Is Keto Worth it?
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CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »Keto works fullstop. Been on it for 6 weeks, around 200 cals over MFP a day, lost 15 pound and gained maybe 2 pound of muscle in the gym because I know how. Tons of energy. Fast results. 0.7gms protein per lb is plenty. Plus my daily alcohol intake hasnt changed
because keto only counts alcoholic drinks that contain carbs. Sweet!
still in a deficit if losing weight whether you are over 200 calories on mfp or not. that would mean that your TDEE may be higher than it was if you lost 15 lbs in 6 weeks thats a .33 lb a day deficit which means a little over a 2 lbs a week(over a 1000 calorie deficit weekly) not counting water and glycogen lost at the beginning.
No, not in a deficit. 6 to 800 cals a day in alcohol(sometimes more because I like it) with a 1650 MFP recommendation and Im not starving myself, just counting carbs. Its not CICO. Theres way more to it than that. Theres metabolism to contend with (which can change with lifestyle)and exercise intensity which MFP cant take into account. Ive been running, doing weights and adding the calories of exercise to my chart. Dosnt add up but, based on experience, I never expected it to.
Did you get the 1650 recommendation by selecting 2lb a week rate of loss?
Because guess what - that would be giving you daily 1,000 cal deficit - even more if you don't eat back exercise calories.
"no, no not in a deficit" is really "yes, yes I'm in a huge deficit". Go to a TDEE calculator and then compare that result with your intake to give you an idea.
You also don't understand that CICO is not the same thing as calorie counting, it's an expression of calorie balance not the method to manage that balance and everyone is subject to CICO.11 -
It was worth it for me. My doctor recommended it for health reasons. Since starting keto I have lost about 78 pounds, but more importantly am no longer showing signs of insulin resistance, no longer pre-diabetic, no longer needing medication to control my BP, no more reflux and no more joint pain. Keto is not for everyone. but works for me. One cookie will not make all the weight go back on, but will make you feel a bit unwell for a while as your gut flora will change and you will not process sugar and starch very well.7
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I do low carb instead of keto and I have lost and kept off 72lbs. I still have 25 to 30 to go . I found the high fat in keto to hard to do and the carbs way to low, but what ever you do good luck.4
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Keto works fullstop. Been on it for 6 weeks, around 200 cals over MFP a day, lost 15 pound and gained maybe 2 pound of muscle in the gym because I know how. Tons of energy. Fast results. 0.7gms protein per lb is plenty. Plus my daily alcohol intake hasnt changed because keto only counts alcoholic drinks that contain carbs. Sweet!
Only if you are taking a ton of drugs and even then, I would love to see your DEXA scans as proof.... Half your calories in alcohol is not going to give yourself a lot of room for protein.14 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »johnslater461 wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »Inspiration15 wrote: »I am CONSIDERING Keto. It seems so drastic to me. If you eat a cookie the weight will come back. Anyone successful on this? Was it hard?
Drastic to me means doing a WOE that leads from health to Type 2 Diabetes.
Keto has never been a weight loss program but a WOE for people fighting a premature death due to health failure from any causes.
Please stop making unsubstantiated medical claims.
What do you see as the least common denominator cause of premature death due due to health failure?
Simple, obesity, lack of exercise, smoking, family history (genetics), and drinking are the biggest factors. So if you are trying to prolong life, I hope you are in a healthy weight, exercise daily for 30 minutes or more a day, limit smoking and drinking, and if you really want to decrease risk, than almost limit processed foods. So the question is Gale, since you preach why you did Keto, how many of these do you also do?
Also, you should stop confusing treatment vs prevention. There is a significant difference between the two.
OP, the issue I have with keto (and luckily I only do it 4 days a week with 2 days of carb refeeds) is the lack of volume, it limits a ton of extremely healthy foods, and it limits a ton of variety.
And as some alluded to, it really comes down to what you can sustain. If you want, tailor down your carbs a bit to see what kind of restriction you have. And then slowly move to around 50g. In the end, if you find it difficult to hit those carb levels, than it's going to be very difficult to sustain.
The least common denominator in about 85% of premature death due to health failure first starts with failing mitochondria count and health. The way I move, eat and think are geared to increasing my quality and quantity of my brown fat.
siimland.com/ketosis-and-mitochondria/
"The Ketogenic Diet and Mitochondrial Density
Increasing mitochondrial density should fundamentally start with nutrition.
