Coronavirus prep

earlnabby · April 2020

kimny72 wrote: »

So is there anywhere that you can get any kind of masks? I'd like to get some for my parents to wear when they go to the grocery store (they refuse to let me shop for them, grrrr). I don't have a sewing machine or I'd try to figure out how to do something from scratch.

Contact your local quilt guild or even JoAnn fabrics and see if they have names of people sewing masks. No, they are not as effective but better than nothing.

Diatonic12 · April 2020

I had to pick up a Rx tonight. I saw a senior woman about 80-85 yrs with a plastic rain hat and a little homemade mask in the grocery store. She was struggling to find what she needed. Our shelves are still bare. No dairy, eggs, meat and very little produce. There's not a single potato to be had. No cleaning or paper products. It's only been a few weeks but I wish our ship would come in. I've been fixing rice with all kinds of canned vegetables and broths. I have food but I'm being conservative with what's left. I am concerned about the stockers and clerks without any protective gear. Much love to everyone.

AnnPT77 · April 2020

So, I did my first grocery outing in 3 weeks, mid-afternoon, at a local employee-owned full grocery a bit on the health-food-y slant, like a more down-to-earth WF selection of groceries, without the fancy deli/buffet/bar and high-end stuff. It was surprisingly busy (they've been suffering since an actual WF arrived nearby, sadly). The traffic in store included what appeared to be extra staff people on duty, just assigned to circulate through the store sanitizing handles on freezers, the lift-handles on bulk bins, carts, and that sort of thing. Some staff were wearing masks/gloves, some not.

Customers were being quite conscientious about giving each other room, maybe half with masks, and a few more than that with gloves. I was pretty well suited up, in long sleeves, hoody (it was 39F outside), nitrile gloves (couldn't donate the open box locally anyway, might as well wear), and a cotton bandana over lower face. Various people smiled at me, and I found myself (literally) saying "I'm smiling back at you, but you can't tell!" several times. (One nice young woman said "I can tell, from your eyes.".

).

Then, I did my first full-bore home grocery sanitization. Man, that was enough to encourage me to self-isolate even longer before shopping, next time.

Some non-perishables are still in the car, "aging".

But, I think I'm set for a while. About the only thing I haven't figured out is milk, of which I want ample amounts in my coffee. I can get a little over a week's worth at a time, so that'll probably be some quick store runs going forward. I'm pretty well supplied with other stuff, including food I've frozen myself and some big frozen veggie bags from Costco that last quite a while, for one person, even a big veg-eater like me.

For context, our mid-sized metro area (in mid-Michigan) has around 140 known cases so far. I don't know that we've had deaths yet locally, but there are many more cases down in greater Detroit, and certainly deaths there.

Just for general info, and maybe comparison with other communities, this is what our local hospital system is accepting donations of (new and unopened) from individuals/community:

* Disposable face masks
* N95 masks, including 3D printed
* Eye protection including face shields and safety goggles
* Disposable gowns
* Disposable non-latex gloves
* Surgical caps
* Disposable foot covers
* Bleach
* Bleach or anti-microbial sanitizing wipes
* Hand sanitizer
* PAPRs (Power air purifying respirators) and PAPR hoods
* Nasal flock swabs (FLOQ swabs)
* Ventilator parts from Hamilton G5, Servo I and S, Trilogy, LTV 1200, HT 50, 7200 Puritan Bennett, including ventilator heaters, probes, wires, and disposable adapters
* Fisher & Payal MR850 wires and heaters
* Hand-sewn reusable masks

They have a drop-off location, and I went there today. It's at a school building, school currently closed of course, adjacent to the hospital. (I had an unopened box of nitrile gloves, too - I use them for crafting, and had bought a big 2-pack at Costco months ago, just for convenience' sake, but a couple years supply for me - they need them much more than I do!). After I parked and got out of the car, a young man came out to the parking lot (in mask and gloves), asked what I had (I assume to verify it was something they accept), then took it from me at arm's length. Pretty distant, no worse than grocery checkout. (Oh, and: He asked if I wanted a tax receipt.

).

