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T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »I sometimes wonder if I have already had covid. My husband and I were both sick for 10 days in early July with what for me was nasty headaches, total exhaustion and sinus congestion (he had a mild cough with it). We both tested negative at the time, but for me it went on for almost 6 months after with daily headaches, fatigue, brain fog, facial pain, random bizarre symptoms like waking up in the night with all my teeth aching, facial tics, vertigo. My whole summer was a write off - I didn't even start walking my dogs again until November. I was eventually "diagnosed" (remotely) with chronic rhino sinusitis and what one doctor called post-viral syndrome, and steroids helped. One doctor I saw suggested that the PCR testing had changed and a sample that tested negative in July could test positive now (I don't understand exactly how and didn't ask) and it's possible I did have it.
At any rate I guess there is more than one virus out there that can knock you on your *kitten* for months - would be interesting for me to know which one it was.
If you are now healthy enough to donate blood, the American Red Cross is still testing for antibodies.
I'm in Canada - but I doubt that antibodies would show up at this late date anyway.
But you had it through Dec., right? Got it in July then lasted 6 months.... so if this is what you had, it was as recently as 2 months ago. Antibodies usually still show up 2 months later.
I’m not sure actually - when they say post viral syndrome I thought that the virus would be cleared after the acute illness, but the inflammation was already triggered, like the immune system going haywire. I’m not even sure where I would get antibody testing here, or if they would even consider that a priority since I am better now.
Like I mentioned earlier, if you can give blood, they will test it for antibodies.
I don't believe they are doing that here in Canada. The information I found is that that Canada Blood Services are running a study on selected blood samples taken to determine the overall antibody/exposure rate - but they are not notifying individuals who test positive for antibodies.
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I'm sorry to hear there is a covid outbreak in Victoria. It seems the virus escaped from a quarantine hotel. Its good the area has been put into a lock down. I hope it does not escape further. Apparently, the rules around our soon to be implemented UK quarantine hotels are not to be as strict. I can't understand why.
I'm not surprised many Australians do not like the tennis tournament going on, nor the cricket when so many Australians overseas are unable to get home because they are unable to find a spot in the arrivals allocation or the Quarantine hotels are understandably so expensive for usual folk.
This is a miserable time for each and everyone. To those at home, may be world wide, if all you have to worry about is, when can I have a holiday, please remember there are people who have lost or are loosing so very much more.16 -
rheddmobile wrote: »spiriteagle99 wrote: »I think that because smoking damages the lungs and Covid attacks the lungs and heart, smokers are at higher risk of serious illness and fatality. It's frustrating that my 81 year old diabetic husband has to wait in line with the 25 year old smoker, but it is easier for us to hole up than it might be for someone younger who needs to work. We can wait.
That’s terrible. Where are you that 81 year olds aren’t already vaccinated? In TN we are down to 70+ now.
Ontario is nowhere near vaccinating my 81 year old father since he lives independently in his own home. I think we've done long term care residents, health care workers, and remote indigenous communities.... and then it ground to a halt.14 -
T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »I sometimes wonder if I have already had covid. My husband and I were both sick for 10 days in early July with what for me was nasty headaches, total exhaustion and sinus congestion (he had a mild cough with it). We both tested negative at the time, but for me it went on for almost 6 months after with daily headaches, fatigue, brain fog, facial pain, random bizarre symptoms like waking up in the night with all my teeth aching, facial tics, vertigo. My whole summer was a write off - I didn't even start walking my dogs again until November. I was eventually "diagnosed" (remotely) with chronic rhino sinusitis and what one doctor called post-viral syndrome, and steroids helped. One doctor I saw suggested that the PCR testing had changed and a sample that tested negative in July could test positive now (I don't understand exactly how and didn't ask) and it's possible I did have it.
At any rate I guess there is more than one virus out there that can knock you on your *kitten* for months - would be interesting for me to know which one it was.
If you are now healthy enough to donate blood, the American Red Cross is still testing for antibodies.
I'm in Canada - but I doubt that antibodies would show up at this late date anyway.
