Coronavirus prep
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Just had to share this. We are watching the championship of our state basketball tournament (televised- game is being played with limitations on spectators). During the player introductions, one player licked his fingers, wiped them on the bottom of his shoe, shook hands with the opposing player with the same hand, who then went and fist-bumped his teammates.
Sort of comical, but not, you know?
I'd say way more "not" than "sort of."1 -
things tightened up over the last day in oklahoma. community college finally caved and told us we'd be switching to online classes for two weeks after spring break. got several e-mails from my state health insurance about what to do if i have it, but still unsure whether we'll have tests or whether i'll be forced to pay for treatment. the school district i work for seems really hesitant to cancel any school days, which i do understand given that schools provide so many other services to the community. i decided to self-quarantine yesterday what with my dad's situation and i've been monitoring for symptoms -- got this persistent body ache, occasional chills/sweats and a slight sore throat so far, head kind of feels full of cotton balls when i look at lights. i'm a bit dizzy just typing this. nothing debilitating though. really nervous that i won't have enough leave to cover a full two weeks but we have a decent sick leave sharing policy at work, hopefully people would be understanding.19
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I'm not downplaying the coronavirus at all. It's serious and deadly for some people. The thing that gets me, though, is comparing the reaction of people to Covid-19 -- stripping the shelves in stores and closing gatherings and schools -- comparing this reaction to the way people react to the flu.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/the-big-numberthe-flu-has-hit-at-least-22-million-people-in-the-us-so-far/2020/02/14/3a83c0cc-4e7f-11ea-b721-9f4cdc90bc1c_story.html
I live in the United States. According to this article, written in mid-February, the flu infected between 22 million to 31 million in the USA this past flu season, and killed at least 12,000 as of Feb. 7. I don't have figures to mid-March. We're advised to get a flu shot. Elderly people are advised to avoid big gatherings where they could get sick. Basically, though, I hear almost nothing about the flu. Why the extreme panic now when we don't panic over flu?
12,000 deaths out of 31 million sick people. That's a lot of people dying from the flu, but really only a small percentage. If COVID-19 ends up with a 6-7% death rate because the healthcare system becomes overwhelmed (like in Italy), and 31 million Americans get it, that's a lot more than your measly 12,000 deaths. That's more like the potential for well over 2 million deaths. And that's if only 31 million get it. Big difference. We really can't afford for everyone to be sick at once...Do the math. Let's hope we can spread the infections out over time.24 -
lynn_glenmont wrote: »Just had to share this. We are watching the championship of our state basketball tournament (televised- game is being played with limitations on spectators). During the player introductions, one player licked his fingers, wiped them on the bottom of his shoe, shook hands with the opposing player with the same hand, who then went and fist-bumped his teammates. Sort of comical, but not, you know?
I'd say way more "not" than "sort of."
I agree. The contradiction was just so ridiculous, I laughed while I cringed.1 -
snickerscharlie wrote: »Just had to share this. We are watching the championship of our state basketball tournament (televised- game is being played with limitations on spectators). During the player introductions, one player licked his fingers, wiped them on the bottom of his shoe, shook hands with the opposing player with the same hand, who then went and fist-bumped his teammates. Sort of comical, but not, you know?
No, not comical at all. And I have a very twist-y sense of humour.
Specifically, what I found comical was the fist-bump after all the grossness, like that was going to help. *eye roll*4 -
Today they cancelled the local con I was going to in two weeks. I meet up every year with all my geeky high school friends who have moved out of state. Gonna miss seeing everybody but it’s good to have it officially cancelled since everyone was wavering back and forth about whether it was safe to come, and this way no one has to make that decision.9
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rheddmobile wrote: »Today they cancelled the local con I was going to in two weeks. I meet up every year with all my geeky high school friends who have moved out of state. Gonna miss seeing everybody but it’s good to have it officially cancelled since everyone was wavering back and forth about whether it was safe to come, and this way no one has to make that decision.
Yes, it’s been kind of a relief when they finally just cancel something, so then the decision is just out of your hands. We are still waiting for that to happen with our kids’ school, and our daughter’s ballet studio. So far both are still on.0 -
Australia: all gatherings over 500 people cancelled for spectators.
Grand Prix cancelled altogether and sports matches being played without spectators.
I had tickets to AFL game - round 1 next weekend.
