High Fructose Corn Syrup is Bad?
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LOL. Did you even read that before you linked to it?:...At this time, there's insufficient evidence to say that high-fructose corn syrup is any less healthy than other types of sweeteners...13 -
You mean the corrupt food manufacturing companies who are making money off people by selling highly addictive foods? Food that's made in labs with people wearing white coats. Yeah I know most of the people on here can control themselves with these foods but there are millions of people who can't don't! These companies manufacture foods in such a way that it's irresistible and you can't stop eating. So sick of HFCS being put in everything. Yes it is bad for you. If you want to have it fine, but don't pretend it's good for you.
FIFY. It's called personal accountability.
Both of my parents have diabetes so I think I know what I'm talking about. I know it's personal accountability, but it is seriously soooo addictive for some people. I've seen it with my own eyes.13 -
You mean the corrupt food manufacturing companies who are making money off people by selling highly addictive foods? Food that's made in labs with people wearing white coats. Yeah I know most of the people on here can control themselves with these foods but there are millions of people who can't! These companies manufacture foods in such a way that it's irresistible and you can't stop eating. So sick of HFCS being put in everything. Yes it is bad for you. If you want to have it fine, but don't pretend it's good for you.
I thought corn grew in fields and not in labs?
Must be some huge labs hidden away somewhere.....9 -
LOL. Did you even read that before you linked to it?:...At this time, there's insufficient evidence to say that high-fructose corn syrup is any less healthy than other types of sweeteners...
And it was such a short article you couldn't miss that. And it says HFCS is common in sweetened drinks, so ummm... not "everything".6 -
You mean the corrupt food manufacturing companies who are making money off people by selling highly addictive foods? Food that's made in labs with people wearing white coats. Yeah I know most of the people on here can control themselves with these foods but there are millions of people who can't don't! These companies manufacture foods in such a way that it's irresistible and you can't stop eating. So sick of HFCS being put in everything. Yes it is bad for you. If you want to have it fine, but don't pretend it's good for you.
FIFY. It's called personal accountability.
Both of my parents have diabetes so I think I know what I'm talking about. I know it's personal accountability, but it is seriously soooo addictive for some people. I've seen it with my own eyes.
Your parents might have problems with self-control, but that's on them, not the food companies. There is nothing addictive about HFCS.11 -
"Research has shown that high-fructose corn syrup is chemically similar to table sugar . . . At this time, there's insufficient evidence to say that high-fructose corn syrup is any less healthy than other types of sweeteners."
This is your *supporting* source?7 -
@AnvilHead i am not sure if your familiar with Boston though any place that serves popover's normal have a dipping sauce which has High Fructose Corn Syrup in it. I have also been to restaurants where they would serve pecan rolls prior to eating your meal.6
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You mean the corrupt food manufacturing companies who are making money off people by selling highly addictive foods? Food that's made in labs with people wearing white coats. Yeah I know most of the people on here can control themselves with these foods but there are millions of people who can't don't! These companies manufacture foods in such a way that it's irresistible and you can't stop eating. So sick of HFCS being put in everything. Yes it is bad for you. If you want to have it fine, but don't pretend it's good for you.
FIFY. It's called personal accountability.
Both of my parents have diabetes so I think I know what I'm talking about. I know it's personal accountability, but it is seriously soooo addictive for some people. I've seen it with my own eyes.
Your experiences with two individuals don't qualify you to make sweeping generalizations about millions of people.4 -
bostonjim23 wrote: »@AnvilHead i am not sure if your familiar with Boston though any place that serves popover's normal have a dipping sauce which has High Fructose Corn Syrup in it.
Maybe your post should have made it clear you were talking about a regional thing and not something that people encounter generally.4 -
bostonjim23 wrote: »@AnvilHead i am not sure if your familiar with Boston though any place that serves popover's normal have a dipping sauce which has High Fructose Corn Syrup in it.
