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I'm done. People are jerks and need to grow up. We should be coming together as a society, not judging other people or treating them badly. No one knows the situation of another. They don't know a person's home life, their health problems, or what help they have in their lives.
My cousin had to go to the store the other day. There were things she NEEDED, not just wanted. She had been doing everything in her power to not have to go out and hadn't for quite awhile. Thing is, she also had to take her 1 year old. There was no other choice that day. What she had to deal with, not just the judgemental looks people gave her, but also the things said to her... it's just not right.
1. In parking lot, while putting baby into wrap- a lady walked over to her and told her anyone stupid enough to bring a baby to a store right now needs to have dcs take their kids.
2. Inside store, at the end of an aisle waiting for a lady to exit aisle...she knocks her cart into her's on her way out and told her she was an f*ing moron for not leaving that baby at home
4. A lady saw me from the end of the aisle and yelled down that she was being reckless for her daughter's health and deserved to get sick and die from this, but that she would be the one getting sick from her child instead.
What sort of people think they have the RIGHT to act like this? To say these things to anyone?
I have lost faith.
What your cousin had to put up with is not right. However, people are under stress right now and the worst (but sometimes best) comes out at times like these. I hope she can manage to let it go. Being a mother of a baby right now isn't easy.8 -
snowflake954 wrote: »I'm done. People are jerks and need to grow up. We should be coming together as a society, not judging other people or treating them badly. No one knows the situation of another. They don't know a person's home life, their health problems, or what help they have in their lives.
My cousin had to go to the store the other day. There were things she NEEDED, not just wanted. She had been doing everything in her power to not have to go out and hadn't for quite awhile. Thing is, she also had to take her 1 year old. There was no other choice that day. What she had to deal with, not just the judgemental looks people gave her, but also the things said to her... it's just not right.
1. In parking lot, while putting baby into wrap- a lady walked over to her and told her anyone stupid enough to bring a baby to a store right now needs to have dcs take their kids.
2. Inside store, at the end of an aisle waiting for a lady to exit aisle...she knocks her cart into her's on her way out and told her she was an f*ing moron for not leaving that baby at home
4. A lady saw me from the end of the aisle and yelled down that she was being reckless for her daughter's health and deserved to get sick and die from this, but that she would be the one getting sick from her child instead.
What sort of people think they have the RIGHT to act like this? To say these things to anyone?
I have lost faith.
What your cousin had to put up with is not right. However, people are under stress right now and the worst (but sometimes best) comes out at times like these. I hope she can manage to let it go. Being a mother of a baby right now isn't easy.
My cousin is a strong as heck person and we are using her experience to hopefully educate people. But others may not be as strong as she is. They may suffer from depression. They may be having postpartum problems. They may be taking out their other child after having suffered a miscarriage. They may have just lost their husband, wife, child, parent, friend. The thing is, no one knows. Adults should know better then to say those things to another human being. I suffer from multiple mental health issues but even with the stress, anxiety, and depression I am dealing with I would never ever say those sorts of things.
I just makes me so upset because it's not just my cousin. It is other people who are dealing with the judgement too. And it's just not right.9 -
snowflake954 wrote: »I'm done. People are jerks and need to grow up. We should be coming together as a society, not judging other people or treating them badly. No one knows the situation of another. They don't know a person's home life, their health problems, or what help they have in their lives.
My cousin had to go to the store the other day. There were things she NEEDED, not just wanted. She had been doing everything in her power to not have to go out and hadn't for quite awhile. Thing is, she also had to take her 1 year old. There was no other choice that day. What she had to deal with, not just the judgemental looks people gave her, but also the things said to her... it's just not right.
1. In parking lot, while putting baby into wrap- a lady walked over to her and told her anyone stupid enough to bring a baby to a store right now needs to have dcs take their kids.
2. Inside store, at the end of an aisle waiting for a lady to exit aisle...she knocks her cart into her's on her way out and told her she was an f*ing moron for not leaving that baby at home
4. A lady saw me from the end of the aisle and yelled down that she was being reckless for her daughter's health and deserved to get sick and die from this, but that she would be the one getting sick from her child instead.