The ketogenic diet is the best one for mitochondria not only because of using fat for fuel but also because of its many protective aspects against oxidative stress.
Ketosis reduces the amount of epileptic seizures people get
Ketosis maintains healthy brain cells and prevents them from dying
Alzheimer’s is now referred to as type-3 diabetes or basically insulin resistance in the brain.
Mitochondrial dysfunction caused by oxidative stress is linked to aging, cancer, autism and many other diseases
The mitochondria are surrounded by a functional membrane which gets built by the fat you eat
Using ketone bodies for energy releases more acetyl-CoA, which then gets directed back to the Krebs Cycle to be produced for energy again."
If you are willing to take advice from an anthropologist, you are more than welcome to believe it. Also, if you want to increase your chances of living long (like statistically), start to exercise (a 1/4 mile walk isn't enough), lose a bit more weight since you are at the top end of acceptable, and stop eating McDonalds 3-4x a week.19 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »I think keto is amazing it's hard work for sure because it's not as simple as taking out carbs it's watching sugars ect even beetroot I was shot down on a keto page for being keto I've been in ketosis before and I lost so much that has stayed off but it did mess with my lady time!! I'd defo give it a try that is the reason tho I'm no longer in ketosis for my hormones it was too much hassle for me xx
you lost weight due to a deficit. even with keto you have to have a deficit. you can gain weight doing keto. many have. if you lost a lot at a fast rate and it messed with your period I would say your calorie deficit was too steep. many do keto for pcos (which helps some with their period) too much of a deficit or too low of calories can mess with your period. so Im thinking that may have been the isue.
The reason it messed with my period was due to estrogen being released when my fuel burn turned to fat,!! I was burning fat to quickly and have found the bleeding issue quite common on those on the combined pill and in ketosis, my personal opinion is keto can be very worth it and rewarding but it's personal experience whether it works for you or not no one can tell you 100% what something does or will do!! I think some diets are crap in comparison to others but who am I to tell that person they shouldn't do it!? Or tell them what's happening to their body!! It may work for them we are different7 -
Keto_Vampire wrote: »
Apparently, you're not a 'man' if you can't drink all night without getting drunk. A high alcohol tolerance is one of the benchmarks of a potential alcoholic, so I think you're good.
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CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »I think keto is amazing it's hard work for sure because it's not as simple as taking out carbs it's watching sugars ect even beetroot I was shot down on a keto page for being keto I've been in ketosis before and I lost so much that has stayed off but it did mess with my lady time!! I'd defo give it a try that is the reason tho I'm no longer in ketosis for my hormones it was too much hassle for me xx
you lost weight due to a deficit. even with keto you have to have a deficit. you can gain weight doing keto. many have. if you lost a lot at a fast rate and it messed with your period I would say your calorie deficit was too steep. many do keto for pcos (which helps some with their period) too much of a deficit or too low of calories can mess with your period. so Im thinking that may have been the isue.
The reason it messed with my period was due to estrogen being released when my fuel burn turned to fat,!! I was burning fat to quickly and have found the bleeding issue quite common on those on the combined pill and in ketosis, my personal opinion is keto can be very worth it and rewarding but it's personal experience whether it works for you or not no one can tell you 100% what something does or will do!! I think some diets are crap in comparison to others but who am I to tell that person they shouldn't do it!? Or tell them what's happening to their body!! It may work for them we are different
https://popsci.com/when-you-lose-weight-your-fat-cells-release-more-than-just-fat
"But adipose cells release all the other molecules they've hoarded, too. That includes key hormones like estrogen, along with fat-soluble vitamins and any organic pollutants that found their way into your bloodstream as you gained weight."
Many things leads to all kinds of changes when we lose weight regardless how we do it. Best of success.16 -
Nope. Only a theory. Science is still unsure of the underlying root cause of Alzheimers. Other possible factors are chronic inflammation although this may be a result of the disease process and not a cause. Viruses such as herpes are also being investigated. https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2018/09/09/645629133/infectious-theory-of-alzheimers-disease-draws-fresh-interestGaleHawkins wrote: »Ketosis reduces the amount of epileptic seizures people get
Ketosis maintains healthy brain cells and prevents them from dying
Alzheimer’s is now referred to as type-3 diabetes or basically insulin resistance in the brain.