Okay, if you say so....but not sure why you tagged me on that one.1 -
You mean the corrupt food manufacturing companies who are making money off people by selling highly addictive foods? Food that's made in labs with people wearing white coats. Yeah I know most of the people on here can control themselves with these foods but there are millions of people who can't don't! These companies manufacture foods in such a way that it's irresistible and you can't stop eating. So sick of HFCS being put in everything. Yes it is bad for you. If you want to have it fine, but don't pretend it's good for you.
FIFY. It's called personal accountability.
Both of my parents have diabetes so I think I know what I'm talking about. I know it's personal accountability, but it is seriously soooo addictive for some people. I've seen it with my own eyes.
Do you think HFCS causes diabetes?3 -
You mean the corrupt food manufacturing companies who are making money off people by selling highly addictive foods? Food that's made in labs with people wearing white coats. Yeah I know most of the people on here can control themselves with these foods but there are millions of people who can't don't! These companies manufacture foods in such a way that it's irresistible and you can't stop eating. So sick of HFCS being put in everything. Yes it is bad for you. If you want to have it fine, but don't pretend it's good for you.
FIFY. It's called personal accountability.
Both of my parents have diabetes so I think I know what I'm talking about. I know it's personal accountability, but it is seriously soooo addictive for some people. I've seen it with my own eyes.
I'm honestly not sure why you think your parents' T2 diabetes is relevant.3 -
bostonjim23 wrote: »@AnvilHead i am not sure if your familiar with Boston though any place that serves popover's normal have a dipping sauce which has High Fructose Corn Syrup in it. I have also been to restaurants where they would serve pecan rolls prior to eating your meal.
I think you should've tagged me: I was the one quibbling about restaurant freebies, not AnvilHead. I've been in Boston many times (go there usually a couple of times a year, though I don't live there), have eaten in many restaurants of many types, but have never been served a free popover or pecan roll. I'm not saying they don't exist - like I said, don't live there, so you know better - but they're not ubiquitous.
Once in a blue moon, I suppose I've been served free cornbread in the South, with honey (38% fructose if actual honey, potentially more if fake honey). Pecan rolls, never. If you tell me where those come free before the meal, I'd cheerfully visit - good ones are really yummy, especially if they use plenty of real butter. Not all pecan rolls contain notable amounts of fructose, though: Some do, and certainly there's plenty of sucrose in most. Even Karo syrup is fructose-free these days.3 -
bostonjim23 wrote: »@AnvilHead i am not sure if your familiar with Boston though any place that serves popover's normal have a dipping sauce which has High Fructose Corn Syrup in it. I have also been to restaurants where they would serve pecan rolls prior to eating your meal.
I think you should've tagged me: I was the one quibbling about restaurant freebies, not AnvilHead. I've been in Boston many times (go there usually a couple of times a year, though I don't live there), have eaten in many restaurants of many types, but have never been served a free popover or pecan roll. I'm not saying they don't exist - like I said, don't live there, so you know better - but they're not ubiquitous.
Once in a blue moon, I suppose I've been served free cornbread in the South, with honey (38% fructose if actual honey, potentially more if fake honey). Pecan rolls, never. If you tell me where those come free before the meal, I'd cheerfully visit - good ones are really yummy, especially if they use plenty of real butter. Not all pecan rolls contain notable amounts of fructose, though: Some do, and certainly there's plenty of sucrose in most. Even Karo syrup is fructose-free these days.
I've eaten all across America and I would definitely remember being served a free pecan roll at the beginning of my meal. This has never happened to me and now I think a little bit less of every restaurant I've ever visited.10 -
janejellyroll wrote: »bostonjim23 wrote: »@AnvilHead i am not sure if your familiar with Boston though any place that serves popover's normal have a dipping sauce which has High Fructose Corn Syrup in it. I have also been to restaurants where they would serve pecan rolls prior to eating your meal.
I think you should've tagged me: I was the one quibbling about restaurant freebies, not AnvilHead. I've been in Boston many times (go there usually a couple of times a year, though I don't live there), have eaten in many restaurants of many types, but have never been served a free popover or pecan roll. I'm not saying they don't exist - like I said, don't live there, so you know better - but they're not ubiquitous.
