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I got my hair cut the middle of February. It was a very short cut, not what I like but what I needed because I had my right arm in a cast. I am glad that I did it because I managed to keep the hair under control for the last 5 months.
The hair salon was open last month but I let it got and by the time that I was ready, it closed again. I don't know what they do, and how they do it or what kind of safety protocol the salon has in place. But I don't color my hair and I shampoo it at home anyways, and styling will not be required if the saloon doesn't offer it. I just needed it shorter and with better shape. My concern is that the stylists would do a hurry-up job to limit exposure.
I just read the California governor decided to open the hair salons but only and according with the decision of the local authorities, and if the infections and hospitalizations have not increased in the last week. I haven't hear anything about my county yet. I may turn into a very white hair Lady Godiva....
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Thanks for all the dentist replies. I felt cheated out of the full cleaning; you know how when you're done your teeth always feel so good? It wasn't happening this time. But I'm glad to read some places aren't doing the polishing so I know mine isn't the only one. I've always had the utmost faith in my dentist so I was feeling a bit disheartened.
On another note, I am so sick of hearing/reading people's disbelief that this is anything to worry about. A post I read this a.m., on another forum, said 'sickness and death are a part of life'. Well yeh, but I'm not jumping off a cliff anytime soon either. Grrrr. There are simply too many people out and about who still feel that way. And it seems people aren't going to learn until they're personally affected.9 -
gradchica27 wrote: »My hair was overdue for a cut pre-lockdown (usually get an annual cut in sept, lockdown started in March) and I finally caved yesterday to get a cut. My hair was past my bra line, and it’s so thick and curly/wavy I couldn’t brush or comb it...it was a snarled mess I would just pull back in a bun.i met saying I’d wait this out... Maybe weekly I would spend the time and pain and half a bottle of conditioner to laboriously work out all the knots with my fingers in the shower. What finally broke me was something (I think) bit me on the scalp and it felt like half my head was on fire. I could not find the bite—trying to separate the hair at the scalp resulted in the ends being tangled and in the way and me not being able to see/feel the area to apply ointment. Two nights of intense itching and pain broke me. Darn you, horsefly.
So haircut experience: telephone screening for symptoms, temp check and hand sanitizer at the door, and I was the only one in the huge salon (plus stylist and one receptionist, at least 20’ away, there are two aisles of 4 chairs per side, so normally room for 16 cuts, plus the shampoo area and waiting area). Doors open. Everyone masked the whole time. No shampoo/style, just cut and out. I have no idea how they’re staying in business at all. I’m grateful I can now actually get through my hair. Found bite, can now enjoy sweet relief and, I hope, sleep.
I finally broke down and let my husband cut my hair. He surprised me and did a really decent job. In your situation, I think you made a reasonable decision -- once your hair is keeping you from being able to sleep, it's time to take action.6 -
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Thanks for all the dentist replies. I felt cheated out of the full cleaning; you know how when you're done your teeth always feel so good? It wasn't happening this time. But I'm glad to read some places aren't doing the polishing so I know mine isn't the only one. I've always had the utmost faith in my dentist so I was feeling a bit disheartened.
On another note, I am so sick of hearing/reading people's disbelief that this is anything to worry about. A post I read this a.m., on another forum, said 'sickness and death are a part of life'. Well yeh, but I'm not jumping off a cliff anytime soon either. Grrrr. There are simply too many people out and about who still feel that way. And it seems people aren't going to learn until they're personally affected.
The thing that's crazy is there seems to be some evidence that even those who get mild cases can have unexpected long term damage, like lung scarring, thickened blood, reduced kidney function. This idea some people have that it's no big deal if healthy people get it is premature. Especially in the US where insurance companies could consider a positive covid test as a pre-existing condition.
There are several "syndromes" related to viruses that are essentially unexplained life-long health issues that set in after someone successfully fights off the virus (like post-polio syndrome). One theory about Chronic Fatigue is that it is a post-virus syndrome of some kind. There are already cases in other countries where tracing and follow up are rigorous of younger people who had mild covid cases still struggling with fatigue months later and turning up to have lung scarring.