What sort of people think they have the RIGHT to act like this? To say these things to anyone?
I have lost faith.
What your cousin had to put up with is not right. However, people are under stress right now and the worst (but sometimes best) comes out at times like these. I hope she can manage to let it go. Being a mother of a baby right now isn't easy.
My cousin is a strong as heck person and we are using her experience to hopefully educate people. But others may not be as strong as she is. They may suffer from depression. They may be having postpartum problems. They may be taking out their other child after having suffered a miscarriage. They may have just lost their husband, wife, child, parent, friend. The thing is, no one knows. Adults should know better then to say those things to another human being. I suffer from multiple mental health issues but even with the stress, anxiety, and depression I am dealing with I would never ever say those sorts of things.
I just makes me so upset because it's not just my cousin. It is other people who are dealing with the judgement too. And it's just not right.
Can you have someone write up an article for your local newspaper or send in a letter to the editor yourselves? I'll bet there are lots of other parents in the same circumstances as your cousin. Not every parent has a SO or babysitter or anyone they can automatically leave a child home with so they can shop for food.
So sorry she encountered 3 very rude individuals and during the same shopping trip. 8 -
I'm done. People are jerks and need to grow up. We should be coming together as a society, not judging other people or treating them badly. No one knows the situation of another. They don't know a person's home life, their health problems, or what help they have in their lives.
My cousin had to go to the store the other day. There were things she NEEDED, not just wanted. She had been doing everything in her power to not have to go out and hadn't for quite awhile. Thing is, she also had to take her 1 year old. There was no other choice that day. What she had to deal with, not just the judgemental looks people gave her, but also the things said to her... it's just not right.
1. In parking lot, while putting baby into wrap- a lady walked over to her and told her anyone stupid enough to bring a baby to a store right now needs to have dcs take their kids.
2. Inside store, at the end of an aisle waiting for a lady to exit aisle...she knocks her cart into her's on her way out and told her she was an f*ing moron for not leaving that baby at home
4. A lady saw me from the end of the aisle and yelled down that she was being reckless for her daughter's health and deserved to get sick and die from this, but that she would be the one getting sick from her child instead.
What sort of people think they have the RIGHT to act like this? To say these things to anyone?
I have lost faith.
That's very unfortunate. In general I'm finding people to be more accommodating and nice right now, so that experience really sucks.7 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »I'm done. People are jerks and need to grow up. We should be coming together as a society, not judging other people or treating them badly. No one knows the situation of another. They don't know a person's home life, their health problems, or what help they have in their lives.
My cousin had to go to the store the other day. There were things she NEEDED, not just wanted. She had been doing everything in her power to not have to go out and hadn't for quite awhile. Thing is, she also had to take her 1 year old. There was no other choice that day. What she had to deal with, not just the judgemental looks people gave her, but also the things said to her... it's just not right.
1. In parking lot, while putting baby into wrap- a lady walked over to her and told her anyone stupid enough to bring a baby to a store right now needs to have dcs take their kids.
2. Inside store, at the end of an aisle waiting for a lady to exit aisle...she knocks her cart into her's on her way out and told her she was an f*ing moron for not leaving that baby at home
4. A lady saw me from the end of the aisle and yelled down that she was being reckless for her daughter's health and deserved to get sick and die from this, but that she would be the one getting sick from her child instead.
What sort of people think they have the RIGHT to act like this? To say these things to anyone?
I have lost faith.
That's very unfortunate. In general I'm finding people to be more accommodating and nice right now, so that experience really sucks.
This reflects what I see too, but some people may be having issues with the stress/fear/isolation/grief and be lashing out in a way they wouldn't normally.3 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »I'm done. People are jerks and need to grow up. We should be coming together as a society, not judging other people or treating them badly. No one knows the situation of another. They don't know a person's home life, their health problems, or what help they have in their lives.
My cousin had to go to the store the other day. There were things she NEEDED, not just wanted. She had been doing everything in her power to not have to go out and hadn't for quite awhile. Thing is, she also had to take her 1 year old. There was no other choice that day. What she had to deal with, not just the judgemental looks people gave her, but also the things said to her... it's just not right.