Mitochondrial dysfunction caused by oxidative stress is linked to aging, cancer, autism and many other diseases
The mitochondria are surrounded by a functional membrane which gets built by the fat you eat
Using ketone bodies for energy releases more acetyl-CoA, which then gets directed back to the Krebs Cycle to be produced for energy again."
There was a popular internet case where a ketogenic diet was used to for his Alzheimers and seemed to slow the progression, but he eventually succumbed to the disease.
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GaleHawkins wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »johnslater461 wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »Inspiration15 wrote: »I am CONSIDERING Keto. It seems so drastic to me. If you eat a cookie the weight will come back. Anyone successful on this? Was it hard?
Drastic to me means doing a WOE that leads from health to Type 2 Diabetes.
Keto has never been a weight loss program but a WOE for people fighting a premature death due to health failure from any causes.
Please stop making unsubstantiated medical claims.
What do you see as the least common denominator cause of premature death due due to health failure?
Simple, obesity, lack of exercise, smoking, family history (genetics), and drinking are the biggest factors. So if you are trying to prolong life, I hope you are in a healthy weight, exercise daily for 30 minutes or more a day, limit smoking and drinking, and if you really want to decrease risk, than almost limit processed foods. So the question is Gale, since you preach why you did Keto, how many of these do you also do?
Also, you should stop confusing treatment vs prevention. There is a significant difference between the two.
OP, the issue I have with keto (and luckily I only do it 4 days a week with 2 days of carb refeeds) is the lack of volume, it limits a ton of extremely healthy foods, and it limits a ton of variety.
And as some alluded to, it really comes down to what you can sustain. If you want, tailor down your carbs a bit to see what kind of restriction you have. And then slowly move to around 50g. In the end, if you find it difficult to hit those carb levels, than it's going to be very difficult to sustain.
The least common denominator in about 85% of premature death due to health failure first starts with failing mitochondria count and health. The way I move, eat and think are geared to increasing my quality and quantity of my brown fat.
siimland.com/ketosis-and-mitochondria/
"The Ketogenic Diet and Mitochondrial Density
Increasing mitochondrial density should fundamentally start with nutrition.
The ketogenic diet is the best one for mitochondria not only because of using fat for fuel but also because of its many protective aspects against oxidative stress.
Ketosis reduces the amount of epileptic seizures people get
Ketosis maintains healthy brain cells and prevents them from dying
Alzheimer’s is now referred to as type-3 diabetes or basically insulin resistance in the brain.
Mitochondrial dysfunction caused by oxidative stress is linked to aging, cancer, autism and many other diseases
The mitochondria are surrounded by a functional membrane which gets built by the fat you eat
Using ketone bodies for energy releases more acetyl-CoA, which then gets directed back to the Krebs Cycle to be produced for energy again."
If you are willing to take advice from an anthropologist, you are more than welcome to believe it. Also, if you want to increases your chances of living long (like statistically), start to exercise (a 1/4 mile walk isn't enough), lose a bit more weight since you are at the top end of acceptable, and stop eating McDonalds 3-4x a week.
[url="httphttps://www.honeycolony.com/article/mitochondrial-disease-its-not-your-genes-that-determine-your-fate/://"]httphttps://honeycolony.com/article/mitochondrial-disease-its-not-your-genes-that-determine-your-fate/://[/url]
Microbial residents, known as mitochondria, have become essential parts of our own biology.
Mitochondrial Disease plays a major role when it comes to serious health conditions, including aging. It’s unbelievable that up until the turn of the century, we knew little about the mitochondria, even though these tiny, peanut-shaped miniature organs (organelles) found at the center of our cells are responsible for fueling us with energy and dictating how vibrant and healthy we are. These organelles produce the energy we need for every single physical, mental, and emotional function.
How many times have we heard the phrase “it’s all in the genes?” It sounds cute as an offhand joke when, let’s say, a young child starts playing the same sport as their parent. However, a lifetime of hearing our relatives and medical caregivers tell us that our disease risk is “in the genes” is very disempowering and misleading.