So ummmm, that's my uplifting post for the day I wish dealing with the hard truth was the rule here in the US though, I think we'd be in a better spot if everyone was aware and dealing appropriately.13 -
Thanks for all the dentist replies. I felt cheated out of the full cleaning; you know how when you're done your teeth always feel so good? It wasn't happening this time. But I'm glad to read some places aren't doing the polishing so I know mine isn't the only one. I've always had the utmost faith in my dentist so I was feeling a bit disheartened.
On another note, I am so sick of hearing/reading people's disbelief that this is anything to worry about. A post I read this a.m., on another forum, said 'sickness and death are a part of life'. Well yeh, but I'm not jumping off a cliff anytime soon either. Grrrr. There are simply too many people out and about who still feel that way. And it seems people aren't going to learn until they're personally affected.
It's annoying...but at the same time I do kind of understand that mentality and thinking. It's really an invisible enemy and most people I know don't know anyone who even knows anyone who has been affected...so it doesn't feel real. I would say most of the naysayers that I know either personally or from other social media interactions have not been impacted by the virus...but they've been heavily impacted by the shutdown and restrictions with job loss and unemployment running out and unable to pay their bills and mortgages or rent...for these people, these things are for more real and clearly not invisible. Then of course, you do have the people that just want to whine and complain and open everything back up full on...but at the same time refuse to do simple, rational things like social distancing, wearing a mask when you can't social distance, and avoid large gatherings. Those are the one's that sicken me the most. At least the people I know personally who are kinda meh about this are still doing their part in regards to masking up and social distancing.
In regards to sickness and death being a part of life...well, I feel that at least in NM we have gone from flatten the curve and buy some time to learn and figure some things out to "save everyone". To me, that is simply not realistic. It is a pandemic and people are going to die and are dying and you absolutely cannot save everyone or quarantine this thing to zero.
I was listening to a Dr. the other day and he was talking about the price of our response and that the initial response was practical and necessary, but continued stringent lockdown measures would likely cause far more overall damage than the virus. He compared it to an iceberg where C19 and the hospitalizations and deaths were the part above the water that everyone is focused on, while losing focus of the huge mass of ice under the water that is increase mental health issues, increased substance abuse, increased rates of suicide, increased domestic violence and child abuse, people lacking needed healthcare because they either won't go to the hospital or can't because procedures are shut down, mass unemployment, devastated economies, etc. I didn't agree with everything he said...but I agreed with most of it. He certainly wasn't advocating for just opening everything up full on...but yes, starting to open things back up, including schools. He heavily advocated for social distancing, wearing masks where you couldn't social distance, avoiding large crowds, washing hands, and at risk people taking additional precautions.6 -
janejellyroll wrote: »gradchica27 wrote: »My hair was overdue for a cut pre-lockdown (usually get an annual cut in sept, lockdown started in March) and I finally caved yesterday to get a cut. My hair was past my bra line, and it’s so thick and curly/wavy I couldn’t brush or comb it...it was a snarled mess I would just pull back in a bun.i met saying I’d wait this out... Maybe weekly I would spend the time and pain and half a bottle of conditioner to laboriously work out all the knots with my fingers in the shower. What finally broke me was something (I think) bit me on the scalp and it felt like half my head was on fire. I could not find the bite—trying to separate the hair at the scalp resulted in the ends being tangled and in the way and me not being able to see/feel the area to apply ointment. Two nights of intense itching and pain broke me. Darn you, horsefly.
So haircut experience: telephone screening for symptoms, temp check and hand sanitizer at the door, and I was the only one in the huge salon (plus stylist and one receptionist, at least 20’ away, there are two aisles of 4 chairs per side, so normally room for 16 cuts, plus the shampoo area and waiting area). Doors open. Everyone masked the whole time. No shampoo/style, just cut and out. I have no idea how they’re staying in business at all. I’m grateful I can now actually get through my hair. Found bite, can now enjoy sweet relief and, I hope, sleep.
I finally broke down and let my husband cut my hair. He surprised me and did a really decent job. In your situation, I think you made a reasonable decision -- once your hair is keeping you from being able to sleep, it's time to take action.
Agreed!