1. In parking lot, while putting baby into wrap- a lady walked over to her and told her anyone stupid enough to bring a baby to a store right now needs to have dcs take their kids.
2. Inside store, at the end of an aisle waiting for a lady to exit aisle...she knocks her cart into her's on her way out and told her she was an f*ing moron for not leaving that baby at home
4. A lady saw me from the end of the aisle and yelled down that she was being reckless for her daughter's health and deserved to get sick and die from this, but that she would be the one getting sick from her child instead.
What sort of people think they have the RIGHT to act like this? To say these things to anyone?
I have lost faith.
That's very unfortunate. In general I'm finding people to be more accommodating and nice right now, so that experience really sucks.
This reflects what I see too, but some people may be having issues with the stress/fear/isolation/grief and be lashing out in a way they wouldn't normally.
Or this is just their normal personality, but more emboldened through fear and panic.
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lynn_glenmont wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »I was thinking of holding out one more week, when I'll probably be getting low on dairy too, and then go to see what I can find. I'd been thinking about getting ham of some kind for my home-alone Easter, but from some of the posts on here, it sounds like I might be overly optimistic. Maybe I'll find some canned or frozen pineapple and I can open a can of Spam (spiced ham in a can) and see what I can make out of it.
It really depends where you live. Early on here we were low on paper products and pasta or other dried goods in some places, and dairy in others, but never in meat. And for us things are largely back to normal in the stores now (based on my one trip plus reports on NextDoor).
This is the downside of not going to the grocery store until I really have to -- I don't have a good idea of local grocery conditions (they only reported about that on the local news in the early days; now they have so much more to talk about with new cases, deaths, masks or no masks, ventilators, what's happening in hospitals, navy ships, etc.). However, I've always been very flexible about buying what's on sale or what looks good this week, so I expect I'll be reasonably flexible about buying what happens to be available.
I've not been shopping much either, and only at my local meat market and one delivery, but NextDoor reports conditions in various local stores.
Ah. I've never signed up when they've sent me the info in the mail, because I had heard that in many neighborhoods there's a lot of negativity on NextDoor, and that the way NextDoor works, whoever happens to sign up first to run the local neighborhood NextDoor community has total control? We had an IRL neighborhood community association like that about a decade back, and it pretty much soured me on organized groups at the community level, although I enjoyed a few clean-up-the-neighborhood and neighborhood-watch-patrol before it got ugly. I just talk to my neighbors (from a safe distance these days) and go to block parties and stuff like that. Maybe the next time I pass by somebody on a walk I'll yell to them and ask them if they've been shopping lately and what it was like.
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Our Next Door is pretty good. Right now there are a lot of posts from people offering to help or run errands as well as a map of those who have turned their Free Little Library boxes into sharing boxes. Before all of this the only posts that I saw get poofed were ones complaining about things like people turning their Christmas lights on in mid November or other nonsensical things. The only arguments I have seen have been when the subject of pizza restaurants comes up.
Well, you can't attack people's deeply held religious beliefs. 6 -
Just spoke to someone who lives nearby who has been grocery shopping every week and he said today was the first time he's been able to get milk, eggs, and bread in the same trip. Not TP though. I'm hoping eventually everybody will have so much TP in their homes they'll realize they need the space for other things. Like turning around.6
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lynn_glenmont wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »I was thinking of holding out one more week, when I'll probably be getting low on dairy too, and then go to see what I can find. I'd been thinking about getting ham of some kind for my home-alone Easter, but from some of the posts on here, it sounds like I might be overly optimistic. Maybe I'll find some canned or frozen pineapple and I can open a can of Spam (spiced ham in a can) and see what I can make out of it.
It really depends where you live. Early on here we were low on paper products and pasta or other dried goods in some places, and dairy in others, but never in meat. And for us things are largely back to normal in the stores now (based on my one trip plus reports on NextDoor).
This is the downside of not going to the grocery store until I really have to -- I don't have a good idea of local grocery conditions (they only reported about that on the local news in the early days; now they have so much more to talk about with new cases, deaths, masks or no masks, ventilators, what's happening in hospitals, navy ships, etc.). However, I've always been very flexible about buying what's on sale or what looks good this week, so I expect I'll be reasonably flexible about buying what happens to be available.