But you had it through Dec., right? Got it in July then lasted 6 months.... so if this is what you had, it was as recently as 2 months ago. Antibodies usually still show up 2 months later.
I’m not sure actually - when they say post viral syndrome I thought that the virus would be cleared after the acute illness, but the inflammation was already triggered, like the immune system going haywire. I’m not even sure where I would get antibody testing here, or if they would even consider that a priority since I am better now.
Like I mentioned earlier, if you can give blood, they will test it for antibodies.
I don't believe they are doing that here in Canada. The information I found is that that Canada Blood Services are running a study on selected blood samples taken to determine the overall antibody/exposure rate - but they are not notifying individuals who test positive for antibodies.
I'm surprised, but only know about the U.S. Everywhere in the U.S. that I know about is doing the antibody testing - both the Red Cross and other organizations that take blood in smaller local areas. They seem to really want those antibodies for obvious reasons.1 -
rheddmobile wrote: »spiriteagle99 wrote: »I think that because smoking damages the lungs and Covid attacks the lungs and heart, smokers are at higher risk of serious illness and fatality. It's frustrating that my 81 year old diabetic husband has to wait in line with the 25 year old smoker, but it is easier for us to hole up than it might be for someone younger who needs to work. We can wait.
That’s terrible. Where are you that 81 year olds aren’t already vaccinated? In TN we are down to 70+ now.
Ontario is nowhere near vaccinating my 81 year old father since he lives independently in his own home. I think we've done long term care residents, health care workers, and remote indigenous communities.... and then it ground to a halt.
Even health care workers are not all done yet. My mom (87 in retirement home) is getting her second dose tomorrow, but none of the staff in her retirement home have had any doses yet. They ran out before they got to them (with their ridiculous strategy to do all hospital staff, including clerical staff, before they started with the long term care and retirement homes.)7 -
T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »I sometimes wonder if I have already had covid. My husband and I were both sick for 10 days in early July with what for me was nasty headaches, total exhaustion and sinus congestion (he had a mild cough with it). We both tested negative at the time, but for me it went on for almost 6 months after with daily headaches, fatigue, brain fog, facial pain, random bizarre symptoms like waking up in the night with all my teeth aching, facial tics, vertigo. My whole summer was a write off - I didn't even start walking my dogs again until November. I was eventually "diagnosed" (remotely) with chronic rhino sinusitis and what one doctor called post-viral syndrome, and steroids helped. One doctor I saw suggested that the PCR testing had changed and a sample that tested negative in July could test positive now (I don't understand exactly how and didn't ask) and it's possible I did have it.
At any rate I guess there is more than one virus out there that can knock you on your *kitten* for months - would be interesting for me to know which one it was.
If you are now healthy enough to donate blood, the American Red Cross is still testing for antibodies.
I'm in Canada - but I doubt that antibodies would show up at this late date anyway.
But you had it through Dec., right? Got it in July then lasted 6 months.... so if this is what you had, it was as recently as 2 months ago. Antibodies usually still show up 2 months later.
I’m not sure actually - when they say post viral syndrome I thought that the virus would be cleared after the acute illness, but the inflammation was already triggered, like the immune system going haywire. I’m not even sure where I would get antibody testing here, or if they would even consider that a priority since I am better now.
Like I mentioned earlier, if you can give blood, they will test it for antibodies.
I don't believe they are doing that here in Canada. The information I found is that that Canada Blood Services are running a study on selected blood samples taken to determine the overall antibody/exposure rate - but they are not notifying individuals who test positive for antibodies.
I'm surprised, but only know about the U.S. Everywhere in the U.S. that I know about is doing the antibody testing - both the Red Cross and other organizations that take blood in smaller local areas. They seem to really want those antibodies for obvious reasons.
