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Fitness and diet myths that just won't go away
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But "breakfast" isn't used in that sense. Especially when you add lunch and dinner to the schedule. The whole motto was written by General Mills to sell more cereal. And many trainers and coaches INSIST that their participants should be eating a morning breakfast...................just because.goal06082021 wrote: »
Also "breakfast is the most important meal of the day"...............................the others, not so important.4legsRbetterthan2 wrote: »Eating breakfast will jumpstart your metabolism for the day.
There is some diet where you have to put all your food in their special containers. I dont remember the name. It sort of works from a portion control standpoint, but its pretty limiting if you want to be crazy and mix ingredients and cook them!
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Breakfast *is* the most important meal of the day, insofar as it is important for most people to eat something (i.e., break their fast) at some point during a typical day. Breakfast *isn't* necessarily waffles and cereal and bacon and eggs and coffee and orange juice at 7 AM.
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Which of course is physically impossible. It can atrophy and get flabby, but fat is fat and muscle is muscle. You can't train fat.goal06082021 wrote: »
Also "breakfast is the most important meal of the day"...............................the others, not so important.4legsRbetterthan2 wrote: »Eating breakfast will jumpstart your metabolism for the day.
There is some diet where you have to put all your food in their special containers. I dont remember the name. It sort of works from a portion control standpoint, but its pretty limiting if you want to be crazy and mix ingredients and cook them!
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Breakfast *is* the most important meal of the day, insofar as it is important for most people to eat something (i.e., break their fast) at some point during a typical day. Breakfast *isn't* necessarily waffles and cereal and bacon and eggs and coffee and orange juice at 7 AM.
I don't live in a "waffles and bacon and eggs" country.
Point is.... it has been drummed into me AND this is advice today on the NHS website as well as dieting shows you see on the telly, that a meal when you get up is the best way to control your eating. For me and for quite a few others I have discussed this with in the last few years, that is really really really really really really really bad advice.
If it works for you and others, that's great, but in a nutshell what we have had banged into us (in my country anyway) is that not eating breakfast makes you fat. For me and other, it is quite the opposite.
I actually began eating more breakfast a few weeks ago because I thought maybe it would help me eat less at night. But nope... I was starving at night because I had less calories left! Now, I'm back to having like 150 calories at breakfast and saving the rest for later.
Me too... I am a natural IF person (food is an abomination when it is served before noon).
On the hidden sugars thing - even before they started putting added sugars on the labels, all you had to do was read the nutrition info and the amount of sugar in a serving was listed right there in black and white - so how the @#$% are they hiding sugar in the food?!?!?
The other one that bothers me is this - once you start lifting weights you cannot stop because all that muscle you build will turn to fat as soon as you stop... SMDH!
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goal06082021 wrote: »
Also "breakfast is the most important meal of the day"...............................the others, not so important.4legsRbetterthan2 wrote: »Eating breakfast will jumpstart your metabolism for the day.
There is some diet where you have to put all your food in their special containers. I dont remember the name. It sort of works from a portion control standpoint, but its pretty limiting if you want to be crazy and mix ingredients and cook them!
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Breakfast *is* the most important meal of the day, insofar as it is important for most people to eat something (i.e., break their fast) at some point during a typical day. Breakfast *isn't* necessarily waffles and cereal and bacon and eggs and coffee and orange juice at 7 AM.
Totally get what you are saying.
I break my fast, have breakfast, sometime in the afternoon after being up and active for a few hours.
(I do have coffee, but not a meal, when I wake)
Breakfast has no need to be as soon as one is awake, it is just the first meal of the day.
If the first meal is around noon we tend to call it lunch or dinner (depending on where you live), but it is actually breakfast- you are breaking your fast.
Semantics I know, but had to support what I thought @goal06082021 was saying.
My pet peeve is you have to lift heavy without the qualifier ‘what is heavy for you’ added to it.
There was a phase on MFP when that was said so often it was like a mantra, I, being newish to the forum’s, was sucked into the bald phrase and was put off lifting for years until a light bulb went off in my head. I had no need to go and try lifting a 45lbs + (almost half my weight) bar bell, if 2 lbs pink hand weights were heavy for me that was fine.