I've not been shopping much either, and only at my local meat market and one delivery, but NextDoor reports conditions in various local stores.
Ah. I've never signed up when they've sent me the info in the mail, because I had heard that in many neighborhoods there's a lot of negativity on NextDoor, and that the way NextDoor works, whoever happens to sign up first to run the local neighborhood NextDoor community has total control? We had an IRL neighborhood community association like that about a decade back, and it pretty much soured me on organized groups at the community level, although I enjoyed a few clean-up-the-neighborhood and neighborhood-watch-patrol before it got ugly. I just talk to my neighbors (from a safe distance these days) and go to block parties and stuff like that. Maybe the next time I pass by somebody on a walk I'll yell to them and ask them if they've been shopping lately and what it was like.
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There's more good than bad there in terms of information, at least in my neighborhood and surrounding, based on my experience, but there's a lot of ridiculous judgy-ness and squabbling too (mostly pet-related in normal times, but lately about some things like how to properly socially distance when outside).
I'm not aware of whoever signing up first having total control -- ND has staff that get to make final decisions and who are the only ones who can ban posters. Neighborhood leads do have the ability to vote to close discussions (I only know this because I just looked it up), but there are various ways to become one if you want to be (I do not), and I haven't found the moderating to seem unfair.
Anyway, I'm not recommending it because I'm sure it varies neighborhood to neighborhood and I hate read it a lot of times just to be annoyed at how ridiculous people can be, but it can be very useful, can be positive, and during coronavirus I've found it helpful (it also facilitates neighbors offering help to other neighbors).
Of course, we also have an active community association (as well as block parties), and I like it more than NextDoor (have't noticed the pettier stuff there), and I volunteer with my alderman's office at times, so I'm pretty into my community-level stuff.
Talking to people from across the street if you see them when you are out (I had a brief conversation from that distance with my nextdoor neighbor who was walking her dog and say hi to my neighbors on the other side when they are out in the yard and I'm gardening or taking out the trash) works too, of course! ;-)
Thanks. I was basing my impression on an article or two I read several years back, before I ever got an invitation to to join the local one, so obviously things could have changed, either in the culture of the app or the ND rules, or what I read could have been focusing on the bad cases. Thanks for letting me know it's not all bad. Maybe next time they mail out passcodes I'll try signing in.2 -
My brotherinlaw was just taken to the VA hospital and he has underlying health issues. too. Today my uncle watched his neighbor taken by ambulance, tested corona positive at hospital. Uncle was exposed by eating with neighbor over the weekend. No symptoms whatsover but unable to breathe today. My state, grade F, still no stay-at-home orders. People won't take it seriously until we get those orders. Our grocery store, still bare.23
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lynn_glenmont wrote: »Just spoke to someone who lives nearby who has been grocery shopping every week and he said today was the first time he's been able to get milk, eggs, and bread in the same trip. Not TP though. I'm hoping eventually everybody will have so much TP in their homes they'll realize they need the space for other things. Like turning around.
Food wise, our stores have been more normal, but still missing some things like Ramen and whatnot. I haven't seen TP anywhere and it hasn't been restocked anywhere here as far as I know and there are signs everywhere that they don't know when they'll get any. This baffles me a bit...TP can't possible be something difficult to produce and get to market...it's weird.1 -
In regards to TP, it's not just hoarders , it's that most of us use the bathroom several times a day at work, we are now all home. Nationally that's millions more home bathroom trips. Also most corporate offices buy their supplies elsewhere https://marker.medium.com/what-everyones-getting-wrong-about-the-toilet-paper-shortage-c812e1358fe08
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lynn_glenmont wrote: »Just spoke to someone who lives nearby who has been grocery shopping every week and he said today was the first time he's been able to get milk, eggs, and bread in the same trip. Not TP though. I'm hoping eventually everybody will have so much TP in their homes they'll realize they need the space for other things. Like turning around.