Waiting for refund.
Meanwhile our immigration minister( Peter Dutton) tested positive and in self isolation.
I read ( but not sure if it is true) that Ivanka Trump in self isolation because she had close contact with him.3 -
kshama2001 wrote: »My OH keeps telling me to stock up on Fritos
I've been seeing stories like these, which are encouraging me to start stocking up for the eventuality of price increases or temporary shortages:- P&G Says 17,600 Products Could Be Affected By Coronavirus In China, Highlighting Supply Chain Risk
- I heard stories about panic buying in New York and Washington states on the news, so I do not have the exact links.
I'm thinking about shelf stable milk. I think reconstituted powdered milk is gross, but have had some ascetic milk that wasn't bad. Don't remember the brand. Anyone have recommendations for brands and best place to buy for best prices?
I was in south Florida for the dreadful 2005 hurricane season, so I believe in preparing for times when stores are not available, although as time has passed, I've done less stocking up.
Buy protein powder a better investment then shelf stable milk4 -
My children’s last b-ball game, plus the end of season celebration on Sunday, have both been canceled. DH sent me the email and said “you called it!” I am glad in a way, last week I felt like I was breathing in a cess pool. Because my husband coaches all 4 teams, and refs many other games, we are in the gym from 10AM until sometimes 7 or 8 PM with hundreds of people going in and out.lightenup2016 wrote: »rheddmobile wrote: »Today they cancelled the local con I was going to in two weeks. I meet up every year with all my geeky high school friends who have moved out of state. Gonna miss seeing everybody but it’s good to have it officially cancelled since everyone was wavering back and forth about whether it was safe to come, and this way no one has to make that decision.
Yes, it’s been kind of a relief when they finally just cancel something, so then the decision is just out of your hands. We are still waiting for that to happen with our kids’ school, and our daughter’s ballet studio. So far both are still on.
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Why do Americans feel so invincible? That we are somehow immune (literally and figuratively) to something like this when we see it happening in other parts of the world? Yes, it seems unfathomable, but it’s a new reality... the college in my mom’s town is staying open, she said she heard it’s because the local businesses depend on them and it would hurt them financially if the students left early.8
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And you can tell its election season:
I get a voicemail on my phone today from one of my congressmen, as a robocall to update on the virus. It really irked me because he was constantly throwing in there all HE was doing and to call HIS office for updates.....
I'm just thinking how low can you go to use something like this as a springboard for your campaign?10 -
Someone helping out the hourly workers who won't have work to do. For those of you not in the US, Giannis is the star of the Milwaukee Bucks NBA team and the reigning MVP.
ETA: the team just announced it will match any players donations.11 -
Someone helping out the hourly workers who won't have work to do. For those of you not in the US, Giannis is the star of the Milwaukee Bucks NBA team and the reigning MVP.
ETA: the team just announced it will match any players donations.
I love this one, too:
https://news.yahoo.com/zion-pledges-cover-arena-employees-220901799.html6 -
And the owners of my Duckies will take care of the Honda Center workers
https://www.anaheimcalling.com/2020/3/13/21178520/ducks-owners-pay-honda-center-employees-during-event-postponement-henry-susan-samueli-anaheim-covid5 -
Schools in Manitoba will be closed as of March 23 for the following 3 weeks. We have I think 7 confirmed cases in the whole province, but if we can slow the infection rate and put less strain on the already strained health system who can argue? Even our little grocery store(town of 600 with another 600 rural) was bulldozed by people today. Not much left on the shelves. I had my husband grab a bag of flour and one of sugar so we can bake while bored and not going out much.4
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It really is pretty heartwarming to see how certain people and organizations are stepping up and helping.
In this area, a couple I've seen are a restaurant offering free cereal/milk/muffin breakfast to schoolkids who usually eat at school, and a brewpub making a boatload of pizza to distribute to school-age kids, before pending school-organized programs get off the ground. (The latter is taking some social-media *baby-feline*, BTW, for not offering free delivery of free food, because asking people to go to a central location is a risk. 🙄)6 -
Moogie-fit - got my vegetarian protein powder just add water 💦 or almond milk the baby loves it (One of His Doctors recommend it). We bought regular unsweetened almond milk too but it’s refrigerated long shelf life.1
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Someone helping out the hourly workers who won't have work to do. For those of you not in the US, Giannis is the star of the Milwaukee Bucks NBA team and the reigning MVP.