(I did progress through a couple of bodyweight and dumbbell programmes and now do lift that barbell)
Cheers, h.12 -
Just to add a little humor.................I do "sculpting" fitness classes occasionally and watch some females struggle with 5lbs on curls and triceps. But once we're out of class and they go to kid care, they have no problem lifting that 15lbs kid up in the air.middlehaitch wrote: »goal06082021 wrote: »
Also "breakfast is the most important meal of the day"...............................the others, not so important.4legsRbetterthan2 wrote: »Eating breakfast will jumpstart your metabolism for the day.
There is some diet where you have to put all your food in their special containers. I dont remember the name. It sort of works from a portion control standpoint, but its pretty limiting if you want to be crazy and mix ingredients and cook them!
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Breakfast *is* the most important meal of the day, insofar as it is important for most people to eat something (i.e., break their fast) at some point during a typical day. Breakfast *isn't* necessarily waffles and cereal and bacon and eggs and coffee and orange juice at 7 AM.
Totally get what you are saying.
I break my fast, have breakfast, sometime in the afternoon after being up and active for a few hours.
(I do have coffee, but not a meal, when I wake)
Breakfast has no need to be as soon as one is awake, it is just the first meal of the day.
If the first meal is around noon we tend to call it lunch or dinner (depending on where you live), but it is actually breakfast- you are breaking your fast.
Semantics I know, but had to support what I thought @goal06082021 was saying.
My pet peeve is you have to lift heavy without the qualifier ‘what is heavy for you’ added to it.
There was a phase on MFP when that was said so often it was like a mantra, I, being newish to the forum’s, was sucked into the bald phrase and was put off lifting for years until a light bulb went off in my head. I had no need to go and try lifting a 45lbs + (almost half my weight) bar bell, if 2 lbs pink hand weights were heavy for me that was fine.
(I did progress through a couple of bodyweight and dumbbell programmes and now do lift that barbell)
Cheers, h.
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Just to add a little humor.................I do "sculpting" fitness classes occasionally and watch some females struggle with 5lbs on curls and triceps. But once we're out of class and they go to kid care, they have no problem lifting that 15lbs kid up in the air.middlehaitch wrote: »goal06082021 wrote: »
Also "breakfast is the most important meal of the day"...............................the others, not so important.4legsRbetterthan2 wrote: »Eating breakfast will jumpstart your metabolism for the day.
There is some diet where you have to put all your food in their special containers. I dont remember the name. It sort of works from a portion control standpoint, but its pretty limiting if you want to be crazy and mix ingredients and cook them!
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Breakfast *is* the most important meal of the day, insofar as it is important for most people to eat something (i.e., break their fast) at some point during a typical day. Breakfast *isn't* necessarily waffles and cereal and bacon and eggs and coffee and orange juice at 7 AM.
Totally get what you are saying.
I break my fast, have breakfast, sometime in the afternoon after being up and active for a few hours.
(I do have coffee, but not a meal, when I wake)
Breakfast has no need to be as soon as one is awake, it is just the first meal of the day.
If the first meal is around noon we tend to call it lunch or dinner (depending on where you live), but it is actually breakfast- you are breaking your fast.
Semantics I know, but had to support what I thought @goal06082021 was saying.
My pet peeve is you have to lift heavy without the qualifier ‘what is heavy for you’ added to it.
There was a phase on MFP when that was said so often it was like a mantra, I, being newish to the forum’s, was sucked into the bald phrase and was put off lifting for years until a light bulb went off in my head. I had no need to go and try lifting a 45lbs + (almost half my weight) bar bell, if 2 lbs pink hand weights were heavy for me that was fine.
(I did progress through a couple of bodyweight and dumbbell programmes and now do lift that barbell)
Cheers, h.
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Ahh yes the functional strength is much more important! I actually said this to my hubby after we had our kid. He was a big baby, and is still bigger than average now, but I found it amazing no matter how sore your arms were, how much you could feel your grip slipping, you would never in a million years drop the kid. But if that was a heavy box or a bag of groceries, it for sure would've slipped out of your hands...8 -
But "breakfast" isn't used in that sense. Especially when you add lunch and dinner to the schedule. The whole motto was written by General Mills to sell more cereal. And many trainers and coaches INSIST that their participants should be eating a morning breakfast...................just because.
