Strict calories deficit: not losing weight!!!!!
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You are rite, many species adopted well on earth along with humans. What happens to humans now? Why only humans suffer diabetis and weight gain problems vs. wild animals? Notice, domesticated animals like dogs and cats also got it. They suffer heart attacks, arthritis, canser, diabetis like humans.0
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I think this thread has officially been all over the place.9
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You are rite, many species adopted well on earth along with humans. What happens to humans now? Why only humans suffer diabetis and weight gain problems vs. wild animals? Notice, domesticated animals like dogs and cats also got it. They suffer heart attacks, arthritis, canser, diabetis like humans.
You answered your own question. Humans aren't the only animals who gain excess weight and suffer from the illnesses associated with it. Domesticated animals also can experience it, as well as wild animals in captivity.
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dragon_girl26 wrote: »I think this thread has officially been all over the place.
The main point being that Oreos are delicious though, right??10 -
Your BMR is 1500? Why won't you post your weight but post a whole lot of other stuff?1
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Go_Deskercise wrote: »dragon_girl26 wrote: »I think this thread has officially been all over the place.
The main point being that Oreos are delicious though, right??
Oreos crumbled up into real vanilla ice cream. That's where it's at.6 -
ChristopherLimoges wrote: »Your BMR is 1500? Why won't you post your weight but post a whole lot of other stuff?bethanyjxx wrote: »tiptoethruthetulips wrote: »How tall are you and what do you currently weigh?
Hi! Thanks for replying! I am 5''7 and 156 pounds3 -
I would suggest your meals be as plain as possible before anything else.
Complex carbs, plain.
Protein, plain and lean(but beware of even chicken breasts, consistently), suspended broiled/baked.
Fats, are more difficult, hence methods of cooking prior to this macro. Try to use low amounts and reduce saturated and trans fats?2 -
ChristopherLimoges wrote: »I would suggest your meals be as plain as possible before anything else.
Complex carbs, plain.
Protein, plain and lean(but beware of even chicken breasts, consistently), suspended broiled/baked.
Fats, are more difficult, hence methods of cooking prior to this macro. Try to use low amounts and reduce saturated and trans fats?
Sound advice imho. I can post a crap ton of research that supports this advice. Reduction of food variety has shown to decrease intake in ad librium studies. There is a great amount of evidence that restricting a macronutrient effects intakes. For this instance, we are just jerking around here. OP is not willing to give out the info needed to help. I am personally calling this thread dead....4 -
Go_Deskercise wrote: »dragon_girl26 wrote: »I think this thread has officially been all over the place.
The main point being that Oreos are delicious though, right??
Absolutely..what other take away could we possibly need?2 -
psychod787 wrote: »OP is not willing to give out the info needed to help. I am personally calling this thread dead....
I'm not sure the OP is unwilling to do anything. When asked for her height and weight, early on, she responded. I think the thread got derailed as a result of comments posted by someone else who IS unwilling to share info.
OP, see my questions above, give your answers in one post and perhaps you'll get some info that will help from people who have seen pretty much everything before.3 -
bethanyjxx wrote: »tiptoethruthetulips wrote: »How tall are you and what do you currently weigh?
Hi! Thanks for replying! I am 5''7 and 156 pounds
This puts you in the normal normal bmi range (I make your bmi 24.4). I wonder, what is your goal weight? You probably can't expect to lose very fast anyway with a normal bmi. Also to me (at four inches taller), 1300 seems quite low as a calorie intake for your height.
It does seem to me that the bloating might well have something to do with what you are epxeriencing, and i also wonder if you have een a doctor?1 -
This thread got me like
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msalicia07 wrote: »This thread got me like
So..... you're the elephant in the room... 😳4 -
psychod787 wrote: »msalicia07 wrote: »This thread got me like
So..... you're the elephant in the room... 😳
Just trying to flex my Halloween costume early 😏 NBD
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msalicia07 wrote: »psychod787 wrote: »msalicia07 wrote: »This thread got me like
So..... you're the elephant in the room... 😳
Just trying to flex my Halloween costume early 😏 NBD
Going as a fat cat?🤔1 -
psychod787 wrote: »ChristopherLimoges wrote: »I would suggest your meals be as plain as possible before anything else.
Complex carbs, plain.
Protein, plain and lean(but beware of even chicken breasts, consistently), suspended broiled/baked.
Fats, are more difficult, hence methods of cooking prior to this macro. Try to use low amounts and reduce saturated and trans fats?
Sound advice imho. I can post a crap ton of research that supports this advice. Reduction of food variety has shown to decrease intake in ad librium studies. There is a great amount of evidence that restricting a macronutrient effects intakes. For this instance, we are just jerking around here. OP is not willing to give out the info needed to help. I am personally calling this thread dead....
