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girlwithcurls2 wrote: »This could be controversial, but I'm just reporting, having found it . . . remarkable.
I mentioned here that I got the Pfizer vax, shot 1, yesterday (zero side effects by the way, not even arm soreness). I also posted about it on Facebook, saying I was happy to finally get it after a long time on the waiting list.
Reply to that from someone I know (who was serious, BTW): "You're thrilled over an unknown microchip that how many doctors and experts have said only does bad things, including taking away specific emotions? Good luck".
I responded: "Giddy, even . . . so that must not be one of the problem emotions."
So: Watch out for missing emotions, I guess, vaccinated people? 😦
P.S. No, I don't believe this.
This is true. 100%. I have had 2 doses of the Pfizer shot (my husband too, since we're both in Early Childhood Education), and we are now nearly free of anxiety, fear, worry and uncertainty.
AND... I got to hug my 86 year old parents yesterday for the first time in a year. They have been fully vaccinated for 4 weeks. They both cried. It felt so good
Oh, man, I wish I'd had the insight to reply along those lines! (If the same person comments when I get the 2nd dose - because I'm sure going to post about it - I'm totally stealing that.) Congrats on being fully vaccinated, and thanks for the happy laugh!
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I am fully vaccinated myself and so is my husband, and I do feel that I have a higher level of protection, and less fear. However, I am not totally free of worry and I will not be until we get more people vaccinated, and have more data about the efficacy of the vaccines and their control on the new variants.
It is good to be positive and hopeful but over confidence is not in my book. I am a scientist (now retired) so I see things from a different perspective, and I am very cautious. I still practice safe distance and wear my mask everywhere and I don't go to crowed places.15 -
paperpudding wrote: »
I can imagine they are connected, where the immune systems was compromised/weakened dealing with the coronavirus vaccine allowing the virus for shingles to reactivate.5 -
paperpudding wrote: »paperpudding wrote: »Update on the shingles vaccine reaction if anyone is interested. While the urgent care doctor said that she "couldn't rule out" a vaccine reaction, the next day her GP told her definitively that she believes it to be a vaccine reaction. Given her age, general health, and the timing of the rash "you would not have shingles right now if you hadn't had the vaccine".
Don't shoot me I am just the messenger - that is what the doctors are telling us.
Personally it wouldn't dissuade me from getting the vaccine, I do wish that I had a shingles vaccine prior though.
Nobody is or was 'shooting' you
Would be interested to know via what mechanism the Dr thinks covid vaccine brought on shingles - since, as we all know, shingles is caused by re activation of chicken pox virus, dormant in your system since having the primary disease.
Or how he knows she wouldn't have shingles anyway - given young and healthy people can and do get it.
It is her professional opinion given her age, health status and the timing of the illness that it was triggered by the vaccine. I imagine she thinks it was brought on by stressing her immune system enough to reactivate the virus. Of course we will never know for sure, although as time goes on if we start seeing more cases I guess that will give more confirmation.
Ok, so she hasn't said by what mechanism this has happened just her opinion based on something
Her age and health status wouldn't suggest it to me - since since young healthy people do get shingles.
Not as commonly as older people but by no means rare.paperpudding wrote: »paperpudding wrote: »Update on the shingles vaccine reaction if anyone is interested. While the urgent care doctor said that she "couldn't rule out" a vaccine reaction, the next day her GP told her definitively that she believes it to be a vaccine reaction. Given her age, general health, and the timing of the rash "you would not have shingles right now if you hadn't had the vaccine".
Don't shoot me I am just the messenger - that is what the doctors are telling us.
Personally it wouldn't dissuade me from getting the vaccine, I do wish that I had a shingles vaccine prior though.
Nobody is or was 'shooting' you
Would be interested to know via what mechanism the Dr thinks covid vaccine brought on shingles - since, as we all know, shingles is caused by re activation of chicken pox virus, dormant in your system since having the primary disease.
Or how he knows she wouldn't have shingles anyway - given young and healthy people can and do get it.
It is her professional opinion given her age, health status and the timing of the illness that it was triggered by the vaccine. I imagine she thinks it was brought on by stressing her immune system enough to reactivate the virus. Of course we will never know for sure, although as time goes on if we start seeing more cases I guess that will give more confirmation.