Maybe in your country and/or experience it means "whenever you first eat be it at 7am or 10pm at night" but here, breakfast is what you eat when you get up.
Lunch is still lunch and dinner is still dinner, even if it is the first food of the day to pass your lips.4 -
My family is big so I’m always going to be big/fat.
I’m big boned, so will always be overweight (when big boned isn’t an excuse for being over fat).
I’m *insert age* so losing is nearly impossible.
I can’t afford healthy food (when calories matter, not organic food).
I’ll gain weight if I even look at carbs.
- These are some myths I personally believed for awhile as well. They definitely sabotage efforts.17 -
janejellyroll wrote: »goal06082021 wrote: »SuzySunshine99 wrote: »The ones that annoy me the most are "rules" that make no sense...
-Don't eat any ingredients that you can't pronounce.
-Only shop the perimeter of the grocery store, not the middle.
-Don't eat after 7pm.
-Don't eat white foods.
So much wrong...
In the case of the bolded "rule" - the way most grocery stores are laid out, you'll find most of the whole foods around the perimeter of the store and most of the packaged foods in the aisles. I think it's a useful guideline for someone learning or re-learning how to shop for nutritious food, but yeah, there's nothing magic about it otherwise.
Also re: not eating after 7 PM, they call that intermittent fasting now and it's trendy.
I do agree with you on the "nothing you can't pronounce" and "nothing white" rules, though. If you just blindly apply the rule without trying to learn anything about what you're doing and why it works (or doesn't), that's the kind of anti-intellectual BS that got all your high school friends hitting you up to join their pyramid scheme and we could do with less of it, as a species.
I don't know if this is really true though. Yes, at many stores you'll find fresh fruits and vegetables and dairy products around the edge, but you'll also frequently find the bakeries, deli, alcohol (in places that sell it), and ice cream. And you'll most often find things like legumes, oats, and dried herbs and spices in the middle aisles. I think it's more accurate to say that you'll often find temperature controlled items along the edges and shelf stable stuff in the middle. There is a good amount of overlap between temperature controlled and nutrient-dense, but I honestly think the average person would be better served by just learning how to identify foods that meet their nutritional goals ANYWHERE in the store instead of just avoiding certain aisles or assuming something is okay because it's along the edges. If I'm personally planning dinner, I'd rather have a bag of lentils or some canned tomatoes over some Go-Gurt.
One of the stores I shop in, what you find around the perimeter:
Enter. Turn left. Produce! Potatoes and onions and avocados. And all that other stuff. Be sure to get lots of avocados. Yeah, they allegedly have calories, but they don't count if you wash 'em first. Eating clean ya know.... Keep going...
Odd selection of refrigerated foods like tempeh, miso, cheese, sliced pre-packed deli meat, prepared potato salad, pickles, bacon, sausage..... That's got to all be good because it's the perimeter, right?
Back corner: Fresh fish and fresh meat. Turn right. Cooler with more meat, some sausage, etc. If you turn around there's a chest freezer with things like ribs, Cornish hens, etc. Next is a freezer for more meat. And end caps from the aisles.
Keep going. Now there's a bunch of dairy. Eggs, butter, milk, yogurt, cottage cheese, keifer.... Next is the bulk coffee. Mmmmmmm...
Back corner. Wine. Beer. Do NOT skip this corner. Health food!
Turn right.
Sushi cook. Prepared food counter with all kinds of tasty goodies. Fried things. Baked things. Salads. Skewered things. Next: PIZZA! That's healthy, right? During "the before times" you would have passed the olive bar and the hot food bar. No more. There's also the specialty expensive cheeses and cured meats around this area. Fill up on these foods because they don't have calories. It's just cheese and sandwiches after all.
Keep going. Kitchen with a wok (used to be make your own bowl, but not for now). Burgers. And a bunch more prepared ready-to-eat foods like JoJos, fried chicken thingys, sheet pan meals. In the morning there's bacon and fried things. Then the deli. Sliced meats and cheeses. Then there's the bakery and dessert shop. And coffee.
That's the perimeter.
