High Fructose Corn Syrup is Bad?
Someone is telling me that some panel of doctors have concluded that hfcs leads to weight gain because the body deposits something from the hfcs into the fat cells; and then the body can’t burn the fat cells up, or the body can’t ever get rid of the chemical or whatever it is that’s deposited. Sounds like a bunch of total hogwash to me, the same kind of stuff I’ve heard many times over by people who are just trying to make money off of their nonsense. I’m interested in hearing what anyone here knows about this topic.
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Food fright is bad. I think anything in moderation is just fine.9
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In what does and overall dietary context?1
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It sounds like a bunch of hogwash to me too
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I would want to know where exactly they heard this and which panel of doctors and whether or not they could link me to an article or study about it, because it sounds like utter nonsense and the only question is whether they're misinterpreting a study or getting their information from crackpot sites. Either way I'd ignore it, I'd just want to know if I should also ignore everything else they say as well.3
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Everybody's an expert.
I've pretty much added, "Diet and nutrition," to the list of things I don't get into discussions about. I do a lot of nodding and, "Huh," when someone starts.
Or I say, "How 'bout them Yankees?!"5 -
i am not sure of the science behind High Fructose though it is meant to make you eat more which is why in many restaurants they will give you something that includes that prior to serving your meal.18
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I think your assessment is correct.
There is a lot of fearmongering out there about various foods. HFCS is a type of sugar. Barring any sugar-related medical conditions you may have, the main "danger" from HFCS and many other sugars is that people who aren't tracking their food often don't realize how many calories they're taking in, and HFCS is often used in things like sodas that are easy to consume in large quantities. The scientific consensus at this point seems to be that overconsumption of high-calorie, sugary foods is the problem, not a specific type of sugar. Wikipedia actually has a good discussion of the existing studies, with citations of the peer-reviewed papers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-fructose_corn_syrup
If the person you're talking to can't be more specific than "some panel," "something from the HCFS," etc., then that's a good clue it's BS.4 -
^ [citation needed]bostonjim23 wrote: »i am not sure of the science behind High Fructose though it is meant to make you eat more which is why in many restaurants they will give you something that includes that prior to serving your meal.
The molecular structure of HFCS is virtually identical to that of sucrose (sugar). There's nothing insidious about it. It sounds like this "panel of doctors" are a bunch of fearmongerers - probably with books, products or diet plans to sell.
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You mean the corrupt food manufacturing companies who are making money off people by selling highly addictive foods? Food that's made in labs with people wearing white coats. Yeah I know most of the people on here can control themselves with these foods but there are millions of people who can't! These companies manufacture foods in such a way that it's irresistible and you can't stop eating. So sick of HFCS being put in everything. Yes it is bad for you. If you want to have it fine, but don't pretend it's good for you.23
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bostonjim23 wrote: »i am not sure of the science behind High Fructose though it is meant to make you eat more which is why in many restaurants they will give you something that includes that prior to serving your meal.
"Meant" by who? What is the source for this?
What restaurants are you talking about?4 -
Please explain exactly why/how it's bad for you. I'm sure that would be extremely helpful for the OP.You mean the corrupt food manufacturing companies who are making money off people by selling highly addictive foods? Food that's made in labs with people wearing white coats. Yeah I know most of the people on here can control themselves with these foods but there are millions of people who can't! These companies manufacture foods in such a way that it's irresistible and you can't stop eating. So sick of HFCS being put in everything. Yes it is bad for you. If you want to have it fine, but don't pretend it's good for you.7 -
You mean the corrupt food manufacturing companies who are making money off people by selling highly addictive foods? Food that's made in labs with people wearing white coats. Yeah I know most of the people on here can control themselves with these foods but there are millions of people who can't! These companies manufacture foods in such a way that it's irresistible and you can't stop eating. So sick of HFCS being put in everything. Yes it is bad for you. If you want to have it fine, but don't pretend it's good for you.
A friend of mine dated a food scientist once. Lab coat and all. He was in charge of developing new sprinkles and we got to test a lot of them. If he'd made them more addictive maybe they wouldn't have broken up.19 -
You mean the corrupt food manufacturing companies who are making money off people by selling highly addictive foods? Food that's made in labs with people wearing white coats. Yeah I know most of the people on here can control themselves with these foods but there are millions of people who can't! These companies manufacture foods in such a way that it's irresistible and you can't stop eating. So sick of HFCS being put in everything. Yes it is bad for you. If you want to have it fine, but don't pretend it's good for you.
