Coronavirus prep
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missysippy930 wrote: »I mentioned yesterday that my daughter woke up with a sore throat and runny nose. She tested yesterday. She called me at 8 am today to let me know her test was positive. She visited us Saturday and had no symptoms. We went in for tests at noon today. The National Guard was administering the tests at the site we went to. Very well organized and moved quickly.
We’re scheduled for our second Moderna shot 4/8. Hopefully we’ll have negative results.
Please be careful everyone. My daughter has been very diligent about following all guidelines during this past year. Her company has had most employees working from home for about 5-6 years. She has very little outside contact, besides visiting us, and grocery shopping.
I hope everyone in your family is okay.
The good news is that you got your first Moderna shot more than two weeks ago. They are finding that there is really good protection at that point, so, hopefully, you will test negative.17 -
Had my first Covid shot today.
Astra Zeneca - as will everyone in Australia other than phase1a which is hospital hubs giving Pfizer.
We are now also onto phase 1b which includes, among other criteria, "other health workers" - so that's me.
About 6 hours ago - mildly sore arm, no other side effects so far.13 -
paperpudding wrote: »Had my first Covid shot today.
Astra Zeneca - as will everyone in Australia other than phase1a which is hospital hubs giving Pfizer.
We are now also onto phase 1b which includes, among other criteria, "other health workers" - so that's me.
About 6 hours ago - mildly sore arm, no other side effects so far.
I had a first shot today too, it was pfizer. I work in a regional airport and while not frontline, as part of airport management we were included in the 1a phase too. Second shot is three weeks away.
Hasn't been three hours yet for me, but so far nothing.
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3 weeks away?
that is interesting
AZ: we were told 12 weeks between doses.3 -
paperpudding wrote: »3 weeks away?
that is interesting
AZ: we were told 12 weeks between doses.
I believe the protocol for Pfizer is three weeks between doses (at least in Australia, don't know about anywhere else).3 -
I didnt know that.
I guess that does mean people in phase1a, the highest risk group, will be fully vaccinated sooner, so that's good.
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Just breaking -- Pfizer announces they are 100% effective for kids 12 to 15. That's awesome.
I got Pfizer last Friday (first shot). My next shot was scheduled 3 weeks later.11 -
paperpudding wrote: »3 weeks away?
that is interesting
AZ: we were told 12 weeks between doses.
Yes, Pfizer is 3 weeks and Moderna is 4 weeks.3 -
MikePfirrman wrote: »Just breaking -- Pfizer announces they are 100% effective for kids 12 to 15. That's awesome.
I got Pfizer last Friday (first shot). My next shot was scheduled 3 weeks later.
That's great, but 100% effective? Have never heard of a vaccine with that level of protection.3 -
Theoldguy1 wrote: »MikePfirrman wrote: »Just breaking -- Pfizer announces they are 100% effective for kids 12 to 15. That's awesome.
I got Pfizer last Friday (first shot). My next shot was scheduled 3 weeks later.
That's great, but 100% effective? Have never heard of a vaccine with that level of protection.
That's what they are claiming. They say it's 90% for adults, so with kids' natural immunity, I don't see that as a huge stretch. Perhaps it's like 99.8% and they are rounding up. I'm sure you'll hear more details later on it as they come out. I'm also not aware of how many were in the study. I would guess it has to be larger numbers.
Found a bit more details on it.
https://www.businessinsider.com/pfizers-covid-19-vaccine-is-100-effective-in-12-to-15-year-olds-2021-3
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tiptoethruthetulips wrote: »paperpudding wrote: »3 weeks away?
that is interesting
AZ: we were told 12 weeks between doses.
I believe the protocol for Pfizer is three weeks between doses (at least in Australia, don't know about anywhere else).
Unless you are in Canada! We are spacing Pfizer out to 16 weeks. Got my first early March, next one June 28.
I think we are in much worse shape than Australia though, our cases are surging right now and they want to get as many first shots in arms as possible. Plus we have an ongoing vaccine shortage.
Astra Zeneca is also on hold here for those under 55 due to the blood clot issue. The Astra Zeneca rollout has been a nightmare here - first it was only for those under 60, then up to 65, then they said anyone can get it, now they are saying only over 55. Wouldn't surprise me if most of it goes in the garbage they have lost the confidence of the population with the constant recommendation changes, and I already know people who are refusing it (or planning to refuse it).7 -
Got my first Pfizer shot a week ago. My county opened it up to all adults last week—there were still plenty of spots left after being in phase 2 something, so happy they did that. Went through the county system—drive through appt, in and out (including 15 min wait period) in 35 minutes.