Move towards the center of the store and there's all the rest of the food. Canned beans. Dried beans. Bulk dried beans. Bulk candy. Bulk whole grains. Bulk spices. Bulk cereal. Mixed bag. Cocktail mixers. Rice. Dried milk. Olives. "Ethnic" foods. Soups. Charcoal. Paper products. Supplements. Definitely don't eat the charcoal. I've seen how hot it burns; must have thousands of calories in it.
Don't shop the aisles. Stick to the bakery and the pizza/burger bar. How can you go wrong?9 -
"Steady state cardio is bad"
Except I enjoy it and am fairly confident it is better for me than sitting on the couch.27 -
Go to many restaurants here and "breakfast" isn't served past 10:30am. Since the majority of people work from morning to late afternoon, the time they get up is in the morning and why "breakfast" is seen as a morning meal.But "breakfast" isn't used in that sense. Especially when you add lunch and dinner to the schedule. The whole motto was written by General Mills to sell more cereal. And many trainers and coaches INSIST that their participants should be eating a morning breakfast...................just because.
Maybe in your country and/or experience it means "whenever you first eat be it at 7am or 10pm at night" but here, breakfast is what you eat when you get up.
Lunch is still lunch and dinner is still dinner, even if it is the first food of the day to pass your lips.
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My family is big so I’m always going to be big/fat.
I’m big boned, so will always be overweight (when big boned isn’t an excuse for being over fat).
I’m *insert age* so losing is nearly impossible.
I can’t afford healthy food (when calories matter, not organic food).
I’ll gain weight if I even look at carbs.
- These are some myths I personally believed for awhile as well. They definitely sabotage efforts.
Or substitute the word "gluten" for carbs. When I read, "If I eat any gluten, I will gain three to five pounds," I just shake my head. Uh.... Not sure how that all works, but hey - if that works for you and you don't gain weight eating slim jims (slim is even part of their name, so they have to be diet food), go for it.
Sorry. I don't mean to be so grumpy, but...7 -
"Supports the immune system."7
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Yep they are big because they all habitually overeat. If they all ate in deficit, they would all be smaller.My family is big so I’m always going to be big/fat.
On average, bones by the circumference, is in line with the frame of the person. Taller people will have bigger bones than shorter people due to having to handle more weight.I’m big boned, so will always be overweight (when big boned isn’t an excuse for being over fat).
lol, and yet there are so many examples of people in their 60's and older who are fit and trim.I’m *insert age* so losing is nearly impossible.
But somehow can afford to buy that latte or other take out item.I can’t afford healthy food (when calories matter, not organic food).
Well there's always keto.I’ll gain weight if I even look at carbs.
thanks for sharing these.- These are some myths I personally believed for awhile as well. They definitely sabotage efforts.
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Drinking water helps with weight loss
Carbs are bad
Starvation mode
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Water is essential for life. But you DON'T need a gallon of water a day unless you're sweating out that much. And the majority of people don't. Total broscience.Staying hydrated assists in balancing the calorie deficit. It’s essential, not a myth, backed by science and any M.D. you can find.
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This is dead wrong. Firstly I don’t count in gallons and no one should either unless you’re casually talking with random people about non fitness related things. 2 liters a day is essential for proper water maintenance and the universal disagreements to that on my comment is laughable. An additional 500ml to 1000ml is necessary to prevent dehydration when exercising. Yes, exercising in which case you should be sweating. The only people who aren’t going to be sweating so much are people who do not need to lose a significant amount of weight, are genetically predisposed non sweaters, or in what is most likely the case: not going far enough. Telling people drinking more than 2 liters is “broscience” is absolute nonsense and false.
I looked it up to be sure and 1 gallon is 3.78 liters. I never stated anywhere someone should be drinking past three liters. My original post is accurate and for those saying they don’t even drink 2 liters (approx 8 cups of water) per day...then there are serious issues that need to be addressed with their nutrition plan.7 -
And let's not forget that you will lose weight faster if you add lemon juice or ACV to your water.18
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But "breakfast" isn't used in that sense. Especially when you add lunch and dinner to the schedule. The whole motto was written by General Mills to sell more cereal. And many trainers and coaches INSIST that their participants should be eating a morning breakfast...................just because.