Nothing about Canada and our handling of the pandemic surprises me anymore. I am seriously thinking of moving elsewhere I am so disillusioned with our leadership right now. My husband already wants to retire in Costa Rica so that is looking like an option for us.4 -
T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »I sometimes wonder if I have already had covid. My husband and I were both sick for 10 days in early July with what for me was nasty headaches, total exhaustion and sinus congestion (he had a mild cough with it). We both tested negative at the time, but for me it went on for almost 6 months after with daily headaches, fatigue, brain fog, facial pain, random bizarre symptoms like waking up in the night with all my teeth aching, facial tics, vertigo. My whole summer was a write off - I didn't even start walking my dogs again until November. I was eventually "diagnosed" (remotely) with chronic rhino sinusitis and what one doctor called post-viral syndrome, and steroids helped. One doctor I saw suggested that the PCR testing had changed and a sample that tested negative in July could test positive now (I don't understand exactly how and didn't ask) and it's possible I did have it.
At any rate I guess there is more than one virus out there that can knock you on your *kitten* for months - would be interesting for me to know which one it was.
If you are now healthy enough to donate blood, the American Red Cross is still testing for antibodies.
I'm in Canada - but I doubt that antibodies would show up at this late date anyway.
But you had it through Dec., right? Got it in July then lasted 6 months.... so if this is what you had, it was as recently as 2 months ago. Antibodies usually still show up 2 months later.
I’m not sure actually - when they say post viral syndrome I thought that the virus would be cleared after the acute illness, but the inflammation was already triggered, like the immune system going haywire. I’m not even sure where I would get antibody testing here, or if they would even consider that a priority since I am better now.
Like I mentioned earlier, if you can give blood, they will test it for antibodies.
I don't believe they are doing that here in Canada. The information I found is that that Canada Blood Services are running a study on selected blood samples taken to determine the overall antibody/exposure rate - but they are not notifying individuals who test positive for antibodies.
I'm surprised, but only know about the U.S. Everywhere in the U.S. that I know about is doing the antibody testing - both the Red Cross and other organizations that take blood in smaller local areas. They seem to really want those antibodies for obvious reasons.
Nothing about Canada and our handling of the pandemic surprises me anymore. I am seriously thinking of moving elsewhere I am so disillusioned with our leadership right now. My husband already wants to retire in Costa Rica so that is looking like an option for us.
I believe the U.S. has done a really poor job also - perhaps even worse than Canada, but I acknowledge I don't know enough about Canada's response to make a fair judgement there.5 -
Dr. Fauci says that by April, he think vaccines will be up to general population. I strongly doubt that. I'm in phase 1c in Tennessee. As of 8:05p yesterday (2/11), not a single county here has reached phase 1c. This is after 2 months of giving vaccinations.
TN is limiting vaccines with 2 simultaneous methods - the first is age based, starting with the oldest and continuing to the next oldest group over time. Currently, all counties are in 70+ range. The 2nd method is based on a combination of occupation, living status (i.e. living in nursing home or prison), and comorbidities. In order for the state to reach the final age group of 16+ AND finish phase 3 (the final phase of specific criterion - after that, everyone else qualifies) by April is extremely unlikely. The state of TN predicts they will reach phase 3 by Q3/Q4 2021 and has no dates for AFTER phase 3... basically meaning that Q4 2021 or beyond (2022) is when everyone else gets it. I am very glad to be in phase 1c, and I am expecting to get it by this summer (state says April, but my expectation is more reasonable, I believe).3 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »https://www.psypost.org/2021/02/dark-personality-traits-predict-cognitive-and-emotional-responses-to-the-covid-19-pandemic-59598
Here's a side of Covid-19 we need to prep for perhaps.
Ok, Gale. When I googled your article title to read it (which I did), I found THIS: https://www.psypost.org/2020/12/dark-personality-traits-predict-womens-propensity-to-go-on-deceptive-foodie-calls-for-a-free-meal-58741
Who knew?
(Apologizes for tangent)6 -
@Td1carnivore
https://www.macleans.ca/opinion/the-numbers-are-in-canadas-covid-fighting-efforts-are-among-worlds-worst/
"The first step is admitting you have a problem. So, let’s do that: Canada is doing a terrible job fighting COVID. How terrible? The Lowy Institute, one of Australia’s most-respected think tanks, is tracking pandemic metrics to gauge the performance of 98 countries as they respond to this global crisis. Canada ranks 61st. We are behind El Salvador, Belarus and Myanmar.
