Coronavirus prep
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Ontario is stopping the Astra Zeneca vaccine altogether as a first dose. Apparently the blood clot cases were about 1 in 60,000 here and since we have loads of other vaccine options they decided to stop that one. If they continue on with it in Canada they expect there would be 20-25 more vaccine related deaths. Not sure what they are going to do with the thousands of people who already got it (They say the second dose risk is much, much lower - like one in a million. But then again they said that about the first dose too at the beginning). We have so much Pfizer vaccine coming in I am guessing they will give that as the second dose once they determine it is effective.
Daughter got her first dose today, and my sons are booked for Saturday, and next Tuesday. Finally going to have the whole family vaxx'd (first dose anyway).
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Is this thread closed? I know that three additional postings took place after @The_Enginerd on 5/09, but every time that I try to read them, I get an error message.
I think I know the posts you mean (showed up in notifications). I have a suspicion that those specific posts were deleted from the thread, whether at the request of those who posted them, or because of terms of service.
There was a troll. Lol. They and their posts are gone. ✅👏🏼4 -
@Gisel2015 if you get this in time, can you please untag the members in your last post? The posts were removed because they were against the terms of service, and there's no need to call that poster back here.6
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@Gisel2015 if you get this in time, can you please untag the members in your last post? The posts were removed because they were against the terms of service, and there's no need to call that poster back here.
Good morning @kimny72 and sorry for being late. How do you "untag" members in a post? I never did that before, but I don't want to remove snowflake since she is a good contributor to the thread. Besides it seems that she is baaaaack!1 -
@Gisel2015 if you get this in time, can you please untag the members in your last post? The posts were removed because they were against the terms of service, and there's no need to call that poster back here.
Good morning @kimny72 and sorry for being late. How do you "untag" members in a post? I never did that before, but I don't want to remove snowflake since she is a good contributor to the thread. Besides it seems that she is baaaaack!
It's OK. It's all good and you didn't miss much.0 -
back to subject line. I know a lot of us have weathered thru the vaccines but sometimes I still feel like damocletes (sp) sword is hanging over all of us. I don't know whether it's the news media or what's going on in India. I know the US rates are holding steady or dwindling down for now but in my own state it seems like we are holding steading to new cases at the same rate as last summer. So are these all unvaccinated people ?? I do know quite a few who have decided (for their own reasons) not to get vaccinated, and I worry about them and the "opening" up of the nation.9
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snowflake954 wrote: »@Gisel2015 if you get this in time, can you please untag the members in your last post? The posts were removed because they were against the terms of service, and there's no need to call that poster back here.
Good morning @kimny72 and sorry for being late. How do you "untag" members in a post? I never did that before, but I don't want to remove snowflake since she is a good contributor to the thread. Besides it seems that she is baaaaack!
It's OK. It's all good and you didn't miss much.
Darn! I needed some good excitement.1 -
SummerSkier wrote: »back to subject line. I know a lot of us have weathered thru the vaccines but sometimes I still feel like damocletes (sp) sword is hanging over all of us. I don't know whether it's the news media or what's going on in India. I know the US rates are holding steady or dwindling down for now but in my own state it seems like we are holding steading to new cases at the same rate as last summer. So are these all unvaccinated people ?? I do know quite a few who have decided (for their own reasons) not to get vaccinated, and I worry about them and the "opening" up of the nation.
Not sure where you live, but I think you have to look at it in context. I'm in NM and our current average of new cases are around 130 per day which is on par for where we were last summer but a far cry from where we were in November at around 3500-4000 new cases per day.
There is a huge difference though between last summer and right now for us...that being, we were basically completely shut down last year at this time. We had some of the stiffest closure and restriction orders in the country and pretty much literally all you could do was go grocery shopping. Fast forward a year, and yes...our new case numbers are on par with where they were last year around this time...but NM is pretty much open...if we had been this open last summer, our numbers would have been through the roof. Some things like large entertainment venues and clubs/bars have cap restrictions, but most places of business now have either no restrictions or cap restrictions around 75-80%. We still have mask mandates for enclosed or otherwise indoor places, but that's about it. I'm feeling almost normal...we have tickets to a NM United soccer game coming up as well as the local baseball team...eating out, kids are back in school full time, kids are having soccer practice and games, we are cleared for interstate travel without quarantine, WFH people are starting to make their way back into offices, etc.