Maybe in your country and/or experience it means "whenever you first eat be it at 7am or 10pm at night" but here, breakfast is what you eat when you get up.
Lunch is still lunch and dinner is still dinner, even if it is the first food of the day to pass your lips.
It doesn't mean that in the US either. It's a literal parsing of break-fast, but the word breakfast generally means a morning meal, not the first meal of the day, whenever eaten (people who eat twice in the morning will joke about first and second breakfast), and if one eats for the first time at mid-day it's lunch (unless the biggest meal in some places, where the more archaic "dinner" for the largest meal is used) and if it's in the evening it is dinner. It also doesn't depend on food -- my morning meal would be breakfast even if salad (a former habit of mine) unless it's in place of breakfast and lunch and somewhat large and then it might be brunch.
Worth noting also that the translations for breakfast in other languages generally aren't literally "breakfast" or "first meal of the day" but their terms for the morning meal.
To circle back to your post that kicked this all off, you are right that when people claim that breakfast is the most important meal of the day, they are intending to say that eating in the morning is extra important. (And I agree with your point, it's not.)6 -
Except the issue here is that YOU DON'T HAVE to physically drink 2 liters a day of water either. You DO realize that water gets absorbed into the body via just about anything that has WATER IN IT. Let's say someone drank nothing but unsweetened iced tea and drank about 3 liters of it a day but drank no plain water. I'm betting they likely don't have a dehydration issue.
Water is essential for life. But you DON'T need a gallon of water a day unless you're sweating out that much. And the majority of people don't. Total broscience.Staying hydrated assists in balancing the calorie deficit. It’s essential, not a myth, backed by science and any M.D. you can find.
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This is dead wrong. Firstly I don’t count in gallons and no one should either unless you’re casually talking with random people about non fitness related things. 2 liters a day is essential for proper water maintenance and the universal disagreements to that on my comment is laughable. An additional 500ml to 1000ml is necessary to prevent dehydration when exercising. Yes, exercising in which case you should be sweating. The only people who aren’t going to be sweating so much are people who do not need to lose a significant amount of weight, are genetically predisposed non sweaters, or in what is most likely the case: not going far enough. Telling people drinking more than 2 liters is “broscience” is absolute nonsense and false.
I looked it up to be sure and 1 gallon is 3.78 liters. I never stated anywhere someone should be drinking past three liters. My original post is accurate and for those saying they don’t even drink 2 liters (approx 8 cups of water) per day...then there are serious issues that need to be addressed with their nutrition plan.
The "myth" was drinking a gallon of water a day. Your quote: "Staying hydrated assists in balancing the calorie deficit. It’s essential, not a myth, backed by science and any M.D. you can find."
No where did I say staying hydrated was a myth. Water isn't part of "balancing the calorie deficit" since it has no calories. Link any site that backs your state to that point. And yes water is essential. But as I stated before, you DON'T need to drink a gallon of it unless you expend that much out.
Answer this: does the AVERAGE person lose more water from urination or sweating?
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One of the things I'm thinking about going through this thread: I think some of the myths can be helpful, provided they are viewed as intended - not as "this makes you lose weight" but "this might help you avoid overeating."
It's true that if I'm adequately hydrated, or eat more fruits and vegetables, or if I spend more time moving, I will probably find it easier to lose weight. But it's about the psychology more than the nutrition. The foods aren't magical, and I think that's actually what makes the myths dangerous. Especially when picked up by unscrupulous people who want to make a quick buck off those who feel desperate and overwhelmed. There's a very narrow premise involved that's being unfairly broadened to mean something the advice was never intended to mean.