Ok, so she hasn't said by what mechanism this has happened just her opinion based on something
Her age and health status wouldn't suggest it to me - since since young healthy people do get shingles.
Not as commonly as older people but by no means rare.
Honestly I wasn’t there (obviously) for the conversation and I didn’t grill my DIL on her exact wording.
So since it wouldn’t suggest it to you what would you suggest might be the cause - what is the usual trigger for shingles in young healthy people? I have mostly read that is triggered by reduced immunity, illness and/or stress. Is it more accurate that the cause is just random chance in your experience?
So correct me if I am wrong but you think it is more likely that this just occurred randomly with no identifiable stressor - than that it is somehow linked to a vaccine that directly affects the immune system? I guess to me with no other risk factor one would logically at least suspect the one risk factor that was recently introduced.
Experience only for what it’s worth. I had shingles twice, once in my 20’s and in my mid 40’s. I’m 71 now. Most of my major stresses have been in my 50’s and 60’s. I kind of feel like stress is something of a factor in shingles, just not the whole cause. I haven’t decided whether to get a vaccination for shingles. Still waiting to see when I can get the Covid-19 one.
I can say it is very very painful. Thank goodness it only lasted a few days.6 -
My dh just got his 1st Moderna yesterday, and right after that, his place of employment was taking registrations for the J&J vaccine. Within half an hour it was filled up. Yikes.8
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Just catching up on the thread. Interesting stuff on here.
Got back yesterday from Austin. Tucson to Austin and back is a brutal drive. Was pleasantly surprised that even in West Texas (hardly a liberal bastion) that nearly everyone had masks on. Seems like you can legislate stupid laws but most people have common sense and will override that. Was nice to see people actually caring for each other.
The main risk I felt like I was taking was staying in 3 hotels. Even though we were masked the entire time except in our room, I don't like the A/C systems and don't trust them. Heavy Lisol spray when we checked in and even into the A/C system. Only a 10 day period will show if I'm OK or not. Just feel crappy from the drive and eating like garbage for a week. I'm Celiac, so finding dining options on the road is always a challenge.
I think my daughter is also in a better emotional state now, which is great. Slowly getting back to her old self and getting her confidence/mojo back. I may have her work with me for a while to get her feet back under her. She's an amazing consultant. Would likely help my business as well. We're fortunate in that regard that I can train and employ my kids. I just don't want them to follow in my footsteps. I want them to pursue something that makes them happy. I think she'd be bored with what I do. My son worked with me for five years and hated it. "Headhunting" sounds glamerous. It's actually very, very mundane and boring to most people.12 -
My dh just got his 1st Moderna yesterday, and right after that, his place of employment was taking registrations for the J&J vaccine. Within half an hour it was filled up. Yikes.
Really curious as to why a person would disagree with this? I was merely making a statement of my dh's experience and ............never mind. It doesn't matter.12 -
T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »I am just now eligible to get the vaccine in TN. I move to TX in a week and won't be eligible there for a few months, it appears. So I am getting the first dose tomorrow here. The second dose, I'll have to figure out later and may be more delayed than most. But from what I can tell, the first vaccine still offers a lot of protection, so I am not willing to wait just for convenience.
Yikes. Out of the frying pan and into the fire.
At least you are getting the first dose. My sis is in Houston, and she's on the waiting list for her first dose as high risk. She has no idea how long it will be though. Good luck with your move!8 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »This could be controversial, but I'm just reporting, having found it . . . remarkable.
I mentioned here that I got the Pfizer vax, shot 1, yesterday (zero side effects by the way, not even arm soreness). I also posted about it on Facebook, saying I was happy to finally get it after a long time on the waiting list.
Reply to that from someone I know (who was serious, BTW): "You're thrilled over an unknown microchip that how many doctors and experts have said only does bad things, including taking away specific emotions? Good luck".
I responded: "Giddy, even . . . so that must not be one of the problem emotions."
So: Watch out for missing emotions, I guess, vaccinated people? 😦
P.S. No, I don't believe this.
I wonder how these people feel about things like heart pacers, metal screws and plates used to fix broken bones and modern diabetes treatment.