I may have posted this already, but early on I read someone (elsewhere) complaining that HomeDepot was shockingly full and wondering if everyone was building an extension to house all their new TP.6 -
I ran a couple of errands on Friday. Never thought I would see the day where eggs would be $3.00 a dozen and gas would be 99¢ a gallon. Normally those prices are flipped.11
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I was at the grocery today. Still no TP or frozen vegetables, but lots of meat. The bread was on sale (BOGO) so it was almost out. About 1/3 of the customers wore masks and all of the clerks. It wasn't crowded so I left my kerchief in my pocket.2
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Tried grocery pickup today and a list as long as my arm of stuff they couldn’t get including all meat. However when my husband went in the meat was fine, I don’t know whether they had just restocked or that the pickers just are honestly past caring. Still no cleaning products of any kind, no bread of any kind, no paper products.
Kroger grocery pickers not wearing masks or gloves and not social distancing. Saw one other customer wearing a mask. Very much everyone just shopping as usual. Sat in the car waiting for my husband listening to people without masks walk past coughing loudly. Streets completely full of traffic despite stay at home order. Wish there was some way to ship all those who dgaf to their own island nation away from the rest of us.10 -
Someone in my neighborhood has sent a text out inviting people to a gathering in one of our pocket parks. Seriously?
We’ve seen neighbors having guests over for dinner, sitting around the fire pit, gathering on porches. And this is a high income, well educated neighborhood. SMH.
Regarding NextDoor, it was fabulous in our old neighborhood. We even caught a troublesome car burglar via ND.
In our new neighborhood, which is only eight miles away, it’s just awful. Some woman went on asking for items because she was short of cash, and had small children. She got such an overwhelming response that it turned into a request almost every week: free car repairs, needed a washer, needed help with rent, groceries. Whenever someone would try to reel her in, others would jump down their throat. Eventually all the worthwhile posters moved to a FB group and ND has been moribund ever since.2 -
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springlering62 wrote: »Someone in my neighborhood has sent a text out inviting people to a gathering in one of our pocket parks. Seriously?
We’ve seen neighbors having guests over for dinner, sitting around the fire pit, gathering on porches. And this is a high income, well educated neighborhood. SMH.
Regarding NextDoor, it was fabulous in our old neighborhood. We even caught a troublesome car burglar via ND.
In our new neighborhood, which is only eight miles away, it’s just awful. Some woman went on asking for items because she was short of cash, and had small children. She got such an overwhelming response that it turned into a request almost every week: free car repairs, needed a washer, needed help with rent, groceries. Whenever someone would try to reel her in, others would jump down their throat. Eventually all the worthwhile posters moved to a FB group and ND has been moribund ever since.
Are you in North Dakota? I have cousins, aunts, and uncles in South Dakota and they're still touting that this is a Biden or otherwise Democrat fix and a hoax. I don't want to get political at all, but that is bothersome. They seriously think Biden infected the entire world to get elected and that is their entire political position at this point..,6 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »springlering62 wrote: »Someone in my neighborhood has sent a text out inviting people to a gathering in one of our pocket parks. Seriously?
We’ve seen neighbors having guests over for dinner, sitting around the fire pit, gathering on porches. And this is a high income, well educated neighborhood. SMH.
Regarding NextDoor, it was fabulous in our old neighborhood. We even caught a troublesome car burglar via ND.
In our new neighborhood, which is only eight miles away, it’s just awful. Some woman went on asking for items because she was short of cash, and had small children. She got such an overwhelming response that it turned into a request almost every week: free car repairs, needed a washer, needed help with rent, groceries. Whenever someone would try to reel her in, others would jump down their throat. Eventually all the worthwhile posters moved to a FB group and ND has been moribund ever since.
Are you in North Dakota? I have cousins, aunts, and uncles in South Dakota and they're still touting that this is a Biden or otherwise Democrat fix and a hoax. I don't want to get political at all, but that is bothersome. They seriously think Biden infected the entire world to get elected and that is their entire political position at this point..,
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Chef_Barbell wrote: »
That is concerning... People as vectors - weird when you think about it. I read an article earlier today about cats being able to become infected, but the study had only been on cats who were intentionally injected with the virus (which makes me mad). And the earlier articles about dogs being susceptible were concerning as well. I have two giant dogs, three cats, nine chickens... Ok. A zoo. I have a zoo. Anyway, the idea that we may be able to make our pets sick really bothers me.