My OH trimmed my bangs once and is cutting his own hair. I've trimmed my bangs a few times.2 -
https://miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article244375897.html
'A concert is being held to learn how COVID-19 spreads at large events. Here’s how'
This may be interesting.1 -
Sadly I realized today that the question soon is not going to be “do you know anyone who has or knows someone sick or died from Covid19?” to the new question “Do you know anyone who does not?”. 😣9
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Thanks for all the dentist replies. I felt cheated out of the full cleaning; you know how when you're done your teeth always feel so good? It wasn't happening this time. But I'm glad to read some places aren't doing the polishing so I know mine isn't the only one. I've always had the utmost faith in my dentist so I was feeling a bit disheartened.
On another note, I am so sick of hearing/reading people's disbelief that this is anything to worry about. A post I read this a.m., on another forum, said 'sickness and death are a part of life'. Well yeh, but I'm not jumping off a cliff anytime soon either. Grrrr. There are simply too many people out and about who still feel that way. And it seems people aren't going to learn until they're personally affected.
The thing that's crazy is there seems to be some evidence that even those who get mild cases can have unexpected long term damage, like lung scarring, thickened blood, reduced kidney function. This idea some people have that it's no big deal if healthy people get it is premature. Especially in the US where insurance companies could consider a positive covid test as a pre-existing condition.
There are several "syndromes" related to viruses that are essentially unexplained life-long health issues that set in after someone successfully fights off the virus (like post-polio syndrome). One theory about Chronic Fatigue is that it is a post-virus syndrome of some kind. There are already cases in other countries where tracing and follow up are rigorous of younger people who had mild covid cases still struggling with fatigue months later and turning up to have lung scarring.
So ummmm, that's my uplifting post for the day I wish dealing with the hard truth was the rule here in the US though, I think we'd be in a better spot if everyone was aware and dealing appropriately.
I was strong and healthy, until I wasn’t. I went from easy A’s to struggling to make C’s. I couldn’t sleep at night, at all, for nearly 6 months, but couldn’t stay awake during the day. My near photographic memory was gone, replaced with fog and blur. It was awful. I have misty gotten used to it, but I still remember what life was like before hand and long to be “normal” but know it likely will never happen.
I don’t doubt that this could carry long term effects for some people while for others they come through unscathed.32 -
Thanks for all the dentist replies. I felt cheated out of the full cleaning; you know how when you're done your teeth always feel so good? It wasn't happening this time. But I'm glad to read some places aren't doing the polishing so I know mine isn't the only one. I've always had the utmost faith in my dentist so I was feeling a bit disheartened.
On another note, I am so sick of hearing/reading people's disbelief that this is anything to worry about. A post I read this a.m., on another forum, said 'sickness and death are a part of life'. Well yeh, but I'm not jumping off a cliff anytime soon either. Grrrr. There are simply too many people out and about who still feel that way. And it seems people aren't going to learn until they're personally affected.
The thing that's crazy is there seems to be some evidence that even those who get mild cases can have unexpected long term damage, like lung scarring, thickened blood, reduced kidney function. This idea some people have that it's no big deal if healthy people get it is premature. Especially in the US where insurance companies could consider a positive covid test as a pre-existing condition.
There are several "syndromes" related to viruses that are essentially unexplained life-long health issues that set in after someone successfully fights off the virus (like post-polio syndrome). One theory about Chronic Fatigue is that it is a post-virus syndrome of some kind. There are already cases in other countries where tracing and follow up are rigorous of younger people who had mild covid cases still struggling with fatigue months later and turning up to have lung scarring.
So ummmm, that's my uplifting post for the day I wish dealing with the hard truth was the rule here in the US though, I think we'd be in a better spot if everyone was aware and dealing appropriately.
This point is not made often enough. There is a too-common line of thinking that if infected, there are only two possible outcomes...either you'll die, or you'll recover and be perfectly fine. As you say, there are many cases of lasting effects, and since this is a new virus, we have no idea what effect that will have on the life expectancy of people who have been infected.14 -
moonangel12 wrote: »Thanks for all the dentist replies. I felt cheated out of the full cleaning; you know how when you're done your teeth always feel so good? It wasn't happening this time. But I'm glad to read some places aren't doing the polishing so I know mine isn't the only one. I've always had the utmost faith in my dentist so I was feeling a bit disheartened.