A local school system robotics team is making plastic face shields, using their 3D printers, and accepting donations of elastic (certain widths), letter-size or larger transparencies or similar clear plastic sheets, and blue painters tape. They just have a tight-lidded plastic bin outside the school administration during limited hours, where you open the bin and drop your item in.

I love seeing all this collaboration and energy!

MikePfirrman · April 2020

Ann - you might not be willing to, but non-dairy stuff lasts a lot longer in the fridge (like two months). More stuff in it, but it's not bad if you use it in coffee.

Sounds like an animal shelter, not what a hospital should have to ask for. Crazy times.

AnnPT77 · April 2020

MikePfirrman wrote: »

Ann - you might not be willing to, but non-dairy stuff lasts a lot longer in the fridge (like two months). More stuff in it, but it's not bad if you use it in coffee.

Sounds like an animal shelter, not what a hospital should have to ask for. Crazy times.

Thanks, Mike. I'm willing, but not wanting to. The skim milk in my coffee is an important contributor to my protein goal (I drink 2 cups of coffee, each with 3/4C hot skim milk!) at almost 5% of total, as well as my enjoyment, and I don't enjoy protein powder at all, so I don't want to go that route instead. In normal life, I'd buy more cartons of milk at a time (they keep a couple of months, usually, unopened, too . . . but I'm trying to stick to 2 at a time to be a non-hoarder).

Basically, I'm trapped in a conspiracy between my hedonism (like my milk!), and my community spirit (don't buy 4 or more cartons like I would in normal times (I hate to shop, always)!).

mkculs13 · April 2020

Thanks to all who recommended ideas for dealing with my salad shortage

I was planning to go shopping "tomorrow" at 6 am with the other "old people" (I'm 61, for goodness sake), but since I have been awake for at least an hour and don't feel ready to go back to sleep yet, I suspect I won't be waking up early for what is now "today." My alarm is set to allow me time to make coffee b/f my home workday begins, so I do have a failsafe in place. Maybe Thursday.

The study projecting peak dates had WI at May 22nd-ish, and now has us at April 26; more data, different projections. I'm eager to see if our state and national efforts are making a difference. It seems--from folks posting here--that we all see a lot of "non-compliance" still, and I wonder if the model takes that into account; I guess we will find out. Especially since people have been traveling for Spring Break over the past 2 weeks, and the impact of their movements might not show up in data for another 7-14 days, depending on when they got home.

snowflake954 · April 2020

zamphir66 wrote: »

cwolfman13 wrote: »

lynn_glenmont wrote: »

I assume that when you say it is not an airborne virus you mean that it is not aerosolized and sinks to surfaces very quickly, but without that explanation, I think saying it is not airborne can be misleading, ...

I would think people would know the difference. I'm not remotely a health care professional and I know the difference.

I have an MA in English, and I work adjacent to public safety. Before this pandemic, I was not aware of this distinction between airborne and aerosolized in the context of contagions.

M-W's definition of airborne is
1. done or being in the air : being off the ground: such as
a: carried through the air (as by an aircraft)
b: supported especially by aerodynamic forces or propelled through the air by force
(a plane becoming airborne)
c: transported or carried by the air
(airborne allergens)

Given that, I would simply have assumed aerosolized to be a synonym of airborne. Or, possibly, aerosolization is the process by which something becomes airborne.

I queried a few of my smart friends; they didn't know the difference either.

So I'm going to side with lynn_glenmont and say that this is confusing for many, if not most.

Thank you! I thought I was the only stupid one! I'm glad to know that the difference isn't obvious.

snowflake954 · April 2020

I'll give news from Italy.

Like Ann, I also went grocery shopping. I got there at 8:15--they open at 8:30. The line was only a fourth of a block long. New signs up on the grocery store windows. Only one person can do shopping (no couples, or taking kids along), everyone has to stay 5 ft apart in the store, and it is required to wear a mask to enter. The store was stocked as usual and several things useful for disinfecting were even on sale.

They say we've hit peak--Yay! However, still a lot of deaths everyday. We're over 100,000 cases and 12,000 deaths.