A colleague has type 1 diabetes and just got a new blood sugar measuring thing installed, it’s some kind of button attached to his arm that sends measurements to some app on his phone when he presses a button on the app, apparently. We had a good laugh at the office about his willingness to microchip himself and that he’s now literally a cyborg. We all unanimously congratulated him on his cool new tool that helps him monitor his health and hoped for a chance to ”microchip ourselves with covid vaccine”. (None of us think there is a microchip in the vaccine, we’re being sarcastic)
I’m kind of intrigued to know what these vaccine=microchip people would think about my colleague’s new diabetes tool.
These nut jobs literally believe that Bill Gates created the virus as well as the vaccine in order to chip people. I mean...I really don't understand how people can even get into this kind of conspiracy stuff without thinking to themselves..."I sound like an idiot"
Or that it will rewrite your DNA and make you not-human anymore. Can't even with these people.8 -
I listened to a TWIV quick clinical update with some interesting stuff:
They did a quick update on the J&J vaccine now that more data has been released. They said after 28 days, J&J had a 100% effective rate as far as preventing disease requiring serious medical intervention or hospitalization. They also PCR tested everyone between 29 and 71 days after the one shot for viral particles that would show some level of asymptomatic infection leading to spread and found the vaccine was 74% effective overall. Especially considering this trial was run after some of the more worrisome variants are out there, this is another hint that the vaccines will at least greatly reduce transmission, which is kind of awesome.
Still early, but no serious side effects have been reported yet, just soar arm and fatigue. They noted that J&J uses the same vaccine platform for their ebola vaccine, which has been given to over 200,000 people over the last decade, so there is every reason to be confident in the safety.
They also mentioned that many studies are now showing no benefit to treatment with convalescent plasma, it just doesn't seem to help at all.
The standard at this point is monoclonal antibodies early in disease, and steroids in those who are very ill. If you test positive and have ANY increased risk factors, you should advocate for yourself and make sure you get the monoclonal antibody serum if at all positive.
Speaking of plasma, a branch of this place just opened near me:
https://octapharmaplasma.com/about
I thought they were going to GIVE treatments, and expected them to close again quickly. But it looks like they are collecting blood, which seems like an odd business model.0 -
I will definitely be interested in getting this test if it is ever readily accessible....
"The first-of-its-kind test for detecting whether someone was infected withCOVID-19 in the past -- using the body's T-cells -- was granted emergency authorization by the Food and Drug Administration late Friday night."
For those who were never confirmed cases or who were tested or antibodies past the three month mark.
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/fda-authorizes-cell-test-game-changer-covid-19/story?id=76318248&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=news_tab&utm_content=algorithm4 -
paperpudding wrote: »paperpudding wrote: »Update on the shingles vaccine reaction if anyone is interested. While the urgent care doctor said that she "couldn't rule out" a vaccine reaction, the next day her GP told her definitively that she believes it to be a vaccine reaction. Given her age, general health, and the timing of the rash "you would not have shingles right now if you hadn't had the vaccine".
Don't shoot me I am just the messenger - that is what the doctors are telling us.
Personally it wouldn't dissuade me from getting the vaccine, I do wish that I had a shingles vaccine prior though.
Nobody is or was 'shooting' you
Would be interested to know via what mechanism the Dr thinks covid vaccine brought on shingles - since, as we all know, shingles is caused by re activation of chicken pox virus, dormant in your system since having the primary disease.
Or how he knows she wouldn't have shingles anyway - given young and healthy people can and do get it.
It is her professional opinion given her age, health status and the timing of the illness that it was triggered by the vaccine. I imagine she thinks it was brought on by stressing her immune system enough to reactivate the virus. Of course we will never know for sure, although as time goes on if we start seeing more cases I guess that will give more confirmation.
Ok, so she hasn't said by what mechanism this has happened just her opinion based on something
Her age and health status wouldn't suggest it to me - since since young healthy people do get shingles.
Not as commonly as older people but by no means rare.paperpudding wrote: »paperpudding wrote: »Update on the shingles vaccine reaction if anyone is interested. While the urgent care doctor said that she "couldn't rule out" a vaccine reaction, the next day her GP told her definitively that she believes it to be a vaccine reaction. Given her age, general health, and the timing of the rash "you would not have shingles right now if you hadn't had the vaccine".