And the Lowy rankings do not yet take into account vaccination rates. Among nations which have access to the vaccine, and keeping in mind we were one of the first nations to get that access, we rank 35th with a per capita rate one fifth the United States’. It gets worse. Today it was revealed that even that low number is inflated because the Ford government in Ontario has been incompetently double-counting vaccinations."
Not that it is a race to the bottom or anything - but in January we have vaccinated 1/5 of the per capita population that the US has. We have since run out of vaccines completely and basically no one is getting it now.8 -
They now believe they know why there's mental confusion after Covid-19. Residual/elevated cytokines in the spinal fluid. In other words, inflammation markers in areas where they aren't normally found, in the Central nervous system.
https://www.cell.com/cancer-cell/fulltext/S1535-6108(21)00051-9
I'm not a scientist, but what they are saying, to me, is that it is concerning because it can cause damage to the nerves, potentially breach the blood/brain barrier and also be what is causing mental issues in those that have had Covid-19. They are also hopeful, at the same time, that understanding it better can help them quell the inflammation in the CNS and improve the outcome for long haulers.9 -
MikePfirrman wrote: »They now believe they know why there's mental confusion after Covid-19. Residual/elevated cytokines in the spinal fluid. In other words, inflammation markers in areas where they aren't normally found, in the Central nervous system.
https://www.cell.com/cancer-cell/fulltext/S1535-6108(21)00051-9
I'm not a scientist, but what they are saying, to me, is that it is concerning because it can cause damage to the nerves, potentially breach the blood/brain barrier and also be what is causing mental issues in those that have had Covid-19. They are also hopeful, at the same time, that understanding it better can help them quell the inflammation in the CNS and improve the outcome for long haulers.
I wonder if this is specific to Covid or if it might apply to other viruses that trigger post viral inflammation?
I don't pretend to understand a lot of what was said in the article, but my headaches and brain fog didn't resolve until I had a round of steroids. Which I guess would be in line with the anti-inflammatory treatment they recommend here.5 -
MikePfirrman wrote: »They now believe they know why there's mental confusion after Covid-19. Residual/elevated cytokines in the spinal fluid. In other words, inflammation markers in areas where they aren't normally found, in the Central nervous system.
https://www.cell.com/cancer-cell/fulltext/S1535-6108(21)00051-9
I'm not a scientist, but what they are saying, to me, is that it is concerning because it can cause damage to the nerves, potentially breach the blood/brain barrier and also be what is causing mental issues in those that have had Covid-19. They are also hopeful, at the same time, that understanding it better can help them quell the inflammation in the CNS and improve the outcome for long haulers.
Interesting. I think this is more evidence that if you can avoid getting infected, even if you're young and healthy, avoid it. How this virus will affect people's overall health long term is still an open question.10 -
T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »Dr. Fauci says that by April, he think vaccines will be up to general population. I strongly doubt that. I'm in phase 1c in Tennessee. As of 8:05p yesterday (2/11), not a single county here has reached phase 1c. This is after 2 months of giving vaccinations.
TN is limiting vaccines with 2 simultaneous methods - the first is age based, starting with the oldest and continuing to the next oldest group over time. Currently, all counties are in 70+ range. The 2nd method is based on a combination of occupation, living status (i.e. living in nursing home or prison), and comorbidities. In order for the state to reach the final age group of 16+ AND finish phase 3 (the final phase of specific criterion - after that, everyone else qualifies) by April is extremely unlikely. The state of TN predicts they will reach phase 3 by Q3/Q4 2021 and has no dates for AFTER phase 3... basically meaning that Q4 2021 or beyond (2022) is when everyone else gets it. I am very glad to be in phase 1c, and I am expecting to get it by this summer (state says April, but my expectation is more reasonable, I believe).
Yeah, I think there will technically be doses available for almost everyone by then, but I doubt they'll all quickly be getting into arms by then. And it's going to be very different from one state to another. I'm still hoping I'll be vaccinated by the end of summer, and if it's before then it'll be a pleasant surprise.2 -
rheddmobile wrote: »spiriteagle99 wrote: »I think that because smoking damages the lungs and Covid attacks the lungs and heart, smokers are at higher risk of serious illness and fatality. It's frustrating that my 81 year old diabetic husband has to wait in line with the 25 year old smoker, but it is easier for us to hole up than it might be for someone younger who needs to work. We can wait.