I e-mailed my family and called my mother (91, in Minnesota). My younger sister says my brothers are visiting and are too close to her. I told them this: (which I haven't shared earlier because there's a lot of anxiety already) if you are admitted to the hospital with COV19, you will not be allowed visiters. People that die from this in the hospitals, die without the comfort of family and friends. I told my siblings that I didn't want them to see our mother die that way. So recommended staying 6 ft away from her and wearing masks.

10in30fitness · April 2020

Last post ^ is sad

snowflake954 · April 2020

10in30fitness wrote: »

Last post ^ is sad

Sad--but true. So many people don't realize what can happen if they get the virus. They've been told "it's just the flu".

goldthistime · April 2020

AnnPT77 wrote: »

MikePfirrman wrote: »

Ann - you might not be willing to, but non-dairy stuff lasts a lot longer in the fridge (like two months). More stuff in it, but it's not bad if you use it in coffee.

Sounds like an animal shelter, not what a hospital should have to ask for. Crazy times.

Thanks, Mike. I'm willing, but not wanting to. The skim milk in my coffee is an important contributor to my protein goal (I drink 2 cups of coffee, each with 3/4C hot skim milk!) at almost 5% of total, as well as my enjoyment, and I don't enjoy protein powder at all, so I don't want to go that route instead. In normal life, I'd buy more cartons of milk at a time (they keep a couple of months, usually, unopened, too . . . but I'm trying to stick to 2 at a time to be a non-hoarder).

Basically, I'm trapped in a conspiracy between my hedonism (like my milk!), and my community spirit (don't buy 4 or more cartons like I would in normal times (I hate to shop, always)!).

I just finished my 3 litres of frozen bagged milk, and it was fine! I went out shopping on Monday and bought another two bags, one for my fridge and one for the freezer. Mine never completely thawed in the fridge, so it cooled my coffee down faster than normal, but it just meant that I could drink it sooner.

JustSomeEm · April 2020

I've been stalking this thread for...ever. Just wanted to pop in and send lots of hugs to everyone.

I've been working from home for the last week or so, and am a little sad that we're likely to be stuck at home for the next month or longer. There are parts of my job I can't do from here, so at some point I may have to head into the office - which has had confirmed cases. I'm a little disturbed that the 'potential deaths' in the US has crept up overnight from possibly up to 200K to now possibly up to 240K (at the top end). My state went on a mandatory stay at home order earlier this week, but so many are in industries considered 'essential' that I wonder how much difference the order will make?

My spouse has been moved to swing shift to facilitate social distancing, but I worry for him every time he leaves the house. My youngest re-starts school today via online learning (he's in high school)... on April Fools day.

Poor kid. And we've been doing lots of cycling and walking to keep from going too stir-crazy. Hubby and I went to Sam's club over the weekend to stock up on some essentials, and apparently toilet paper is still being hoarded around here. I was really hoping people would come to their senses there soon, but it's not looking like it. Sorry. Putting away my Eeyore hat now.

Anyway - on a positive note: EMTs from other states have headed to New York to attempt to help them out. And there are lots of news stories about people finding ways to come together while we have to stay apart: https://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/englishwomans-virtual-pub-welcomes-14500-global-customers/

Thanks for all the news, and links, and chatting y'all.

Chef_Barbell · April 2020

News from the epicenter of the USA.... I went to Costco yesterday in Queens, NY to do some much needed stocking. It looked like a warzone in the streets. It was so dirty and disposable gloves and masks littered everywhere.

I don't wear a mask or gloves nor do I clean my groceries after shopping. I have enough on my plate and don't need to make myself crazy.

We're setting up pop up hospitals and morgues where normally it would be parks and tennis. So sad.

ReenieHJ · April 2020

Gisel2015 wrote: »

ReenieHJ wrote: »

snowflake954 wrote: »

lynn_glenmont wrote: »

Found the full Washington Post story on the CDC considering changing guidance on masks for the general public

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/cdc-considering-recommending-general-public-wear-face-coverings-in-public/2020/03/30/6a3e495c-7280-11ea-87da-77a8136c1a6d_story.html

Read this--thanks for the link. I'm wearing a mask when I go out, and most people in Italy are. The discussion about the mask not protecting you from others, but wearing one will protect people you are in contact with if you are infected, is a no-brainer for me. If everyone wore one then you'd be protecting the rest of the populace. You can be infected and not know it for 2-3 weeks. That's why this virus is so hard to stop.

