Somebody lectured me about Splenda today
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So, I can't say that artificial sweeteners causes headaches, but I just read all 19 pages of this thread, I can say with absolutely veracity that this thread DOES cause headaches, because I have one now.
Does anyone want to peer review my study?33 -
So, I can't say that artificial sweeteners causes headaches, but I just read all 19 pages of this thread, I can say with absolutely veracity that this thread DOES cause headaches, because I have one now.
Does anyone want to peer review my study?
Well, for that we would need to know more about your sample (size, demographics, etc) as well as your methodology to reach that conclusion.
I'll even volunteer to repeat the experiment to make sure that the review is solid5 -
@briscogun You didn't read it in moderation so I can't stamp your study.6
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So... it's employee recognition week here at High Desert State Prison (in addition to being Teacher Appreciation Week-- yay! I'm doubly appreciated), and as I came into the lounge to enter grades and attendance, I commented that (as a Type I diabetic), I thought the candy-in-a-cup that I was given was a less than ideal way of showing appreciation. A fellow teacher claimed that she'd seen me drinking a Pepsi, at which point I pointed out that it was, in fact, a Diet Pepsi... and she told me that artificial sweeteners were just as bad as sugar.
I remembered the poster from this blog who, earlier, commented that he had been similarly accosted and commented that he thought it was unlikely that diet drinks would provoke an insulin reaction. Thanks to that post, I had a ready reply... which caused her much consternation and shut her right up. Thanks, guys!
(As an aside... if only artificial sweeteners could provoke an insulin response. Think how easy treatment of diabetes would become!)29 -
latrans321 wrote: »So... it's employee recognition week here at High Desert State Prison (in addition to being Teacher Appreciation Week-- yay! I'm doubly appreciated), and as I came into the lounge to enter grades and attendance, I commented that (as a Type I diabetic), I thought the candy-in-a-cup that I was given was a less than ideal way of showing appreciation. A fellow teacher claimed that she'd seen me drinking a Pepsi, at which point I pointed out that it was, in fact, a Diet Pepsi... and she told me that artificial sweeteners were just as bad as sugar.
I remembered the poster from this blog who, earlier, commented that he had been similarly accosted and commented that he thought it was unlikely that diet drinks would provoke an insulin reaction. Thanks to that post, I had a ready reply... which caused her much consternation and shut her right up. Thanks, guys! ( As an aside... if only artificial sweeteners could provoke an insulin response. Think how easy treatment of diabetes would become!)
There are tears of pride in my eyes as I read this.6 -
latrans321 wrote: »So... it's employee recognition week here at High Desert State Prison (in addition to being Teacher Appreciation Week-- yay! I'm doubly appreciated), and as I came into the lounge to enter grades and attendance, I commented that (as a Type I diabetic), I thought the candy-in-a-cup that I was given was a less than ideal way of showing appreciation. A fellow teacher claimed that she'd seen me drinking a Pepsi, at which point I pointed out that it was, in fact, a Diet Pepsi... and she told me that artificial sweeteners were just as bad as sugar.
I remembered the poster from this blog who, earlier, commented that he had been similarly accosted and commented that he thought it was unlikely that diet drinks would provoke an insulin reaction. Thanks to that post, I had a ready reply... which caused her much consternation and shut her right up. Thanks, guys!
(As an aside... if only artificial sweeteners could provoke an insulin response. Think how easy treatment of diabetes would become!)
If it did, then it still would not be the case for type 1's - just like eating carbs don't magically cause our pancreas to start working even though healthy people will have an insulin release with carb consumption. But yes, I also like to point out how problematic that would be if it were true for most people. Additionally, I point out how it isn't possibly true for some of us with paperweights for our pancreas.1 -
latrans321 wrote: »So... it's employee recognition week here at High Desert State Prison (in addition to being Teacher Appreciation Week-- yay! I'm doubly appreciated), and as I came into the lounge to enter grades and attendance, I commented that (as a Type I diabetic), I thought the candy-in-a-cup that I was given was a less than ideal way of showing appreciation. A fellow teacher claimed that she'd seen me drinking a Pepsi, at which point I pointed out that it was, in fact, a Diet Pepsi... and she told me that artificial sweeteners were just as bad as sugar.
I remembered the poster from this blog who, earlier, commented that he had been similarly accosted and commented that he thought it was unlikely that diet drinks would provoke an insulin reaction. Thanks to that post, I had a ready reply... which caused her much consternation and shut her right up. Thanks, guys!
(As an aside... if only artificial sweeteners could provoke an insulin response. Think how easy treatment of diabetes would become!)
