JUST GIVE ME 10 DAYS - ROUND 53
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Is there a new one?
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Good afternoon
Mâle, 48yo
Round 49: SW 186 EW: 184.53 (1.47 lbs lost this round)
Round 50: SW 184.53 EW: 178.79 ( 5 .74 lbs lost this round)
Round 51: SW 178.79 EW: 175.92 lbs (2.87 lost this round)
Round 52: SW 175.92 lbs EW: 171.96 lbs (3.96 Lost this round)
Round 53: SW 171.96 lbs EW: 171.51 (0.45 lbs lost this round)
Total lost so far (all rounds) : 14, 04 lbs
My goal for this round: to see number 6 : To go Under 170 lbs
Day/Weight/Comment
9/15- 171.06 lbs (0.90 Lost) good start !
9/16- 172.62 lbs (1.56 gain) same pattern : good start- regression slowing down and hopefuly good finish
9/17- 173.06 lbs (0.44 gain)
9/18- 171.74 lbs (1.32 lost) back on track
9/19- 170.41 lbs (1.33 lost) yes!
9/20- 169.75 lbs (0.66 lbs lost) Cool i'm finally Under 170 lbs
9/21- 169.97 lbs (0.22 lbs gain)
9/22- 170.19 lbs (0.22 lbs gain)
9/23- 170.85 lbs (0.66 lbs gain) definitely its not my best round
9/24- 171.51 lbs (0.66 lbs gain)
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NYCDutchess wrote: »Is there a new one?
@NYCDutchess, Welcome! Yes, here is the link. Round 54 begins tomorrow. We'll see you there!
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10696922/just-give-me-10-days-round-54/p1?new=1
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12th Round for me: Female 65, height – 5’
I was away on holidays for the last round. Did not gain anything : smile Now that we’re back for the winter, I want to get in the routine of going to the gym and planning meals. I’m hoping that will kick up the loss and I can make it under 150 by Christmas.Round 39 (1st for me) – SW 163, loss -.2Round 53 – SW 159.8, goal this round – under 159
Round 40 – on holidays, gain +1.6
Round 41 – SW 164.4, loss -2
Round 42 - SW: 162.6, loss -.6
Round 43 – SW 162, loss -.4
Round 44 – SW 161.6, loss -1.6
Round 45 – SW 160.8, gain +1
Round 46 – SW 161.8, gain +.6
Round 47 – SW 162.4, loss -2.2
Round 48 – SW 160.2, missed most of this round and Round 49 as I was away without computer or scale.
Round 50 – SW 160.2, loss -.8
Round 51 – SW 160.8, loss -1
Round 52 – on holidays, no scale
Ultimate Goal Weight – 128
Day/Weight/Comment
9/15, Saturday – 159.8 Just got home on Thurs. so am still tired. Yesterday spent most of it catching up online – so bad for snacking. Today want to hit some bigger projects (a little canning, yard work) but still get in a nap. I find I can lose a whole week to tiredness after a trip – mindless eating and getting nothing done. Often I’ve maintained weight or lost on the trip but gain the first week back. Determined not to do that this time.
9/16 , Sunday – 159.2
9/17, Monday – 159.8 Ugh, Sundays our meals are always erratic so I feel like I haven’t eaten much but if I count it up I’m usually way over. Today it’s back to the winter routine with ladies’ a cappella group this evening. Usually I try to houseclean on Mondays but today the guy is here installing a new furnace so if it gets chilly I’m going shopping
9/18, Tuesday – 159.6
9/19, Wednesday – 159 I don’t feel like I deserve this but will take it. Got a Zap My Cravings email from Shrink Yourself last night and it stopped me in my tracks – so only had dessert not snacking all evening. I did Shrink Yourself for about 6 months a number of years ago. That is where I learned that you have two kinds of hunger – physical hunger and emotional hunger – and how to tell the difference. Of course the cravings come from emotional hunger. So the Zap My Cravings is going through a set of questions that help you realize what the real source of your craving is. I think I got the email because I was cleaning out old stuff and revisited their site a few months ago. I just might do it again. The emotional eating is always what does in my progress.