There may be ample research evidence for the effectiveness of eating in a boring or sub-pleasant way for weight management, but to me it sounds like a miserable strategy to undertake, unless truly, truly essential. I suspect I may have non-standard tastes, but IMO there are plenty of very tasty, calorie-appropriate, filling foods in the world, and a variety of delightful ways to prepare them that make eating them an even more positive, enjoyable experience.
"Eat plain boring things" sounds subjectively like the "never eat grain or flour ever again" advice, maybe necessary or the best approach for some with particular appetite-control issues, but not necessarily good first-call universal advice for all (even though I hear and believe what you're saying about research findings).
Personally, I think I might even be inclined to eat *more* of boring food in a desperate search for eating pleasure, vs. enjoying something I can truly savor. That's speculation, though. I'm not going to do the experiment by switching to things I think are plain, repetitive, boring.9 -
psychod787 wrote: »ChristopherLimoges wrote: »I would suggest your meals be as plain as possible before anything else.
Complex carbs, plain.
Protein, plain and lean(but beware of even chicken breasts, consistently), suspended broiled/baked.
Fats, are more difficult, hence methods of cooking prior to this macro. Try to use low amounts and reduce saturated and trans fats?
Sound advice imho. I can post a crap ton of research that supports this advice. Reduction of food variety has shown to decrease intake in ad librium studies. There is a great amount of evidence that restricting a macronutrient effects intakes. For this instance, we are just jerking around here. OP is not willing to give out the info needed to help. I am personally calling this thread dead....
There may be ample research evidence for the effectiveness of eating in a boring or sub-pleasant way for weight management, but to me it sounds like a miserable strategy to undertake, unless truly, truly essential. I suspect I may have non-standard tastes, but IMO there are plenty of very tasty, calorie-appropriate, filling foods in the world, and a variety of delightful ways to prepare them that make eating them an even more positive, enjoyable experience.
"Eat plain boring things" sounds subjectively like the "never eat grain or flour ever again" advice, maybe necessary or the best approach for some with particular appetite-control issues, but not necessarily good first-call universal advice for all (even though I hear and believe what you're saying about research findings).
Personally, I think I might even be inclined to eat *more* of boring food in a desperate search for eating pleasure, vs. enjoying something I can truly savor. That's speculation, though. I'm not going to do the experiment by switching to things I think are plain, repetitive, boring.
Seconded. I would even go so far as to say that if I tried to eat a boring diet, I'd probably just end up binging on the enjoyable things I attempt to eliminate.
I would think a boring diet would run in the same vein as a fad diet in that it's usually is fine for a short term, but ultimately unsustainable long term for a lot of people. With that in mind, how effective can it truly be overall?4 -
psychod787 wrote: »ChristopherLimoges wrote: »I would suggest your meals be as plain as possible before anything else.
Complex carbs, plain.
Protein, plain and lean(but beware of even chicken breasts, consistently), suspended broiled/baked.
Fats, are more difficult, hence methods of cooking prior to this macro. Try to use low amounts and reduce saturated and trans fats?
Sound advice imho. I can post a crap ton of research that supports this advice. Reduction of food variety has shown to decrease intake in ad librium studies. There is a great amount of evidence that restricting a macronutrient effects intakes. For this instance, we are just jerking around here. OP is not willing to give out the info needed to help. I am personally calling this thread dead....
There may be ample research evidence for the effectiveness of eating in a boring or sub-pleasant way for weight management, but to me it sounds like a miserable strategy to undertake, unless truly, truly essential. I suspect I may have non-standard tastes, but IMO there are plenty of very tasty, calorie-appropriate, filling foods in the world, and a variety of delightful ways to prepare them that make eating them an even more positive, enjoyable experience.
"Eat plain boring things" sounds subjectively like the "never eat grain or flour ever again" advice, maybe necessary or the best approach for some with particular appetite-control issues, but not necessarily good first-call universal advice for all (even though I hear and believe what you're saying about research findings).
Personally, I think I might even be inclined to eat *more* of boring food in a desperate search for eating pleasure, vs. enjoying something I can truly savor. That's speculation, though. I'm not going to do the experiment by switching to things I think are plain, repetitive, boring.
I think that some people might need to make a clean break from the SAD. This goes counter to what is popular on this site. Many people need a good dose of discipline, routine,structure, and maybe a little self denial. I COMPLETELY AGREE that some people will find this route unsustainable, but there are others it's the change they need. Some folks need to have time for their palate and brain to relearn how food taste. They need to learn that simple can be quite satisfying for some. Until some let go of the emotional attachments they place on certain foods, it might be an up hill battle for them to succeed.dragon_girl26 wrote: »psychod787 wrote: »ChristopherLimoges wrote: »I would suggest your meals be as plain as possible before anything else.