Don't shoot me I am just the messenger - that is what the doctors are telling us.
Personally it wouldn't dissuade me from getting the vaccine, I do wish that I had a shingles vaccine prior though.
Nobody is or was 'shooting' you
Would be interested to know via what mechanism the Dr thinks covid vaccine brought on shingles - since, as we all know, shingles is caused by re activation of chicken pox virus, dormant in your system since having the primary disease.
Or how he knows she wouldn't have shingles anyway - given young and healthy people can and do get it.
It is her professional opinion given her age, health status and the timing of the illness that it was triggered by the vaccine. I imagine she thinks it was brought on by stressing her immune system enough to reactivate the virus. Of course we will never know for sure, although as time goes on if we start seeing more cases I guess that will give more confirmation.
Ok, so she hasn't said by what mechanism this has happened just her opinion based on something
Her age and health status wouldn't suggest it to me - since since young healthy people do get shingles.
Not as commonly as older people but by no means rare.
Honestly I wasn’t there (obviously) for the conversation and I didn’t grill my DIL on her exact wording.
So since it wouldn’t suggest it to you what would you suggest might be the cause - what is the usual trigger for shingles in young healthy people? I have mostly read that is triggered by reduced immunity, illness and/or stress. Is it more accurate that the cause is just random chance in your experience?
So correct me if I am wrong but you think it is more likely that this just occurred randomly with no identifiable stressor - than that it is somehow linked to a vaccine that directly affects the immune system? I guess to me with no other risk factor one would logically at least suspect the one risk factor that was recently introduced.
Experience only for what it’s worth. I had shingles twice, once in my 20’s and in my mid 40’s. I’m 71 now. Most of my major stresses have been in my 50’s and 60’s. I kind of feel like stress is something of a factor in shingles, just not the whole cause. I haven’t decided whether to get a vaccination for shingles. Still waiting to see when I can get the Covid-19 one.
I can say it is very very painful. Thank goodness it only lasted a few days.
After this I am definitely going to get the shingles vaccine once I am done with the Covid series. I almost got it a couple of years ago when 2 people out of my 7 person office got shingles within a couple weeks of each other. I had the prescription to fill but it was I think $400, so I cheaped out and decided to wait until I am 60 and it is covered under our gov't plan. Think I'll just suck it up and pay for rather than wait another 5 years.5 -
paperpudding wrote: »paperpudding wrote: »Update on the shingles vaccine reaction if anyone is interested. While the urgent care doctor said that she "couldn't rule out" a vaccine reaction, the next day her GP told her definitively that she believes it to be a vaccine reaction. Given her age, general health, and the timing of the rash "you would not have shingles right now if you hadn't had the vaccine".
Don't shoot me I am just the messenger - that is what the doctors are telling us.
Personally it wouldn't dissuade me from getting the vaccine, I do wish that I had a shingles vaccine prior though.
Nobody is or was 'shooting' you
Would be interested to know via what mechanism the Dr thinks covid vaccine brought on shingles - since, as we all know, shingles is caused by re activation of chicken pox virus, dormant in your system since having the primary disease.
Or how he knows she wouldn't have shingles anyway - given young and healthy people can and do get it.
It is her professional opinion given her age, health status and the timing of the illness that it was triggered by the vaccine. I imagine she thinks it was brought on by stressing her immune system enough to reactivate the virus. Of course we will never know for sure, although as time goes on if we start seeing more cases I guess that will give more confirmation.
Ok, so she hasn't said by what mechanism this has happened just her opinion based on something
Her age and health status wouldn't suggest it to me - since since young healthy people do get shingles.
Not as commonly as older people but by no means rare.paperpudding wrote: »paperpudding wrote: »Update on the shingles vaccine reaction if anyone is interested. While the urgent care doctor said that she "couldn't rule out" a vaccine reaction, the next day her GP told her definitively that she believes it to be a vaccine reaction. Given her age, general health, and the timing of the rash "you would not have shingles right now if you hadn't had the vaccine".
Don't shoot me I am just the messenger - that is what the doctors are telling us.
Personally it wouldn't dissuade me from getting the vaccine, I do wish that I had a shingles vaccine prior though.