9/20, Thursday – 159.4 Last day of my “week-after-trip tiredness” and feel pretty good considering the ice cream last night. Usually I just eat ½ cup when I have it so the calorie count is not too bad but last night I’d kept going on clearing off the garden until late and felt I deserved more. Too much fat at night always makes me draggy in the morning. Looks pretty nice out today so back at it. I have so much yard work to do and company coming, it makes me feel overwhelmed (the real reason for the ice cream, I’d say). I guess I need to sit down and realize I won’t get it all done unless we have a very late fall and then prioritize the jobs. Also need to decide how much of my life it deserves so everything else doesn’t get shoved aside and then turn into its own emergency.
9/21
9/22, Saturday – 159.2 Made it to the gym yesterday, felt good to be back.
9/23, Sunday – 159.4
9/24, Monday – 159.4 Well, I didn’t gain which is amazing considering the evening munchies till the last few days. Today went to the gym again and no snacking the last 3 days so should see some results next round.
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I’d like to join the next round please! Let me know what to look for thanks
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My goal is to stay under my calorie goal, 1200, and to lose 3 pounds in this round. In all, I want to drop 55. I'm 5'6" and 185 lbs, so my goal is about 135. I'm trying to set small, realistic goals so that I can motivate myself with my successes.
In this round, I'm focusing on drinking about a gallon of water a day. I find that I eat more towards the end of the day when I'm tired, so I'm allowing myself NO after dinner snacks.
I'm a newbie here so sorry if I make any "new kid" mistakes. Thanks for the support and accountability, guys!
9/15 - I went only 35 calories over my goal, which is 1200 calories a day. I drank a gallon of water, too, which is good. Was out doing yard work in the sun all day so hopefully with the sweating and extra water intake, hopefully I'll lose some water weight!
9/16 - Forgot to weight myself today
. But I was 159 calories under my calorie goal, even though we had a potluck at my church and they had my favorite mouth-watering donuts for dessert. I made it, tho!
9/17 - 186. I hate the scale. Doesn’t make sense that I would have gained a pound, so I’m attributing it to water weight fluctuation and trying not to get to discouraged. 1,068 calories. 1 gallon of water.
9/18 - 185. So, I ate nothing but coffee and lunch meat all day cause my stomach felt upset, but late at night I was out and was STARVING, so I went to steak and shake, and, ahem. Ate about 1400 calories in one sitting. So I had a total of about 2200 calories. Oh, well.
9/19 - Ha. Weighed myself this morning and was 184, even though I binged last night. Funny how your body works! Drank 1 gallon of water and ate 1,035 calories. Feeling pretty good.
9/20 - Still 184. I guess at least I’m not gaining. Went 100 calories over my goal and only had 72 oz of water, but all in all I feel it’s been a good day. Starting Keto diet tomorrow so I’m hoping that will speed things up.
9/21 - Ugh. 184 again. Went only 35 calories over and stayed at 15 grams of carbs.
9/22 - 183! Maybe I won’t make it to 182 by the end of the round, but at least I will have lost something. Keto is going well, I had 17 grams of carbs and ate lots of protein and fat. 1,040 calories. 72 oz of water.
9/23 - 182!!! Hope this is real weight loss and I can keep it up. Ate 1,054 calories, but had 20 grams of carbs (didn’t realize how many vegetables have so many carbs in them!) 48 oz of water.
9/24 - Still 182! Hopefully this means this is real weight loss. Drank a gallon of water and ate 1,018 calories and only 10 grams of carbs.
So happy I made it to my goal weight this round. The encouragement and accountability has been an inspiration. See you in Round 54!7 -
R49/My 10th EW: 170.6 (-0.4) AW: 171
R50/My 11th EW: 172 (+1.4) AW: 170.6
R51/My 12th EW: 167.4 (-4.6) AW: 168.9
R52/My 13th EW: 170.0 (+2.6) AW: 169.5
R53/My 14th EW: 170.4 (-0.4)
Day/Weight/Comment
9/15: 170.8
9/16: 170.8
9/17: 169.8
9/18: 171.4; workout!
9/19: 170.4
9/20: 170.8; workout!
9/21: 170.4
9/22: 170
9/23: 169.4
9/24: 170.4 (-0.4)6 -
@DebCountsAll You lost weight again this round. This is the 4th ten day round in a row. You are doing great.2
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Round 52 SW: 204
Round 52 EW: 202
Goal: whatever these 10 days bring!