Complex carbs, plain.
Protein, plain and lean(but beware of even chicken breasts, consistently), suspended broiled/baked.
Fats, are more difficult, hence methods of cooking prior to this macro. Try to use low amounts and reduce saturated and trans fats?
Sound advice imho. I can post a crap ton of research that supports this advice. Reduction of food variety has shown to decrease intake in ad librium studies. There is a great amount of evidence that restricting a macronutrient effects intakes. For this instance, we are just jerking around here. OP is not willing to give out the info needed to help. I am personally calling this thread dead....
There may be ample research evidence for the effectiveness of eating in a boring or sub-pleasant way for weight management, but to me it sounds like a miserable strategy to undertake, unless truly, truly essential. I suspect I may have non-standard tastes, but IMO there are plenty of very tasty, calorie-appropriate, filling foods in the world, and a variety of delightful ways to prepare them that make eating them an even more positive, enjoyable experience.
"Eat plain boring things" sounds subjectively like the "never eat grain or flour ever again" advice, maybe necessary or the best approach for some with particular appetite-control issues, but not necessarily good first-call universal advice for all (even though I hear and believe what you're saying about research findings).
Personally, I think I might even be inclined to eat *more* of boring food in a desperate search for eating pleasure, vs. enjoying something I can truly savor. That's speculation, though. I'm not going to do the experiment by switching to things I think are plain, repetitive, boring.
Seconded. I would even go so far as to say that if I tried to eat a boring diet, I'd probably just end up binging on the enjoyable things I attempt to eliminate.
I would think a boring diet would run in the same vein as a fad diet in that it's usually is fine for a short term, but ultimately unsustainable long term for a lot of people. With that in mind, how effective can it truly be overall?
Just because something is not popular here does not make it "bad".Eating a less palatable diet is not a fad. Our ancestors did it for thousands of years. Hell, if we look back in history a few hundred years ago, there was little obesity. Generally the obese were the wealthiest who could afford to eat like a normal person does today. I use normal loosely btw. Oh, was there famine? Bring that up before someone tries to pigeonhole me. Though,there were times of plenty as well. Know what we see? Nor an explosion of waistlines, but kids! Population growth. That seems to be the default for animals when there is an abundance of food. So, we look at the average diet of the "normal" people several hundred years ago. What was it? Plain and simple. Not saying there were not times of gluttony, but far less.
**edit** I'm going to say that our ancestors were more active as well. They had a word for exercise... "life". This group on MFP is an extreme subset of folks. We tend to be more active, but being active does not completely explain why folks didn't blow up during times of plenty.7 -
psychod787 wrote: »ChristopherLimoges wrote: »I would suggest your meals be as plain as possible before anything else.
Complex carbs, plain.
Protein, plain and lean(but beware of even chicken breasts, consistently), suspended broiled/baked.
Fats, are more difficult, hence methods of cooking prior to this macro. Try to use low amounts and reduce saturated and trans fats?
Sound advice imho. I can post a crap ton of research that supports this advice. Reduction of food variety has shown to decrease intake in ad librium studies. There is a great amount of evidence that restricting a macronutrient effects intakes. For this instance, we are just jerking around here. OP is not willing to give out the info needed to help. I am personally calling this thread dead....
There may be ample research evidence for the effectiveness of eating in a boring or sub-pleasant way for weight management, but to me it sounds like a miserable strategy to undertake, unless truly, truly essential. I suspect I may have non-standard tastes, but IMO there are plenty of very tasty, calorie-appropriate, filling foods in the world, and a variety of delightful ways to prepare them that make eating them an even more positive, enjoyable experience.
"Eat plain boring things" sounds subjectively like the "never eat grain or flour ever again" advice, maybe necessary or the best approach for some with particular appetite-control issues, but not necessarily good first-call universal advice for all (even though I hear and believe what you're saying about research findings).
Personally, I think I might even be inclined to eat *more* of boring food in a desperate search for eating pleasure, vs. enjoying something I can truly savor. That's speculation, though. I'm not going to do the experiment by switching to things I think are plain, repetitive, boring.
I'm someone who is very prone to "snapping" and going out to get food if I'm bored by what I've got at home. This is one reason why I'm always sure to plan meals that are exciting to me while still fitting in my calorie goal. If my meal plan was plain lean protein and plain complex carbs, my fridge would always be full of them . . . because I'd be at the Taco Bell drive-through.
I know some people have success with the plain monomeal style of eating, but this is a situation where it is very good to know yourself and what works for you.3
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