Sore arm for a day, but I did have swollen and painful occipital and periauricular lymph nodes, mostly in the opposite side from vaccinated arm. The day after shot I thought I had slept in my earbuds and maybe weirdly on my neck, then day 2 post vaccine I was wondering what in the world I had done to myself because neck hurt so badly. Massaging what I thought were tight muscles, noticed a couple lumps. Physician husband confirmed lymph nodes. So hopefully that means my body is working hard right now! A week later, still swollen and painful but significantly improved. Other than that no symptoms.
Happy TN opened things up , somewhat annoyed my parents (late 70s, multiple underlying conditions—diabetes, heart disease, lupus) are getting their second shot today in SC. So they were only two weeks ahead of me, which is crazy.7 -
MikePfirrman wrote: »Theoldguy1 wrote: »MikePfirrman wrote: »Just breaking -- Pfizer announces they are 100% effective for kids 12 to 15. That's awesome.
I got Pfizer last Friday (first shot). My next shot was scheduled 3 weeks later.
That's great, but 100% effective? Have never heard of a vaccine with that level of protection.
That's what they are claiming. They say it's 90% for adults, so with kids' natural immunity, I don't see that as a huge stretch. Perhaps it's like 99.8% and they are rounding up. I'm sure you'll hear more details later on it as they come out. I'm also not aware of how many were in the study. I would guess it has to be larger numbers.
Found a bit more details on it.
https://www.businessinsider.com/pfizers-covid-19-vaccine-is-100-effective-in-12-to-15-year-olds-2021-3
Looks like it's pretty good. This is from the article
Pfizer tested the vaccine in about 2,000 adolescents
The companies tested the vaccine about 2,000 peoples ages 12 to 15. Half of them received two doses of the vaccine and half received two placebo injections.
None of the kids who got the vaccine came down with COVID-19, while 18 cases were reported in the group that got a placebo shot. The companies touted this result as 100% efficacy.
Sounds like none of the kids got sick right after the shot. Doesn't really address what happens a few months down the road. I can't see them claiming 100% effective since when the one oddball kid gets a severe case of Covid they will be looking at a large lawsuit IMO, even if in fact the shot is very good.3 -
For those who disagreed that the Astra Zeneca rollout is a fiasco in Canada:
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-astrazeneca-is-a-good-vaccine-but-a-public-relations-failure/
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/30/canada-suspends-use-of-astrazeneca-covid-vaccine-for-those-under-555 -
tiptoethruthetulips wrote: »paperpudding wrote: »3 weeks away?
that is interesting
AZ: we were told 12 weeks between doses.
I believe the protocol for Pfizer is three weeks between doses (at least in Australia, don't know about anywhere else).
Yes, Pfizer is three weeks in between doses (in the US).2 -
And now lawsuits are being threatened over the Pfizer vaccine booster extension in Ontario. "Medical battery".
I'm not surprised - once they changed the schedule for those who had already received their first dose that basically negated our informed consent. They should have just done it going forward for those who hadn't received one yet, and changed the consent accordingly.
(Fwiw I am OK with delaying my own personal second shot for the greater good - I am just looking at it from a legal/informed consent perspective.)
Honestly this whole pandemic has been a nightmare in Canada. I guess it's been a nightmare everywhere but there is literally no leadership here and everything is a delayed reaction that is two steps behind.
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/medical-battery-ontario-threatened-with-lawsuit-over-four-month-delay-for-covid-booster-shot5 -
Theoldguy1 wrote: »MikePfirrman wrote: »Theoldguy1 wrote: »MikePfirrman wrote: »Just breaking -- Pfizer announces they are 100% effective for kids 12 to 15. That's awesome.
I got Pfizer last Friday (first shot). My next shot was scheduled 3 weeks later.
That's great, but 100% effective? Have never heard of a vaccine with that level of protection.
That's what they are claiming. They say it's 90% for adults, so with kids' natural immunity, I don't see that as a huge stretch. Perhaps it's like 99.8% and they are rounding up. I'm sure you'll hear more details later on it as they come out. I'm also not aware of how many were in the study. I would guess it has to be larger numbers.
Found a bit more details on it.
https://www.businessinsider.com/pfizers-covid-19-vaccine-is-100-effective-in-12-to-15-year-olds-2021-3
Looks like it's pretty good. This is from the article
Pfizer tested the vaccine in about 2,000 adolescents
The companies tested the vaccine about 2,000 peoples ages 12 to 15. Half of them received two doses of the vaccine and half received two placebo injections.