9/15- didn’t weigh in
9/16 -didn’t weigh in
9/17 - 201.5
9/18 - 201 - ok I can do this! Was just mindful of what I was eating again without beating myself up for a mini cupcake. I felt better overall
9/19 - 200.5- definitely thought it would be higher. I caught a bad cold (already!!!) and only craved salty things all day.
9/20 - 199 - wasn’t expecting that! I don’t even eat less when I’m sick. I’ll believe it if it keeps up tomorrow
9/21 - 197.5?!- no idea how that happened. I ate a doughnut yesterday and definitely wasn’t starving all day. They say that sometimes after 4-5 months of breastfeeding the weight starts melting off. Hopefully that’s just what’s happening! I’m not supposed to lose too much too fast for milk supply.. 🤞🏻
9/22 - 197.5
9/23 - 197.5
9/24 - 198 surprising since I’ve walked a lot more than normal over the previous 2 days... we shall see what happens next!4 -
Hi Everyone! My goals: finish the round .. at a lower number.
9/15 164.4 Besides getting trapped in that over eating mode at times ..I think sodium is my biggest foe.
9/16 164.2 Anything lower is good. Limited myself to 2 pieces of pizza. We will see?
9/17 164 It's lower. Thank you for the support .. this is a fabulous group of MFPers!!
9/18 165.0
9/19 164.2
9/20 164.2
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9/22 167.8 On the road food!
9/23 166.8
9/24 166.2
See you next round!!5 -
Day/Weight/Comment
9/15- The last two weeks lots of sickness in our family, today Birthday parties tomorrow back on track, last week healthy eating this week more exercise.
9/16- goal for next week increase exercise.
9/17- Trying to eat healthier. Did some yard work to try to keep active.
9/18-My neighbour gave me lots of organic vegetables, made a chicken stir -fry, veg. so good!
9/19- Sickness is still going around now my daughter and I have it. Doctors tomorrow.
9/20- I have a really deep cough/resting- went to the doctors today.
9/21-Super deep cough!
9/22- Starting to feel a lot better! Going to get back on track, especially exercise.
9/23- Walking steps have doubled. Eating healthy just have to get the veggies in.
9/24- Had a great day kept pushing myself to gain more walking steps, going up/down flights steps.
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I’m back in and a little late to this round! Been a rough few months and have gained back what I had lost. Had surgery and have been diagnosed with thyroid cancer. Knowing how the thyroid effects metabolism, I realize I’m in for an uphill battle. I love this challenge and appreciate the support and accountability that it offers!
UGW - 135-140lbs
Day/Weight
9/15 - ——
9/16 - 166.8lbs
9/17 - 166.1lbs
9/18 - 165.9lbs
9/19 - 164.8lbs
9/20 - 165.0lbs
9/21 - 164.5lbs
9/22 - 164.5lbs
9/23 - 163.9lbs
9/24 - 165.2lbs6 -
-65.7 lbs in 997 wdays, ONLY 3 days until my 1,000th day!
-42.4 since Sept 27, 2017 (362 days)
* Health!!! Focus on health! 🏃🏻♀️💪🏻💃🏆
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Round 34 to Round 52: 179.4 to 158 lbs
-21.4 lbs in 19 Rounds!
EW Round 52:
158 BMI:23.7 Trend: 159.3Loss/wk: 0.8
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You. ARE Healthier. Than. You. Ever. Thought. Possible. #Grateful,soGrateful🍀
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9/15 158 BMI 23.7 Trend:159.3 Loss/wk: 0.8
9/16 157.8!!! 23.6 158.1 0.9
I’m sure I’ll hit another plateau soon, but I’m enjoying this recent decrease. Measurements are going dow ! Size 14 skinny pants are loose...waiting until I am 150 lbs to get new ones. 7.8 lbs to go!
9/17158.6 23.8 158.1 0.8 8.6 lbs to go!
9/18 158.8 23.8 158.1 0.8 8.8 lbs to go!
Amazing medical lab results!!! Oh, Happy Day!! 🙏🏻🍀💞🌟 it’s all worth it. 😇
9/19 158.2 23.7 158.1 0.8. 8.2 lbs to go!