Hope you're staying sane and aren't going too stir-crazy @Chef_Barbell.9 -
Last time I mentioned in this thread that I thought I might have gotten Covid back in late November ( and Ann rolled her eyes at me ) I hesitated to mention that my cat got really sick about a week after I had been coughing on her all night long. I thought I was going to lose her. I managed to syringe feed her for 10 days, and gave her sub-q fluids daily for two weeks and she recovered.
JS.
Again...neither of us went to the doctor. I can't prove it. Just another suspicious link.4 -
Our NextDoor is a weird mix of BrentwoodStrong (our community online center for those who need help and those who have help to give) and community service announcements along with vulger rants blaming the current situation on political leaders on both sides, or 5G towers, or international plots to destroy America, or aliens (to be fair, that one was speculation). Along with URGENT posts to let everyone know there's a dog wandering the neighborhood who looks like it might be lost.3
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In regards to TP, it's not just hoarders , it's that most of us use the bathroom several times a day at work, we are now all home. Nationally that's millions more home bathroom trips. Also most corporate offices buy their supplies elsewhere https://marker.medium.com/what-everyones-getting-wrong-about-the-toilet-paper-shortage-c812e1358fe0
I've been experiencing this! A 6 pack of double rolls usually gets me well over a month because I work 10 hours a day, 5 days a week. But since I've been working from home, my stash is thinning quickly. I have 2 toilet paper holders for the two toilets in the house; each has about 2 rolls left. I have 1 6 pack I bought before all the insanity started. And I haven't seen anything but Dollar General single ply 4 packs in over 3 weeks now. I'm getting a little nervous here!
Thankfully, my sister works at Krogers and she told me she was able to snag a 12 pack today when they put out the pallet, so if I run completely out, I've got a backup for a couple of rolls at least.2 -
lynn_glenmont wrote: »Just spoke to someone who lives nearby who has been grocery shopping every week and he said today was the first time he's been able to get milk, eggs, and bread in the same trip. Not TP though. I'm hoping eventually everybody will have so much TP in their homes they'll realize they need the space for other things. Like turning around.
I may have posted this already, but early on I read someone (elsewhere) complaining that HomeDepot was shockingly full and wondering if everyone was building an extension to house all their new TP.
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Re the toilet paper..one time I read that someone couldn’t believe how much tp & coffee they went thru after retiring. Would be the same with everyone home.4
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I'm not convinced that the TP shortage is due to people increasing use at home. I would think that the supply chain can handle the 50% of people spending 10-12 hours more at home. Especially where I live, where people seem to be moving about as much as always, I'm guessing the number of people staying home is more like 20% rather than 50%. And yet, there has been no TP in stores I've visited for weeks. When I look online, I can find some that will ship late May or early June... which means it doesn't actually exist yet. So we are basically saying that 20%-50% of the population staying home 40% more of the time is enough to have sucked the entire supply chain dry so there is nothing left in stores, on trucks, nor in warehouses. And there will be no more for months. Some people spending some more hours at home just doesn't make sense that it could cause this level of shortage. There are definitely hoarders severe enough to have made significant impacts on supply.5
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i went out this evening for what's become my Sunday carry-out ritual to support local restaurants and I happened to go to a barbecue place that was in a strip mall that had a grocery store, and I got to thinking about the rationale of trying to not go out too often (less chance of having car trouble or an accident that would mean someone would have to come help you), and about the conversation I had with someone nearby earlier today that sounded like maybe grocery stores were starting to have things back in stock, so I broke my three-week grocery-shopping fast and went in.
There was lots of fresh produce, so I got what I thought I could eat before it goes bad (mostly fruit and bell peppers, as I had ordered greens from the barbecue place). There were no eggs. There wasn't a lot of fresh dairy milk, and most of it was either chocolate (which I didn't want) or lactose-free (which I don't need), so I got some unsweetened soy milk instead. It looked like there was a fair amount of bread available, but I just baked a loaf yesterday (sprouted wheat with dried fruit, nuts, and seeds), so I didn't really examine what was available. The paper goods aisle was practically empty. No TP, a few boxes of Kleenex, and a couple of packages of paper towels.