I had to laugh at the perimeter of the store one - I have a hunch that it might actually tell something about the history of architecture, though the other flaws mentioned are definitely accurate. In typical suburbia of decades past, where they just razed whatever to the ground and built store after store after store in the exact same layout, that advice may have been somewhat more applicable. I remember when I first moved to a truly dense city and visited the same grocery chain I'd been shopping at for years, and I was totally lost because the store simply had to be arranged differently to fit on that block. I had never been in a store location from that chain that varied its layout at all. And today planners are pickier about environmental impact, too. I'm one of those weirdos who writes my grocery list in order in the store so I don't have to double back, and I have to think every time now about which location I'm visiting to make sure I'm grouping them right. 8 -
Even better when you hear talking of "good carbs" and "bad carbs". Reality is is that if someone is meeting their nutritional RDA's (all food has a nutritional value) and macros counts correctly, it almost doesn't matter if the carbs are "good" or "bad". White rice and pasta are deemed "bad" carbs because it's "processed". And yet countries that consume them on a regular basis outside of US don't have the same weight issues.Drinking water helps with weight loss
Carbs are bad
Starvation mode
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You have to "eat clean" and "unprocessed" in order to lose weight correctly.
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Water is essential for life. But you DON'T need a gallon of water a day unless you're sweating out that much. And the majority of people don't. Total broscience.Staying hydrated assists in balancing the calorie deficit. It’s essential, not a myth, backed by science and any M.D. you can find.
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This is dead wrong. Firstly I don’t count in gallons and no one should either unless you’re casually talking with random people about non fitness related things. 2 liters a day is essential for proper water maintenance and the universal disagreements to that on my comment is laughable. An additional 500ml to 1000ml is necessary to prevent dehydration when exercising. Yes, exercising in which case you should be sweating. The only people who aren’t going to be sweating so much are people who do not need to lose a significant amount of weight, are genetically predisposed non sweaters, or in what is most likely the case: not going far enough. Telling people drinking more than 2 liters is “broscience” is absolute nonsense and false.
I looked it up to be sure and 1 gallon is 3.78 liters. I never stated anywhere someone should be drinking past three liters. My original post is accurate and for those saying they don’t even drink 2 liters (approx 8 cups of water) per day...then there are serious issues that need to be addressed with their nutrition plan.
This comment seems to be based on the assumption that the water in foods is somehow not recognized by our bodies. Some days I am thirsty and want to drink more water. Other days I'm having lots of things like fruit and soup and I'm less thirsty. Virtually all days of the week I'm sweating a fair amount (I sweat a lot during exercise), but my urine is always indicating that I'm at about the same hydration level.
Pretending that the water found in food doesn't count is the nonsense.16 -
Water is essential for life. But you DON'T need a gallon of water a day unless you're sweating out that much. And the majority of people don't. Total broscience.Staying hydrated assists in balancing the calorie deficit. It’s essential, not a myth, backed by science and any M.D. you can find.
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This is dead wrong. Firstly I don’t count in gallons and no one should either unless you’re casually talking with random people about non fitness related things. 2 liters a day is essential for proper water maintenance and the universal disagreements to that on my comment is laughable. An additional 500ml to 1000ml is necessary to prevent dehydration when exercising. Yes, exercising in which case you should be sweating. The only people who aren’t going to be sweating so much are people who do not need to lose a significant amount of weight, are genetically predisposed non sweaters, or in what is most likely the case: not going far enough. Telling people drinking more than 2 liters is “broscience” is absolute nonsense and false.
I looked it up to be sure and 1 gallon is 3.78 liters. I never stated anywhere someone should be drinking past three liters. My original post is accurate and for those saying they don’t even drink 2 liters (approx 8 cups of water) per day...then there are serious issues that need to be addressed with their nutrition plan.
There's another one to add to the diet myths thread - if you aren't sweating your *kitten* off you aren't doing it right (or hard enough).19 -
But "breakfast" isn't used in that sense. Especially when you add lunch and dinner to the schedule. The whole motto was written by General Mills to sell more cereal. And many trainers and coaches INSIST that their participants should be eating a morning breakfast...................just because.
Maybe in your country and/or experience it means "whenever you first eat be it at 7am or 10pm at night" but here, breakfast is what you eat when you get up.
Lunch is still lunch and dinner is still dinner, even if it is the first food of the day to pass your lips.
It doesn't mean that in the US either. It's a literal parsing of break-fast, but the word breakfast generally means a morning meal, not the first meal of the day, whenever eaten (people who eat twice in the morning will joke about first and second breakfast), and if one eats for the first time at mid-day it's lunch (unless the biggest meal in some places, where the more archaic "dinner" for the largest meal is used) and if it's in the evening it is dinner. It also doesn't depend on food -- my morning meal would be breakfast even if salad (a former habit of mine) unless it's in place of breakfast and lunch and somewhat large and then it might be brunch.