My mask is homemade. I sterilize it after every use and have a filtering material that I pin in the inner pocket. I throw the filter away after every use.

Another question, I've been told if we just let the mask sit for 3 days after we've used it, it's okay to use it again? I don't go outside the house very often so 3 days between usage is very doable.

My niece is having someone she knows make masks, with a pocket for the filter. If you have to throw the filter out after every use, where do you get more? Probably a dumb question. And there again, if you just let it sit for 3 days, can you simply reuse it?

Thanks Snowflake. You've been on my mind. Wishing you and your family the very best.

Furnace filters can be used in the inside pockets. you can get it in H. Depot or hardware store.

Thank you for that information.

Next thing to be sold out.

ReenieHJ · April 2020

snowflake954 wrote: »

I'll give news from Italy.

Like Ann, I also went grocery shopping. I got there at 8:15--they open at 8:30. The line was only a fourth of a block long. New signs up on the grocery store windows. Only one person can do shopping (no couples, or taking kids along), everyone has to stay 5 ft apart in the store, and it is required to wear a mask to enter. The store was stocked as usual and several things useful for disinfecting were even on sale.

They say we've hit peak--Yay! However, still a lot of deaths everyday. We're over 100,000 cases and 12,000 deaths.

I e-mailed my family and called my mother (91, in Minnesota). My younger sister says my brothers are visiting and are too close to her. I told them this: (which I haven't shared earlier because there's a lot of anxiety already) if you are admitted to the hospital with COV19, you will not be allowed visiters. People that die from this in the hospitals, die without the comfort of family and friends. I told my siblings that I didn't want them to see our mother die that way. So recommended staying 6 ft away from her and wearing masks.

Your last paragraph makes me so sad. But it's very true. You see articles, videos, snapshots of people's lives now; they're having to say good-bye to their loved ones via Face Time, etc. Celebrating birthdays of their 90 yo relatives, from outside their windows. It's just not the way it should ever have had to be done.

In fact, a favorite child's book author of mine, Tomie dePaolo, just passed away at Dartmouth Hospital a couple days ago. Alone.

85 yo, spent his life making children and parents happier and he had to die alone; his pictures always showed a huge smile on his face. Loved the guy. My heart cannot grasp such a thing.

ReenieHJ · April 2020

Heh yeh, April Fools Day. I was hoping when I saw the sky today, "April Fools" would be written in the clouds and we could all get back to our normal lives again.

bmeadows380 · April 2020

I had to venture out yesterday evening to take my truck to the autoparts store because the stupid maintenance light came on (figures; I just paid the sucker off). They couldn't read by order of the health department, but I was able to purchase a reader and get the code myself. Apparently it has a sensor going out....lovely.....

My mom went with me as she needed some things, too. After I picked up my pharmacy order through drive through, we ended up at Walmart. Despite how how traffic has been, I was pleasantly surprised to see how un-populated both Walmart and Lowes were! There was maybe 1/3 or less of the normal total number of people in there, and most were trying to practice the social distancing. I suppose the reality has taken hold over there since there are 2 confirmed cases now.

Some people are wearing masks and some aren't. Some are wearing gloves, and I've seen a few tossed on the ground.

The one thing that irritated me was while in Lowes, the sales associated we were talking to kept getting too close (mom needed a new stove; great time for hers to go out!) I'd keep backing up, and the next thing you knew, she was in too close again.

JustSomeEm · April 2020

bmeadows380 wrote: »

I had to venture out yesterday evening to take my truck to the autoparts store because the stupid maintenance light came on (figures; I just paid the sucker off). They couldn't read by order of the health department, but I was able to purchase a reader and get the code myself. Apparently it has a sensor going out....lovely.....

