May 2018 Running Challenge
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PastorVincent wrote: »Race report in a bit, right now all I can say is I'M NOT DEAD3
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I had a new followers request on Strava and my phone lost service in the midst of accepting. So, follow me again? I wasn't ignoring a request.
@sarahthes What luck to find a nice place close by to explore and run!!!! I have a 30 minute drive to my favorite place.
@MobyCarp I hope you get over this "wuss-ness" soon. maybe some rest and a few good meals will set you right.0 -
So, six days ago I ran the Pittsburgh Marathon and blew away my best time by twenty minutes. I decided that running my first ultra only six days later was a very wise and sensible thing to do and on paper it is! Well, it is if you ignore muscle fatigue and all that stuff. Please do not mimic me in this. I do not regret that choice, but it was not the wisest thing I ever planned.
As always, I was stalking the weather like a bank robber planning a heist. It was all over the place from cold to thunderstorms, to temperatures in the 80sF, and everything in between. The only constant was the pollen forecast which was bright red (very bad in case that is not obvious).
Race morning comes, and the weather reports are still fighting, so I pack a variety of clothes and we head out. I was a long way off from being decided on what to carry with me, but in the end, I think I choose pretty well.
The 50K was starting an hour before the 30K, so my wife, who was running the 30K, got to sit around the fire for a bit while I was running. It was cloudy and cold at the start. Standing in the queue to start I was shivering and considering stopping by my truck on the way out for a warmer top. I decided against it.
The race starts and quickly breaks up into two large groups. I think there was like a hundred people running the 50k. I was in the second pack and noticed our pace was around fifteen minutes. I felt this was a problem because we were on level asphalt. I passed them and caught up to the lead pack. They were doing more like 9:30 per mile, so I felt this was where I belonged. I knew the pace would drop a lot once we got to the trail, so I wanted to make sure I was at a good pace to fall from.
About a mile in we hit the trail. It was single track, and by that, I mean my shoulders were brushing plants on both sides of the trail. Pace fell predictably, but not as much as I was expecting. I was expecting based on talking with runners a three to four-minute loss in pace and we fell maybe only a minute or so.
The first “aid station” was at mile five. It was water only, but I had not touched the water I was carrying at all yet and blew through after taking a picture and sending it back to my wife. I had covered those five miles in about 50 minutes, so she had not started yet.
At this point, I was comfortable with the temperature and glad I had not grabbed my warmer top. I would have had to carry it for the next twenty-five or so miles. The pack I was running with broke up more and more as we hit harder parts of the trail. Eventually, I caught up with a young woman, let’s call her “S.” S offered to let me pass, but at this point, I realized I was pushing too hard and needed to back off so I fell back a few strides instead.
I chatted with S and we ran the next several hours together. She was an experienced ultrarunner training for a 100-mile race. She cheered when I said this was my first ultra and my first trail race.
The first 10 miles flew by. We completed them in about 2 hours. That is a far cry from my marathon pace, but I discovered quickly this trail was hard. As in it made the marathon effort look easy. There were lots of up and downs, mud, moss-covered rocks and invisible roots to contend with. None of which I had any meaningful experience with before this.
S was fun to run with. When we hit a good steep downhill, she would stick her arms out like an airplane and sweep back and forth across the hill descending way faster than I could. When we hit the mud bogs she would call out “Weeeee” as she navigated through them. In general, you could just tell she was enjoying herself.
Other runners joined us for short stints before passing or falling behind. At one point we were leading a pack of about half-dozen other runners. Most of the track was only wide enough for one runner so passing was always a bit of a juggling act.
We finally made it to the turnaround and the aid station there. We took advantage of the real bathrooms they had, the food, and refilled our water. Probably lost ten to fifteen minutes there, but at this point I really needed it. I left with S and she was saying “It is at this point I need to remember that there is still half the 50K left to run.”
I stayed with her through the next aid station where I needed to refill again and eat more oranges. I was really feeling the run at this point. S was talking with someone so I decided to start walking. My hope was I could walk for a bit and get ahead of her, then when she caught up, start running again.
That failed.
She caught up with me in minutes but as she did she said, “I am going to take this next part easy, so go head if you want.” I of course declined. We had around ten miles left, but I was nearing my limit. I stayed with S most of the way to the next aid station, but she eventually pulled away.
Turns out she, get this after she left me she met my wife on the trail and ran with her for a short while and they somehow worked out that she had just been running with me.
Around mile twenty-five, I set my wife a text telling her that I was at least an hour form the finish line and she should just rest and eat when she gets there. I had hoped to catch her and finish with her, but there was no way.