A life is priceless, and the financial cost of chronic illness is staggering. Between 2012 to 2015, heart failure cost $108 billion, diabetes cost $1.5 trillion, and dementia an astounding $818 billion, worldwide. In the USA alone, cancer cost $135 billion.
People are dying from these diseases. There’s a belief that our genes dictate our health and longevity, but what if the true primary cause is something else? Something we have power over? As discussed by Nature Builds Health, “most disease actually starts in what is called ‘mitochondria’ … by improving your mitochondria function, you can even lower your chances for getting certain diseases”."
Maybe this source is more to your taste as you read about the newly found least common denominator in premature death in humans.15 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »johnslater461 wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »Inspiration15 wrote: »I am CONSIDERING Keto. It seems so drastic to me. If you eat a cookie the weight will come back. Anyone successful on this? Was it hard?
Drastic to me means doing a WOE that leads from health to Type 2 Diabetes.
Keto has never been a weight loss program but a WOE for people fighting a premature death due to health failure from any causes.
Please stop making unsubstantiated medical claims.
What do you see as the least common denominator cause of premature death due due to health failure?
Simple, obesity, lack of exercise, smoking, family history (genetics), and drinking are the biggest factors. So if you are trying to prolong life, I hope you are in a healthy weight, exercise daily for 30 minutes or more a day, limit smoking and drinking, and if you really want to decrease risk, than almost limit processed foods. So the question is Gale, since you preach why you did Keto, how many of these do you also do?
Also, you should stop confusing treatment vs prevention. There is a significant difference between the two.
OP, the issue I have with keto (and luckily I only do it 4 days a week with 2 days of carb refeeds) is the lack of volume, it limits a ton of extremely healthy foods, and it limits a ton of variety.
And as some alluded to, it really comes down to what you can sustain. If you want, tailor down your carbs a bit to see what kind of restriction you have. And then slowly move to around 50g. In the end, if you find it difficult to hit those carb levels, than it's going to be very difficult to sustain.
The least common denominator in about 85% of premature death due to health failure first starts with failing mitochondria count and health. The way I move, eat and think are geared to increasing my quality and quantity of my brown fat.
siimland.com/ketosis-and-mitochondria/
"The Ketogenic Diet and Mitochondrial Density
Increasing mitochondrial density should fundamentally start with nutrition.
The ketogenic diet is the best one for mitochondria not only because of using fat for fuel but also because of its many protective aspects against oxidative stress.
Ketosis reduces the amount of epileptic seizures people get
Ketosis maintains healthy brain cells and prevents them from dying
Alzheimer’s is now referred to as type-3 diabetes or basically insulin resistance in the brain.
Mitochondrial dysfunction caused by oxidative stress is linked to aging, cancer, autism and many other diseases
The mitochondria are surrounded by a functional membrane which gets built by the fat you eat
Using ketone bodies for energy releases more acetyl-CoA, which then gets directed back to the Krebs Cycle to be produced for energy again."
If you are willing to take advice from an anthropologist, you are more than welcome to believe it. Also, if you want to increases your chances of living long (like statistically), start to exercise (a 1/4 mile walk isn't enough), lose a bit more weight since you are at the top end of acceptable, and stop eating McDonalds 3-4x a week.
[url="httphttps://www.honeycolony.com/article/mitochondrial-disease-its-not-your-genes-that-determine-your-fate/://"]httphttps://honeycolony.com/article/mitochondrial-disease-its-not-your-genes-that-determine-your-fate/://[/url]
Microbial residents, known as mitochondria, have become essential parts of our own biology.
Mitochondrial Disease plays a major role when it comes to serious health conditions, including aging. It’s unbelievable that up until the turn of the century, we knew little about the mitochondria, even though these tiny, peanut-shaped miniature organs (organelles) found at the center of our cells are responsible for fueling us with energy and dictating how vibrant and healthy we are. These organelles produce the energy we need for every single physical, mental, and emotional function.
How many times have we heard the phrase “it’s all in the genes?” It sounds cute as an offhand joke when, let’s say, a young child starts playing the same sport as their parent. However, a lifetime of hearing our relatives and medical caregivers tell us that our disease risk is “in the genes” is very disempowering and misleading.