My mom went with me as she needed some things, too. After I picked up my pharmacy order through drive through, we ended up at Walmart. Despite how how traffic has been, I was pleasantly surprised to see how un-populated both Walmart and Lowes were! There was maybe 1/3 or less of the normal total number of people in there, and most were trying to practice the social distancing. I suppose the reality has taken hold over there since there are 2 confirmed cases now.

Some people are wearing masks and some aren't. Some are wearing gloves, and I've seen a few tossed on the ground.

The one thing that irritated me was while in Lowes, the sales associated we were talking to kept getting too close (mom needed a new stove; great time for hers to go out!) I'd keep backing up, and the next thing you knew, she was in too close again.

Lowes here has put up plastic barriers between the cashier and the customers they're checking out, which surprised me this weekend. I didn't encounter any other employees.

The gloves on the ground outside stores really bothers me - there are trash cans right outside the store doors. Is it really so hard to get them into the trashcan?

If you're worried about getting your items to the car/cart put back before taking them off, fine, but it only takes an extra minute to walk back to the trashcan and then get back to your vehicle.

ReenieHJ · April 2020

bmeadows, make sure if she buys a stove at Lowes, she uses it a LOT in the 1st couple of days, to make sure it works, not sure but I think their return window is 2 days(could be wrong).

My sister bought a washing machine there, Whirlpool(good brand right??)and even from the beginning it didn't work right. She couldn't use her hot water cycles but let it go because she's got enough things to worry about and that was small potatoes, to her. Big mistake. Lowes refuses to return it after trying to get that cycle fixed, and then she's had nothing but multiple problems with it since. One technician who came to the house(some refuse to even come because of Covid-19), told her once you start replacing one part, it affects the whole computer system on it. She can get it to work sometimes, then other days she and her dh are washing clothes by hand. It's been about 6 weeks now and the dang thing still isn't fixed.

800 bucks, a huge learning curve.
Just sayin'.....they don't make things like they used to.

Chef_Barbell · April 2020

JustSomeEm wrote: »

bmeadows380 wrote: »

I had to venture out yesterday evening to take my truck to the autoparts store because the stupid maintenance light came on (figures; I just paid the sucker off). They couldn't read by order of the health department, but I was able to purchase a reader and get the code myself. Apparently it has a sensor going out....lovely.....

My mom went with me as she needed some things, too. After I picked up my pharmacy order through drive through, we ended up at Walmart. Despite how how traffic has been, I was pleasantly surprised to see how un-populated both Walmart and Lowes were! There was maybe 1/3 or less of the normal total number of people in there, and most were trying to practice the social distancing. I suppose the reality has taken hold over there since there are 2 confirmed cases now.

Some people are wearing masks and some aren't. Some are wearing gloves, and I've seen a few tossed on the ground.

The one thing that irritated me was while in Lowes, the sales associated we were talking to kept getting too close (mom needed a new stove; great time for hers to go out!) I'd keep backing up, and the next thing you knew, she was in too close again.

Lowes here has put up plastic barriers between the cashier and the customers they're checking out, which surprised me this weekend. I didn't encounter any other employees.

The gloves on the ground outside stores really bothers me - there are trash cans right outside the store doors. Is it really so hard to get them into the trashcan? If you're worried about getting your items to the car/cart put back before taking them off, fine, but it only takes an extra minute to walk back to the trashcan and then get back to your vehicle.

I noticed that here when I went to Costco and at Dunkin Donuts they put tables in front of the cashier to promote distance.

bmeadows380 · April 2020

ReenieHJ wrote: »

bmeadows, make sure if she buys a stove at Lowes, she uses it a LOT in the 1st couple of days, to make sure it works, not sure but I think their return window is 2 days(could be wrong). My sister bought a washing machine there, Whirlpool(good brand right??)and even from the beginning it didn't work right. She couldn't use her hot water cycles but let it go because she's got enough things to worry about and that was small potatoes, to her. Big mistake. Lowes refuses to return it after trying to get that cycle fixed, and then she's had nothing but multiple problems with it since. One technician who came to the house(some refuse to even come because of Covid-19), told her once you start replacing one part, it affects the whole computer system on it. She can get it to work sometimes, then other days she and her dh are washing clothes by hand. It's been about 6 weeks now and the dang thing still isn't fixed. 800 bucks, a huge learning curve.
Just sayin'.....they don't make things like they used to.

