the persons definition was...
for example...my definition of murder could be to only shoot someone so I am not guilty if I stab them...
smh.
and the article you linked is from this site
https://golf.procon.org/
which does not give an anaswer just pros and cons
and again unless you play golf...your stance is moot.5 -
Bry_Lander wrote: »There is a difference between a sport and a competition. All sports are competitions, but not all competitions are sports. Fishing doesn’t become a sport merely because a lot of fishermen get together and compete against each other for a prize, it is a competition. The same with synchronized swimming, dogsledding, powerlifting, competitive eating, ice sculpturing, and lumberjacking; the mere fact that people gather and engage in these activities in competition with each other does not make them sports. That doesn’t mean that many competitive activities don’t require just as much talent, dexterity, strength, and resilience as sports do.
you might want to revamp this list...
synchronized swimming is hard and requires a lot of physical endurance and strength.
as does powerlifting
lumber jacking aka highland games
sports again are defined as an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment.
where as game is defined as a form of play or sport, especially a competitive one played according to rules and decided by skill, strength, or luck.
and competitions are what are a result of games/sports...
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