I walked for several miles lacking the strength to run, but the terrain would not have allowed much speed. I probably went nearly as fast walking as I would have running. Little by little the miles rolled away and eventually, with about three or four miles left, I was able to start running again.
Eventually I crossed the finish line with a time of 7:23:23. About an hour slower than I had hoped, but the trail was much harder than I was lead to believe and the temp was nearly 80F by the time we finished.
Overall, I think I made pretty good choices. I had plenty of liquid, thanks to refilling three times at the aid stations. I had plenty of food on my person, even finished with some left over. Leaving the warm clothes in the truck was a majorly good choice.
One thing that did not work well was my Amphipod belt. It got way too loose way early in the race. I ended up tying it in a knot to stop it from falling off. The food bars I bought were a bit tough to eat. They were too dry, but they did work.
Oh, running a PR marathon six days before should probably be reconsidered. Though the “you’re a beast” kinds of comments I got on the trail were pretty nice.
After crossing the finish line, I found out my wife only crossed about ten minutes before me, and “S” was not all that much farther off. So, I pretty much kept with a much more experienced runner for almost the entire race. I guess that is pretty okay.
Several runners on the trail told me that this was much easier than the marathon and I would like it much more. Well, they are wrong. It was way harder. Strava reports 4,475 feet of elevation, but I do not think that really does it justice. The steepness of some of the hills made going up very tough and coming back down very dangerous. There were many places where I was mostly in a controlled fall as I ran down the hill, afraid to try and slow down or stop.
Still, overall I am glad I have done it. The course was beautiful, and all of the runners were nice and friendly.
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@PastorVincent Great Race report.
"S" sounds like a typical Trail Hound, especially the "Airplane Arms and sweeping back and forth across the trail" on descending the hills. That is something I learned from a lady in our little club and now do on steep-wide descents - it's like a car doing switchbacks on a steep hill to climb/descend, you travel a little further for the same Vertical Elevation which makes for an easier/controlled descent - hidden added benefit is the extra balance you get from the Airplane Arms.
Especially liked the description of the single track with vegetation hitting your shoulders. I have been in events where I had to twist my torso sideways to fit between trees. Glad that it was a good experience.
Now picture yourself doing the same event next year without a PB marathon 1 week behind you.
Your legs/body will be fresh and it will be a completely differant experience. Trail is a love it or hate it experience usually. I have 3 fast Marathoners in our local club and they don't like Trail - where most of us Middle/Back of the pack seem to enjoy it more.1 -
@Pastorvincent Awesome race report!.
@ katharmonic That 19k race sounds so cool!
@sarahthes Cool pictures! That looms kike a great place to run. Although running at an abandoned campground does sound a bit creepy to me too!2 -
@Elise4270 @kgirlhart My only regret is that I tried the north side first. Dead end after 0.8km at private property with no trespassing signs. I think there might be another access point on the eastern bank to the north though. I will try again! I doubled back south and that's when I found all the fun. Just wish I had more time to explore. It will be a couple of weeks until I can get over there again as I've a trail race next weekend that is basically 20km further north along the same creek system.
Edit: the race location is 20km further downstream. The race is only 11km. I felt like I should clarify.2 -
1 May: 11.64
2 May: 6.0 + yoga
3 May: 7.22
4 May: Rest
5 May: 6.6 + yoga
6 May: 12.74
7 May: yoga
8 May: 6.72
9 May: yoga
10 May: 10.04
11 May: rest
12 May: yoga
13 May: 13.13
74.09 of 150km4 -
Sometimes we cheat and use these for s'mores
If you're not at a camp fire, you can really cheat by using the microwave (not nearly as good, of course), though now that I say that, I wonder why I've never tried making them using the flame from our gas stove. Or the pencil torch I use for creme brulee.
I use my oven broiler. I can make a whole pan of s’mores in one go. The broiler even gets the marshmallows all toasty!
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@PastorVincent - wow I am so glad you are still alive and did such a great job on the 2nd race, umm 3rd race, in a week! I hope you are going to take some time not to let your body recover!
@5BeautifulDays - I have always believed you should focus on distance, increasing slowly and the additional speed will come as you are able to push yourself once having conquered the distance.
@sarahthes - So cool to find a fun new place to run and explore!
@zdyb23456 - that is a brilliant idea!
Took the pup out for a little recovery run for me and get the wiggles out run for him, this morning in the cold, windy drizzle! Amazing I know since it was just 90 here a few days ago and we never get weather like this so late in spring. I am not complaining though, it was great running weather. I just wished at the beginning and again at the end of the run that I had worn long sleeves. My legs did better than expected after the long run yesterday and while my knee was feeling a little cranky initially, it felt fine later and has continued to be fine all day. After the run we headed out in traffic for a fun day with family!