So that means it's working...we have roughly the same number of new cases as last year at this time, but like I said...we were all but completely locked down, and this year we are pretty much open...or I'd say about 90-95% open. We have roughly 60% of the NM population fully vaccinated...so I'd say yeah, the new cases are among the roughly 40% who have decided not to get the vaccine.9 -
SummerSkier wrote: »back to subject line. I know a lot of us have weathered thru the vaccines but sometimes I still feel like damocletes (sp) sword is hanging over all of us. I don't know whether it's the news media or what's going on in India. I know the US rates are holding steady or dwindling down for now but in my own state it seems like we are holding steading to new cases at the same rate as last summer. So are these all unvaccinated people ?? I do know quite a few who have decided (for their own reasons) not to get vaccinated, and I worry about them and the "opening" up of the nation.
In California we seem to be doing well and in my county and community most, if not all, of the people have been vaccinated. But I do understand your concern because I feel the same. However, with so many people annoyed about the restriction when we were in the worse of the pandemic in the country, not traying to relax the regulations is a political suicide. That is all that people in government care about it. And of course, the economy of the states need to bounce back after taking a big plunge in the last 15 months.
I know that the CDC has been thinking in relaxing the use of masks indoors, but I do not agree with it and I am not planning to follow it. I still don't go out much (husband in rehab after surgery ), but when I go inside a store or medical office, the use of masks is still required. I just remove the mask as soon as I am outside.
I am not planning to go inside a movie theater, show, or crowded event in a very long time, with or without a mask. And I am having second thoughts about indoor eating too; considering the hot spring and summer in my neck of the woods, I may have to keep cooking or do take out for several more months
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cwolfman13 wrote: »SummerSkier wrote: »back to subject line. I know a lot of us have weathered thru the vaccines but sometimes I still feel like damocletes (sp) sword is hanging over all of us. I don't know whether it's the news media or what's going on in India. I know the US rates are holding steady or dwindling down for now but in my own state it seems like we are holding steading to new cases at the same rate as last summer. So are these all unvaccinated people ?? I do know quite a few who have decided (for their own reasons) not to get vaccinated, and I worry about them and the "opening" up of the nation.
Not sure where you live, but I think you have to look at it in context. I'm in NM and our current average of new cases are around 130 per day which is on par for where we were last summer but a far cry from where we were in November at around 3500-4000 new cases per day.
There is a huge difference though between last summer and right now for us...that being, we were basically completely shut down last year at this time. We had some of the stiffest closure and restriction orders in the country and pretty much literally all you could do was go grocery shopping. Fast forward a year, and yes...our new case numbers are on par with where they were last year around this time...but NM is pretty much open...if we had been this open last summer, our numbers would have been through the roof. Some things like large entertainment venues and clubs/bars have cap restrictions, but most places of business now have either no restrictions or cap restrictions around 75-80%. We still have mask mandates for enclosed or otherwise indoor places, but that's about it. I'm feeling almost normal...we have tickets to a NM United soccer game coming up as well as the local baseball team...eating out, kids are back in school full time, kids are having soccer practice and games, we are cleared for interstate travel without quarantine, WFH people are starting to make their way back into offices, etc.
So that means it's working...we have roughly the same number of new cases as last year at this time, but like I said...we were all but completely locked down, and this year we are pretty much open...or I'd say about 90-95% open. We have roughly 60% of the NM population fully vaccinated...so I'd say yeah, the new cases are among the roughly 40% who have decided not to get the vaccine.
We are opening up a lot too, although not yet to where you are. The Symphony is having some concerts (with limited numbers) later in May and June, restaurants and health clubs are at 50%, farmers markets at 25% (which seems too low to me, but I like to go super early to avoid the crowd/line anyway), small venues (for things like movie theaters, concerts, sports) at 50% and large ones at 25%. Most other things at 50% (except places of worship over 200 is at 25%). I'm ready to finally eat indoors, go to a movie, get symphony tickets (I've been going to stores already, and have been to church/helped enforce the rules at church).
We are having many of our usual summer festivals in some form, and my neighborhood is doing a traditional neighborhood yard sale in June, and we are thinking about a block party -- of course these are outside.5 -
Ontario is stopping the Astra Zeneca vaccine altogether as a first dose. Apparently the blood clot cases were about 1 in 60,000 here and since we have loads of other vaccine options they decided to stop that one. If they continue on with it in Canada they expect there would be 20-25 more vaccine related deaths. Not sure what they are going to do with the thousands of people who already got it (They say the second dose risk is much, much lower - like one in a million. But then again they said that about the first dose too at the beginning). We have so much Pfizer vaccine coming in I am guessing they will give that as the second dose once they determine it is effective.