My home is full of foods that don't have HFCS in them. When people complain about it being in everything, I have no idea what they're talking about.
How, exactly, is it bad for you?10 -
Someone is telling me that some panel of doctors have concluded that hfcs leads to weight gain because the body deposits something from the hfcs into the fat cells; and then the body can’t burn the fat cells up, or the body can’t ever get rid of the chemical or whatever it is that’s deposited. Sounds like a bunch of total hogwash to me, the same kind of stuff I’ve heard many times over by people who are just trying to make money off of their nonsense. I’m interested in hearing what anyone here knows about this topic.
I do know there is a correlation with high intake of hfcs and fatty liver, but it might have something to do with the lifestyles people who drinks lots of regular sodas live. Most are inactive and most generally have some type of metabolic syndrome. So whether its the hfcs or the other factors?
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janejellyroll wrote: »You mean the corrupt food manufacturing companies who are making money off people by selling highly addictive foods? Food that's made in labs with people wearing white coats. Yeah I know most of the people on here can control themselves with these foods but there are millions of people who can't! These companies manufacture foods in such a way that it's irresistible and you can't stop eating. So sick of HFCS being put in everything. Yes it is bad for you. If you want to have it fine, but don't pretend it's good for you.
My home is full of foods that don't have HFCS in them. When people complain about it being in everything, I have no idea what they're talking about.
Poetic license?3 -
You mean the corrupt food manufacturing companies who are making money off people by selling highly addictive foods? Food that's made in labs with people wearing white coats. Yeah I know most of the people on here can control themselves with these foods but there are millions of people who can't don't! These companies manufacture foods in such a way that it's irresistible and you can't stop eating. So sick of HFCS being put in everything. Yes it is bad for you. If you want to have it fine, but don't pretend it's good for you.
FIFY. It's called personal accountability.10 -
bostonjim23 wrote: »i am not sure of the science behind High Fructose though it is meant to make you eat more which is why in many restaurants they will give you something that includes that prior to serving your meal.
What restaurants are you going to? The freebie starters in restaurants I've been in have tended to be good quality bread, breadsticks, or rolls, with olive oil or butter; or tortilla chips and salsa. In many cases, those won't include HFCS or high fructose anything, and in those few cases where those do have a bit of fructose (from the tomatoes in the salsa (1.7g fructose per tomato), for example, or corn syrup in the bread (quite unusual), those foods are far from an efficient delivery mechanism for this appetite-inducing magical "High Fructose". They're trivial sources, at most.
Lots of alcoholic drinks include fructose in some form, and most soda pop certainly does . . . but those are things we order, not things the restaurant gives us. In fact, those "High Fructose" things provide a major portion of many restaurants' profits, because the markup is so high.4 -
You mean the corrupt food manufacturing companies who are making money off people by selling highly addictive foods? Food that's made in labs with people wearing white coats. Yeah I know most of the people on here can control themselves with these foods but there are millions of people who can't! These companies manufacture foods in such a way that it's irresistible and you can't stop eating. So sick of HFCS being put in everything. Yes it is bad for you. If you want to have it fine, but don't pretend it's good for you.
I've looked high and low in hundreds of grocery stores and I still cannot find any of this extra yummy/addictive food that was created in a lab. Can someone tell me which store carries this magical stuff? But, maybe you shouldn't, 'cause I probably won't be able to stop myself from just sitting on the floor right there, stuffing my face full./s
I have no idea where this notion that there is such a thing as "fake food" came from. Everything you can eat, drink, touch or breathe is made up of chemicals. A food manufacturer can certainly make things more tasty by adding sugar or cream or salt but that doesn't make it somehow more addictive. It just tastes better. You might have a problem with not being able to control your eating, but that's not the foods fault. If you don't want HFCS in your food, shop until you find something without it or prepare your own.7 -
You mean the corrupt food manufacturing companies who are making money off people by selling highly addictive foods? Food that's made in labs with people wearing white coats. Yeah I know most of the people on here can control themselves with these foods but there are millions of people who can't! These companies manufacture foods in such a way that it's irresistible and you can't stop eating. So sick of HFCS being put in everything. Yes it is bad for you. If you want to have it fine, but don't pretend it's good for you.