On another note, I am so sick of hearing/reading people's disbelief that this is anything to worry about. A post I read this a.m., on another forum, said 'sickness and death are a part of life'. Well yeh, but I'm not jumping off a cliff anytime soon either. Grrrr. There are simply too many people out and about who still feel that way. And it seems people aren't going to learn until they're personally affected.
The thing that's crazy is there seems to be some evidence that even those who get mild cases can have unexpected long term damage, like lung scarring, thickened blood, reduced kidney function. This idea some people have that it's no big deal if healthy people get it is premature. Especially in the US where insurance companies could consider a positive covid test as a pre-existing condition.
There are several "syndromes" related to viruses that are essentially unexplained life-long health issues that set in after someone successfully fights off the virus (like post-polio syndrome). One theory about Chronic Fatigue is that it is a post-virus syndrome of some kind. There are already cases in other countries where tracing and follow up are rigorous of younger people who had mild covid cases still struggling with fatigue months later and turning up to have lung scarring.
So ummmm, that's my uplifting post for the day I wish dealing with the hard truth was the rule here in the US though, I think we'd be in a better spot if everyone was aware and dealing appropriately.
I was strong and healthy, until I wasn’t. I went from easy A’s to struggling to make C’s. I couldn’t sleep at night, at all, for nearly 6 months, but couldn’t stay awake during the day. My near photographic memory was gone, replaced with fog and blur. It was awful. I have misty gotten used to it, but I still remember what life was like before hand and long to be “normal” but know it likely will never happen.
I don’t doubt that this could carry long term effects for some people while for others they come through unscathed.
Hey, me too! Except I was in college when I got mono. It took ten years but eventually I was diagnosed with “lupus-like syndrome,” which is a bucket category for autoimmune disease, not quite like any other. Apparently mono triggers it for a subset of people. In my case the primary symptom is vasculitis.
Pro tip, just in case anyone reading this is struggling to get a diagnosis for years of seemingly unrelated conditions. Ask for a sed rate test. It’s inexpensive and although it isn’t specific enough for a diagnosis, if it’s abnormal it will force the doctors to admit that it’s not all in your head.
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^^^Such good info, R.M. and M.A.2
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rheddmobile wrote: »moonangel12 wrote: »Thanks for all the dentist replies. I felt cheated out of the full cleaning; you know how when you're done your teeth always feel so good? It wasn't happening this time. But I'm glad to read some places aren't doing the polishing so I know mine isn't the only one. I've always had the utmost faith in my dentist so I was feeling a bit disheartened.
On another note, I am so sick of hearing/reading people's disbelief that this is anything to worry about. A post I read this a.m., on another forum, said 'sickness and death are a part of life'. Well yeh, but I'm not jumping off a cliff anytime soon either. Grrrr. There are simply too many people out and about who still feel that way. And it seems people aren't going to learn until they're personally affected.
The thing that's crazy is there seems to be some evidence that even those who get mild cases can have unexpected long term damage, like lung scarring, thickened blood, reduced kidney function. This idea some people have that it's no big deal if healthy people get it is premature. Especially in the US where insurance companies could consider a positive covid test as a pre-existing condition.
There are several "syndromes" related to viruses that are essentially unexplained life-long health issues that set in after someone successfully fights off the virus (like post-polio syndrome). One theory about Chronic Fatigue is that it is a post-virus syndrome of some kind. There are already cases in other countries where tracing and follow up are rigorous of younger people who had mild covid cases still struggling with fatigue months later and turning up to have lung scarring.
So ummmm, that's my uplifting post for the day I wish dealing with the hard truth was the rule here in the US though, I think we'd be in a better spot if everyone was aware and dealing appropriately.
I was strong and healthy, until I wasn’t. I went from easy A’s to struggling to make C’s. I couldn’t sleep at night, at all, for nearly 6 months, but couldn’t stay awake during the day. My near photographic memory was gone, replaced with fog and blur. It was awful. I have misty gotten used to it, but I still remember what life was like before hand and long to be “normal” but know it likely will never happen.
I don’t doubt that this could carry long term effects for some people while for others they come through unscathed.
Hey, me too! Except I was in college when I got mono. It took ten years but eventually I was diagnosed with “lupus-like syndrome,” which is a bucket category for autoimmune disease, not quite like any other. Apparently mono triggers it for a subset of people. In my case the primary symptom is vasculitis.