None of the kids who got the vaccine came down with COVID-19, while 18 cases were reported in the group that got a placebo shot. The companies touted this result as 100% efficacy.
Sounds like none of the kids got sick right after the shot. Doesn't really address what happens a few months down the road. I can't see them claiming 100% effective since when the one oddball kid gets a severe case of Covid they will be looking at a large lawsuit IMO, even if in fact the shot is very good.
It's still a relatively small sample size. 2K sounds like a lot, but if we're only talking 18 cases, that's technically still 100%, so they aren't inaccurate in saying it. I'm sure with a nationwide rollout you'll see someone that still gets it.
But any way you slice it, it's very encouraging.
BTW, the disagree police are out in full force again it seems6 -
MikePfirrman wrote: »Theoldguy1 wrote: »MikePfirrman wrote: »Theoldguy1 wrote: »MikePfirrman wrote: »Just breaking -- Pfizer announces they are 100% effective for kids 12 to 15. That's awesome.
I got Pfizer last Friday (first shot). My next shot was scheduled 3 weeks later.
That's great, but 100% effective? Have never heard of a vaccine with that level of protection.
That's what they are claiming. They say it's 90% for adults, so with kids' natural immunity, I don't see that as a huge stretch. Perhaps it's like 99.8% and they are rounding up. I'm sure you'll hear more details later on it as they come out. I'm also not aware of how many were in the study. I would guess it has to be larger numbers.
Found a bit more details on it.
https://www.businessinsider.com/pfizers-covid-19-vaccine-is-100-effective-in-12-to-15-year-olds-2021-3
Looks like it's pretty good. This is from the article
Pfizer tested the vaccine in about 2,000 adolescents
The companies tested the vaccine about 2,000 peoples ages 12 to 15. Half of them received two doses of the vaccine and half received two placebo injections.
None of the kids who got the vaccine came down with COVID-19, while 18 cases were reported in the group that got a placebo shot. The companies touted this result as 100% efficacy.
Sounds like none of the kids got sick right after the shot. Doesn't really address what happens a few months down the road. I can't see them claiming 100% effective since when the one oddball kid gets a severe case of Covid they will be looking at a large lawsuit IMO, even if in fact the shot is very good.
It's still a relatively small sample size. 2K sounds like a lot, but if we're only talking 18 cases, that's technically still 100%, so they aren't inaccurate in saying it. I'm sure with a nationwide rollout you'll see someone that still gets it.
But any way you slice it, it's very encouraging.
BTW, the disagree police are out in full force again it seems
lol
I got a disagree for wishing someone well who had a Covid exposure. What kind of monster disagrees with that?
(Yes I called you a monster whoever you are - go ahead and disagree with it
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I got the Pfizer in February and my second shot was delayed for 2 weeks, so it was received 5 weeks after the first. There is no harm in slight delays as far as I can determine, but people are anxious and eager. The only side effect I've had besides a sore arm, and still don't know if it's related to the vaccine for sure, was/is the weird itching on my feet/ankles and hands/wrists and the left arm which is the one that got the shot. I briefly had a rash/itch across my forehead but that went away after a couple days (looked like hives?). I am managing it with Benedryl and I think it's getting better. I'm also slathering on moisturizer in case it's just some kind of winter dry skin and only coincidentally flared up after the vaccine. It is very similar to the eczema that I get on my elbows, so I'm thinking the eczema was triggered by the vaccine response and it's showing up in places where it normally isn't a problem. I am hoping and praying it is not related to my increased walking/exercise because my younger sister has a condition where she is allergic to exercise, or her own sweat, or some darn thing, but she breaks out in hives all over and has other serious effects. Her doctor told her to quit exercising and to avoid sunlight, poor thing.12
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LisaGetsMoving wrote: ».... Her doctor told her to quit exercising and to avoid sunlight, poor thing.
That sounds awful. Would be devastating to my mental health, methinks. I hope she can find a doctor who will work with her on another solution that isn't so limiting. I speak as a long time atopic dermatitis sufferer, so I know how awful the condition (along with the corresponding histamine rush) can feel. :flowerforyou:
ETA: I've had skin discomfort (itch, hive-like bumps, tightness & flaking) esp on my face starting 1.5~2 weeks post-1st dose (pfizer), but honestly, it could be anything. I could never draw a straight line correlation to the jab because, IME, there are so, so many factors involved.6 -
tiptoethruthetulips wrote: »paperpudding wrote: »3 weeks away?
that is interesting
AZ: we were told 12 weeks between doses.