Bravo!0 -
I've been a vegetarian most of my adult life, and for some reason this seems to really bother friends, and strangers. I've heard long tirades about the need for meat for protein, accusations that I don't really understand the pyramid of nature, emphatic statements about the toxicity of carrots, since they grow in polluted soil. I've never countered, cause being a vegetarian is my choice for my reasons, but I've always wondered why people felt that I needed to be persuaded to eat the way they eat.12
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I want a Splenda dress now3
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So, I can't say that artificial sweeteners causes headaches, but I just read all 19 pages of this thread, I can say with absolutely veracity that this thread DOES cause headaches, because I have one now.
Does anyone want to peer review my study?
+1. Now you have n=2. Probably statistically significant7 -
truvia is garbage too.10
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L1zardQueen wrote: »I had a shopper at Costco tell me that the Splenda in my cart would tear me up inside. WTF! What does that even mean? Every time I purchase Splenda I hope I see her again. The yellow packet is my fav!
That's a new one - you should have asked her how many times she's seen instant death due to splenda at a coffee shop...
Some people don't have the digestive enzymes to handle artificial sweetners. Allulose (the new kid on the block) is one for me (used in quest beyond cereal bars). Within 30 minutes of eating them l experience extreme digestive discomfort and bloating as do many people. That is probably what the shopper meant by "it'll tear your up inside".
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jspicher81 wrote: »L1zardQueen wrote: »I had a shopper at Costco tell me that the Splenda in my cart would tear me up inside. WTF! What does that even mean? Every time I purchase Splenda I hope I see her again. The yellow packet is my fav!
That's a new one - you should have asked her how many times she's seen instant death due to splenda at a coffee shop...
Some people don't have the digestive enzymes to handle artificial sweetners. Allulose (the new kid on the block) is one for me (used in quest beyond cereal bars). Within 30 minutes of eating them l experience extreme digestive discomfort and bloating as do many people. That is probably what the shopper meant by "it'll tear your up inside".
I've got similar with what ever was in some Ice cream I bought. But that just means I don't buy it. Certainly wouldn't tell someone else not to buy it.
hell, I'm sure there are people who can eat the sugar free Haribo.6 -
Tacklewasher wrote: »jspicher81 wrote: »L1zardQueen wrote: »I had a shopper at Costco tell me that the Splenda in my cart would tear me up inside. WTF! What does that even mean? Every time I purchase Splenda I hope I see her again. The yellow packet is my fav!
That's a new one - you should have asked her how many times she's seen instant death due to splenda at a coffee shop...
Some people don't have the digestive enzymes to handle artificial sweetners. Allulose (the new kid on the block) is one for me (used in quest beyond cereal bars). Within 30 minutes of eating them l experience extreme digestive discomfort and bloating as do many people. That is probably what the shopper meant by "it'll tear your up inside".
I've got similar with what ever was in some Ice cream I bought. But that just means I don't buy it. Certainly wouldn't tell someone else not to buy it.
hell, I'm sure there are people who can eat the sugar free Haribo.
I'd call that a dead certainty...
ETA oops misread the comment. Never mind.
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jspicher81 wrote: »L1zardQueen wrote: »I had a shopper at Costco tell me that the Splenda in my cart would tear me up inside. WTF! What does that even mean? Every time I purchase Splenda I hope I see her again. The yellow packet is my fav!
That's a new one - you should have asked her how many times she's seen instant death due to splenda at a coffee shop...
Some people don't have the digestive enzymes to handle artificial sweetners. Allulose (the new kid on the block) is one for me (used in quest beyond cereal bars). Within 30 minutes of eating them l experience extreme digestive discomfort and bloating as do many people. That is probably what the shopper meant by "it'll tear your up inside".
No one has the digestive enzymes to digest sucralose (Splenda)...that is sort of the point, that is why it is zero calorie. How would milligrams of something passing right through you "tear you up inside" exactly?13 -
So, I can't say that artificial sweeteners causes headaches, but I just read all 19 pages of this thread, I can say with absolutely veracity that this thread DOES cause headaches, because I have one now.
Does anyone want to peer review my study?
I have replicated your study with similar results.
Submitted for peer review.6 -
Where is the advice? If my family members smoked or consumed artificial sweeteners (which they don't - we're a pretty healthy family), I would encourage them to make choices I considered to be better based on the correlational studies I've seen and the fact that I don't see a compelling benefit to consuming artificial sweeteners - that's a hypothetical, and I haven't given advice to anyone on this forum at all.
Encouraging a family member is worlds different from lecturing a complete stranger in public about their choices. Even if it's the worst sh#t in the world, that doesn't give you the right.
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jspicher81 wrote: »truvia is garbage too.
Yep! Truvia tastes like garbage. Splenda all the way downtown6 -
ugh that Truvia, stevia stuff is the worst tasting crap ever, would not put it in my drink
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