Nobody is or was 'shooting' you
Would be interested to know via what mechanism the Dr thinks covid vaccine brought on shingles - since, as we all know, shingles is caused by re activation of chicken pox virus, dormant in your system since having the primary disease.
Or how he knows she wouldn't have shingles anyway - given young and healthy people can and do get it.
It is her professional opinion given her age, health status and the timing of the illness that it was triggered by the vaccine. I imagine she thinks it was brought on by stressing her immune system enough to reactivate the virus. Of course we will never know for sure, although as time goes on if we start seeing more cases I guess that will give more confirmation.
Ok, so she hasn't said by what mechanism this has happened just her opinion based on something
Her age and health status wouldn't suggest it to me - since since young healthy people do get shingles.
Not as commonly as older people but by no means rare.
Honestly I wasn’t there (obviously) for the conversation and I didn’t grill my DIL on her exact wording.
So since it wouldn’t suggest it to you what would you suggest might be the cause - what is the usual trigger for shingles in young healthy people? I have mostly read that is triggered by reduced immunity, illness and/or stress. Is it more accurate that the cause is just random chance in your experience?
So correct me if I am wrong but you think it is more likely that this just occurred randomly with no identifiable stressor - than that it is somehow linked to a vaccine that directly affects the immune system? I guess to me with no other risk factor one would logically at least suspect the one risk factor that was recently introduced.
Experience only for what it’s worth. I had shingles twice, once in my 20’s and in my mid 40’s. I’m 71 now. Most of my major stresses have been in my 50’s and 60’s. I kind of feel like stress is something of a factor in shingles, just not the whole cause. I haven’t decided whether to get a vaccination for shingles. Still waiting to see when I can get the Covid-19 one.
I can say it is very very painful. Thank goodness it only lasted a few days.
I had a shingles vaccination, then had shingles pain for 12 years. Like you said. Just my experience.7 -
kshama2001 wrote: »I listened to a TWIV quick clinical update with some interesting stuff:
They did a quick update on the J&J vaccine now that more data has been released. They said after 28 days, J&J had a 100% effective rate as far as preventing disease requiring serious medical intervention or hospitalization. They also PCR tested everyone between 29 and 71 days after the one shot for viral particles that would show some level of asymptomatic infection leading to spread and found the vaccine was 74% effective overall. Especially considering this trial was run after some of the more worrisome variants are out there, this is another hint that the vaccines will at least greatly reduce transmission, which is kind of awesome.
Still early, but no serious side effects have been reported yet, just soar arm and fatigue. They noted that J&J uses the same vaccine platform for their ebola vaccine, which has been given to over 200,000 people over the last decade, so there is every reason to be confident in the safety.
They also mentioned that many studies are now showing no benefit to treatment with convalescent plasma, it just doesn't seem to help at all.
The standard at this point is monoclonal antibodies early in disease, and steroids in those who are very ill. If you test positive and have ANY increased risk factors, you should advocate for yourself and make sure you get the monoclonal antibody serum if at all positive.
Speaking of plasma, a branch of this place just opened near me:
https://octapharmaplasma.com/about
I thought they were going to GIVE treatments, and expected them to close again quickly. But it looks like they are collecting blood, which seems like an odd business model.
I knew some college students who basically used getting paid for their plasma as a side gig.
I don't remember the spiel I got the first few times I gave blood, but I think plasma is used in several traumatic injury type treatments. When I was donating platelets, they also used to take a bag of plasma too.
It was illegal to get paid for blood/blood component donations in NY, but now that I'm in VA I noticed there are a couple of collection businesses around here.3 -
kshama2001 wrote: »I listened to a TWIV quick clinical update with some interesting stuff:
They did a quick update on the J&J vaccine now that more data has been released. They said after 28 days, J&J had a 100% effective rate as far as preventing disease requiring serious medical intervention or hospitalization. They also PCR tested everyone between 29 and 71 days after the one shot for viral particles that would show some level of asymptomatic infection leading to spread and found the vaccine was 74% effective overall. Especially considering this trial was run after some of the more worrisome variants are out there, this is another hint that the vaccines will at least greatly reduce transmission, which is kind of awesome.