Date........Miles.......Total
05/01......0.00.......0.00 - + Strength Training
05/02......5.41.......5.41
05/03......0.00.......5.41
05/04......3.88.......9.29
05/05......6.38.....15.67 - 'Cinco de My Oh My Miles' 5k + Dog Beach run
05/06......0.00.....15.67
05/07......5.42.....21.09 - + Agility
05/08......0.00.....21.09 - + Strength Training
05/09......5.14.....26.23
05/10......0.00.....26.23 - + Strength Training
05/11......8.98.....35.21
05/12......4.38.....39.59
05/13......0.00.....39.59
My completed and upcoming races. Let me know if you will be running them too.
02/04/18 - Surf City Half Marathon
05/05/18 - Cinco de Miles 5k
07/22/18 - San Francisco 2nd Half Marathon
12/15/18 - San Diego Holiday Half Marathon
02/03/19 - Surf City Half Marathon
05/11/19 - Santa Barbara Wine Country Half Marathon5 -
katharmonic wrote: »Right to Run 19K today in Seneca Falls, NY - the home of the first Women's Rights Convention in 1848 and the beginning of the women's suffrage movement. It is a 19k for the 19th Amendment granting women the right to vote in 1920 (heard someone talking about the big event they will have in 2020 to celebrate 100 years - that should be cool).
The day started out better than I expected as it was not pouring rain when we left and I got hopeful. It did start raining though as we got close to Seneca Falls and was a bit of a downpour when we parked. We waited in the car and it let up quite a bit. I wore a fabulous red plastic rain poncho to start. It was mostly just light rain at that point. We had the opportunity to meet and take a picture with Kathrine Switzer, the first woman to run the Boston marathon with a numbered entry. So cool!
Things settled into a light mist, so it was not too bad. Only around 45 degrees though so I kept my gloves on the whole race. I ditched my poncho about mile 2. The course was nice, mostly flat with a few rolling hills. One gravel road which was not so nice to run on and one cross-country part where we had to run on grass. There was an uphill on a trail through a park that was probably the toughest. A quiet, country scenery for much of it - and for a while a goat ran with us! Her name was Maia (according to the people yelling for her to come back) and she was quite a good pace goat. She went about a half mile before deciding she was bored of it. We ran along the lake a bit and through the campus of New York Chiropractic College. We ended up by the river and downtown Seneca Falls. Very picturesque little place with such great history.
I ran the whole thing with my friend/former coach and our goal was to just keep a decent pace but not really race it all out. I finished in 2:07:55, which was a 10:50 pace. Not bad, especially as we did make one pit stop. After we were done, my friend went out to get another hour in (she's got a marathon coming up) and I got some food and then got a free treatment from the Chiropractic College students. That felt awesome. It was mostly a massage and working some knots in my shoulders and upper back. After I was done with that I had cooled down so much and was freezing so I changed into dry clothes the best I could from my drop bag. My fingers were white from Raynaud's and my gloves were damp so it was kind of miserable. Finally my friend was finished (she's such a good person, she went back on the course to find someone who could use a buddy to run them in, and ran back with one of the last runners). We grabbed some more snacks, cruised the vendors who were packing up, hopped our shuttle bus and headed home. I'm still trying to fully warm up, but overall it was a good race and good day.
@katharmonic Wow, you got to meet Kathrine Switzer!! AND you did a race commemorating a very important event.
What a great day.0 -
Yay, PV is not dead!!!1
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5/1- rest
5/2- 2.1 mile walk with my dad
5/3- 3.2 mile run, race the landing 5k
5/4- strength training
5/5- rest
5/6- 1 mile run with my new Garmin!
5/7- strength training
5/8- 1.8 mile run and 45 minutes of spinning (whew, that was tough)
5/9- 2.2 mile walk
5/10- rest
5/11- 1.25 mile walk plus strength training
5/12- 2.7 mile walk (was supposed to be a 5k, but I took my 5 year old with me, and we took a short cut half way through the course. We were having a hard time keeping up and at the very back. It was a SLOW walk.)3 -
[quote="PastorVincent;c-41937058You can:
HOW DO I SHARE MY GARMIN WORKOUT DATA WITH NIKEPLUS?
http://support-en-eu.nikeplus.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/57512
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@PastorVincent I have done that so many times, I can't count. I've done it at home, outside, at my Mum's house, outside her house, at work, outside work, from when I bought the watch over a month ago to the other day right before I ran. Every time I get the screen with the Garmin and Nike symbols with the green checkmark in the middle to show they are linked. Yet next run....nothing. I've been able to synch it with MFP and also with Strava, so I know it's linking, just not with Nike. Guess they keep having domestic spats?