9/20 158 23.7 158 0.8 8 lbs to go!
Inches are disappearing, stronger, happier...thinking of venturing into a clothing store today to get something that actually fits 😃I was going to weight into
150 lbs, but I actually love wearing non-baggy clothes now! Wish me luck (I hate clothes shopping after decades of struggles in the dressing room.) Have a blessed day!
9/21 157.6 New Low! BMI: 23.6 Trend; 157.8 Loss/wk 0.8 7.8 lbs to go!
9/22 158.6 BMI: 23.8 Trend: 158 0.7 8.6 to
go!
Bouncing weight...Not sure why, but pleased with fitness & Sept wt loss. Trying different methods to assuage hunger...will just take me some time to figure out this “<24 BMI” new reality. Ankle hurting, so attempting to take my first Rest Day in over 6 months. We’ll see...
Thank you to all the great suggestions and positive approach in this group!
9/23157.2 BMI: 23.6 Trend: 157.7 0.8 7.2 lbs that go!! Actually 157.0 BMI: 23.5
• Ate within Energy burned throughout day
• reviewed my macro and micro data from past 7 months...realized there have been steady increases in carbs & dietary sugars, and whacked sugary/starchy carbs, dietary sugars, and calories down!!
• Drank lots of water 💦 & hot tea ☕
• Tried not to freak out & reminded myself I could find a solution to hunger
• And I didn’t wake up uncomfortably hungry!!!
• I think yesterday might have been the most important day of my weight loss so far. I was able to use all the data I’ve collected to help me. I was able to ride the hunger. I found a simple lunch (burger patty, thin slice cheese, fresh cooked peas, whole wheat pita) & dinner (pork, Apple, decaf nonfat latte) delicious even with lower or no starch/sweet.
• I have hope again!! I’m fighting this time to keep this healthy, strong body. 💞
9/24 162.6 (dressed, after broken arm trauma)
R53 GW: 157.8
Goals:
1. Steps for September > 8,500
September Average as of 9/16: 11,199 steps
9/17 11,557
9/18 12,198
9/19 12,215
9/20 10,165
9/21 11,554
9/22 10,335
9/23 19,239
2. 10-day trend ⬇, ➡, or ⬆ < 0.2
Status: 22/23 days
3. BMI Streak < = 23.8 is 55 days!
4. Get BMI to 23.5 or lower... 0.1 to go!!!!!!!!
5. STAY in the 150’s!!!
Round 51 3/10 days
Round 52 7/10 days
Round 53 9/10 days so far!!!!!!!!!!!
The PLAN !
Mini-goals:
Sep 22: 158.2
Sep 27157.8
⭐🌟⭐1,000th DAY!🌟⭐🌟
Oct 7: 156.8
Oct 19: 155.6
Oct 31: 154.6 🎃
Nov 12: 153.6
Nov 22: 152.6 🦃
Nov 28: 152
Dec 12: 151
Dec 24: 150 🎄
Jan 1, 2019 🎉
Maintenance Begins < 150 3⃣ YEARS❣
Jan 3, 10, 17, 24, 31, Feb 7:
Average wt under 150
Feb 14 ❤💕💋: under 150💋💕❤
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Jan 1, 2020 < 1505 -
@MadisonMolly2017 oh no, what happened?1
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Thank you @fraukazi
I went on a hike and suddenly found myself on back right shoulder. Hardest impact & most sudden that my body ever felt. Broke my upper right arm bone just below shoulder joint. See specialist tomorrow; spent 8 hours in ER & then DH spent 2 hours getting pain medication (24/7 wasn’t & a safe that only unlocks after 15 mins)
I think I won’t need surgery, but will find out for sure tomorrow.
How are you doing?5 -
Hi, again. I couldn't finish most of the challenges but I'm still around here. So, I hope this will be better and I'll finish it. Maybe I'll make it a confession of bad habits, however, I have to change things. Ok, here we go.
9/15 86.3 kg (190.2 lbs)
Yesterday I binged and ate junk food at night. I have some phrases of eating junk food 3-4 times in a year. I eat every day for a few weeks but then sick of it. I think it's time to sick of it. I'll be better, promise to myself. I'm just having so many anxious thoughts in my mind these days about work, Ph.D., relationships etc. Emotional/stress eating is my thing... I'm about to program my life these days and, diet and exercise are part of it.