A life is priceless, and the financial cost of chronic illness is staggering. Between 2012 to 2015, heart failure cost $108 billion, diabetes cost $1.5 trillion, and dementia an astounding $818 billion, worldwide. In the USA alone, cancer cost $135 billion.
People are dying from these diseases. There’s a belief that our genes dictate our health and longevity, but what if the true primary cause is something else? Something we have power over? As discussed by Nature Builds Health, “most disease actually starts in what is called ‘mitochondria’ … by improving your mitochondria function, you can even lower your chances for getting certain diseases”."
Maybe this source is more to your taste as you read about the newly found least common denominator in premature death in humans.
Not a scientific resource either, but thanks for playing.
Protip: if the site you link to is selling something (especially supplements) they can't be trusted as reliable.14 -
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johnslater461 wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »Lillymoo01 wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »Lillymoo01 wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »Lillymoo01 wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »cerise_noir wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »Inspiration15 wrote: »I am CONSIDERING Keto. It seems so drastic to me. If you eat a cookie the weight will come back. Anyone successful on this? Was it hard?
Drastic to me means doing a WOE that leads from health to Type 2 Diabetes.
Keto has never been a weight loss program but a WOE for people fighting a premature death due to health failure from any causes. For me it is pain manage first of all then to try and prevent cataracts, heart disease and cancer but not necessarily in that order.
Prevents heart disease and cancer? Any legit sources to back this up? Gee, I wish I could have told my mom and dad about keto before they died..........
*sigh*
@cerise_noir sorry about your parents I know I wish I knew about Keto the way I do today before my parents died of CHF in 1994 and breast cancer in 1999 when each were only 72. The good news for us today we know so much more about the positive health impact from Keto WOE's and now we all can share this with our families.
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/eci.12591
"Figure 3 Mitochondrial effects of ketogenic diets. Ketogenic
diets are used in the treatment of several diseases, such as
epilepsy, Alzheimer’s disease, Parkinson’s disease,
amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, cancer and brain trauma. Ketone
bodies such as acetoacetate (AA) and b-hydroxybutyrate (bOHB)
lead to decreases in oxidative stress and improvements
in mitochondrial biogenesis and mitochondrial function.
Ketogenic diets may also induce a heteroplasmic shift,
reducing pathogenic mutations on mitochondrial DNA
(mtDNA).
Do you seriously believe that? That your parents would have lived longer simply by eating keto? That keto is the be all and end all of preventing or curing every medical illness? I'd suggest you step away from Fung et al and start looking at what peer-reviewed science says instead because if people that are gullible enough to believe what you write you could be causing them long-term damage.
I think you know that I did not write the above posted link. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/eci.12591
"Ketogenic diets: from cancer to mitochondrial diseases
and beyond
Ana F. Branco*,a, Andre Ferreira *,a, Rui F. Simoes* ~ ,a, Sılvia Magalhaes-Novais ~ *, Cheryl Zehowski†
,
Elisabeth Cope‡
, Ana Marta Silva*, Daniela Pereira*, Vilma A. Sardao~ * and Teresa Cunha-Oliveira*
*
CNC – Center for Neuroscience and Cell Biology, University of Coimbra, Coimbra, Portugal, †
Department of Biomedical
Sciences, University of Minnesota Medical School, Duluth, MN, ‡
Department of Applied Medical Sciences, University of
Southern Maine, Portland, ME, USA
Actually, I read it and as far as the cancer link goes it is very much inconclusive with many mixed results. As quoted from the article:
"Interestingly, mice fed a restricted standard diet displayed the same beneficial outcomes as mice fed the restricted ketogenic diet...these results cast doubt on whether the positive effects were mediated by carbohydrate or caloric restriction"
pssstt ... studies on humans have actually shown that a diet low in fat is most effective with slowing the growth of breast cancer cells so keto would not have helped your mother in the slightest.
The only thing that keto has been proven to help with are neurological disorders.
And Type 2 diabetes, etc.
It can but, for the most part, the best-proven treatment for type 2 diabetes is to reduce your weight and increase your exercise. Many have had the same results for managing diabetes on much higher carb and lower fat diets. Some even see great success with a standard vegan diet. If keto was the best, or only treatment it would be the most recommended one by diabetes organisations around the world.