Daughter got her first dose today, and my sons are booked for Saturday, and next Tuesday. Finally going to have the whole family vaxx'd (first dose anyway).
Yes I saw that yesterday https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/very-little-excuse-to-continue-to-use-astrazeneca-in-canada-infectious-diseases-specialist Alberta may have pulled the plug by now too.
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@Gisel2015 if you get this in time, can you please untag the members in your last post? The posts were removed because they were against the terms of service, and there's no need to call that poster back here.
Good morning @kimny72 and sorry for being late. How do you "untag" members in a post? I never did that before, but I don't want to remove snowflake since she is a good contributor to the thread. Besides it seems that she is baaaaack!
I was just hoping you could remove the other poster's linked name from your post while it was still editable so he wouldn't get a notification and come back to post something else. No worries.4 -
SummerSkier wrote: »back to subject line. I know a lot of us have weathered thru the vaccines but sometimes I still feel like damocletes (sp) sword is hanging over all of us. I don't know whether it's the news media or what's going on in India. I know the US rates are holding steady or dwindling down for now but in my own state it seems like we are holding steading to new cases at the same rate as last summer. So are these all unvaccinated people ?? I do know quite a few who have decided (for their own reasons) not to get vaccinated, and I worry about them and the "opening" up of the nation.
There are quite a few states where the vaccinated rate is well below 50%, and if they are reducing restrictions at the same time, it could explain not seeing the cases drop.5 -
Ontario is stopping the Astra Zeneca vaccine altogether as a first dose. Apparently the blood clot cases were about 1 in 60,000 here and since we have loads of other vaccine options they decided to stop that one. If they continue on with it in Canada they expect there would be 20-25 more vaccine related deaths. Not sure what they are going to do with the thousands of people who already got it (They say the second dose risk is much, much lower - like one in a million. But then again they said that about the first dose too at the beginning). We have so much Pfizer vaccine coming in I am guessing they will give that as the second dose once they determine it is effective.
Daughter got her first dose today, and my sons are booked for Saturday, and next Tuesday. Finally going to have the whole family vaxx'd (first dose anyway).
Yes I saw that yesterday https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/very-little-excuse-to-continue-to-use-astrazeneca-in-canada-infectious-diseases-specialist Alberta may have pulled the plug by now too.
Did you get yours by now? You waited for Pfizer right? Almost everyone I know got the AstraZeneca first shot, I am 56 so my "circle" is right in that cohort that qualified for it early.
My kids are all booked for Pfizer (or Moderna I guess not really sure) because we live in hot spots, except one son who is now deemed "essential" priority 2 (can't work from home). Not sure what the roll out it like in other areas of the province - a bit slower I think - but apparently we have loads of vaccine now so everyone should be done by June I think.5 -
Well with a lot of getting on and off the fence about the AZ shot I'm booked into the waiting list and so is husband. Glad I don't need to think about it anymore really. Oz is now finally getting Moderna at the end of the year and some the following year but I think best not to wait to see how it goes with the roll out of it.
Covid can hit fast with just one person coming to town from interstate that doesn't know they have it. We had a guy from a foreign livestock ship flee docked at our port recently and ran around town for 24 hrs before giving himself up to police. What if he had the virus?! He didn't luckily.7 -
I'll give a report on Italy. We're moving along with vaccinations. Doing 65+ now and I'm in that group, so last day of May is my appointment for 1st dose--Pfizer. Husband lucked out and is all done (slipped into a cancellation slot).
Our problem is: vaccines ordered are not arriving as promised. AZ is especially the culprit, and the UE is cancelling future contracts with them. Pfizer arrivals are slow too and it was announced that instead of receiving the 2nd dose 2 weeks after it will be extended to 40 days. Sigh, that'll effect me. Better half than nothing.
COVID is slowing here. As the days get longer there are fewer infections and rules are being loosened. For now bars and restaurants have to have tables outside and everything must close at 9:30pm and everyone must go home. Soon this will be moved to 11:00pm, and people will be seated inside again. Masks and distancing are still required. Schools are open, as are museums. Soon theaters, cinemas, gyms, and pools etc. will open with caution. We now have a 3.5% transmission rate. Deaths are way down. So, things are looking up.