Pro tip, just in case anyone reading this is struggling to get a diagnosis for years of seemingly unrelated conditions. Ask for a sed rate test. It’s inexpensive and although it isn’t specific enough for a diagnosis, if it’s abnormal it will force the doctors to admit that it’s not all in your head.
Anyway... don’t want to derail the thread but wanted to share, and it’s nice to hear from someone else who has BTDT (not that I wish it one anyone).
ETA: there is a secondary danger that I never anticipated, but after so many years with a glitchy body of random, chronic symptoms I tend to ignore things... to a fault. In 2018 I almost had colon cancer... doctor said I had an angel on my shoulder to catch it when we did, it likely would have been full on cancer within the year. At 33 years old. (Her PA was dismissive of symptoms due to my age, thankfully I persisted long enough for her to consent to a colonoscopy... and I made that fact known to the doctor).
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I used to live in this county: https://www.kmaland.com/news/concerns-aired-over-enforcing-quarantine-for-covid-19-cases-in-page-county/article_f6efdc78-cb70-11ea-a2f9-d332f55a31b8.html#utm_campaign=blox&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social
Short story: rural SW Iowa county has people who test positive and then refuse to quarantine. They were talking about if they should do something like issue a citation. At this point they decided that no, they are not going to do anything when a person who tests positive refuses to self-quarantine.5 -
I just went out for a run (Dyer County, TN), which sucked, heat index was somewhere around 106F. So with the mask mandate in my county, I took a buff around my neck and pulled it up when I was within 6 feet of others, as is the law. There was some jerk who parked his truck at the park right next to the path. This isn't a parking spot, but they let people just put their vehicles anywhere at this park, so he put it in the grass between a bench and the path, literally right next to the paved walking/running path. And he was sitting in his truck with the window down smoking. Since we are exempt from the mask mandate in private vehicles, he had a loophole that allowed him to be there blowing smoke in my face as I ran past while I was required to wear a mask. Nobody else I ran past on the path even had a mask to use to cover their mouth and nose. But when cops who have publicly said they won't enforce the mask mandate, what should I expect?11
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T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »
Short story: rural SW Iowa county has people who test positive and then refuse to quarantine. They were talking about if they should do something like issue a citation. At this point they decided that no, they are not going to do anything when a person who tests positive refuses to self-quarantine.
There are huge fines for that in Canada, under the Quarantine Act, which was put into effect some time in March or April.
A woman I know returned from travel outside the country (mandatory 14 day self-isolation) and was warned of fines up to $1 million if she didn't comply. That's not even someone who's tested positive. You're probably subject to detention if you're actually positive and not quarantining.6 -
T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »
Short story: rural SW Iowa county has people who test positive and then refuse to quarantine. They were talking about if they should do something like issue a citation. At this point they decided that no, they are not going to do anything when a person who tests positive refuses to self-quarantine.
There are huge fines for that in Canada, under the Quarantine Act, which was put into effect some time in March or April.
A woman I know returned from travel outside the country (mandatory 14 day self-isolation) and was warned of fines up to $1 million if she didn't comply. That's not even someone who's tested positive. You're probably subject to detention if you're actually positive and not quarantining.
It sounds like the law in Iowa allows for those people to be fined (I'm sure it isn't anywhere close to $1 million), but they are just deciding not to do anything anyway.0 -
Am I hearing right, Masks are being supported from the top. Best wishes to everyone.1
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T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »
Short story: rural SW Iowa county has people who test positive and then refuse to quarantine. They were talking about if they should do something like issue a citation. At this point they decided that no, they are not going to do anything when a person who tests positive refuses to self-quarantine.
There are huge fines for that in Canada, under the Quarantine Act, which was put into effect some time in March or April.
A woman I know returned from travel outside the country (mandatory 14 day self-isolation) and was warned of fines up to $1 million if she didn't comply. That's not even someone who's tested positive. You're probably subject to detention if you're actually positive and not quarantining.
It sounds like the law in Iowa allows for those people to be fined (I'm sure it isn't anywhere close to $1 million), but they are just deciding not to do anything anyway.
I have heard of people being fined in other provinces for violating the 14 day self-isolation upon entering the country, although I don't think it was anywhere near the maximum amount. At least it's being enforced to some extent.1
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