9/16 86.4 kg (190.4 lbs) but after breakfast because I forgot weighing before
Confession is coming... I drank alcohol, one beer, one glass of wine and two shots of tequila. So I might be dehydrated. I also ate a brownie and pizza. However, I walked 15k steps. I hope today will be better.
9/17 85.9 kg (189.3 lbs)
Yay! No need to confess. I didn't binge, eat junk food or drink alcohol. And see the lower weight, that's what should I do. Actually yesterday I really wanted to eat dessert, but I didn't let myself. And also yesterday I bought myself a running shirt for myself which gives me motivation. I really like it and it's medium size and kinda fits me, normally I wear XL. Starting next week I'll be really busy, I think it'll be good for my diet, there'll be no time to eat. I realized that when I'm at home, I tend to binge. And this summer I was mostly at home so gained lost of weight. I believe myself, even I took a "before pic".
9/18 86.3 kg (190.2 lbs)
I was doing ok until I saw the carrot cake... However, all day I was on the streets walked 21k steps. But I should go to the gym. I haven't gone for a while. And also I shouldn't eat pasta for dinner, even I wasn't hungry that much... Ahh me...
9/19 86.8 kg (191.3 lbs)
This is the result of late dinner (with too many carbs) and a chocolate souffle. However, I went to the gym and exercised about 2 hours, I was really good at it. At least I exercised, right?
9/20 86.6 kg (190.9 lbs)
That's something... Actually until late night snack, which was emotional eating, everything was going great. Even for dinner, I ate a nice salad and I walked 10 k steps.
9/21 86.4 kg (190.4 lbs)
Yes, this is the right way. I was good yesterday, except I just ate (kinda) a little Nutella. I ate salad for dinner which is really important to me. Because the hardest part is dinner for me. I walked 8k steps, I was very tired at the evening so I couldn't go to the gym.
9/22 86.0 kg (189.5 lbs)
Yay! Yesterday was a good day, I just a little more at dinner. Because I want to reward myself, I know food shouldn't use this way but that's the best way. Whatever, one of my papers is accepted to a conference, so I was really happy and motivated. Even at night, I went to the gym.
9/23 86.0 kg (189.5 lbs)
I was expecting 85's but still it's good. I hope I'll finish the challenge with 85's. Yesterday was good actually, I didn't eat a lot, but most of them were carbs. However, I walked a lot with my heavy backpack. I didn't need to eat dinner I just drank smoothie, I should do that more.
9/24 86.2 kg (190 lbs)
OK, at least I finished the challenge and I didn't gain. I wasn't good enough to lose weight anyway... I hope next 10 days will be better for me.5 -
MadisonMolly2017 wrote: »Thank you @fraukazi
I went on a hike and suddenly found myself on back right shoulder. Hardest impact & most sudden that my body ever felt. Broke my upper right arm bone just below shoulder joint. See specialist tomorrow; spent 8 hours in ER & then DH spent 2 hours getting pain medication (24/7 wasn’t & a safe that only unlocks after 15 mins)
I think I won’t need surgery, but will find out for sure tomorrow.
How are you doing?
Oh wow, that's such a bummer! Fingers crossed that no surgery will be required and you have a quick recovery.
I'm ok, this whole work drama will be over soon as I've decided to just leave at the end of Oct. It's better for my stress levels and I will be able to focus on finding a new job without this one hanging over me.
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Age: 30
Height: 5’1”
Location: East Texas
Original SW (Jan. 2018): 195.6 lbs
Disclaimer: Recovering from heart surgery so my exercise is simply counting my steps with Pacer app (it calculates your steps into miles)
Give Me 10 Days Round: 3
Give Me 10 Days Stats:
Round 51: SW: 182.6 lbs EW: 182.2 lbs (-0.4 lbs)
Round 52: SW: 182.2 lbs EW: 181.8 lbs (-0.4 lbs)
Round 53 SW: 181.8 lbs GW: 179.1 (-2.7 lbs)
I’m so excited!
Day/Weight/Comment
9/15 - 181.6 - Happy Scale’s first milestone has been reached! Milestone 2 (179.1) is my goal this round!