Still early, but no serious side effects have been reported yet, just soar arm and fatigue. They noted that J&J uses the same vaccine platform for their ebola vaccine, which has been given to over 200,000 people over the last decade, so there is every reason to be confident in the safety.
They also mentioned that many studies are now showing no benefit to treatment with convalescent plasma, it just doesn't seem to help at all.
The standard at this point is monoclonal antibodies early in disease, and steroids in those who are very ill. If you test positive and have ANY increased risk factors, you should advocate for yourself and make sure you get the monoclonal antibody serum if at all positive.
Speaking of plasma, a branch of this place just opened near me:
https://octapharmaplasma.com/about
I thought they were going to GIVE treatments, and expected them to close again quickly. But it looks like they are collecting blood, which seems like an odd business model.
I knew some college students who basically used getting paid for their plasma as a side gig.
I don't remember the spiel I got the first few times I gave blood, but I think plasma is used in several traumatic injury type treatments. When I was donating platelets, they also used to take a bag of plasma too.
It was illegal to get paid for blood/blood component donations in NY, but now that I'm in VA I noticed there are a couple of collection businesses around here.
Yeah, I had friends in college even back in the 1970s that gave plasma for cash, at businesses like that. Don't know about now, but they used to be more common in college towns and in very low income areas or areas with a lot of unemployment/homelessness.2 -
paperpudding wrote: »paperpudding wrote: »Update on the shingles vaccine reaction if anyone is interested. While the urgent care doctor said that she "couldn't rule out" a vaccine reaction, the next day her GP told her definitively that she believes it to be a vaccine reaction. Given her age, general health, and the timing of the rash "you would not have shingles right now if you hadn't had the vaccine".
Don't shoot me I am just the messenger - that is what the doctors are telling us.
Personally it wouldn't dissuade me from getting the vaccine, I do wish that I had a shingles vaccine prior though.
Nobody is or was 'shooting' you
Would be interested to know via what mechanism the Dr thinks covid vaccine brought on shingles - since, as we all know, shingles is caused by re activation of chicken pox virus, dormant in your system since having the primary disease.
Or how he knows she wouldn't have shingles anyway - given young and healthy people can and do get it.
It is her professional opinion given her age, health status and the timing of the illness that it was triggered by the vaccine. I imagine she thinks it was brought on by stressing her immune system enough to reactivate the virus. Of course we will never know for sure, although as time goes on if we start seeing more cases I guess that will give more confirmation.
Ok, so she hasn't said by what mechanism this has happened just her opinion based on something
Her age and health status wouldn't suggest it to me - since since young healthy people do get shingles.
Not as commonly as older people but by no means rare.paperpudding wrote: »paperpudding wrote: »Update on the shingles vaccine reaction if anyone is interested. While the urgent care doctor said that she "couldn't rule out" a vaccine reaction, the next day her GP told her definitively that she believes it to be a vaccine reaction. Given her age, general health, and the timing of the rash "you would not have shingles right now if you hadn't had the vaccine".
Don't shoot me I am just the messenger - that is what the doctors are telling us.
Personally it wouldn't dissuade me from getting the vaccine, I do wish that I had a shingles vaccine prior though.
Nobody is or was 'shooting' you
Would be interested to know via what mechanism the Dr thinks covid vaccine brought on shingles - since, as we all know, shingles is caused by re activation of chicken pox virus, dormant in your system since having the primary disease.
Or how he knows she wouldn't have shingles anyway - given young and healthy people can and do get it.
It is her professional opinion given her age, health status and the timing of the illness that it was triggered by the vaccine. I imagine she thinks it was brought on by stressing her immune system enough to reactivate the virus. Of course we will never know for sure, although as time goes on if we start seeing more cases I guess that will give more confirmation.
Ok, so she hasn't said by what mechanism this has happened just her opinion based on something
Her age and health status wouldn't suggest it to me - since since young healthy people do get shingles.
Not as commonly as older people but by no means rare.
Honestly I wasn’t there (obviously) for the conversation and I didn’t grill my DIL on her exact wording.
So since it wouldn’t suggest it to you what would you suggest might be the cause - what is the usual trigger for shingles in young healthy people? I have mostly read that is triggered by reduced immunity, illness and/or stress. Is it more accurate that the cause is just random chance in your experience?