Nope, they don't make things to last these days at all, nor do they make them to be repaired; its all throw-away. She actually bought the most basic stove you could get - has a control knob for the oven instead of a digital display; actually doesn't even have a clock on it! I bought most of my appliances at Lowe's and guess they're about as good as anything else I've bought elsewhere, but I"m like my mom and look for the most basic un-frilled items I can find

Chef_Barbell wrote: »

I noticed that here when I went to Costco and at Dunkin Donuts they put tables in front of the cashier to promote distance.

Lowes here also had the plastic barriers. The little Ace Hardware in my local town had the plastic barriers up and also was not allowing customers into the main store - you went to the checkout counter right inside the front door, told them what you wanted, and they sent an employee back to get it. I understand their thinking, but I wasn't seeing that as real efficient because sometimes you know what you want by sight but trying to get the employee to understand what you are looking for can be a challenge; plus, there might be other options to choose from, but the employee would just bring up the first thing they grabbed.

The Autozone had stacked crates or set tables in front of their checkouts.

missysippy930 · April 2020

Chef_Barbell wrote: »

News from the epicenter of the USA.... I went to Costco yesterday in Queens, NY to do some much needed stocking. It looked like a warzone in the streets. It was so dirty and disposable gloves and masks littered everywhere.

I don't wear a mask or gloves nor do I clean my groceries after shopping. I have enough on my plate and don't need to make myself crazy.

We're setting up pop up hospitals and morgues where normally it would be parks and tennis. So sad.

There’s definitely a learning curve. NY is leading the way for many of us. In Minnesota, they’re out scouting buildings for remote hospitals in anticipation.

These posts are bringing tears to my eyes.

If you don’t have an essential job, please stay home for all but essential needs. Heartfelt thanks to those that are putting their health at risk, for us❤️ Stay safe!

Remind your loved ones how much you care.
If you’re unable to see them in person, call or text to let them know!

bearly63 · April 2020

Just heard from my son in NYC - lower Manhattan. He said the Radisson next door to his building has been converted to a field hospital. He joked that if he had had the virus more seriously he could have just waltzed right next door.

He started symptoms on 3/20 and felt crappy until Thursday March 26th. Never had breathing issues but more of a tickle in his chest, terrible aches and headache and fever. Didn't bother asking to be tested because well you know.....I sent him a thermometer and he has been taking it to keep track. Problem is it keeps coming in at 97.3 or 97 or today 96.8! WTAF? I know that 98.6 is not necessarily the avg anymore. I took mine with the one I bought - different brand but similar. Mine came back 97.0 Maybe we are just cold hearted people.....

JustSomeEm · April 2020

bearly63 wrote: »

Just heard from my son in NYC - lower Manhattan. He said the Radisson next door to his building has been converted to a field hospital. He joked that if he had had the virus more seriously he could have just waltzed right next door.

He started symptoms on 3/20 and felt crappy until Thursday March 26th. Never had breathing issues but more of a tickle in his chest, terrible aches and headache and fever. Didn't bother asking to be tested because well you know.....I sent him a thermometer and he has been taking it to keep track. Problem is it keeps coming in at 97.3 or 97 or today 96.8! WTAF? I know that 98.6 is not necessarily the avg anymore. I took mine with the one I bought - different brand but similar. Mine came back 97.0 Maybe we are just cold hearted people.....