Once in a blue moon, I suppose I've been served free cornbread in the South, with honey (38% fructose if actual honey, potentially more if fake honey). Pecan rolls, never. If you tell me where those come free before the meal, I'd cheerfully visit - good ones are really yummy, especially if they use plenty of real butter. Not all pecan rolls contain notable amounts of fructose, though: Some do, and certainly there's plenty of sucrose in most. Even Karo syrup is fructose-free these days.
I've eaten all across America and I would definitely remember being served a free pecan roll at the beginning of my meal. This has never happened to me and now I think a little bit less of every restaurant I've ever visited.
I sense a brilliant marketing opportunity for some restaurant somewhere!4 -
Anyone else up for a road trip to find these free pecan rolls?10
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Someone is telling me that some panel of doctors have concluded that hfcs leads to weight gain because the body deposits something from the hfcs into the fat cells; and then the body can’t burn the fat cells up, or the body can’t ever get rid of the chemical or whatever it is that’s deposited. Sounds like a bunch of total hogwash to me, the same kind of stuff I’ve heard many times over by people who are just trying to make money off of their nonsense. I’m interested in hearing what anyone here knows about this topic.
It sounds like total hogwash because it is.3 -
janejellyroll wrote: »bostonjim23 wrote: »@AnvilHead i am not sure if your familiar with Boston though any place that serves popover's normal have a dipping sauce which has High Fructose Corn Syrup in it. I have also been to restaurants where they would serve pecan rolls prior to eating your meal.
I think you should've tagged me: I was the one quibbling about restaurant freebies, not AnvilHead. I've been in Boston many times (go there usually a couple of times a year, though I don't live there), have eaten in many restaurants of many types, but have never been served a free popover or pecan roll. I'm not saying they don't exist - like I said, don't live there, so you know better - but they're not ubiquitous.
Once in a blue moon, I suppose I've been served free cornbread in the South, with honey (38% fructose if actual honey, potentially more if fake honey). Pecan rolls, never. If you tell me where those come free before the meal, I'd cheerfully visit - good ones are really yummy, especially if they use plenty of real butter. Not all pecan rolls contain notable amounts of fructose, though: Some do, and certainly there's plenty of sucrose in most. Even Karo syrup is fructose-free these days.
I've eaten all across America and I would definitely remember being served a free pecan roll at the beginning of my meal. This has never happened to me and now I think a little bit less of every restaurant I've ever visited.
I need these free pecan rolls in my life, high fructose corn syrup-laden or not. Please someone let us know where we can show up for these things because I have never in my life seen such a thing.
Granted, I live in Kansas. We're not known for our pecan rolls around here.5 -
You mean the corrupt food manufacturing companies who are making money off people by selling highly addictive foods? Food that's made in labs with people wearing white coats. Yeah I know most of the people on here can control themselves with these foods but there are millions of people who can't! These companies manufacture foods in such a way that it's irresistible and you can't stop eating. So sick of HFCS being put in everything. Yes it is bad for you. If you want to have it fine, but don't pretend it's good for you.
I suppose so long as you don't have to take responsibility for what you stick in your mouth.3 -
Nothing is definitive - but there are studies that suggest cause for concern and the need for further investigation. For example:
"HFCS consumption with chow diet did not induce weight gain compared to water, chow-only controls but did induce glucose dysregulation and reduced evoked dopamine release in the dorsolateral striatum. These data show that HFCS can contribute to metabolic disorder and altered dopamine function independent of weight gain and high-fat diets. " https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5747444/
"Our findings suggest that HFCS and SUC have differential effects on lipid metabolism: while sucrose promotes obesogenesis, HFCS primarily enhances inflammation and insulin resistance, and ghrelin confers protective effects for these metabolic dysfunctions." https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28629187
"The effect of the 55% high-fructose corn syrup on the tested parameters of lipid metabolism was not equivalent to that of sucrose. Using HFCS-55 instead of sucrose has an adverse effect on blood lipid parameters, while weight gains and peri-organ fat deposits are comparable. Moreover, the obtained results confirm that tested animals were susceptible to the adverse effects of sugars added to their diet, even in small amounts. This emphasises the need to precisely control the amount of added sugars in the diet.' https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/287039634
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