ETA: the team just announced it will match any players donations.
I love this one, too:
https://news.yahoo.com/zion-pledges-cover-arena-employees-220901799.html
Good for him.
I don't believe anyone who makes a ton of money has an obligation to give it away BUT I love it when they feel a sense of community and do what they can to help out. Sports rely heavily on hourly or seasonal workers who take tickets, serve food and beverages, act as security, and clean up during and after these events. If the events get cancelled, there goes a big chunk of their income. Basketball games would not be the same without all of these workers and I am happy to see players understand that.9 -
Italy 🇮🇹- Singing y playing instruments y stereos from windows to balconies for each other. Strong together in a time of need
https://youtu.be/Q734VN0N7hw 8 -
We have our 6th case in New Zealand now, a man in his 60s recently returned from the US. And the remembrance event for the Christchurch mosque attacks, scheduled for tomorrow, has been cancelled. It would have been a large gathering, with people from all over New Zealand, and from overseas, in attendance.
And apparently further border restrictions are to be announced over the weekend. I suspect the hatches will be battened down as much as possible.6 -
I had to cancel two bucket list trips today. Hello stress eating (like 2,000 calories of stress eating). Anyone else stress eating? I’d been doing so well. 🤬
I’m higher risk because I have asthma and cancer, so I’m pretty much housebound for the duration. As of Monday, my store was stocked - not sure what will be there tomorrow. I’m fairly stocked except for fresh produce, but fortunately I have access to home delivery.
I’d really love to know when the bulk of this crisis will be over. I’m on borrowed time here. I haven’t seen any estimates. Maybe June?
I'm truly sorry you have so much on your plate.. and to add this on top. 😔
Take care 🤗2 -
I’m beyond exhausted. Worked late all week, then came the news that my county now has one presumptive positive patient, home quarantined. I’m pretty sure I will be getting texts from my team this weekend. 😷4
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Nony_Mouse wrote: »We have our 6th case in New Zealand now, a man in his 60s recently returned from the US. And the remembrance event for the Christchurch mosque attacks, scheduled for tomorrow, has been cancelled. It would have been a large gathering, with people from all over New Zealand, and from overseas, in attendance.
And apparently further border restrictions are to be announced over the weekend. I suspect the hatches will be battened down as much as possible.
Update: borders not closed, but everyone entering New Zealand is required to self-isolate for 14 days, beginning midnight tomorrow. @nutmegoreo, that gives you just under 31 hours.11 -
Switzerland currently has 1100+ confirmed infections and 11 reported deaths. Testing is currently limited to symptomatic patients. Mild cases aren't being tested due to lack of testing capacity. So the case number is most certainly higher.
The federal government decided yesterday that:
- all gatherings with 100+ people are canceled.
- Restaurants may have a maximum of 50 guests at a time
- Schools from Kindergarden to University are closed. Universities move to distance learning
- it is suggested to limit all non-necessary travel and to avoid public transportation during peak hours
- the 5th hospital bataillon is being activated. Not sure yet if they'll be putting one of the emergency hospitals with a capacity of 200 patients into use or if they'll be supporting the worst hit areas with personnel (nursing staff and such)
- Hospitals and nursing homes have entrance check-points. Visitors are encouraged to not visit. Patients are allowed 2 visitors per day. Children are no longer allowed into nursing homes. Special rules and regulation are in effect for hospitalized children.
- All non-essential surgeries are being reschedules
- If possible, patient consultations at doctor's offices are being moved to phone consultations.
- People are being encouraged to home office where possible
- People with mild symptoms are encouraged to self-quarantine until 24hours after the symptoms disappear.
I'm sure I forgot a few measures....
The hardest hit area is on the border to Italy. They're talking about closing borders. Currently, non-essential travel is no longer permitted across the border. But, and that's a huge problem in all border regions of Switzerland, nearly 4000 hospital staff working in the canton of Ticino live on the Italian side of the border. We close the border and we'll have a shortage of staff that will make the situation even worse.11 -
JRsLateInLifeMom wrote: »Italy 🇮🇹- Singing y playing instruments y stereos from windows to balconies for each other. Strong together in a time of needhttps://youtu.be/Q734VN0N7hw
These clips always make me cry.8 -
I'm glad so many other countries and states are starting to get serious. We're seeing Italy pulling together as never before. Our politicians were always bickering and trying to pull each other down. That has all stopped for now and, frankly, it's a relief. I hope this goes better for all of you.18
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Doctor provides a much-welcomed positive outlook on coronavirusMuch of news regarding coronavirus is all doom and gloom, but much progress is being made with the virus. Dr. Gordon Cohen, a general surgery specialist in Tacoma, recently joined Seattle’s Morning News to discuss the other side that he and his colleagues are witnessing.