Shame on those companies for making food that tastes good so people want to eat it! What a terrible business model!
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LOL. Did you even read that before you linked to it?:...At this time, there's insufficient evidence to say that high-fructose corn syrup is any less healthy than other types of sweeteners...13 -
You mean the corrupt food manufacturing companies who are making money off people by selling highly addictive foods? Food that's made in labs with people wearing white coats. Yeah I know most of the people on here can control themselves with these foods but there are millions of people who can't don't! These companies manufacture foods in such a way that it's irresistible and you can't stop eating. So sick of HFCS being put in everything. Yes it is bad for you. If you want to have it fine, but don't pretend it's good for you.
FIFY. It's called personal accountability.
Both of my parents have diabetes so I think I know what I'm talking about. I know it's personal accountability, but it is seriously soooo addictive for some people. I've seen it with my own eyes.13 -
You mean the corrupt food manufacturing companies who are making money off people by selling highly addictive foods? Food that's made in labs with people wearing white coats. Yeah I know most of the people on here can control themselves with these foods but there are millions of people who can't! These companies manufacture foods in such a way that it's irresistible and you can't stop eating. So sick of HFCS being put in everything. Yes it is bad for you. If you want to have it fine, but don't pretend it's good for you.
I thought corn grew in fields and not in labs?
Must be some huge labs hidden away somewhere.....9 -
LOL. Did you even read that before you linked to it?:...At this time, there's insufficient evidence to say that high-fructose corn syrup is any less healthy than other types of sweeteners...
And it was such a short article you couldn't miss that. And it says HFCS is common in sweetened drinks, so ummm... not "everything".6 -
You mean the corrupt food manufacturing companies who are making money off people by selling highly addictive foods? Food that's made in labs with people wearing white coats. Yeah I know most of the people on here can control themselves with these foods but there are millions of people who can't don't! These companies manufacture foods in such a way that it's irresistible and you can't stop eating. So sick of HFCS being put in everything. Yes it is bad for you. If you want to have it fine, but don't pretend it's good for you.
FIFY. It's called personal accountability.
Both of my parents have diabetes so I think I know what I'm talking about. I know it's personal accountability, but it is seriously soooo addictive for some people. I've seen it with my own eyes.
Your parents might have problems with self-control, but that's on them, not the food companies. There is nothing addictive about HFCS.11 -
"Research has shown that high-fructose corn syrup is chemically similar to table sugar . . . At this time, there's insufficient evidence to say that high-fructose corn syrup is any less healthy than other types of sweeteners."
This is your *supporting* source?7 -
@AnvilHead i am not sure if your familiar with Boston though any place that serves popover's normal have a dipping sauce which has High Fructose Corn Syrup in it. I have also been to restaurants where they would serve pecan rolls prior to eating your meal.6
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You mean the corrupt food manufacturing companies who are making money off people by selling highly addictive foods? Food that's made in labs with people wearing white coats. Yeah I know most of the people on here can control themselves with these foods but there are millions of people who can't don't! These companies manufacture foods in such a way that it's irresistible and you can't stop eating. So sick of HFCS being put in everything. Yes it is bad for you. If you want to have it fine, but don't pretend it's good for you.
FIFY. It's called personal accountability.
Both of my parents have diabetes so I think I know what I'm talking about. I know it's personal accountability, but it is seriously soooo addictive for some people. I've seen it with my own eyes.
Your experiences with two individuals don't qualify you to make sweeping generalizations about millions of people.4 -
bostonjim23 wrote: »@AnvilHead i am not sure if your familiar with Boston though any place that serves popover's normal have a dipping sauce which has High Fructose Corn Syrup in it.
Maybe your post should have made it clear you were talking about a regional thing and not something that people encounter generally.4 -
bostonjim23 wrote: »@AnvilHead i am not sure if your familiar with Boston though any place that serves popover's normal have a dipping sauce which has High Fructose Corn Syrup in it.
Okay, if you say so....but not sure why you tagged me on that one.1
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