That’s terrible. Where are you that 81 year olds aren’t already vaccinated? In TN we are down to 70+ now.
I was looking at the latest info and at present diabetes is 1c in TN, along with 55+. I’m 52. So if I were just three years older, I would be eligible from my age at the same time as my diabetes, which seems nuts to me.
Also, what stops people from claiming to smoke? Or even starting to smoke, just to get the vaccine?
I live in Pennsylvania. 1a was nursing home residents and medical first responders, 1b was everyone over 65 or a smoker or with medical conditions or whose job brings them into contact with the public, IOW, 3/4 of the population.2 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »https://www.psypost.org/2021/02/dark-personality-traits-predict-cognitive-and-emotional-responses-to-the-covid-19-pandemic-59598
Here's a side of Covid-19 we need to prep for perhaps.
Ok, Gale. When I googled your article title to read it (which I did), I found THIS: https://www.psypost.org/2020/12/dark-personality-traits-predict-womens-propensity-to-go-on-deceptive-foodie-calls-for-a-free-meal-58741
Who knew?
(Apologizes for tangent)
What happens when you click on the link on MFP post?90 -
MikePfirrman wrote: »They now believe they know why there's mental confusion after Covid-19. Residual/elevated cytokines in the spinal fluid. In other words, inflammation markers in areas where they aren't normally found, in the Central nervous system.
https://www.cell.com/cancer-cell/fulltext/S1535-6108(21)00051-9
I'm not a scientist, but what they are saying, to me, is that it is concerning because it can cause damage to the nerves, potentially breach the blood/brain barrier and also be what is causing mental issues in those that have had Covid-19. They are also hopeful, at the same time, that understanding it better can help them quell the inflammation in the CNS and improve the outcome for long haulers.
I wonder if this is specific to Covid or if it might apply to other viruses that trigger post viral inflammation?
I don't pretend to understand a lot of what was said in the article, but my headaches and brain fog didn't resolve until I had a round of steroids. Which I guess would be in line with the anti-inflammatory treatment they recommend here.
Again, I'm not a scientist, but I do know MS has been theorized, though no direct proof has been found, to be triggered by a virus. With MS, there is are also elevated cytokines in the CNS. Am I saying that Covid-19 could cause MS down the road? Certainly not, but there's cause for concerns. But understanding it better is where it all starts.
I believe I read somewhere that chemo can cause brain fog for some of the same reasons.
The holistic supplement guy in me also thinks taking a full spectrum Methyl-B (or at least B-12) might not be a bad idea for anyone. Vitamin B12 is what helps keep the myelin sheath around the nerves strong.4 -
rheddmobile wrote: »spiriteagle99 wrote: »I think that because smoking damages the lungs and Covid attacks the lungs and heart, smokers are at higher risk of serious illness and fatality. It's frustrating that my 81 year old diabetic husband has to wait in line with the 25 year old smoker, but it is easier for us to hole up than it might be for someone younger who needs to work. We can wait.
That’s terrible. Where are you that 81 year olds aren’t already vaccinated? In TN we are down to 70+ now.
Ontario is nowhere near vaccinating my 81 year old father since he lives independently in his own home. I think we've done long term care residents, health care workers, and remote indigenous communities.... and then it ground to a halt.
Gosh, I had no idea Canada was having such problems. You have my sympathy.5 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »https://www.psypost.org/2021/02/dark-personality-traits-predict-cognitive-and-emotional-responses-to-the-covid-19-pandemic-59598
Here's a side of Covid-19 we need to prep for perhaps.
Ok, Gale. When I googled your article title to read it (which I did), I found THIS: https://www.psypost.org/2020/12/dark-personality-traits-predict-womens-propensity-to-go-on-deceptive-foodie-calls-for-a-free-meal-58741
Who knew?
(Apologizes for tangent)
What happens when you click on the link on MFP post?9
Ha! It's just a habit like washing hands frequently.1
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