Worth noting also that the translations for breakfast in other languages generally aren't literally "breakfast" or "first meal of the day" but their terms for the morning meal.
To circle back to your post that kicked this all off, you are right that when people claim that breakfast is the most important meal of the day, they are intending to say that eating in the morning is extra important. (And I agree with your point, it's not.)
Indeed - the myth I am referring to is the one that says you should eat when you get up to help keep your weight in check as it is "the most important meal of the day"
We call it "breakfast" and I had not realised there would be someone out there who had a broader definition of "breakfast", but its name is of course beside the point - I am talking about the message.
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"Eating healthy is just so expensive!"
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Water is essential for life. But you DON'T need a gallon of water a day unless you're sweating out that much. And the majority of people don't. Total broscience.Staying hydrated assists in balancing the calorie deficit. It’s essential, not a myth, backed by science and any M.D. you can find.
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This is dead wrong. Firstly I don’t count in gallons and no one should either unless you’re casually talking with random people about non fitness related things. 2 liters a day is essential for proper water maintenance and the universal disagreements to that on my comment is laughable. An additional 500ml to 1000ml is necessary to prevent dehydration when exercising. Yes, exercising in which case you should be sweating. The only people who aren’t going to be sweating so much are people who do not need to lose a significant amount of weight, are genetically predisposed non sweaters, or in what is most likely the case: not going far enough. Telling people drinking more than 2 liters is “broscience” is absolute nonsense and false.
I looked it up to be sure and 1 gallon is 3.78 liters. I never stated anywhere someone should be drinking past three liters. My original post is accurate and for those saying they don’t even drink 2 liters (approx 8 cups of water) per day...then there are serious issues that need to be addressed with their nutrition plan.
So...this is exactly what I'm talking about when I refer to black-and-white, one-size-fits-all "rules".
Telling every person, regardless of their body size, activity level, or amount of hydration they get through food and other drinks, that they MUST drink 2 liters of water in order to be hydrated.
Again, assuming we are thinking adults, we can learn how to spot signs of dehydration and address that as needed. We can reason that the hydration needs of a 250-pound, 6-foot tall, active man will be vastly different than the needs of a 100-pound, 5 foot tall sedentary woman. We can reason that the fruit we eat, the soup we had for lunch, and the mug of tea you're sipping on all hydrate you without having a sip of plain water.
And, if we understand the science of calories in relation to weight loss, we know that water does not have a direct effect on your fat gain/loss.15 -
I don't sweat much and I instruct a cardio kickboxing class 3 times a week. I have hella dry skin though, which is why moisturizing is important for me.
Water is essential for life. But you DON'T need a gallon of water a day unless you're sweating out that much. And the majority of people don't. Total broscience.Staying hydrated assists in balancing the calorie deficit. It’s essential, not a myth, backed by science and any M.D. you can find.
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This is dead wrong. Firstly I don’t count in gallons and no one should either unless you’re casually talking with random people about non fitness related things. 2 liters a day is essential for proper water maintenance and the universal disagreements to that on my comment is laughable. An additional 500ml to 1000ml is necessary to prevent dehydration when exercising. Yes, exercising in which case you should be sweating. The only people who aren’t going to be sweating so much are people who do not need to lose a significant amount of weight, are genetically predisposed non sweaters, or in what is most likely the case: not going far enough. Telling people drinking more than 2 liters is “broscience” is absolute nonsense and false.
I looked it up to be sure and 1 gallon is 3.78 liters. I never stated anywhere someone should be drinking past three liters. My original post is accurate and for those saying they don’t even drink 2 liters (approx 8 cups of water) per day...then there are serious issues that need to be addressed with their nutrition plan.
There's another one to add to the diet myths thread - if you aren't sweating your *kitten* off you aren't doing it right (or hard enough).
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And also now pseudoscience:
"Your body is in acidic phase so you have to eat an alkaline diet"
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I once saw a test for this based on how far around your wrist you can wrap your fingers. You will be shocked to learn that the answer to that question fluctuates with weight.12
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