I believe the protocol for Pfizer is three weeks between doses (at least in Australia, don't know about anywhere else).
That's what it is here (US) too, at least where I live. I managed to get shot one and there's 3 weeks between. [Edit, I see lots of others responded already!]3 -
missysippy930 wrote: »I mentioned yesterday that my daughter woke up with a sore throat and runny nose. She tested yesterday. She called me at 8 am today to let me know her test was positive. She visited us Saturday and had no symptoms. We went in for tests at noon today. The National Guard was administering the tests at the site we went to. Very well organized and moved quickly.
We’re scheduled for our second Moderna shot 4/8. Hopefully we’ll have negative results.
Please be careful everyone. My daughter has been very diligent about following all guidelines during this past year. Her company has had most employees working from home for about 5-6 years. She has very little outside contact, besides visiting us, and grocery shopping.
Wishing her a full and speedy recovery! 💖I have definitely seen cases where precautions were taken and community spread still happened.
And that was before the more transmissible strains were identified.2 -
Saw this today.
The Pandemic Has Sparked a Mass Mental Health Crisis Among College Students and Young Adults https://www.nbclosangeles.com/lx/the-pandemic-has-sparked-a-mass-mental-health-crisis-among-college-students-and-young-adults/2562973/
Speaking for my students, it’s less the isolation than the impact of the pandemic, illness/death of family and friends, loss of jobs, loss of housing, if they still have a place to live, other homeless relatives moving in.5 -
gradchica27 wrote: »Got my first Pfizer shot a week ago. My county opened it up to all adults last week—there were still plenty of spots left after being in phase 2 something, so happy they did that. Went through the county system—drive through appt, in and out (including 15 min wait period) in 35 minutes.
Sore arm for a day, but I did have swollen and painful occipital and periauricular lymph nodes, mostly in the opposite side from vaccinated arm. The day after shot I thought I had slept in my earbuds and maybe weirdly on my neck, then day 2 post vaccine I was wondering what in the world I had done to myself because neck hurt so badly. Massaging what I thought were tight muscles, noticed a couple lumps. Physician husband confirmed lymph nodes. So hopefully that means my body is working hard right now! A week later, still swollen and painful but significantly improved. Other than that no symptoms.
Happy TN opened things up , somewhat annoyed my parents (late 70s, multiple underlying conditions—diabetes, heart disease, lupus) are getting their second shot today in SC. So they were only two weeks ahead of me, which is crazy.
Sorry, off topic, but you mentioned your sore arm. I glanced at the arm in your profile pic. You have awesome arms. Just sayin'.
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gesundundmunter wrote: »tiptoethruthetulips wrote: »paperpudding wrote: »3 weeks away?
that is interesting
AZ: we were told 12 weeks between doses.
I believe the protocol for Pfizer is three weeks between doses (at least in Australia, don't know about anywhere else).
Yes, Pfizer is three weeks in between doses (in the US).
It’s the minimum—Modern is four weeks (previously stated by someone) however the shots won’t be less effective (based on what we know now) if the second is administered father apart.0 -
MikePfirrman wrote: »BTW, the disagree police are out in full force again it seems
Yeah—not sure how you can “disagree with someone providing details about the vaccine rollout in their area. Those posts are pretty matter of fact, and rather indisputable when links to news articles are provided.6 -
Saw this today.
The Pandemic Has Sparked a Mass Mental Health Crisis Among College Students and Young Adults https://www.nbclosangeles.com/lx/the-pandemic-has-sparked-a-mass-mental-health-crisis-among-college-students-and-young-adults/2562973/
Speaking for my students, it’s less the isolation than the impact of the pandemic, illness/death of family and friends, loss of jobs, loss of housing, if they still have a place to live, other homeless relatives moving in.
During the pandemic home prices have skyrocketed here (greater Toronto area). I mean the cost of housing was ridiculous before, but I guess with everyone working from home there has been a push out of the city, and homes even 2+ hours from Toronto, in towns no one would have ever considered before, are having bidding wars on them. It's insane.
The house across the street from me listed last week for $1M - and I guess they didn't get the bidding war they wanted on it so they relisted for $1.1M. Like this is a very average subdivision house 30 minutes outside of Toronto's suburbs that would have maybe sold for $800,000 in 2019.