In my case Keto sure reduced my weight and enabled me to increase my exercise due to my pain relief and 30 years of IBS resolving. BG fasting levels went into the non diabetic range thankfully.
All due to weight loss. You have zero evidence otherwise
Spouting keto aa a cure all is unfounded, and frankly, irresponsible.
Please stop
Exactly. This right here. That’s was the point of my sarcasm a few posts up. My mother’s heart disease wouldn’t have been cured. It was hereditary. She had it for 30 years before she died. Dads cancer was very sudden and aggressive. I highly doubt keto would have helped/improved both cases.4 -
No, not in a deficit. 6 to 800 cals a day in alcohol(sometimes more because I like it) with a 1650 MFP recommendation and Im not starving myself, just counting carbs. Its not CICO. Theres way more to it than that. Theres metabolism to contend with (which can change with lifestyle)and exercise intensity which MFP cant take into account. Ive been running, doing weights and adding the calories of exercise to my chart. Dosnt add up but, based on experience, I never expected it to.
It is a matter of internet tall-tale convenience that it doesn't add up - nothing more. I am fairly sure that counting your carbs as you drink them is not in the keto manifesto.7 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »
Microbial residents, known as mitochondria, have become essential parts of our own biology.
Mitochondrial Disease plays a major role when it comes to serious health conditions, including aging. It’s unbelievable that up until the turn of the century, we knew little about the mitochondria, even though these tiny, peanut-shaped miniature organs (organelles) found at the center of our cells are responsible for fueling us with energy and dictating how vibrant and healthy we are. These organelles produce the energy we need for every single physical, mental, and emotional function.
How many times have we heard the phrase “it’s all in the genes?” It sounds cute as an offhand joke when, let’s say, a young child starts playing the same sport as their parent. However, a lifetime of hearing our relatives and medical caregivers tell us that our disease risk is “in the genes” is very disempowering and misleading.
A life is priceless, and the financial cost of chronic illness is staggering. Between 2012 to 2015, heart failure cost $108 billion, diabetes cost $1.5 trillion, and dementia an astounding $818 billion, worldwide. In the USA alone, cancer cost $135 billion.
People are dying from these diseases. There’s a belief that our genes dictate our health and longevity, but what if the true primary cause is something else? Something we have power over? As discussed by Nature Builds Health, “most disease actually starts in what is called ‘mitochondria’ … by improving your mitochondria function, you can even lower your chances for getting certain diseases”."
Maybe this source is more to your taste as you read about the newly found least common denominator in premature death in humans.
This post is not written to @galehawkins. It is written to anyone reading this that might for a moment consider it credible.
It is really important to always analyze what is being written and not be confused when real facts (like the above medical costs which I assume are true) are mixed in with wild claims. This is a common tactic by snake oil salespeople. By throwing in true facts they hope to make you believe it is all true. It is not.
It is also important to remember that the placebo effect can be very powerful and so some people are true believers. Keep in mind that many people believe in the healing power of crystals too and they swear by their results.
If you are currently under medical care you need to stick with it. If you want to eat low carb, get some crystals, or try to get rid of thetans it is your right but don't stop medical treatments.18 -
Though I no longer enjoy my food and that makes me sad. Keto has been very effective for me. I do struggle with energy sometimes, and the food is tedious. But I am steady losing at least a pound or 2 a week. Previous to keto I did low calorie and workout, was stuck for at least 4 months with no loss. Since starting Keto/working out 3 months ago I have seen some loss every week. So it works, but it sucks. It has also helped immensely with my sugar cravings and my compulsive eating. Its very hard the first 3 weeks or so, but then you kinda accept that it is what it is and if you struggle with weight loss it does work.4
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I've waded through this quickly, no one seems to have said, the keto diet first came into being as a means to reduce epileptic fits in children, it worked. Other benefits followed. I can't remember the many medical sites I found this information on but I'm sure those who are more proficient in research than I, can easily establish the same facts were they to look. Its easy to close one's ears and say, Not True.10
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This is one of the real reasons that people lose weight on a keto diet. They just get tired of the limited menu and of eating the same foods everyday. So they start eating less of it. There is no magical appetite suppression.Though I no longer enjoy my food and that makes me sad. Keto has been very effective for me. I do struggle with energy sometimes, and the food is tedious.
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