But what struck me was how uncomfortable I was being around the customers. The staff all had masks, and I was wearing a makeshift cloth mask, but only about half of the other customers had masks, and the ones that didn't have masks seemed to be making zero effort to maintain six-feet of distance, and they would walk right past me while they were talking -- droplets!! Ack! I felt like Lucy when Snoopy would lick her face. Dog germs! Covid germs! Honestly, I was exhausted from the stress/anxiety by the time I left the store, so I guess I won't be in a big hurry to go back.
ETA -- the grocery was making announcements over the loud speaker reminding folks to keep six feet of distance. (They weren't controlling how many people were coming in but it wasn't crowded.)9 -
JustSomeEm wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »
That is concerning... People as vectors - weird when you think about it. I read an article earlier today about cats being able to become infected, but the study had only been on cats who were intentionally injected with the virus (which makes me mad). And the earlier articles about dogs being susceptible were concerning as well. I have two giant dogs, three cats, nine chickens... Ok. A zoo. I have a zoo. Anyway, the idea that we may be able to make our pets sick really bothers me.
Hope you're staying sane and aren't going too stir-crazy @Chef_Barbell.
People as vectors does sound weird. I read an article about viruses tonight. Part of the article is pasted below followed with some questions/thoughts that I have about SARS-CoV-2.
BY Eva Emerson OCTOBER 30, 1998
Are viruses alive? After more than 25 years of studying the tiny disease-carrying microbes, Michael Lai thinks so.
“Viruses are very intelligent. They can think. They do things that we do not expect. They adapt to the environment. They change themselves in order to survive,” said Lai, professor of molecular microbiology and immunology and a Howard Hughes Medical Institute Investigator.
The reason why some high school biology teachers might argue with his stance, Lai notes, is that a virus can be crystallized similar to nonliving matter. Plus, viruses depend on other living things to reproduce.
Viruses have ways to enter the human body (through the nasal passages, mouth, skin or via injection). Many have evolved defenses to help them evade the immune system. Viruses that cause infection in humans hold a “key” that allows them to unlock normal molecules (called viral receptors) on a human cell surface and slip inside.
Once in, viruses commandeer the cell’s nucleic acid and protein-making machinery, so that more copies of the virus can be made.......
One thing that has always interested me is how "intelligent" animals or any life form great or small seem to be and the the "why" of their existence.
SARS-CoV-2 has been around for a while most likely but it has recently gained the attention of the entire world and the greatest minds of our time. It is as if we hold SARS-CoV-2 with high regard and have made many posts about SARS-CoV-2 and the people leading the war on SARS-CoV-2 and we do a body count of those who lose their battle with SARS-CoV-2 and count those that survived the attack made by SARS-CoV-2.
We use SARS-CoV-2 as reasons to help people which we have never met. We use SARS-CoV-2 as reasons to attack people we have never met. SARS-CoV-2 is living rent free in our heads and must be calling the shots since we are trying to read its mind as to its next move like "let us guess how many of us that SARS-CoV-2 will kill tomorrow.
We agree that SARS-CoV-2 per satellite images has been helping Mother Nature clean up her home. Smog is dissipating, polluted streams are starting to run more clear. Wild animals are now seen walking some city streets.
We can clearly see we are not needed to fix the messes that we have made of nature. Clearly nature can fix everything once man is removed from the picture just fine by herself.
What would we do if we had to deal with both SARS-CoV-2 and locust at the same time as some of the least prepared peoples of the world are struggling with tonight.
Maybe Dotty Pardon is on to something when she talks about SARS-CoV-2 maybe is our wake-up call. SARS-CoV-2 is in the drivers seat tonight and like the feather in Forrest Gump tonight with us running around like a chicken after having its head chopped off.
Tonight who is in charge of the current events, the leaders of the known world or SARS-CoV-2? Does Man have dominion over the world tonight or it that just something our Ego made up long ago and we are still listening to that false narrative?2
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