I have three grown kids, two of whom do not own their own homes yet, and looks like they never will at this rate. That is pretty depressing too.:(
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In PA the Governor has announced that they are going to allow all the 1B and 1C to start registering in the next two weeks (frontline workers like police, fire, grocery store etc.) and then they will open it up to everyone. Since it's taken 3.5 months just to get the old and ill vaccinated, and they haven't finished with that group yet, opening it up to the other 2/3 of the population at once will be insanity. Still, as one of the few states that hadn't opened up vaccinations since they started in December, a lot of people were starting to get upset. I don't think they'll be any less upset when they realize that they can't get an actual appointment until July, if they can get through at all.3
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Saw this today.
The Pandemic Has Sparked a Mass Mental Health Crisis Among College Students and Young Adults https://www.nbclosangeles.com/lx/the-pandemic-has-sparked-a-mass-mental-health-crisis-among-college-students-and-young-adults/2562973/
Speaking for my students, it’s less the isolation than the impact of the pandemic, illness/death of family and friends, loss of jobs, loss of housing, if they still have a place to live, other homeless relatives moving in.
During the pandemic home prices have skyrocketed here (greater Toronto area). I mean the cost of housing was ridiculous before, but I guess with everyone working from home there has been a push out of the city, and homes even 2+ hours from Toronto, in towns no one would have ever considered before, are having bidding wars on them. It's insane.
The house across the street from me listed last week for $1M - and I guess they didn't get the bidding war they wanted on it so they relisted for $1.1M. Like this is a very average subdivision house 30 minutes outside of Toronto's suburbs that would have maybe sold for $800,000 in 2019.
I have three grown kids, two of whom do not own their own homes yet, and looks like they never will at this rate. That is pretty depressing too.:(
Hearing things like this makes me extra happy that we bought our apartment from a new development in 2019, before all of this, and then sat semi-comfortably in our cheap rented apartment until last December when we moved. I’m also really happy we were able to help my sister’s boyfriend’s sister and her family, who desperately needed a cheap rental apartment and they got ours based on our recommendation to our landlady.
Here the housing market is split in two. Prices of downtown rentals have actually gone down, for two main reasons: people who can are moving to the suburbs and countryside where there’s more space, and students are staying with their parents instead of moving to the city because their studies are remote (we don’t really have ”campus areas” with housing here, and the University of Helsinki has several campuses sprinkled across town). Buying prices, especially for family homes, have gone up both in suburbs and even in more remote areas ~2 hours around Helsinki, as people want more space, their own yards, and are realizing they are unlikely to return to 100% in-office work.3 -
Saw this today.
The Pandemic Has Sparked a Mass Mental Health Crisis Among College Students and Young Adults https://www.nbclosangeles.com/lx/the-pandemic-has-sparked-a-mass-mental-health-crisis-among-college-students-and-young-adults/2562973/
Speaking for my students, it’s less the isolation than the impact of the pandemic, illness/death of family and friends, loss of jobs, loss of housing, if they still have a place to live, other homeless relatives moving in.
During the pandemic home prices have skyrocketed here (greater Toronto area). I mean the cost of housing was ridiculous before, but I guess with everyone working from home there has been a push out of the city, and homes even 2+ hours from Toronto, in towns no one would have ever considered before, are having bidding wars on them. It's insane.
The house across the street from me listed last week for $1M - and I guess they didn't get the bidding war they wanted on it so they relisted for $1.1M. Like this is a very average subdivision house 30 minutes outside of Toronto's suburbs that would have maybe sold for $800,000 in 2019.
I have three grown kids, two of whom do not own their own homes yet, and looks like they never will at this rate. That is pretty depressing too.:(
Hearing things like this makes me extra happy that we bought our apartment from a new development in 2019, before all of this, and then sat semi-comfortably in our cheap rented apartment until last December when we moved. I’m also really happy we were able to help my sister’s boyfriend’s sister and her family, who desperately needed a cheap rental apartment and they got ours based on our recommendation to our landlady.
Here the housing market is split in two. Prices of downtown rentals have actually gone down, for two main reasons: people who can are moving to the suburbs and countryside where there’s more space, and students are staying with their parents instead of moving to the city because their studies are remote (we don’t really have ”campus areas” with housing here, and the University of Helsinki has several campuses sprinkled across town). Buying prices, especially for family homes, have gone up both in suburbs and even in more remote areas ~2 hours around Helsinki, as people want more space, their own yards, and are realizing they are unlikely to return to 100% in-office work.
My concern is also that it still might crash if/when people realize that they actually do have to go into the office, and driving 4 hours a day gets old. I am old enough to have seen it before when people over extend themselves to get into the market because they panic that "if they don't buy now they will never be able to". I feel for those people who may have bought at a false peak and could potentially lose their homes because they end up with negative equity.10
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