So correct me if I am wrong but you think it is more likely that this just occurred randomly with no identifiable stressor - than that it is somehow linked to a vaccine that directly affects the immune system? I guess to me with no other risk factor one would logically at least suspect the one risk factor that was recently introduced.
Experience only for what it’s worth. I had shingles twice, once in my 20’s and in my mid 40’s. I’m 71 now. Most of my major stresses have been in my 50’s and 60’s. I kind of feel like stress is something of a factor in shingles, just not the whole cause. I haven’t decided whether to get a vaccination for shingles. Still waiting to see when I can get the Covid-19 one.
I can say it is very very painful. Thank goodness it only lasted a few days.
After this I am definitely going to get the shingles vaccine once I am done with the Covid series. I almost got it a couple of years ago when 2 people out of my 7 person office got shingles within a couple weeks of each other. I had the prescription to fill but it was I think $400, so I cheaped out and decided to wait until I am 60 and it is covered under our gov't plan. Think I'll just suck it up and pay for rather than wait another 5 years.
I had heard that there was a greater likelihood of developing shingles if one had chicken pox as an adult (although apparently this is not substantiated) so I was begging for that vaccine as soon as I turned 50. Fortunately my drug benefit plan covered it... but not the $20 fee for the pharmacist to inject it.4 -
kshama2001 wrote: »I listened to a TWIV quick clinical update with some interesting stuff:
They did a quick update on the J&J vaccine now that more data has been released. They said after 28 days, J&J had a 100% effective rate as far as preventing disease requiring serious medical intervention or hospitalization. They also PCR tested everyone between 29 and 71 days after the one shot for viral particles that would show some level of asymptomatic infection leading to spread and found the vaccine was 74% effective overall. Especially considering this trial was run after some of the more worrisome variants are out there, this is another hint that the vaccines will at least greatly reduce transmission, which is kind of awesome.
Still early, but no serious side effects have been reported yet, just soar arm and fatigue. They noted that J&J uses the same vaccine platform for their ebola vaccine, which has been given to over 200,000 people over the last decade, so there is every reason to be confident in the safety.
They also mentioned that many studies are now showing no benefit to treatment with convalescent plasma, it just doesn't seem to help at all.
The standard at this point is monoclonal antibodies early in disease, and steroids in those who are very ill. If you test positive and have ANY increased risk factors, you should advocate for yourself and make sure you get the monoclonal antibody serum if at all positive.
Speaking of plasma, a branch of this place just opened near me:
https://octapharmaplasma.com/about
I thought they were going to GIVE treatments, and expected them to close again quickly. But it looks like they are collecting blood, which seems like an odd business model.
Donated blood and plasma is processed and sold for a very nice return. I've read a pint of blood can go for $180 to $300, depending on demand. A liter of plasma that costs a company about $150 to collect/process can sell for around $500—a substantial markup in any industry..
VICE: America Is Selling Blood for Big Profits to the Rest of the World2 -
Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »I will definitely be interested in getting this test if it is ever readily accessible....
"The first-of-its-kind test for detecting whether someone was infected withCOVID-19 in the past -- using the body's T-cells -- was granted emergency authorization by the Food and Drug Administration late Friday night."
For those who were never confirmed cases or who were tested or antibodies past the three month mark.
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/fda-authorizes-cell-test-game-changer-covid-19/story?id=76318248&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=news_tab&utm_content=algorithm
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Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »I will definitely be interested in getting this test if it is ever readily accessible....
"The first-of-its-kind test for detecting whether someone was infected withCOVID-19 in the past -- using the body's T-cells -- was granted emergency authorization by the Food and Drug Administration late Friday night."
For those who were never confirmed cases or who were tested or antibodies past the three month mark.
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/fda-authorizes-cell-test-game-changer-covid-19/story?id=76318248&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=news_tab&utm_content=algorithm
I would guess that's going to depend on how many labs can process the test and what you're willing to pay. It says it's an expensive blood test using a new technology. So I'd expect insurance won't cover it if you're not a long hauler (if even then), at least in the beginning.6 -
Research in UK is beginning to suggest having the vaccine can help with "long covid" symptoms.4
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