Meanwhile:
Played mind games with myself last night. Didn't run before work, so brought my stuff to run after work. (30 min planned) Was exhausted, so told myself "ok, just do 20 mins". So I did 20 mins, felt ok, so then I said to myself, "so close, might as well go for 2 miles." At 2 miles, said "well, at this close, might as well just finish it up!" Accomplished original plan of 30 mins!
May Goal: 20 Miles
5/2: 2.03 miles
5/5: 2.50 miles
5/9: 1.65 miles (all run)
5/12: 2.13 miles - 8.31 miles run, 11.69 to go
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Yearly goal: 200 miles: Jan - April: 61.68 miles run - 8.31= 130.01 to go!
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It's been a long week with family in town but a good one too! I've been fussing over my running plan for the last few weeks so of course it only took a couple of weeks for it to go by the wayside. That's okay - I find having a plan makes improvising more comfortable. And going off plan just means I get to revise the plan again going forward!
So yeah, the plan has been to stick to the 10% per week increase, running about a half hour twice a week and then a long run on Saturdays that gradually increases my milage until I don't feel like increasing it anymore. My main route has been down to a lake by my house, part way up the shore, then turning back home at different points depending on how far I'm planning going. This week I'd planned 3.4 miles for my long run, which would be the last time I'd planned to turn off instead of going all the way around the lake. It was a bit cooler than it has been and I was feeling really good as I got to my planned turnoff, so I started thinking I'd just go for it. Then I saw how steep the turn-off was and decided I'd much rather run another half a mile on the flat than deal with that hill.
Of course, it didn't occur to me right away that because of how I'd started the run, I ended up doing more like a mile and a half longer than planned, but that was okay - I felt great the whole time, kept a steady pace, and genuinely felt like I could have kept going when I got back to the house. I felt *far* worse after the overly fast run last weekend and that was less than half the distance and I didn't even run the whole time. And my legs feel fine today even after walking another 5-6 miles in the afternoon with my dad.
So now I've officially circumnavigated my first lake (woo!), run more than 5k straight (WOO!), beat my personal distance record by 1.8 miles (WOOOO!!), and am wondering how far I'll go before this stops being fun. I'm kind of nervous about ending up as a distance runner because it seems like such a big time commitment, but I'll willing to ride this train for now and see where it goes.
5/1 Tu - 0:27:21 - 2.41 miles
5/2 We -
5/3 Th -
5/4 Fr -
5/5 Sa - 0:22:19 - 1.9 miles
5/6 Su - 0:34:51 - 3.01 miles
5/7 Mo -
5/8 Tu - 0:24:56 - 2.2 miles
5/9 We -
5/10 Th - 0:28:25 - 2.48 miles
5/11 Fr -
5/12 Sa - 0:55:58 - 4.8 miles
Total: 16.8 miles
5/13 Su -
5/14 Mo -
5/15 Tu - 2.5 miles
5/16 We -
5/17 Th - 2.5 miles
5/18 Fr -
5/19 Sa - 5.4 miles8 -
5.5km this morning. Sun was out, wind was light, perfect temp. It was a good run. Nice steady pace.
MTD : ~ 24km3 -
May 1 - 4 mile run
May 3 - 5 mile Treadmill run
May 5 - Starfish 5k race
May 6 - 11 mile run
May 8 - 4 mile Treadmill run
May 10 - 6.9 mile run
May 12 - 10 mile run
May 13 - Run Like A Mother 5k race
47.1 miles so far/Goal 95 miles
Upcoming Races:
6/10/18 Manitowoc Half Marathon
6/23/18 Five Fifty Fifty Run for Mental Health
7/4/18 Antioch Run for Freedom 5K
8/18/18 Madison Mini Half Marathon
9/16/18 North Face Endurance 10k6 -
May Goal: 85 miles
5/1: 6 miles
5/2: 5.75 miles
5/4: 5.6 miles
5/6: 12.5 miles
5/8: 4.1 miles
5/9: 4.1 miles
5/10: 3.2 miles
5/13: 8 miles
49.3/85 miles completed
Today was my last long run before the HM next weekend. It was only 8 miles. I felt slow, but I got out later than I should have and it was already pretty hot and it was also humid and windy. But overall it was a nice run. And even if I run at this pace I should be able to have a decent time for my first HM. I'm hoping for 2:45. I know most people strive for a sub 2 hour HM. But I am not ready for that yet and I will be happy as long as it is under 3 hrs. And since my longest run so far has been 12.5 miles it will be a PR for me as long as I finish.
Happy Mother's Day to all the mom's on here!
Upcoming races:
5/19/18: Run for 57th AHC Half Marathon
11/10/18: Wags & Whiskers 5K6
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