“One of the intensive care unit doctors that I worked with made a comment that sort of struck me, which is: ‘Where all the patients?’ What we’re seeing on the television and the media is creating this widespread panic and fear, but here we are in the hospitals and the intensive care units are not filling up with patients,” he said.
Dr. Cohen provided us with a short list of things that are not terrible about this virus outbreak so far. None of this is meant to suggest that you shouldn’t wash your hands thoroughly or use hand sanitizer disinfecting wipes, or that you should ease up on your social distancing. All of that should still be taken seriously. But Dr. Cohen wanted to suggest that not everything about this virus is pointing towards the end of the world. We have, for example, the numbers in China.
“It appears that the situation is improving in China. The strong control isolation measures imposed by the Chinese government are actually starting to pay off,” he said. “For several weeks now the number of cases diagnosed every day is decreasing. It really looks like it’s plateaued for the most part.”
We also have a virus that can be killed, which is not always the case, and we attacked the coronavirus rather quickly.
“We can actually wipe the virus clean. A lot of times we can’t do that. But this virus could be effectively inactivated from surfaces with either alcohol, hydrogen peroxide, or 0.1% bleach in just one minute,” he said.
“If we compare, for example, to the first cases of AIDS, which were described in 1981, it took nearly two years to actually identify the virus HIV, which caused that disease. Whereas with COVID-19, the first cases of severe pneumonia were reported in China on December 31 2019, and by January 7 in just one week the virus had been identified and the actual genome of that virus was available on Day 10.”
Along with quick identification, there has been, for the most part, global cooperation across the board.
“The scientific community worldwide has jumped all over this. There’s tremendous international science cooperation. And after just one month, there’s about 164 peer-reviewed articles that can be accessed by scientists around the world. That’s huge,” he said. “Whereas with SARS in 2003 it took more than a year to reach less than half that number of articles. So the science community is really acting very, very rapidly.”
Dr. Cohen says that it also should be reassuring that we have a low number of severe cases.
“The disease really causes no symptoms or is mild in 81% of cases, and of course that means in 14% it can cause severe pneumonia, and in 5% it can become critical or even fatal. It’s still unclear what the death rate may be, but I think it’s likely it’s going to be much lower than what the estimates are so far.”
“People are recovering. Much of the reported data relates to the increase in the number of confirmed cases and the number of deaths. But most infected people are actually cured, and there’s 13 times more cured cases than deaths, and that proportion is increasing because we’re making more and more and more diagnoses.”13 -
Our CT cases jumped from 6 to 12. I am sure there are more. They opened a drive through testing area, but I have not seen much information about it.
We had to go to Walmart this morning(6am, not too many people in the store), and areas that I didn't think would be empty definitely were. I figured I would pick up another box of supplies for my TOM, and was lucky to grab one of the last three boxes of tampons, but no pads(they did have adult diapers!!). We ordered bulk dog food(we should do this regularly because our 2 dogs go through a lot of food each month) but the aisle was completely empty. No laundry soap, kitty litter, milk, chips, meat(except for chicken breast and thighs-I brought three family packs and now have about 3 weeks meat in our freezer just in case), and they only had 2 packs of my flavor yogurt. Shockingly, they did have 4 packs of napkins and I grabbed one.
Here is a couple pictures of what we saw
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I saw this in a private group and thought it was a great idea. Will work for any of your favorite service providers that are getting slammed!
"Fear of the Corona virus is keeping people away from restaurants, who usually operate on small margins. This emergency is having a direct effect on the business owners and the people that work there. So here's something you can do to help:
Go to your favorite restaurant and buy a gift certificate (or preferably, get it online if possible). Buy it directly from the restaurant, so they get the use of your money for a month or two. Then when things have settled down, treat your special people to an evening out and use your certificate!"
We can all do something on a small scale that may help on a larger scale.
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