9/16 - 182.0 - I know that this number will come down! It is not allowed to go back up
9/17 - 181.0 - YES! I weighed last night and then I weighed this morning!! Coming on down!
9/18 - 184.0 - Ugh!
9/19 - 180.6 - YAY! Keep on coming down!
9/20 - 181.4
9/21 - 180.6
9/22 - 181.4
9/23 - Did not weigh
9/24 -183.0
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Leroyoliver
Sw 160
GW 145
9/15 - 158.4
Fell off the wagon.... but back
9/21 - 157.8
9/24 157.6
Ok so did ok - but not sure why I did not make it a priority. Fresh start tomorrow. Will track food today. Thank you for all being here.5 -
Day/Weight/Comment
9/15: 165.5 lbs.
9/16 165.5 lbs
9/17 165.5 lbs
9/18 165.5 lbs
9/19 165 lbs Finally going down. Will keep sticking to my calorie deficit.
9/20 164.5 lbs Though seems water weight but giving me the mental boost I need!
9/21 164.5 lbs
9/22 164.5 lbs
9/23 164.5 lbs
9/24 164.5 lbs
Loss: 1 lbs
Did lose bit lower than my expection. Moving over to next round!
Great job everyone!!5 -
Oh my goodness! @MadisonMolly2017, Were you rock climbing during your hike? I have never heard of a bone break like yours. It sounds awful. I hope you weren't alone when it happened. No surgery? 💝2
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@MadisonMolly2017 I am so sorry. Praying for quick pain relief and recovery❤2
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MadisonMolly2017 wrote: »Thank you @fraukazi
I went on a hike and suddenly found myself on back right shoulder. Hardest impact & most sudden that my body ever felt. Broke my upper right arm bone just below shoulder joint. See specialist tomorrow; spent 8 hours in ER & then DH spent 2 hours getting pain medication (24/7 wasn’t & a safe that only unlocks after 15 mins)
I think I won’t need surgery, but will find out for sure tomorrow.
How are you doing?
Oh wow, that's such a bummer! Fingers crossed that no surgery will be required and you have a quick recovery.
I'm ok, this whole work drama will be over soon as I've decided to just leave at the end of Oct. It's better for my stress levels and I will be able to focus on finding a new job without this one hanging over me.
See you in R54
Thank you @fraukazi Your plan sounds great! I wish you the best of luck getting new position - I know hiring can slow down over the holidays, so I’m sure you hav factored that in. I wish I’d cut stress levels earlier, so I commend your you! 🎉tiabirdie56 wrote: »Oh my goodness! @MadisonMolly2017, Were you rock climbing during your hike? I have never heard of a bone break like yours. It sounds awful. I hope you weren't alone when it happened. No surgery? 💝
Was a steep decline with hard packed first with small pebbles on top...not alone DH was great. I’ll know today re: surgery but they generally use a splint/sling. Thank you💞!cdavisdeva wrote: »@MadisonMolly2017 I am so sorry. Praying for quick pain relief and recovery❤
Thank you so much, @cdavisdeva much appreciated! 🙏🏻💕
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@MadisonMolly2017 sending good wishes. I hope you have a short and fast recovery 😣1
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abowersgirl wrote: »@MadisonMolly2017 sending good wishes. I hope you have a short and fast recovery 😣
Thank you @abowersgirl !!
I really appreciate your good thoughts & encouragement 💞1 -
@MadisonMolly2017 A friend slipped in her kitchen and had a similar break - at least it sounds similar. I pray your results are as good as hers.
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quiltingjaine wrote: »@MadisonMolly2017 A friend slipped in her kitchen and had a similar break - at least it sounds similar. I pray your results are as good as hers.
Thank you @quiltingjaine 🙏🏻
Me too! I think all will be fine. Do you know if she had a sling or if she had surgery? Do you know if she had physical therapy? Thank you so much for reaching out it really means a lot! 💞0 -
@MadisonMolly2017 She has a sling for 8 - 12 weeks, I think, and did have PT after. She was 60 when it happened and you may heal faster.0
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quiltingjaine wrote: »@MadisonMolly2017 She has a sling for 8 - 12 weeks, I think, and did have PT after. She was 60 when it happened and you may heal faster.
Thank you!!1
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