I've kept up with my exercising since October--stretching and yoga at home, and powerwalking, running for 45 min every morning around the park. I think we've missed 5 days, for rain, in 7 and a half months. However, I miss the pool. I can't wait until it opens, and I can get back in the gym for some strength training.
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Finland reporting in:
As with @snowflake954 and Italy, there have been severe delivery issues with vaccines, but lately the shipments have been more reliable. My city is currently vaccinating the 45-49 age group, with estimates of opening next 5-year age groups every 1 to 3 weeks. At least nearby cities are in about the same schedule, give or take a week or two. The current estimate is that high schoolers (16+ years old), who are the last group, would start getting vaccines mid-to-late July. Pfizer is available to all age groups, AZ to 65+ only.
We're still on pretty strong lockdown, and gatherings of more than 6 people are banned. Restaurants must stop alcohol sales at 5PM, seated food sales at 6PM and close seating at 7PM. Kitchens can stay open for delivery and take-away according to individual opening hours. I think the restaurant rules are loosening by 1 hour this weekend, though. We were hit with a sudden wave of summer weather this week and today is a public holiday, so crowds have been gathering outdoors. Even when individual groups have only been 6 people or less, various groups have packed so closely together in parks that last night the police has had to exercise crowd control and empty several parks.
Public swimming pools are opening next week, but only to older age groups and those with a disability. It's annoyingly discriminatory, but I get the point: it's the only possible form of exercise for many elderly people, and they can swim safer when those who can exercise in other ways stay out of there. I don't even bother following gym restrictions anymore, but I'm under the impression they're opening everything except indoor group fitness classes.
Current stats: 43,4% of adults (16+) have received at least 1 vaccination dose. 2865 new infections within last 14 days, previous 14 days the number was 3441 so it's going down.8 -
Ontario is stopping the Astra Zeneca vaccine altogether as a first dose. Apparently the blood clot cases were about 1 in 60,000 here and since we have loads of other vaccine options they decided to stop that one. If they continue on with it in Canada they expect there would be 20-25 more vaccine related deaths. Not sure what they are going to do with the thousands of people who already got it (They say the second dose risk is much, much lower - like one in a million. But then again they said that about the first dose too at the beginning). We have so much Pfizer vaccine coming in I am guessing they will give that as the second dose once they determine it is effective.
Daughter got her first dose today, and my sons are booked for Saturday, and next Tuesday. Finally going to have the whole family vaxx'd (first dose anyway).
Yes I saw that yesterday https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/very-little-excuse-to-continue-to-use-astrazeneca-in-canada-infectious-diseases-specialist Alberta may have pulled the plug by now too.
Did you get yours by now? You waited for Pfizer right? Almost everyone I know got the AstraZeneca first shot, I am 56 so my "circle" is right in that cohort that qualified for it early.
My kids are all booked for Pfizer (or Moderna I guess not really sure) because we live in hot spots, except one son who is now deemed "essential" priority 2 (can't work from home). Not sure what the roll out it like in other areas of the province - a bit slower I think - but apparently we have loads of vaccine now so everyone should be done by June I think.
I have an appointment on Monday for mine and I'm 57. I was eligible to book as 55+ in April and that was the earliest I could get. Also phase 2 essential so it was a race to see whether my age or occupation got me in first. I'll be getting Pfizer.
We're not a hotspot so a portion of our supply got diverted for other areas and there have been several times when we've run out. I did hear that we're expecting "loads of vaccine" in upcoming weeks so appointment availability should open up again in June.5 -
Reading posts helps me grasp how the USA reality and the World reality are not one and the same. Here in the USA vaccine availability and brand choice is over the top yet it is being rejected by more than a few. Our local hospital had settled on Moderna which was my first choice by last week when I got the my first shot.
I had a very strong reaction 12 hours after that first shot but the Covid-19 symptoms were fading fast after 6-8 hours. 26 hours after the shot I was feeling better than months ago. I have had on going serious blood clots since the second week of January first in my left leg and now my right leg but just assumed the pain was muscle spasms like I have had for years but never had blood clots before.
After spending Easter weekend in ICU due to blockages that had moved to both lungs I was starting to wonder if my bad sinus infection the first week of January had not masked Covid-19. After the shot last week I realized what I had in January was more than a sinus. My long hauler like symptoms have resolved since the first shot of vaccine12
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