We've been talking about this here lately. I recently read somewhere that the 'average' temperature has been declining. I'll have to see if I can find the article. Anyway - you're not cold hearted... if you are, then so am I - mine typically runs below 97. Average means some are above and some below, anyway.

lemurcat2 · April 2020

Latest on the location of known cases in the Chicago area and IL. Chicago itself, and then Cook is still the hotspot within the state, of course -- but testing is much higher here too. Chicago, city only, has 45% of cases but 26% of deaths, although this early that could be distorted too. I do think it is suggesting there's relatively more testing here, but there are other possible factors. The reporting and stats also indicate that within the Cook County suburbs the numbers also may be distorted by who has access to easier testing (what communities have major hospital resources and are more affluent), as well as who might have been traveling more: https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavirus/ct-coronavirus-cases-counties-cook-dupage-lake-20200401-d2dytx6zgjhldo245un7donpvu-story.html

Chicago itself (city only) has (as of yesterday, the numbers are going up fast daily) 2693 cases, and the stats relating to those cases are perhaps of interest:

*Of 26 deaths, 19 were in people 60+

*21 of the deaths were men, 5 women

*although 60% of people known positive were never hospitalized, 40% were hospitalized -- note, this shows clearly that testing is still biased toward those with serious symptoms, and many with it are not getting tested, and our testing is much greater than most other states last I looked, we just still have a shortage of tests, as do most

*Of those hospitalized, 49% are 18-59, 51% are 60+, (0.2% under 18) -- again indicating this is NOT no big deal for the non elderly

*Of those hospitalized, 53% men, 47% women

https://www.chicago.gov/city/en/sites/covid-19/home/latest-data.html

JustSomeEm · April 2020

JustSomeEm wrote: »

bearly63 wrote: »

Just heard from my son in NYC - lower Manhattan. He said the Radisson next door to his building has been converted to a field hospital. He joked that if he had had the virus more seriously he could have just waltzed right next door.

He started symptoms on 3/20 and felt crappy until Thursday March 26th. Never had breathing issues but more of a tickle in his chest, terrible aches and headache and fever. Didn't bother asking to be tested because well you know.....I sent him a thermometer and he has been taking it to keep track. Problem is it keeps coming in at 97.3 or 97 or today 96.8! WTAF? I know that 98.6 is not necessarily the avg anymore. I took mine with the one I bought - different brand but similar. Mine came back 97.0 Maybe we are just cold hearted people.....

We've been talking about this here lately. I recently read somewhere that the 'average' temperature has been declining. I'll have to see if I can find the article. Anyway - you're not cold hearted... if you are, then so am I - mine typically runs below 97. Average means some are above and some below, anyway.

Here's the article: https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/health/if-youre-taking-your-temperature-because-of-the-coronavirus-98-6-isnt-the-normal-body-temperature-anymore/

NewLIFEstyle4ME · April 2020

Howard County bars sales of nonessential items at essential businesses

https://www.kokomotribune.com/news/local_news/howard-county-bars-sales-of-nonessential-items-at-essential-businesses/article_6d0c2798-7074-11ea-9136-538d5d848958.html

Howard County has banned the sale of these items in local stores during its stay-at-home order:

Banned purchases
Jewelry.
Furniture.
Home and lawn decor.
Toys and games.
Carpets.
Rugs and flooring.
Non-emergency appliances.
Music.
Books and magazines.
Craft and art supplies.
Paint.
Entertainment electronics.

Bry_Fitness70 · April 2020

We ordered grocery delivery from Instacart yesterday. The service had 7-8 local grocery stores to choose from and we ordered from 3. They just drop it off on your porch, no interaction. We wiped down the stuff that needed to be refrigerated/frozen and put it in the garage refrigerator where it will sit for a few days - we put the rest aside in the garage to quarantine for a few days. People from restaurants, gas stations, and grocery stores keep coming up positive, we aren't taking any chances.

moonangel12 · April 2020

Women’s body temperature can also vary depending on where they are in their cycle - I actually dipped down into the upper 95’s one time (sadly it was then that I realized I was losing an early pregnancy). I usually stay mid to upper 96’s (maybe because of my hysterectomy changing my hormones?). As a teen I was usually in the 97’s. A “normal” temp is definitely a fever for me...

ReenieHJ · April 2020

My niece lives in Maine. She was talking with her mom(my sister) this a.m. and said the governor has shut the borders for travel; if you're caught traveling outside the state it's $1000 fine. She can't come visit her parents and hasn't seen them in almost a month.(:

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